Speak for yourself. Don't get me wrong, I like Deni as a fit to replace Grant but we gave up a 2 way 6th man of the year with size at position who could shoot, create and facilitate for Deni. I can accept that trade at face value because Brogdon doesn't fit our timeline, but then we gave up 2 first AND 2 second round pics when Washington is already getting the better player! Brogdon isn't even on a bad contract!!! We got FLEECED!!!!!
@@tedcalouri2694believe me Deni will be a much better player than Brogdan. We got some draft capital but I don’t know how good those picks could be. I wish we kept Deni and the first round pick we got this year is barely in the lottery
As a Wizards fan I was immediately pissed and confused by the trade. Because I watch all the games I'm excited to see how Deni will do in Portland, however I Hate the concept of trading away good young talent for a pick that's 5 or more years from now. By the time we select Deni will most likely be in his prime. I do not like this trade but I have to hope that the front office knows what they're doing, and that Blazers utilize Deni properly. I'm excited with core we have there's nice foundation, but I feel like we could've made a better move.
maybe you gotta think of this in a business sense instead of a basketball sense. sounds to me like the wizards have buyer's remorse concerning deni's contract extension. deni is starting a 4-year, $55 million contract. brogdon is in the last year of his deal. the wizards have no starting point guard, and deni plays the same position as kuzma. brogdon starts the season for the wizards, and the wizards trade him at the deadline or buy him out if/when the wizards stink again this year.
Blazers fan here. At the very, and I mean very, least, Brogdon was a great veteran to have around our young players last season. He is a class act, and many blazers last year attributed wins to him in games where Brogdon didn't even play. As far as transitional veterans go, Brogdon is a good one. That being said, I am now a fan of the Wizards Front Office 🫡
Deni was traded at pretty much maximum value. Just had his breakout year on a team devoid of competition for touches on a great contract with a couple years of team control. Makes sense for the Blazers to get a good player, sense for the Wiz to finally move assets at peak value, good for both sides. Wiz are probably targeting 2028ish to be competitive again and that's outside Deni's contract. If I'm either team, I'm happy with how it went.
Didnt see this coming. As you mentioned, it should have been Kuz that was traded. Deni is a mid range game away from being a young 6-9 three level scoring, two way, able to power drive and get the line, make the next right play, able to run the offense, player. Thats an AS in the making. You don't freakn trade that player a 23 on a cheap declining contract. You build around them. This FO has been a complete train wreck. Deni was the main reason I tuned in to watch games last year. With Beal, KP, Gaff and now Deni gone. I don't feel any connection to this team anymore. And Ive been a fan since I was 10 years old. If you were going to move Deni, this wasn't the year to do it. This was the year to feature him even more. It was only post ASB they started giving him 30 plus per game. This FO has been a complete train wreck since day one.
The Wizards suck. I've been a fan of the Bullets since 1973. Washington was last competitive in 1979-1980. This team hasn't won 50 games but 1 time in 50 years. Watching Deni go reminds me of Rip Hamilton going. Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace were Wizards. Chris Webber was a Wizards player. Most recently Daniel Gafford was a Wizard. All i can say is God blessed Deni. Washington has new general management and coaching, but i think this approach won't work either.
Blazer's fans are asking why we gave up so much. 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks AND the former 6th man of the year for a promising young forward. Brogdon didn't fit our timeline but he was an impact player on both sides of the ball that could create a bit off the dribble, facilitate, and shoot from range. He also has solid size at his position. If you evaluate his potential for your team, do so off of what he did in Boston. As a Blazer he could cut himself shaving and spend 2 weeks on the inury report because they were trying to lose. Blazers fans were of the assumption a player with Brogdon's abilities would be traded to a contender in exchange for a draft pic or a young player like Avdija. Not a young player AND 4 draft pics! Your A and D are accurate but you assigned them backwards.
Because we are blowing it all to pieces, and Deni does not help our rebuild going forward. I’ll take the three 1s and live with a year of Malcolm Brogdon.
