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Why did Guardian fire cartoonist? Tracking anti-semitism, via Shakespeare, Karl Marx, Krishna Menon 

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The British daily Guardian has sacked veteran cartoonist Steve Bell over a caricature of Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu deemed ‘anti-semitic’. In Ep 1334 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta delves into the long and mind-boggling history of anti-semitism and some surprising proponents of this racist ideology.
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@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia 11 месяцев назад
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@TheSayKular
@TheSayKular 11 месяцев назад
Shekhar sir, @ 16:08 It is myth that Muslim-Jewish conflict is lesser than Christian-Jewish conflict . 🛑 A myth propagated by intellectuals. 🛑 To explain the severity there is no more Jews left in the places where they were persecuted. 🛑 Medina was build by Jews, where are those Jews now? 🛑 And where are the Jews, Christians, Sabians in the Arabia? 🛑 Non-Muslims always suffered under Muslim rule thru Jaziya. 🛑 If they revolted or told their story their community will be persecuted more. 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
@TheSayKular
@TheSayKular 11 месяцев назад
Jews were also persecuted in Kerala which no on says. 🛑 King of Kozhikode(Calicut) exiled Jews at the request of Muslims. 🛑 And Jews had to take refuge in Cochin. 🛑 Jew hate started by Mohmad, and the Islamic teaching is to eliminate them before End Day. 🛑 Mohmad also told to eliminate all non-Muslims from Arabia. 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
@jaydeepgadhavi5465
@jaydeepgadhavi5465 11 месяцев назад
This othering of Jews based on their economic habits in early days also came from the fact that Judaism in Europe was the only religion which didn't prohibit interest collection unlike the Christianity & Islam
@pratyushshrivastava2647
@pratyushshrivastava2647 11 месяцев назад
Judaism was the first religion to do so, all the Abrahamic religion prohibited interest but the twist was they can't take interest from their own. Which meant Christian can't take interest from Christian, M from M, Jew from Jew. Jews always were a minority in both Muslim and Christian world so they lent money to Christian and muslims but never to their own.
@IndianArma
@IndianArma 11 месяцев назад
It was not their economic habits. It was because the Christians believed they killed christ and also that they rejected him as a messiah. They still reject christ. That's why they were persecuted in Europe. Interestingly when the first crusade was sanctioned against the seljuk turks to take back Jerusalem, the peoples crusade, led by Peter the hermit, who responded to the popes call of arms, left from France and commited pogroms and burnt Jewish villages on their way to the middle east in what was then Rhineland, now called Germany. So this is a far more nuanced situation. I would refer you to the late Christopher Hitchens on the matter.
@conflictvideo3014
@conflictvideo3014 11 месяцев назад
You learn something new everyday.
@rdkamath
@rdkamath 11 месяцев назад
Did Christianity also prohibit interest collection?
@rdkamath
@rdkamath 11 месяцев назад
Guardian is anti India..... I will never contribute funds to them.
@sureshsubrahmanyam8273
@sureshsubrahmanyam8273 11 месяцев назад
I would say this is one of the best cut the clutter by Shekar Gupta. Good analysis going back to Karl Mark’s roots and describing leftist Dilemma😀
@sivasakthisaravanan4850
@sivasakthisaravanan4850 11 месяцев назад
Too long video. Couldn't finish.
@ChessPlayer78
@ChessPlayer78 11 месяцев назад
ts high time to tell the world the secret that , American civil war has played, playing and will continue to play on this world stage, either you are with the Republicans or Democrats....choose wisely
@krishanukrori2452
@krishanukrori2452 11 месяцев назад
Guardian does "top class journalism" esp of it does hinduphobia.. isnt it???
@mahendrakumarsai1178
@mahendrakumarsai1178 11 месяцев назад
Bhai yaar, ek genuine advice, accept the fact that people believe in different things and take different positions on different issues, wo apne angle se sahi he kr rhe hote h, facts jameen pr bikhre huve h, saare log kuch na kuch uthaate h, kisi ko koyi sa fact acha lagta h kisiko koisa, jab tak wo fact laa rhe h table pr, wo acha journalism h, un facts se agar koyi aisi story bahar aati h jo hme pasand nahi h, to hame bhi thoda humble ho k he criticism krna chahiye, unke kaam ko poori tarah se nakaar dena to sach se moonh mod lene jaisa h. Bura lga to sorry, agar kaam aaye ye advice to mujhe khusi hogi. Aisa kuch nahi h ki m tumko mere se Kam samajh rha hu, m to bas Har baar aise comments dekhta hu to lagta h ki kisi bhai ko jo mujhe sahi rasta lagta h us pr lana jimmedari h meri
@ytskt
@ytskt 11 месяцев назад
Few days back it was Al-Jazeera that did fine journalism for SG...
