Why Did Fawkes’s Feather Choose Voldemort? | Harry Potter Theory 

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What if the second wand didn't chose Harry.... what if it chose the parasitic part of Voldemort inside Harry... the same person the first wand chose?

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My theory: Fawkes’ feathers picked the two wizards who would become known for essentially raising themselves from the dead…for rising from the ashes

My question with wands and them choosing their owner. "What happens if a wand chooses someone who can't afford the price tag or do wands all have a base price?"

Please, J, call him Mr Bob. It’s his only wish in life and I think it’s fair that he gets what he wants

I thought the whole point was that Tom Riddle and Harry were very similar, but it was the choices they made that made them different (both abused as children, could be in Slytherin, have great potential for either good or evil). So the feather is just another bond between them, and a way to show that Voldemort is Harry's literary shadow.

Both Harry and Tom represent death and rebirth, Voldemort reviving in book 4, and Potter at the end of book 7. It isn't about the alignment of good or bad, but how they were similar to a phoenix.

I honestly think that Creedence is the embodiment not of Dumbledore’s Obscurus but of his deceased sister’s surviving Obscurus. That would make sense how he’s a Dumbledore.

Best Theory: Fawkes chose people who died and reborn. Voldemort, Harry, and Creedence all died and were reborn. Phoenixes are rebirthed also

I actually had a thought about this recently. Fawkes and phoenixes, in general, are meant to be symbols of healing and rebirth, not necessarily the concept of 'good', and when you think of the fact that the wand chooses the wizard, you can see why two wands with phoenix core would choose two abused little boys. Both abused, both raised in the muggle world, and both given the chance to be reborn into the wizarding one. More often than not, we hear of wands who are exactly like their owners, but there are also references to wands that choose someone with complementary characteristics instead of matching ones. A child who needs to find peace and healing finding a wand of that nature does not necessarily have that characteristic to begin with, only the knowledge that its something they need. It's probably JKs way of making the boy's even in opportunity (even though I strongly disagree that their situations were equitable), but my argument stands. Children are innocent, and when one is in need of healing a phoenix will not discriminate.

"I remember every wand I've ever sold, Mr. Potter. Every single wand. It so happens that the phoenix whose tail feather is in your wand, gave another feather -- just one other. It is very curious indeed that you should be destined for this wand when its brother why, its brother gave you that scar." Well, Olivander calls the wands "brothers", so...

Can we just talk about how Harry's wand was made at the same time as Tom Riddles and wasnt purchased for 50 years.

So I always assumed Tom wasn’t destined to be evil. As he had the potential for great evil, so did he have the potential for great good. We see this with Harry. That’s why the cores chose them. Tom could have been good. Instead, he chose evil. Also, J, be nice to Mr. Bob.

I always thought the dual wand cores was the wand wasn't actually choosing harry but recognizing Voldemort's Horcrux within harry.

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Can we just appreciate that the 2 most powerful dark wizards (Grindelwald and Voldemort) were both afraid of Albus Dumbledore and saw him as a threat?!?!

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The real question is: "What does the Fawkes say?"

I have another theory: So J said that the phoenix represents rebirth. And Ollivander said that Voldemort did great things (terrible, yes, but great) and implies that Harry will do great things. Harry and Voldemort are very special: Harry survives the Killing Curse twice (first time he was saved by love and second he sacrificed himself out of love) and Voldemort is the first wizard to create more than 1 Horcrux. Voldemort has been "rebirthed" because he underwent such a great transformation. Harry is "rebirthed" because he, well, didn't die when he was killed two times in his life. Also, Voldemort HAS done great things: he pushed the boundaries of magic further than anyone else had ever attempted. Obviously, Harry has also done lots of great things. Maybe Harry and Voldemort both perfectly represented the Phoenix and were an equal match for each other (like the prophecy said, Voldemort created his enemy). And why Fawkes? Clearly Dumbledore is strongly connected to both characters. He was the one to bring Tom Riddle into the Wizarding World. Dumbledore was the one who gave Harry his quest. And Fawkes is loyal to Dumbledore. Fawkes was so close to him that the feathers Fawkes gave were ~infused~ with Dumbledore-ness... Just another possible theory????

you forgot the symbolism of the wand wood in the two Tom's being a Yew wand "Death" while Harry's is Holly "life"

"Is Fawkes the same Fawkes he was after regenerating" My first thought "I am Groot"

Can we keep in mind that Dumbledore himself wasn't always necessarily aligned with good? After all, he and Grindlewald (Grinedelwald?) once worked toward the same goals then parted ways.

Dumbledore’s patronus is a Phoenix. He taught both of them, he played a part in the raising of both of them - a sort’ve parent to two orphans - it makes perfect sense they both have Phoenix feathers in their wands.