Avdija is gonna be a beast but the Wizards did the right thing trading him away first of all they got their pg for the next decade and secondly they get worse so they can start tanking for more picks.
I don't think they got good offers for Kuzma and therefore they decided to trade Deni (they need draft picks and have too much forwards). I don't think the Wizards developed Dani as they should, and he can't be much better without the ball in his hands, and he won't get it here (Dawkins at least didn't believe in him).
As a Blazers fan, I was super happy and surprised to see that we got Deni and I agree that he should fit right in on this Portland team (potentially becoming more than a role player, like you said). I saw some Blazers fans questioning if we gave up too many picks, but from my perspective Deni was 100% worth it. And then Malcom Brogdon was kinda like a first year mentor for Scoot Henderson, so maybe he’s gonna play that role in Washington for a year or two. Brogdon is a legitimately good guard who can step in when things get rough and give you 20-30 every night if used like that. Or he can play backup for the young guys and support them mentally and like encourage them and that type of thing. Malcom is a good dude, he just didn’t fit our timeline and we were happy to get him off for that reason.
Actually when the ball doesn't move and people don't pass the ball, Deni is having difficult time offensively so idk. You guys don't like passing the ball.
Deni Avdija is best as a point forward. he played PG at high-school. they've changed his role from SF to point forward after the TDL and his numbers went to 20ppg 6apg 8rpg at that part of the season. ending with 15 6 4 the all season. True shooting 60%.
Trade Jerami to Lakers for Rui, hope to see new starters like this C. Donovan Clingan 7-2 PF. Rui Hachimura 6-8 SF. Deni Avdjia 6-9 SG. Shaedon Sharpe 6-5 PG. Scoot Henderson 6-3
as Deni's fan (i am from Israel), i think Wizards front office just do not plan on being completive this year. Deni is already contributing on both sides of the floor and he is competitive by his nature, so they just sell him for what they see as a good prices in terms of picks. They would have done it earlier if they got such an offer. Now that they got 2 1st round picks plus active tradable player, they "cash" the asset. Success? not in their plan for the next 1 or 2 years...
Deni was gonna be the next Otto porter for us. Probably will never average more than 18ppg, probably never make an all star team, will never make an all nba or a defensive team and has pretty much reached his ceiling (which is still a good one). He also wasn’t drafted by the new management team so he more than likely didn’t fit their vision.
The reasons to trade Deni are probably: To keep on losing to get a lottery picks in the next 2025 & 2026 drafts, which are supposed to be strong lineup picks. The second reason is to clear his game minutes time to other young players and the last reason is his market value right now, which is high due to his decreasing yearly contract and his breakout season last year. Overall in my opinion, this is a bad decision for the wiz and they will regret it in the future since I don't think that Deni alone could make the Wizards a winning team without taking anything out from Den as a excellent and versatile player.
I think you nailed it with the new frontoffice take. Prob the best video ive seen from a 200 subs channel, big respect my man keep grinding you got my sub
Deni will be happy as hell in Rip City. We Root for the Blazers and BOO The Visiting Team!! No more Home Crowd BETRAYING you as a Player!! Here in Portland we actually Care about Basketball!! I dont know wtf Washington has been doing for the Last 44 years. Basketball Hell. A Prison Sentence is more like it.
Actually when the ball doesn't move and people don't pass the ball, Deni is having difficult time offensively so idk. You guys don't like passing the ball.
I totally disagree and think this was an amazing trade for Washington. You just got 4 pics and a moveable asset (that BTW was 6 man of the year 2 years ago for a man that averages less than 15 points on the 2nd worst team in the league. You used the number 14th Pic and drafted your future point guard and then used the 24th Pic and drafted a younger cheaper version of Deni. K. George has the same game as Deni. He is a better shooter, and just like Deni, when George gets in the weight room and realizes his own strength in 2 years he will be Deni 2.0 for the Wizards You can't grade this trade straight up until you see it completely through
Seems like Blazers did fine because they got a solid young player. And the Wizards did fine because they got off a non-rookie contract and got younger and will be bad next year and likely pick high in a better draft while getting 2 firsts and 2 seconds and who knows what else they could get for Brogdon from a vet team. Maybe another late first? Better to tank hard than stay middle of the pack. If you keep Deni and Kuzma and win 30+ games next year you probably need much more young talent than you've got and you maybe pick 9th or something instead of 2nd or so. And you find more minutes for other young players to grow.