@adi45713
@adi45713 11 месяцев назад
@@mahendrakumarsai1178itna bada gyan likha hai jisme ek boht badi sacchayi hai “accept different people have different opinions” Yahi chiz ek bar Guardian ya kisi aur news walo ko bhi sunao.. Ye to random commentator hai, isne jo dekha wo bola. Isme itna ahat hone wali kya bat hai? As if whitoids don’t deliberately downplay Hindu persecution at every step of their existence while prodding up even a little bit of discomfort to other non-Dharmik communities in India as if there’s is the “only true religion & has the right to rule this land with impunity”. Bura lage to sorry but thoda self respect Lao, aise to Na hi Guardian not BBC nor koi dusra channel tumhare (humare) existence ki respect karta hai
@tigerking2742
@tigerking2742 11 месяцев назад
​@@mahendrakumarsai1178tum jo lamba chauda lecture diya yeh knowlegde sabko pahle se malum hai 👍 usne sawaal pucha what about Hindu phobia??? Is topics par SG kabhi program kiya???? Dekh rational thinking and hypocrisy never similar
@biorig
@biorig 11 месяцев назад
@@mahendrakumarsai1178 Can't you write everything in English? There are a lot of us who don't know Hindi. Nothing against Hindi, but we simply can't read it.
@anupamsharma1
@anupamsharma1 11 месяцев назад
Jews also produced some the best scholars who produced best critique of dumb ideas of Karl Marx's theories e.g Milton Friedman, Simon Hayek etc.
@user-gf5dr5nq6l
@user-gf5dr5nq6l 11 месяцев назад
haha, btw Marx was Jewish and yes there’s a difference between Jew and Jewish, even though his family converted into Christianity
@Anurag-xe2jp
@Anurag-xe2jp 11 месяцев назад
​@@user-gf5dr5nq6lHe wasn't. His family converted to Christianity before his birth.
@rajx7120
@rajx7120 11 месяцев назад
*Friederich von Hayek
@manjulashanmugasundaram706
@manjulashanmugasundaram706 11 месяцев назад
.....George Soros, Nathan Anderson? (meant as a joke)
@pranjalmishra4867
@pranjalmishra4867 11 месяцев назад
Just read more if you think Marx was dumb and Friedman, Hayek etc were great 'scholars'. Context is what you are missing in the texts.
@SJ00889
@SJ00889 11 месяцев назад
Although India has never an instance of anti-semitism but Gandhi was an anti-Semite he opposed the creation of Israel.
@vivek1raja
@vivek1raja 11 месяцев назад
What a nitwit! So criticizing Israel is anti-semitic?
@VishalKhopkar1296
@VishalKhopkar1296 11 месяцев назад
Krishna Menon's stmt as a diplomat was deeply offensive. We wouldn't even use such a stmt for Pakistan or China, let alone Israel. Although we didn't have diplomatic relations with Israel back then, Nehru should've fired this guy immediately for such hate speech
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
Nehru supported those ideas himself in the name of the Muslim vote bank.
@amodpataskar5673
@amodpataskar5673 11 месяцев назад
Pandit ji was not alive when this happened our PM PM was smt Indira Gandhi
@nishantshrivastava9674
@nishantshrivastava9674 11 месяцев назад
Menon was a left bigot was proving his loyalty to radical Izlami$ts and their unholy alliance. No wonder used to be so pathetic during khangress era. If menon would have alive today.. He would have been licking Al bagdadi a$$
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 11 месяцев назад
“You don’t need religion to have morals. If you can’t determine right from wrong then you lack empathy, not religion.” - Anonymous
@SamvadSoul
@SamvadSoul 11 месяцев назад
Religion give a strong sense of right & wrong, depending on its belief systems. Need not say more its consequences as we see all over, it overtakes everything
@rajx7120
@rajx7120 11 месяцев назад
And how do you define morals? Morality is a human construct. Humans were never one people. Different civilizations created different ideas of morality, and called it religion. All the morality we have today, is collected from various religions, and we narrowed down upon a common set.
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 11 месяцев назад
@@rajx7120 Do not do to others what you do not want others to do to you….. is a good place to start from, as is based on common sense.
@elementm5428
@elementm5428 11 месяцев назад
No such thing as right or wrong without religion.
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 11 месяцев назад
@@elementm5428 Yea, so self declared religious authorities then interpret religion to make wrong things right for their personal interest and agenda...
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 11 месяцев назад
Krishna menon one of coward defence minister of india becoz of Him we Lost indo- china 1962 war He started politicising Indian Army Generals But anyways thnxx to next defence minister Y.B chavan who started indian Army modernization & increased its troops & later on India never lost a Single War ......
@pravinmeher2036
@pravinmeher2036 11 месяцев назад
yes menon was motivated evil guy.. and SG brings up his statement as if he and Karl Marx are if same league.
@msdadsfsx
@msdadsfsx 11 месяцев назад
Most of our defence minister were Pakistan spy
@4th_Disciple
@4th_Disciple 11 месяцев назад
I wish there is more Indo-Pak unity in the face of Chinese colonialism.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 11 месяцев назад
@@4th_Disciple Yeah may be true Some Pakistanis are very Good people... !! But Pakistan is similar to China ..... Dictator & Autocratic..... There is No democracy in Pakistan... Pakistan Army & ISI rules the Country...... Pakistan Politicians has no role In Pakistan decision making..... Every Pakistan prime minister either gets Exiled,Jailed or Executed Like Bhutto, imran Khan & nawaz shariff....