A more direct explanation might be that Dumbledore and Voldemort (and Harry) could all be related through the Peverell family. We know for certain that Harry is related to the brother who had the cloak (hence, why his family has it) and we know for certain that Voldemort is related to the brother who had the stone (Marvolo says so when he's waving the ring in the ministry wizard's face). Wouldn't it make sense that Dumbledore is also related to a Peverell brother - which is why he was able to defeat Grindelwald when it was Grindelwald who had the Elder Wand? I think that's why their three lives are so intertwined - because they're all the current descendants of the three Peverell brothers. When Dumbledore's family tries to escape their scandal, they move to Godric's Hollow. Wouldn't it make sense that they chose that particular place because that's where a part of their family comes from? I think the Deathly Hallows ended up with who they ended up with because of that familial tie.

What if the reason Fawkes’ feather chose Voldemort was so that it could protect Harry later on?

A Phoenix giving two feathers might symbolise it’s comtribution to a great balance between the power of opposites . The Phoenix represents both opposites creation and destruction. Two feathers symbolise that the nature of the Phoenix is tied to the ultimate fate of balance between good and evil . Harry and voldy getting their respective wands was appropriate . The pheonix wand given to voldy was appropriate as he truly could perform a large range of magic , the wand found an appropriate master . Harry was meant to have the other wand as he was meant to destroy Voldemort and Priori incantatum would be part of the destiny of chosen one ,or else harry would be dead and goblet of fire would be the last movie . Both the twin Wands were loyal to voldy and harry but their true loyalty was to balance between opposites the legacy of the Phoenix . The twin Wands worked together to prevent Voldemort from destroying his horcrux harry and they both worked to help Harry survive Voldemort . Harry’s wand was loyal to him and voldy wand was loyal to him , but above this they were loyal to balance between good and evil . One of the feathers contributed to Voldemort’s power , Voldemort’s creation but also to the creation of his horcrux harry . The other wand also contributed to the creation of harry in the context it brought up the boy who lived and played a crucial role in his life which was essential to destroy Voldemort . Conclusion of the effect of the twin Wands 1) creating Voldemort 2)creating horcrux harry 3) protecting Voldemort from destroying his own horcrux 4) creating the chosen one 5) protecting the chosen one 6) destroying Voldemort It appears each of their wand was loyal to them but by doing so loyal to their true and higher cause : the legacy of balance of opposites , the legacy of the pheonix

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Theory: Fawkes' feather DIDN'T choose Harry, but the part of Tom that was trapped in him.

I think the explanation is simple. We know that Dumbledore went around tracing Voldemort's past. Since Olivander remembers every wand he ever sold, he should have revealed that the wand core was a phoenix feather. Dumbledore should have acquired the bird to work out a way to neutralize Voldemort's wand. As phoenix always helps a Dumbledore in need, it should have willingly given a second feather. The wand eventually chose Voldemort again. But only this time it was the Voldemort that was within Harry.

Theres a difference between replacing parts of an axe and a Phoenix being reborn, because with a phoenix it's being remade from its own ashes, and with the axe, your replacing all the parts with pieces that werent originally a part of it.

I think JK Rowling recognized that it would be ridiculous for Harry to win multiple duels against the 2nd greatest wizard ever so she threw this in to make him seem lucky and keep his self confidence low until he learned more about truly finishing Voldemort

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There's more to a wand's "choosing" then the core the wood also plays a part what's more keep in mind that wands tend to figuratively grow along with the witch or wizard they chose.

It's especially important when you keep in mind that Dumbledore basically raised both Harry and Voldemort like a foster parent.

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I will quote Luna from book seven for this the question was which which came first the Phoenix or the flame and lunas answer a circle has no beginning

1:50 The Fear of the Twin Cores and How to Overcome Them, movie coming 2029

"Same bird... different companions, and values..." Sounds more like a Phoenix rebirth is like a Gallifreyan Time Lord regeneration...

I think it just shows that Voldemort also had the potential to become a good wizard. The books are very much about the choices we make to become who we are, instead of people being inherently evil.

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How did olivander know which wand voldemort has? If he remembers every wand he ever sold does that mean olivander knew voldemort was tom riddle?

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Random question, did the Weasley twins have twin cores? If so what kind of core and wood do you think they'd have.

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Could you guys do a video explaining the importance of wands in characters like their woods, cores, etc? Great video!