the wizzards wanted to tank bad so that's why they dropped the only deccent player they had. A great trade for the blazers, Deni is exactly what they need, a young, very unselfish player who loves to pass the ball, run the offence and actually deffends! they have a promising young core (although i am not a big Grant fan and i am not sure of Billup's coaching abilities yet) who may get to the playoffs in about 3-4 years! i am very happy for Portland
Washington could also want to get better by getting worse today. The next two drafts may be pretty appealing, and next year Washington could be in position for a top 5 pick. Deni may have netted a few more wins, pushed them into the 5-8 range? So, if Washington gives up Deni but drafts top 3 next year, it's a win developmentally. If they end up 5 or lower, then only random luck on that player will make this a smart move, and it could be a backfire.
Im a true Wizards fan for years watch all 82 games , it was time for Deni to leave after 4 years in Washington what you see is all you gonna get with his play if he gave this team 20 plus points a game everynight he wouldn't got traded in fact they be building the team around him. Nope he can be gone
They gon see lol. Your offering me 2 1Rd picks, 2 2Rd picks, Malcolm Brogdon(possible 1st or good trade filler) for DENI LOL...I'll take that 100/100 times easily.
It hurts losing Deni but he’s more valuable than Kuzma and the best asset we had. Kuzma’s value went down after the Mavericks rejected our offer. Give the Wizards credit for being shrewd. You have to respect the front office’s aggressiveness. They told us they would get more first round picks and they actually did it.
They are sacrificing the present for an unknown future. It's a hard pill to swallow letting go of Deni just as he's finally began blossoming... in 2 years time if we have a playoff team then I'll trust front office and the "process"... right now I'm sad to let Deni go and you can bet he'll have a heck of a season next year in a blazers uniform... :(
Love Deni but we have to stop acting like we traded prime kawhi lol, if you told me we'd get this package a year ago for Deni I'd say you were smoking crack lol
@@isidoro8566 doesn't really matter when he's apparently not part of the new front office's future, they Capitalized to bring in their own guys, I wish the best to Deni, but he'll never be a superstar, he's a damn good role player tho, and that's okay
As a Blazer fan, I believe the main reason the Wizards traded Deni is because the new management wants to get the highest pick possible in a very talented '25 draft, and Deni would have won too many games to make that happen. Blazers are in a similar situation, and needed to unload Brogdon and soon Grant to give young guys more minutes, and more importantly, insure loses to get a high pick in the '25 draft.
In my opinion the answer is easy. Washington wants to tank. They want to get the 1st or 2nd pick next draft which is projected to be a strong one. Deni was going to win then some games so they traded him while his value is high. They wanted as many picks as possible for him and Portland gave them that.
Die hard Wiz fan here..I understand where ur coming from because I liked Deni. It does hurt but the front office kinda looks like they know what they're doing tbh gotta trust the process. Bub had a pretty nice first summer league game. Only time will tell
@@nttiv7725 listen to your own words, "five years is when you actually START peaking lmfao". So players only peak for one year? And if you're a player that was good enough to be in the league at a younger age, you start regressing at 23? LMFAO! You wouldn't know facts if Alex Trebek was your Daddy. Usually trolls don't embarrass themselves that easily. You must be a special edition of 'special'. I'm a real one, eyelid kid. Get back under the porch with the puppies, pup.
Sorry but Deni sucks. He put up stats because our team was so horrible and team went through the motions against us. In close end games situations he was terrible 27% and he is at best your 4th best player on a playoff team. I had high hopes but if you watched the games in person he did not pass the eye test offensively or defensively.