@pravinmeher2036
@pravinmeher2036 11 месяцев назад
@@4th_Disciple Pak is selling their nation to china in quest of gazawa e hind. This type of hatred is not good. If there was no conflict between India pak, India pak combined would have been the second largest economy. India, pak Afghanistan, banglades would have been rich like some of the European countries. But I don't know why pak is hell bent on bringing India down.
@craumm
@craumm 11 месяцев назад
I like you don’t miss on taking shots at Qatar😂 Really well researched episode.
@meawwow
@meawwow 11 месяцев назад
Like denazification, we need de-Marxification and de-"decommunization" for Marxists and Communists. Those ideologies are a bane to this world.
@chandrashekhartiwari1761
@chandrashekhartiwari1761 11 месяцев назад
Sri Shekhar Gupta always supplies right critical inputs for arriving at any conclusion for his Viewers. I recollect a parallel, from my memory, to Sri Bhabani Senguptaji, Columnist of India Today era of the 80's was such forthright Journalist of India. Kudos.
@alokgupta4200
@alokgupta4200 11 месяцев назад
If Jews could emigrate to Jerusalem despite resistance from Arabs, then why could Christians not emigrate to Jerusalem, if it is so important to Christians?
@samin096
@samin096 11 месяцев назад
Jerusalem always had predominant jewish populations
@hdt8112
@hdt8112 11 месяцев назад
Please elaborate with exact figures and dates.
@rajx7120
@rajx7120 11 месяцев назад
Christians hold Vatican more important than Jerusalem.
@sundershetty2759
@sundershetty2759 11 месяцев назад
Gurdian and British labour party as many media and political parties need the money of wealthy individuals. Jews are wealthiest people in the world. No reason required why gurdian or labour party changed their view. Dal roti ka sawal hai
@kallachi729
@kallachi729 11 месяцев назад
Shekhar “Tussi great Ho”! With hatke peshkash! Way to go! Creative journalism.
@craumm
@craumm 11 месяцев назад
Well Guardian has been Hinduphobic too. Hopefully those should be actionable items too.
@moderndilemmas_
@moderndilemmas_ 11 месяцев назад
Did get one thing wrong: Jews have been persecuted pretty much throughout entire Middle East. Yea the term anti-semitism originated in Europe and have documented incidents there. However there has been consistent persecution across Syria, Yemen, Baghdad etc.
@pravinmeher2036
@pravinmeher2036 11 месяцев назад
Even Mohmd persecuted Jews because they refused to convert as last prophet asked. If they were safe under muslim rules and persecuted in Europe they why they did not return to Israel or middle east? Actually Jews were rich and hence hated not persecuted in Europe. Just like rich baniyas, marwari' seths are hated in India.
@sottovoce4626
@sottovoce4626 11 месяцев назад
Always the victims...
@shenoyenterprises
@shenoyenterprises 11 месяцев назад
Karl Marx's family was originally non-religious Jewish, but had converted formally to Christianity before his birth, which you missed mentioning.
@cyrneco
@cyrneco 11 месяцев назад
When it comes to Israel (or china) the guardian is always out of order and goes full fanatic. I gave up reading it because of that .
@ytskt
@ytskt 11 месяцев назад
You forgot India
@cyrneco
@cyrneco 11 месяцев назад
@@ytskt no the guardian is not that bad with India. They positively lose their mind about china and Israel. With India is just the usual orientalist crap.
@ishanbaruah3249
@ishanbaruah3249 11 месяцев назад
A very intriguing and interesting episode, please keep more such episodes coming.
@narasimhankhadri
@narasimhankhadri 11 месяцев назад
Had always wondered what is anti-semitism. Thanks SG sir
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching, my friend. I'm glad you liked this episode...best wishes, Shekhar
@Mjjjyyy
@Mjjjyyy 11 месяцев назад
You are wonderful Guptaji. 26 august nahi hai aaj, ferr bhi meri taraf sai khud ko ek kanghi khreed k gift kr do.❤
@akalpitaify
@akalpitaify 11 месяцев назад
Wow ...still no video on Mahua Moitra case on The Print...self censoring much!!?? 😂
@mohammedkoduvamparambath4271
@mohammedkoduvamparambath4271 11 месяцев назад
Thank God we had Mahatma Gandhi to protect us from slipping into religious intolerance and keep the secular faith.Religious intolerance and mammon worship is the root cause of anti-Semitism and the world desparately needs a Gandhi now to bring the increasingly polarised world into the right track. Let's hope for that.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely sir
@sameepvaidya9395
@sameepvaidya9395 11 месяцев назад
Islamic republic of Pakistan was still created so Gandhi failed at what you are claiming.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
98.5% of Indian Muslims opposed Gandhi and voted for Pakistan. So Gandhi's intolerance was only limited to Kafirs. Gandhi was not seen as a leader for Muslims. Religious intolerance is from Muslims and is still there.
@kaulkaul8898
@kaulkaul8898 11 месяцев назад
but i bet you nothing will happen to the freedom of press rankings for all these countries: france, uk, usa and no one is bothered about the democracy etc. etc.
@North_Lights
@North_Lights 11 месяцев назад
In case if you don’t know the history and Shekar giving you context less lesson about Karl Marx anti semitism, here is the truth, Marx is both anti religious and anti capitalism. In both Christianity and Islam, banking, especially interest based banking and money handling is prohibited. So in Europe mostly Jewish people practiced that profession, in by 19th century they were the major capitalist. This was the context behind Karl Marx, so as always Gupta will give only partial account anything.
