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Why Did The Philadelphia Flyers Pass On Zeev Buium And What Are The Minnesota Wild Getting? 

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Prospect analyst Chris Peters discusses Zeev Buium falling to the 12th overall pick in the 2024 NHL Draft with guest Matt Moran on the latest episode of Talking Hockey Sense.
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@kickedoffthetour
@kickedoffthetour 28 дней назад
All that I know is this Wild fan couldn't have been happier. Absolutely mental we've got him and Faber for 10+ years
@rossbenedict272
@rossbenedict272 28 дней назад
10 years? As a long time wild fan, what world do you live in where they would both stay here 10 years? NOBODY wants to play in MN right now and we literally kill every prospect we have by leaving them to wither away in Iowa.. I would love for them to be here long term but I’m not holding my breathe by any stretch of the imagination
@kickedoffthetour
@kickedoffthetour 28 дней назад
​@@rossbenedict272 There are significantly more players staying long-term in Minnesota than leaving. The most recent departure of note would be Fiala and that's arguably a cap casualty. Dumba minus his injury would have stayed, and cap issues. Brodin Spurgeon Eriksson Ek Boldy looks likely for 10 years Faber is obviously staying in Minnesota longterm There's been turnover as well from coaching staffs and Fletcher to Fenton to Billy G. All different philosophies. I legitimately have no clue what you're talking about here because if Zeev pans out to his potential the Wild will have a dynamic top D pairing. Why would that change??? 😂
@patrickmckernan7122
@patrickmckernan7122 28 дней назад
Does Zeev have the same agent at Cutter ? That sure would matter I’d say.
@rossbenedict272
@rossbenedict272 28 дней назад
They do have the same agent
@shawnerickstad129
@shawnerickstad129 29 дней назад
Even the commentator on ESPN, don’t remember her name but she’s a Canadian even commented when Detroit was drafting that we know it won’t be an American because Yzerman doesn’t draft Americans. Unfortunately some Canadian teams and Canadian GM’s try not to draft Americans which is stupid. Who cares where they are from if your a good GM you get the best player for your organization
@niklaslundh8944
@niklaslundh8944 29 дней назад
In a perfect world yes, but how many times will you get burned by in this case Americans who wont sign before you learn and move on ?
@carlschiller5646
@carlschiller5646 11 дней назад
@@niklaslundh8944If you’re not an incompetent franchise and handle their development correctly it’s not a problem
@seanbroccoli2698
@seanbroccoli2698 8 дней назад
It relevant because where they are from can impact whether or not they stay. Like they mentioned in the video the Flames had several American players bail on them the 1st chance they got, Fox, Tkachuk, Gaudreau and Hanifin
@willcc5074
@willcc5074 28 дней назад
love what the Flyers did in drafting Luchanko...but it is a risk to take a less consensus player than Biuim. Next year's draft will be critical with 3 first round picks and their own pick may be a top pick, if the team doesn't exceed expectations as they did this past year.
@asphaltcowboy7567
@asphaltcowboy7567 27 дней назад
You're obviously a stepford, love EVERYTHING the flyers do, fan. It was a horrible putrid draft
@willcc5074
@willcc5074 28 дней назад
Also I'd add that the fallout from Gauthier led to this decision. If they had Gauthier and not Drysdale, I'd say they most likely would have been thrilled to have taken Biuim.
@asphaltcowboy7567
@asphaltcowboy7567 27 дней назад
They F up a future all-star in Cutter as well
@seanbroccoli2698
@seanbroccoli2698 8 дней назад
@@asphaltcowboy7567 How? He's the one who said he didnt want to play for them. He's the one that cut contact and refused to try and work things out.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 16 дней назад
For me, the two biggest (and welcome) surprises in the first round: Wild getting Zeev Buium and somehow Utah getting Tij Iginla.
@ArmChairGMPodcast
@ArmChairGMPodcast 29 дней назад
It shocked me. I think zeev will become the most well rounded guy in the drsft, but time will tell. As a flames fan i certainly like the Parekh pick, but I think we should have gone for Buium. I see your American players not going to small market Canadian teams point. I don't really buy into it. Mismangenent was to blame. Tkachuk wanted a long term deal and didnt get one, Treliving opted for a bridge. He short changed Gaudreau and accepted the "no negotiation during the season" thing. Treliving's failings led to the Hanifin wanting out. Fox is the only one i really think is relevant, and just because one young American player only wants to play for one team and swings his dick around to get what he wants doesn't mean the next guy will. Great conversation guys!!
@ugiswrong
@ugiswrong 20 дней назад
It’s because his agent is the same as Quitter Gauthier’s
@progshark
@progshark 27 дней назад
"Which hand?" was ultimately a bigger question and more important consideration than "where from?" as far as this defensive draft went. I was shocked both Dickinson and Buium were available when my Sharks drafted and I really, really wanted Buium. But it didn't take long for me to understand why and see that it was the right choice.
@brianawilk285
@brianawilk285 29 дней назад
As a flyers fan I didnt want another defensemen but I wanted Helenius or Berkly. I didnt know enough about Jett but he looks like a high IQ guy that is a great skater.