The Wizards saw Deni play well, and improving a lot this year, so they had to trade him for a bag of chips before his value is too high. What a bad trade wow - a mediocre first, probably mediocre first, and Brogdon who probably worth a bad first - why are they doing this? Feels like the front office went short on their own team
As a Deni stan I think you are underestimating how bad the Blazers situation is. Deni can shoot behind the ark sometimes, but he wont dribble and score on you from there. The blazers shooting behind the ark is really bad, making the paint packed where Deni excels. Add to that they have the lowest number of assists in the league and the biggest number of turnovers.... Deni do needs the ball in his hands a bit, in the Blazers that just wont happened. If he preserves his stats from last year, that a huge dub. I doubt it though.
You’ve got a great style to your videos… you speak from your heart. As a Blazers fan, I feel it. Good luck to you this season and I hope everything works out for both teams
I think the main idea about this trade is that the wizards are on a rebuild. They don't wanna win games, and Deni would help them win games. It's that simple
You are the first person to say that Deni could go beyond a role player. That’s my thoughts. I’m watching his video and looking at his stats and I’m thinking this guy COULD be a major player at Portland. I like him for what’s between the ears. I’d run the offense through him. I admit I’m a little over my skis but I kind of think that’s what I’m seeing. I’m more excited for this trade than our 7th pick. I feel like I’m the only one in Portland that feels this way.
You're not alone on this. I'm super high on him and think if the Blazers are smart they should build the offense through him, because he's basically a 6'9' tank with guard skills. I hope they going to use him the right way and not just let him stay at the corner, because the Wizards have wasted him for 3 and half seasons doing that, and only when they started running the offense through him on consistent basis, he shined.
I feel bad for Wizards fans. Yall have had to deal with some BS for a long time. But I'm extremely happy for my Blazers to get this guy. The rebuild in Portland is starting to take shape, and this kid is going to be a great piece for us.
Y'all had a player like Dame and wasted his years surrounding him with Mediocre talent how are y'all feel bad about us? Dame better than any player we had in your lifetime and couldn't' win either, it's a reason we were losing lol. Y'all in the same damn boat, haven't really won shit significant since the 90's. Now y'all act like y'all got a Superstar in Deni because he looked good on the 2nd worst team in basketball. I got love for Deni He's an above average Top 10-15 draft type of player and it took him years and a Beal less team to do that. Don't feel bad for a team in the same not winning boat as your team bruh. Dame Portland teams were no better than when Wall and Beal teams overall that was killing and taking us to the playoffs IJS
@jba414 Actually the Blazers went to the Western Conference Finals with Dame. Infact most of Dames career in Portland were on winning teams. Neil Olshey in the end though completely failed to capitalize on Dames prime. And he had lost confidence that specific moves would be made under Cronin that fit his timeline. But Cronin did him a solid by sending him to Mikwaukee to try and win a chip which obviously didn't happen, but Cronin could have gotten a lot more for him on a different deal with a different team. But anyway my point is that Portland has definitely fallen on hard times in the last 5 years and are in a complete rebuild. The Wizards however has been bad for what seems like forever. My comment was a statement to you and the rest of your fanbase deserving better than what you've gotten for many years. I've experience it with baseball concerning my Seattle Mariners never trying to build a legitimate contender. I'm sure many fans in DC want to have a winning organization whether it be football or basketball. You guys have won a world series in the recent past so that's worth something. I hope my Mariners eventually go there. But it would be great for the NBA is Washington rose up on the Eastern Conference like Milwaukee has. I just think you guys deserve better, my guy. I also feel like Rip City fans deserve better. But the move we made for Deni was a highway robbery. I get that you guys are tanking for next years draft. But you could have gotten a lot better haul for Deni, and everybody knows that. But we're extremely happy to have Deni. And he's definitely not a Dame or a Beal or even a Wall type. But he's a very good player for a position of need that'll help get us where we want to be.