One thing that has me asking a lot more questions is "how did Voldemort get his old wand back?" He clearly states to his death eaters "I was less than a spirit" and we know that he was unable to actually hold a wand without his body, he also states this. We know that he went to the Potter's household alone that night, because if he had been with some death eaters, they would have been able to perform the spell needed to restore him, and wouldn't have needed to "seek him out" as he states in the graveyard. We also know that the order of the phoenix gets to the potter household relatively fast afterwards, as Hagrid states he pulled Harry from the rubble himself. That means that Voldemort's wand must have been in the rubble at the time the order of the phoenix came to inspect, and assuming the killing curse didn't obliterate Voldemort's body (which would either have destroyed the items he was wearing/carrying, or left them all in the rubble still), the wand should be there, and I'm sure the Auroras and/or the order of the phoenix would have searched the place pretty thoroughly, not least to extract the bodies of the potters, they should have found it. Considering they didn't find the wand, and it would be a death eater who went and searched later, that would mean it had to be Peter who went and searched, and found the wand, then holding on to the wand of his Master without using it, and without expecting Voldemort to be alive. So how does Voldemort get his own wand back?

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I always just imagined Fawkes laying two feathers in front of Dumbledore and Olivander. As the Phoenix magestically takes flight, bird poop falls directly onto one feather. "I guess that one is going to the dark Lord"

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Why would dumbledore have ever given Olivander two feathers for wands in the first place?

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My personal feeling is that Fawkes had a premonition of the future and gave the feather/wand to Voldy knowing someday his equal would be born for the wand to be given to. Fawkes definitely has some abilities like that, because he was able to find harry in the chamber of secrets

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I have a question. How did Lucious get away with attempting the killing curse, on a student, in the middle of hogwarts, right outside Dumbledore's office

I have a different theory: According to Herodotus, the Egyptians (or more accurately the inhabitants of Heliopolis) believed that the phoenix came to a temple every 500 years, where it died and rose from the ashes. To me this implies one of two things: 1 A phoenix can only die once every 500 years to be reborn 2 A phoenix has precognition about its death We see Fawkes die twice in the span of three to four years, so I am going with number two. It may be the case, that a phoenix doesn't only have precognition about his next death, but about all his deaths in the future, which would include precognition about being killed by Voldemort, which would mean he had at least a little precognition about the most powerful dark wizard of all time as well. So Fawkes being aware of the threat gave two feathers: One goes to Voldemort (which means Fawkes ironically created the weapon that kills him) while the other waits in Ollivander's shop until a boy enters, who is destined to defeat the dark lord. Fawkes wasn't "edgy" or a "dark phoenix". He cleverly laid out a death trap to a wizard who never expected that beings he considered "lesser creatures" were able to harm him.

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I read the title as "Why did Fawkes's Father Choose Voldemort" and I was genuinely confused

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Theory: Within Dumbledore there is a great power to do good and evil. His Phoenix expresses that.

I feel like from their perspective they just chose Voldemort twice.

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Once donated would either feather or any other core for that matter retain any semblance of the donating creature’s personality. We’ve heard that the elder wand, of elder wood with a core of the thestral hair always seeks out the stronger wizard. We’ve also learned that of the three primary core types (unicorn hair, Phoenix feather & dragon heartstring) are of differing strengths. Perhaps such wands seek partners/wizards whose gifts and/or attitudes best suit them.

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If Dumbledore had Fawkes in "Crimes of Grindelwald" I'm fairly certain he wouldn't keep him in the classroom, in view of just anyone.

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I think it is interesting that both people the Phoenix feathers cores both chose people who came back from the dead. Voldemort through his horcruxes and Harry through the Deathly Hallows.

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As a good friend of Mr. Bob he has confided in me. Based on what he has told me about J I would like to propose we change the SCB acronym to mean Super Carlin, Ben

The funny thing is that I also have a phoenix plushie named Bob.

I find it awesome that you pretty much called the 3rd fantastic beasts movie in the middle part of this video.

Credence's obscuros gets subdued by dumbledore which makes him a squib again. Leading him to live like a Muggle and change his name to Tom Riddle - who also has Nagini as a companion who eventually keeps that loyalty to credence's son after his death. Voldemort is dumbledores nephew, hence why the phoenix interacts with him and why he is so powerful. He has the blood line of two very powerful lines, Slytherin and Griffindore.

What if Fawkes belonged to Arianna, after she died it fled and later came back to be reunited with her obscurus (Credence)

Will we see the Ice bird in the 3rd Fantastic Beasts movie/book? I mean, we saw his brethren(the Thunder bird and the Phoenix) in the 1st 2.

The 3rd times a charm joke in reference to Dark Phoenix got me. Made me laugh, then made me sad because I just want a good X-Men movie

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Mind-blowingly excellent theory, but I feel sorry for Mr. Bob.

Perhaps the wands of a Phoenix core chooses wizards who have "defeated death" or are destined to do so in some form.

I always thought it was more of a fun fact that anything super important. Takking about the featers being from Fawkes

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Maybe it’s because Harry and Voldemort both can back from the dead like a phoenix

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