@salkdhfpoahergpoahre1534
@salkdhfpoahergpoahre1534 28 дней назад
Helenius's draw seemed to be that he can probably play in the NHL sooner, but his ceiling was more limited, while Jett has the potential to progress a lot further, but it will likely take 2-3 years.
@seancosgrove1
@seancosgrove1 28 дней назад
Don't Buium and Gauthier have the same agent? Might've been something to do with it.
@seanbroccoli2698
@seanbroccoli2698 8 дней назад
Luchenko is going to be a great picl. He's younger than the rest of the class which means his projections could be off. Many see him as a 2nd line C but theres potential there to exceed that. Time will tell. Frankly I think Briere's reasoning was a lie. Im pretty sure the Gauthier situation played a big part given they share the same agent. I also think Buium isnt going to be a top pair Guy. I think he will turn out to be a Ghost like player
@MrVisde
@MrVisde 28 дней назад
The Sharks would’ve selected Buium, but they were pushed around so often and out muscled on the puck last year…I think they had to choose Dickinson. Couldn’t have yet another undersized defenseman. I personally loved watching Buium this past year. He is so smooth with the puck…especially compared to someone like Lane Hutson (who also brings a ton of offense, but it’s a lot more chaotic). I think Buium is going to have a very long career, such a smart defenseman.
@MNWildFan57
@MNWildFan57 28 дней назад
What do you consider undersized? Are you talking about his weight?
@rexxx4fun
@rexxx4fun 28 дней назад
Buium as a potential hedge against the possibility that Drysdale and Andrae don't necessarily pan out, doesn't sound like the dumbest thing a GM could do in this moment.... And I say that as one who doesn't dislike Luchenko. who I think will be a nice player. They used that 3rd rounder to move up to take Gill. All of this second guessing could have been avoided had Chuckles taken Jiricek instead of pretty boy Gauthier, and at this point would have Jiricek/Michkov/Perrault.
@ryanlee8932
@ryanlee8932 15 дней назад
As a flyers fan I’m glad we didn’t go with zeev could be a top pair d but I think more likely he’s a good top 4 d that’s just my personal opinion from the very few things I’ve seen from him plus he’s a wild card could be another brat like cutter and want to leave and go play somewhere else
@davidsperber4435
@davidsperber4435 29 дней назад
What do you think about Sharks choosing Dickerson over Zeev
@Jmango9988
@Jmango9988 29 дней назад
The Sharks will regret it, big time. But, it's not unlike the Sharks to screw up a high first round pick. Hence, why they've never won a Cup.
@nickterhaar544
@nickterhaar544 29 дней назад
They clearly valued Dickinson's bigger frame and 6'3 height
@AnaheimRob
@AnaheimRob 29 дней назад
@@Jmango9988 Dickson is bigger and most likely will be better defensively. The Sharks need Defensemen that can play defense first.
@phil7121
@phil7121 29 дней назад
Grier surely would have been happy with Buium, but they have most important offensive prospects already in Celebrini, Smith and Musty while they have huge gaping holes in shutdown D and goaltending It was a case of 2 very closely ranked BPA candidates but one clearly fills a bigger need
@AnaheimRob
@AnaheimRob 29 дней назад
@@phil7121 I agree and trust me I don't want the Sharks to get "too good" but they are headed in the right direction and Dickson was without question the right player for them.
@adams8367
@adams8367 29 дней назад
We didn’t want another small defenseman. We wanted the Jett✈️
@asphaltcowboy7567
@asphaltcowboy7567 27 дней назад
😅😂😅😅
@vincentlamont226
@vincentlamont226 29 дней назад
Ottawa Senators… Tkatchuk, Norris, Sanderson, Pinto… all American. They needed right hand defence… Buim is not that !
@shawnerickstad129
@shawnerickstad129 29 дней назад
Also Ottawa has a new GM since those American picks. I think especially smaller market Canadian teams prefer a Canadian player over other countries especially USA which I understand as many cases the American players seem to try get back to a American market team
@gregorydelorme8094
@gregorydelorme8094 29 дней назад
Carter in know in nhl draft tables, mean fights, etc u have know prospects I guess u don’t know much about hockey
@papironni4690
@papironni4690 28 дней назад
Because I believe what RU-vidrs say than the actual 12 NHL teams that has a lot of money to employ hundreds of scouts and the money to get the job done.
@mbodine804
@mbodine804 8 дней назад
So, 0.00 % of Flyers fans watch hockey huh? EFF off. After listening to your analysis of what Briere has done so far maybe it's you who doesn't watch hockey.
@bdawk511
@bdawk511 4 дня назад
Yeah what the hell kind of statement is that? Flyers fans and Philly fans in general are very knowledgeable and pay attention to the sport at large. What a dumb statement
@asphaltcowboy7567
@asphaltcowboy7567 27 дней назад
Bc they're dumb!! Also pannicked and unprepared after they failed to move up.. They loved Demidov and Dickinson.. F that up.. They're ruining the franchise..
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