Sad? What has Portland done since the 90's? Wasted Dame years putting mediocre talent around him. As a Wizards fan folks act like Deni was putting up huge numbers, no he was putting up pick 14 numbers and took him years to do that. Giving him all this credit put up consistent numbers on a trash team, comical. When Beal were there he wasn't doing anything. I love Deni in Washington but he's an above average player at best. We sad and Portland in the same boat 😂
@@jba414 but this year deni stepped up his game big time dropping 43 i believe(most an israeli has ever dropped in the nba), a bunch of 20+ games and he was above solid for them this season pretty much being their only good player this year maybe aside from ck i think
😅Bruh, You are a little to hype over Deni. They are going super young (18, 19, 20). Deni is peaking at 23...We got two 1st and two 2nds for Deni. That's incredible. Let Deni go be great now...💪We are building....slowly...Chill Bro 👍
@@bradjohnson2273 you blazers fans are hilarious last time y’all won a chip was what 1977? One more year longer than us without a ring? 😂 y’all not building 💩 either tf on somewhere lmfao.
@@thesunofgod. sorry the blazers actually like to go to the playoffs now and again. Yall out there spending money on trash players with no upside. starting the tank before summer league even starts. Just got fleeced by the blazers for Deni so thank you!
Delusional Portland fans call our organization bad and they wasted Dame years. Not only that made the worst draft pick in NBA history lol. Do yall not know that BOTH these organizations haven't won shit(rings) since the 70's? 😂
Knicks fan: I don’t easily bandy-about trades of Julius Randle, because he is a really talented scorer, playmaker and rebounder. I have to admit that, once I realized Deni was on the market, I kinda wanted to entertain trading Julius. As Knicks fans, we don’t quite know yet what Julius’s ceiling is with Anonoby. I think it will be amazing. However, Deni brings all that playmaking, with high-level 3-point shooting, versatile scoring, excellent D, and still an open ceiling. Deni likes to play a team game, which would have meshed really well on this Knicks team. Randle is probably more talented, and I think our supporting roster will bring out the best in him. Anyway, such a trade would not have made sense for the BULLETS (sorry, child of the 80’s, and I can’t Disnyfy pro hoops, even if former owner Abe Pollin had his heart in the right place). I think Randle will be awesome this year. I also think Deni will be awesome in Portland. Who doesn’t want the next, better iteration of Toni Kukoc?
not saying the trade was the best but we finished 1 win above the pistons last year with Deni. Deni not the end all be all we will be fine. Plus this allows Bilal to take that next step
I think it should be put into perspective that the Kings drafted with the #13 selection, instead of trading it to the rumored teams. So it’s likely the Kings had the #13 pick with bad assets the front office didn’t think was worth the trade. And WSH wasn’t the only team thinking that. In short, why Deni over Kuzma. Possibly because you can trade players other teams want.
The Wizards management stated that they were hoping to obtain a second lottery pick; thus, it is not surprising that they dealt one of their players. It was also clear that management intended to reduce the number of forwards on the roster in order to accomplish this goal. So it was most likely that Kuz or Deni would be the ones to go. Regardless, I believe this deal demonstrates how the current NBA market values Deni over Kuz, who may not have the actual true demand as claimed, which is why Deni was chosen.
To me The Wizards got Bub Carrington for Deni Avdija. Now Malcolm Brogdon can turn into other picks as well. I think Bub has a better skill set than Deni. I think Bub has a bigger upside. The one thing Deni has that Bub doesn’t is experience. I wish Deni the best in Portland though.
Because he probably doesn't want to play for weak team like Washington Wizards their garbage get over it. Did you don't even know why he got traded? I'll tell you why he got traded because he asked the front office to trade him. Because your team is garbage, get over it stop 😢 😭 crying
Great video, but I thought this was a good trade for the Wiz. I'm a die-hard fan and I really liked Deni but if you are going to rebuild you have to acquire assets. The Wiz are building a trove of assets. That's a good thing. Deni is realy ball dominate and plays at a slower pace. We have young wings that need minutes.