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 11 месяцев назад
That's the same trope that you swine leftists use against Hindus, Baniyas specially.
@s.chaubey8098
@s.chaubey8098 11 месяцев назад
Ya mean Shekhar uncle provides half-baked analyses?
@MrAmit0123
@MrAmit0123 11 месяцев назад
One important German figure left out - Martin Luther.
@DeccanPS
@DeccanPS 11 месяцев назад
Exactly, it would throw out the perception of Protestants being some kind of progressives. Indian left is the most stupidest being.
@jonathaneffemey944
@jonathaneffemey944 9 месяцев назад
Steve Bell is a renowned cartoonist. To reject the cartoon maybe but to sack Steve Bell, no. Steve Bell is part of the same tradition as Thomas Rowlandson. The tradition of political satire in the UK. The whole thing seems very obscure to me too. Plus I have read this whole episode has been sturred up via Twitter/X. How can they dictate now to the Guardian? Thank you for this podcast.
@painpeace3619
@painpeace3619 11 месяцев назад
Political correctness is the worst kind of psychology .
@asad203
@asad203 11 месяцев назад
Seems like a long shot comparing Steve Bell's cartoon with the Merchant of Venice
@cogito9350
@cogito9350 11 месяцев назад
Remember the nuances folks. Remember when it will be about hinduphobic, as it had been , Always remember there is a complexity in gupta ji world
@KhalidMahmood-dz9hj
@KhalidMahmood-dz9hj 11 месяцев назад
Excellent 360 degree historical analysis of Hamas-Israel fiasco.
@Saks6951
@Saks6951 11 месяцев назад
For some reason leftists and Muslims have similarities. Muslims suppress women and leftists support that. In the USA white liberal Democrat said to his srilankan girlfriend you are brown and brown people are subordinate to whites.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 11 месяцев назад
Leftists are the hypocrites born in the world....
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
It is not that simple.
@rgg1540
@rgg1540 11 месяцев назад
Interesting episode!
@SadaK-tr6dm
@SadaK-tr6dm 11 месяцев назад
Colonial British wanted to remove the Jews from the Europe in 1997, so they moved them to Palastine. Palastine people still had no problem with that. The British then created a new country fin the middle of Palastine for the people that they moved there. What you expect Palestinian people to do in this situation?
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
They created three countries. Syria and Jordan for Muslims and Israel for Jews as demanded by Muslims (not by Jews). 90% of the land and resources were given to Muslims. Read some history.
@SadaK-tr6dm
@SadaK-tr6dm 11 месяцев назад
@@vinsin328 Muslims gave the place to migrated Jews, happily. But not for creating a country there. And that new country pushed the Palestinians out from their own country and they had to live as refugees in the small packed areas like Gaza. And then the conditions of even those packed areas was degraded to such a level that they were like concentration camps. Even their diet was controlled by Israel. What are Palestinians supposed to do in that situation?
@insramnath
@insramnath 11 месяцев назад
A point to ponder about what Karl Marx wrote is, he did not talk of the theology of a Jew, but of a general bussiness character of a Jew (a profession they chose because they -smartly- took up interest collection and banking, which was kind of denied to others viz. Christians and Muslims, historically). So, what Marx said is more anti-capitalist than anti-semitist or anti-jews (who happened to prominent capitalists of that era).
@wrathofhade
@wrathofhade 10 месяцев назад
They had to take that because every other kind of livelihood was denied to them. Only smart survive, when everyother is trying to eliminate you. You don't get this smart jew stereotype from Jews who settled in India,because they don't have to become smart to survive.
@samin096
@samin096 11 месяцев назад
I really felt bad for the jews and may Allah help them and direct them in this crisis. It appears Israel can not reciprocate 1400years of treating well by muslims for even 14 years
@kumarm5961
@kumarm5961 11 месяцев назад
Sekhar Sir u opinion on mahua moitra
@arindambaisya
@arindambaisya 11 месяцев назад
Need to do similar in India for Hinduphobes.
@digitalcommunist6335
@digitalcommunist6335 11 месяцев назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Jai Hind!
@shreyafisch
@shreyafisch 11 месяцев назад
Where is freedom of speech now ? When cartoonists criticizing other ethnic groups or religions are celebrated by us, Indians, despite the fact that the cartoons hurt the sentiments of muslims or christians……….why is India not celebrating this cartoon now ? Why and when we turned so biased in our approaches and justifications
@jugchats
@jugchats 11 месяцев назад
KV Krishna memon lost us the China war... All I need to say about that...
@victor256in
@victor256in 11 месяцев назад
Shekhars Journalism bibles: BBC, Hum Sab BC, NYT, Al Jazeera, Guardian….
@blackjacka5350
@blackjacka5350 11 месяцев назад
SG ko bura laga, sab sanghi horahe hai 😂😂😂
@ravindranegi85
@ravindranegi85 11 месяцев назад
The Guardian Hindu ko gaali deta hai so it becomes top class
@dandmello5283
@dandmello5283 11 месяцев назад
Thanks a Billions to the ShekarGupta's journalism A TRESURE TROVE OF INFORMATION AND THE WISDOM SINCE 1980'S journalism... It's always great 👍 listening to your News&Views&Updates ❤❤❤
@MrInovision
@MrInovision 11 месяцев назад
Marx perpective of anti-Semitism was economic and not religious, as jews were capitalist and interest seeking community 0:33
@sameepvaidya9395
@sameepvaidya9395 11 месяцев назад
Still it doesn't justify hatered. People have right to be capitalists and seek interest.
@wonderfacts7782
@wonderfacts7782 11 месяцев назад
So well researched! Thank you.
@tony16991
@tony16991 11 месяцев назад
The left's anti-semitism is not new. Look at Marx's views on Jews. For Hindu's who thinks the left cares about them, look at Marx's justification of British rule in India. He believed Indians needs to be civilized.
@peak_911
@peak_911 11 месяцев назад
left is anti-everthing but muslim
@sottovoce4626
@sottovoce4626 11 месяцев назад
Marx was Jewish
@amodpataskar5673
@amodpataskar5673 11 месяцев назад
Trying to interpret a political cartoon as anti semitic was incorrect, Israels expansion after its formation was going to have its repercussions, the cartoonist had all the right to compare Netanyahu with American president on this grounds, neither was the cartoon a blasphemy
@drashokkumar9209
@drashokkumar9209 11 месяцев назад
Jews were good in Mathematics . While the Church hated Mathematics . As late as 13th century church people were afraid of fractions and decimals -- concepts prevalent in India 🇮🇳 even before the Church was born .
@krishnaprasadsankar2028
@krishnaprasadsankar2028 11 месяцев назад
God forbid a white Sahib news paper fire a reporter a brown sahib has to go to length to defend them in a 25 min video
@student6606
@student6606 10 месяцев назад
The reason for Labour’s position is that they are closer to the power after 14 years, so for them any anti Israel position won’t be acceptable to larger British public.
@pushpindersingh1819
@pushpindersingh1819 11 месяцев назад
Now we know why Jews were not settled in Europe, their Karam Bhoomi. European/Christians did not want them anywhere near their territories. Now its an Arab problem whereas it was a European problem to begin with.
@SadaK-tr6dm
@SadaK-tr6dm 11 месяцев назад
Jews are good, but the Zionists have got serious issues. The Colonist British wanted to remove Zionists from the Europe, so they moved them to Palestine.
@seth-e9y
@seth-e9y 11 месяцев назад
This is a wonderful essay! I learnt a lot. Thanks, Shekhar ji!
@ytskt
@ytskt 11 месяцев назад
What's wonderful about it?
@anandshd
@anandshd 11 месяцев назад
I cannot even imagine how much of hatred jewish people must have faced when prominent public figures openly gave such a hateful and hostile comments without any real consequences.
@caa_nrc
@caa_nrc 11 месяцев назад
Its funny how indian media used to swear by western newspaper and reports ,, ek dum se hi --waqt badal gya -- jazbaat badal gu __ zindgi badal gyi
@bambu3954
@bambu3954 10 месяцев назад
Guardian knows everything and they are always right...right to criticise the world based on their agenda
@Roxmueller
@Roxmueller 11 месяцев назад
Sir, You have explained this difficult topic very clearly.... I think , no one can claim of their original homeland after leaving by any reason, because original homeland has no meaning....... and if every community will seek their initial land, then there will be disaster in the world.... What is the solution?.... Come and live with permission of already settled human beings there.....if they allow, make a composite society.... not displace the already residing there by force..... Because time changes, if you are powerful now, then surely will be weaker in some day future.... Justice brings peace.
@kardilikar2271
@kardilikar2271 11 месяцев назад
“A gem cut video”.
@SkSingh-tu8un
@SkSingh-tu8un 11 месяцев назад
At a time when not only Israel but people all over the world are shocked at the cruelty of the terrorist attack by Hamas on Israel, it would be best for cartoonists to take inspiration from our very own RK Laxman who in a long and iconic career was to the best of my knowledge never involved in a controversy.
@prakhartripathi8465
@prakhartripathi8465 11 месяцев назад
My father always says "the first meaning of dharma is daya". If you don't have mercy and compassion you have no love for god, it is just expression of bigotry in name of God.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
True, but Daya for whom?
@firstsparkle5378
@firstsparkle5378 10 месяцев назад
As I have studied Abrahamic faiths, islam & anti-semitism for some time, I think it's inaccurate to conclude that Jews were less persecuted in islam dominated regions as compare to Christian dominated Europe(if we exclude Holocaust during 2nd world War as Holocaust was the result of race rather than religion). In Europe, persecution was based upon religious propaganda while in Arab, persecution was based upon clear Commandment of Allah. Massacre of jews have been common feature in Arab history as second caliph Umar vowed to expel all the jews from Arabian peninsula.