Portland fan here and I sure AH ain’t complaining! When they drafted Carrington it took no great genius (which I am not) to think, “they must be aiming to trade him”
Isn't it possible Deni asked to be traded because he's ready to win? The Wizards FO have said many times they want to make deals where everybody wins. If a player doesn't want to fully commit to a rebuild they in theory would trade him? Just a thought
Rumor has it, deni has family over in Portland. He is rumor to have asked GM winger to get traded to Portland solely to be closer to his family due to being homesick. It didn’t sound like deni wanted to go to any other team. If that’s true, good on GM for doing right by a guy that’s stuck by us through these times.
I think people massively under value Brogdon. The Blazers were actually a decent team when he was in the lineup and lost 17 of the first 18 games he missed.
Kyle Kuzma can go 1v4 when he has the ball ezpz. Yes it's 75% TO and 25% shot which misses 70% of the time, but that's a skill man! Why would you give that up!
As a wizards fan I thought this was a great trade for us got a lot of value and didn’t have to pay deni a large contract. (plus bub gonna be better then deni was👀)
Low first round picks rarely turn into solid long term players.Deni can shoot the rock it’s something portland lacks.I think this trade favors portland I feel like he’s going to start for Portland and we might be moving on from grant.
When my home team drafted Deni I was shocked because I knew nothing about him. Watching him grow and improve over these past 3 seasons he turned me into a believer. I know nothing about you. Do you live in DC etc. last night there were quite a few # of anti Israeli comments on local Wizards sites…and after grinding on this trade I’ll say this now: the current mayor of DC is a racist and an antisemite! I have no doubt she put pressure on Wizards management to move Deni out of time. Also I now have an opinion about the Wizard’s management: they are either very weak or on board for the democrats evil BS. The Deni trade was the polar opposite of the Elvin Hayes trade the Bullets made in the early 70’s, BAD. The two other 1st round picks Stinketh! Trade/Fire the new team except for the coaching staff….😢 PS I’ve unsubscribed from my main Wiz RU-vid channel, NOT because he joined the racist talk, he did push back. However his facial expressions showed me that he was socked…but he pulled back from strongly condemning it. He may correct that soon, because I’ve been watching him for about 2 years and like the #1 pick last year he has grown a lot!
We got two first round picks, and Brogdan who’ll well flip for a first round. So essentially 3FRPs. He’s really good but his value won’t be this high. And 2 other 2nd. Deni has star potential, but if you don’t give him keys it won’t ever show. We’ll be fine.
dont know yet, this was deni's outlier year, which just so happens to be the tank year where he becomes a top 2-3 scoring option. even poole was getting 20ppg off the bench in the second half of the season. only time will tell if this is bad because we got a lot of draft capital for a guy who gets 14ppg at over 30-35 mpg lol
@@tommorrissey4726he isnt an Dawkins/Winger guy and they probably dont believe he’s gonna get much better so they moved him at the highest value they think he will have
while deni is a good player, he is still a bit limited. he's a very good 4th player on a good/playoff team. its a pretty good haul for a team that's years away from competing.
DC Basketball is the Worst. The Wizards exist so people can go Root for the Visiting team. Wizards should have their Franchise Taken Away. Give it to a City that Cares about Basketball.
Thats funny coming from a Portland fan whose franchise has 1 championship JUST LIKE US & Who's franchise has been waiting since the Late 70s for another Title JUST LIKE US, so please stop. Your mediocre JUST LIKE US. But dont disrespect the city. DMV is basketball. They've made documentaries about DMV basketball. Its WAY, WAY too many college and NBA ballers that are born & bred here to count. It would get even crazier if I went 45 min up north & included Baltimore.
Wizards fan here. Deni was good, but not good enough to lead a rebuild. It would’ve been wasteful to keep him. Better to rip the band aid off. That said, he’s gonna be a fantastic fit in Portland, so I think this was a win win
Teams were just offering more for Deni than they were for Kuz. Plus Deni was playing out of position at the 3 and taking minutes away for Bilal and the other young wings