@NarendraKumar-hq5bv
@NarendraKumar-hq5bv 10 месяцев назад
Superb ShekhaeJi. Thank you. This is what I have been suggesting for almost a year, to Print. Please with full respect, analyse the ideologies, NOT only from --"They want power, they want votes" Analyse Leftist ideology.. Libertarian ideology.. Christianism. Judaism. RSS Etc.. You did too, here and there, like in Video on Indonesia. People kill or join due to ideologies also . Ideology also is mixed. Ideology is the blue print.. But it Has a CONTENT, HISTORY. From that comes INTENT.. In fact, I learnt from you only, including this one. Do more of that. Otherwise, people cannot really get. And become just ... "it is all politics" cynical. Just a suggestion from and my POV, very limited.
@garfield-pro
@garfield-pro 11 месяцев назад
The Print seems to have copied the Guardian's font.
@elpsykongroo8308
@elpsykongroo8308 11 месяцев назад
Not a historian but as far as I know the historical roots of the sociological division between the Jews and the other Abrahamic religions comes from the practices about money lending, something that was allowed in Jewish religion but was criticized by jesus. Even muslims have rules regarding banks, interests, etc. But imo whatever the reason for Jew hatred, it's almost transparent that this feud of neighbouring countries is against Jews because of anti-Semitism, because that is the only variable difference between victim of all the other conflicts in the middle East that all the islamic world never cares about and Palestinians. You could say that it's just because the opponents are non Muslim like the west (and I agree it's not exactly anti-Semitism but anti-non muslim ism) but whatever the case, the Israel-gaza conflict is so viral among Muslims is specifically because Israelis are Jews (not-muslims). They don't give shit about all the other "muslim brethren" that are living just as bad if not worse life because of other Muslims.
@nishadass6960
@nishadass6960 11 месяцев назад
There's an interesting idea from Thomas Sowell, about the cause of the unpopularity of the Jews. Just that they have always been super successful. And the Christians and Muslims can just never get over it.
@elpsykongroo8308
@elpsykongroo8308 11 месяцев назад
@@nishadass6960 Ya that's obviously true. No one can argue that. They are obviously successful, both historically and currently. And that does create a lot of Jewish conspiracies and jealousy. But, the more interesting question (at least for me) is why they have been so successful. From what I could find, there's multiple related reasons. There's the non-taboo about banking, money lending that other Abrahamic religions had, culturally a society that emphasizes on education, and modern genetics shows that they also on an average have higher IQ (which is, imo a build up of generations of higher quality of living), and also a close knit society that re-enforces their culture which happens with almost all minorities. These are the real things that I think have caused Jews to succeed so much both historically and today. Both leftist like Marxists/Communists and right wingers like the Nazis fail to understand that often it's not race or class but certain cultures and social environment that lead to certain groups to succeed more than others.
@arindamkumar7725
@arindamkumar7725 11 месяцев назад
What is wrong in money being the ultimate God? Money and Satan are not synonyms...
@peak_911
@peak_911 11 месяцев назад
And here we have cartoonist in TOI who is anti-hindu, still making shit, what happened to freedom of speech now?
@lovekanaujia345
@lovekanaujia345 11 месяцев назад
There are still many Krishna Menons around
@manmohansingh5606
@manmohansingh5606 11 месяцев назад
Very well researched
@2010anilshukla
@2010anilshukla 11 месяцев назад
Great episode clearing many complex questions 👍
@ytskt
@ytskt 11 месяцев назад
14:48 what a wonderful life living as a zimmi!!
@eespn4764
@eespn4764 11 месяцев назад
For how many years radical was working and spreading radicalism within
@kbmehta4208
@kbmehta4208 11 месяцев назад
Fascinating. On the question of ‘money being their focus, huckstering etcetera’, possibly Jews were driven to security provided by it because of their persecution over several millennia.
@nagarajanv6381
@nagarajanv6381 11 месяцев назад
A long, long time ago, I had housemates in the US, a Goan Catholic named Bernard and a Bombay Jew called Solomon. Bernard used to torment Solomon telling him that Jews would not be able to get into heaven until they accepted Jesus. So anti-semitism is not unknown in India.
@yoppindia
@yoppindia 11 месяцев назад
disagree, 99% of Indians don't know who a Jew is, so there is no question of anti Semitism.
@shivampal7775
@shivampal7775 11 месяцев назад
​​​@@yoppindiathat's another misconception my friend. 99% would be an exaggeration, I was taught about the whole thing back in school when our teacher told us about WW2 back in 2013.
@yoppindia
@yoppindia 11 месяцев назад
@@shivampal7775 there was nothing about Jews or holocaust in any of text I studied, I didn't know who a Jew is until I was more than 20 year old, so I disagree
@shivampal7775
@shivampal7775 11 месяцев назад
@@yoppindia agreed. There wasn't any in mine too, it was the courtesy of the teacher who went out of the box to teach us more. It was an ICSE board school and the teacher you'd be surprised to know was a keralite Christian.
@yoppindia
@yoppindia 11 месяцев назад
@@shivampal7775 I think it's left bias due to which such topics are not covered. Even partition of India is not covered properly, when 1 million Indians died due to British mischief.
@Ajvideo009
@Ajvideo009 10 месяцев назад
Very well researched, and balanced.
@fahadkhan-db6bh
@fahadkhan-db6bh 11 месяцев назад
Hey Tim, WRT the white birch SD, PR meter is on the back for the 9RA5, also that one is 5 days PR 🙂 also perhaps the one to go for between the 3
@reindeer8842
@reindeer8842 10 месяцев назад
Guardian most respectful 😂. This rascal is making mockery of journalism
@heeheeeeeeeee
@heeheeeeeeeee 11 месяцев назад
Average Krishna Menon moment 25:05
@Dabbangsandy
@Dabbangsandy 11 месяцев назад
Really appreciate this kind of analysis
@khanlatifahmed
@khanlatifahmed 11 месяцев назад
Good atleast you read about it from history. And enlightened the viewers. Quran is full of verses which mean that Jews did not follow the commands of their prophets. When they were told to sacrifice a cow that they were worshipping, they brought 100 excuses to not to do that. In another passage Moses orders them to enter Jerusalem, but they refused saying that they will be killed. God says that Jews are arrogant and they will suffer till dooms day...
@shobhitkaul8076
@shobhitkaul8076 11 месяцев назад
Strange. Marx was himself Jewish
@dineshhaldawnekar8542
@dineshhaldawnekar8542 11 месяцев назад
So much for creativity! When caught, blame someone else.
@hdt8112
@hdt8112 11 месяцев назад
Any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. Shekhar, be very careful about what you say about Israel.
@adityabanerjee7145
@adityabanerjee7145 11 месяцев назад
I have seen the list of chosen people - Shekhar Gupta ...sorry...you are not in it
@hscplusclinics3661
@hscplusclinics3661 11 месяцев назад
Jab huckstering and jews ke baare mein Marks ke views bata rahe the tab mujhe delhi ke Punjabi dikh rahe the jinki homeland jinna ne cheen li thi. Aur wo apna sab kuch luta kar delhi aaye the. Ab wo business nahin karte to kya karte. Aaj log delhi ke Punjabi businessman se jalte hain to jalte rahein.....
@pravinmeher2036
@pravinmeher2036 11 месяцев назад
Very true, Mai marathi hu, maine dekha hai Maharashtra ke ek-ek chote village me bhi Marwari-gujrathi sethose se aisehi log jalate hai. Jews were hated in Europe but were safe under muslim rulers. SG ne ye nahi bataya ke vo europe me kyo rahe wapas middle east kyo nahi aaye?
@mevlanarumi5180
@mevlanarumi5180 11 месяцев назад
French cartoonist cartoon was freedom of speech and this one is anti semetism 😏
@Skyboy564
@Skyboy564 11 месяцев назад
Good episode Shekhar.
@adityaksengupta
@adityaksengupta 11 месяцев назад
Being against Israeli expansionist policies isn't being anti-Jew. The former is anti-zionism, the latter anti-semitism. A fine, but crucial difference. According to my late father Krishna Menon proved his narcissistic idiocy (UN speech for example), incompetence and obduracy during and after the war with China-- I've been "brainwashed" since childhood to have no respect for the man. However, the section of the speech quoted sounds anti-zionist rhetoric to me than anti-semitic. Before the state of Israel was carved out from someone else's territory, were the people in the region anti-semitic? I do agree that a lot of Muslims now are anti-semitic, but I'd argue that it started off as anti-zionism and got confused with anti-semitism and now has become anti-semitic.
@mahadevjalem818
@mahadevjalem818 11 месяцев назад
Wasn't Marx a Jew?
@babinmartin3913
@babinmartin3913 11 месяцев назад
@26:42 I can see one more source and probably a more direct source of the global Left-wing's anger with Israel. This is not rooted in the rights of Arabs or the resentments of the Muslim.
@PMPatel-np5jq
@PMPatel-np5jq 11 месяцев назад
Thank you SGji. Excellent, interesting & insightful sweep of history of anti/semitism. But a minute or two on hasty, unfair, artificial (geographic) birth of Israel would have fitted well in the entire narrative (which I'm sure you must have done in other vedios).
@rakadus
@rakadus 11 месяцев назад
Artificial! History has been erased.
@shobitgurung86
@shobitgurung86 11 месяцев назад
I think your pronunciation of Gobbles is wrong....
@ravish05
@ravish05 11 месяцев назад
Wonder where the French got their arms from because they had been conquered by the nazis during world war 2. How were they able to get back on their foot so quickly and sell arms to Israel by 1960s?
@gautamhalder5929
@gautamhalder5929 11 месяцев назад
Guardian champion of free speech now become overcome sensitive. All darama goes on
@DevKulkarni
@DevKulkarni 11 месяцев назад
Why do companies do this? Why can't they share the blame and sensitize the employees rather than wash their hands off of them? It's such a stupid trend in a world where high talent is increasingly rare. This guy is a cartoonist he might find other jobs. But sometimes simple people impressed by wrong or limited world view shared in their offices, communities, families etc are fired and their entire lives along with their dependents are upended. Companies behave as if they didn't know this was possible! I mean you hired the person trying to know their flaws and benefits. Why not take responsibility both ways?
@ytskt
@ytskt 11 месяцев назад
He is not a juvenile that he can be reformed... That news org is also not some model of virtue... It's just that he made a wrong cartoon at a wrong time and became a scapegoat.
@mg.f.9023
@mg.f.9023 11 месяцев назад
"All the great religions insist that the test of true spirituality is practical compassion." From the book 'Jerusalem' by Karen Armstrong.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
Nope, that is an incorrect statement. Religion means anti-empathy.
@SadaK-tr6dm
@SadaK-tr6dm 11 месяцев назад
Does Jizya make a citizen as second class citizen? As I know Muslims had to pay taxes in the form of zakat (their religious obligation) and people who were not Muslims had to pay Jizya (non religious tax). Then, how does Jizya make a person as 2nd class?
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
Zakat is not a tax. Jizya is a protection or humiliation tax. Taxes are equal for all citizens, they don't defer based on religion. Jizya was used to force convert Kafirs to Muslims or as a pretext to spread slavery.
@SadaK-tr6dm
@SadaK-tr6dm 11 месяцев назад
@@vinsin328 That is your theory. But as I understand, zakat is religious obligation of Muslims, and you cannot apply your religious obligation on people who are not Muslims. So they pay tax as state obligation, that is Jizya. I don’t see any 1st or 2nd class in this. Instead I see secularism in this, that you are not imposing your religious obligation on other religions. And most of the time the Jizya used to lesser than what zakat was paid by Muslims.
@sushantshanbhag9099
@sushantshanbhag9099 11 месяцев назад
​​@@SadaK-tr6dm well there is nowhere written in quran about jizya rate. Kings were free to impose any rate. That is why rebellions by hindu jats took place when aurangzeb reinstated it while Muslim jaats did not as they did not have to pay additional jizya along with various economic tax. Same rebellion by Greeks and armenians took place in Turkiye when ottomans reversed some secular tanzimat reforms due to pressure from Muslim leading to it's collapse. Israel mandates military service for Jews but not for arabs citizens of Israel and we see how it is going with Arabs. Do not sugarcoat wrongdoings of islam for sake of presenting it as a excellent religion
@SadaK-tr6dm
@SadaK-tr6dm 11 месяцев назад
@@sushantshanbhag9099 Does Bhagwat Gita mention about how much Govt of India should tax to the people? Don’t behave like schoolboy. Comment with some maturity. And research in history, you will find that most of the times the zakat that was paid by Muslims was more than Jizya. And zakat was paid elder Muslims and women also, and the Jizya was not.
@sushantshanbhag9099
@sushantshanbhag9099 11 месяцев назад
@@SadaK-tr6dm well give examples in the context of India first
@Jamesgosling12
@Jamesgosling12 11 месяцев назад
Shekharji, Aren’t you confusing between anti-semitism and anti-Zionism? Karl Marx or Richard Wagner are anti-semites. Whereas Krishna Menon was anti-Zionist. He spoke against Israel but not against Jews.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 11 месяцев назад
He spoke against Jews also, called them polluted people (In a capitalist sense).
@viveksinghmax
@viveksinghmax 11 месяцев назад
Very informative.....
@Valkyri3Z
@Valkyri3Z 11 месяцев назад
The root of Jewish-Muslim problem also comes from Europe. It was during world war Arabs mostly took side of Hitler because the British were the colonizers. Naturally Nazzi ideology had its effect on Arab and Muslim culture. It is in the context of world war 2 the Muslim world became Anti Semitic. Even today the Arab Jews would say they never had any problem living with Muslims. Another factor was Israel was mostly populated with White European Jews whose culture was different from Arab Jews and Muslims. It was easy for the Muslims to see them as agents of British colonizers.
@JohnSmith-vn8dm
@JohnSmith-vn8dm 11 месяцев назад
The roots of the problem lie prior to WW2, because its a religious conflict. They go back to the the 7th century with the creation of Islam and the ensuing power struggles in the region. Every state is a colonizer if you go back long enough, but prior to WW2, Germany had colonies in both Africa and Asia. 50% of Jews today and a similar portion during Israel's early years were Mizrahi Jews, or Jews from the immediate region (not Europe). They had been driven to Israel after being expelled for their religious beliefs. It was quite similar to partition. You are also wrong that Arab Jews would say they never had problems living with Muslims. In Israel's domestic politics, Arab Jews tend to be the most right wing.
@Valkyri3Z
@Valkyri3Z 11 месяцев назад
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm Bro , recorded history has NO significant cases of Jew hatred in Islamic countries before world war 2. Its a fact. The problem started with Germany and Britain rivalry. Jews in Israel were not driven out by Muslims but by Assyrians. Every state is not colonizer. Colonization is talked in specific European context. European colonization had a global effect due to its economic and political impact. You can not compare it with anything else. EVEN today Arab Jews are looked down upon by White jews. When the Arab Jews came to Israel , they were the poorest class. European Jews had much better economic condition. There is also a deep seeded racism in Israeli society that hates people of color.
@pranjalsoni1743
@pranjalsoni1743 11 месяцев назад
​@@Valkyri3Z the problem lies in the book, how long do you want to remain aloof with that
@pranjalsoni1743
@pranjalsoni1743 11 месяцев назад
​@@Valkyri3ZPhilistine people hate Jews more than the nation state Israel
@Valkyri3Z
@Valkyri3Z 11 месяцев назад
@@pranjalsoni1743 I am not sure which book. Savarkar was also inspired by the book that killed Jews in Holocaust. LOL Mein Kampf is quite popular in India. Why are you aloof with that ?
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