Why Did Ukraine Become Its Own Country? 

It is very innacurate and subject of propaganda.

@@welran and there we have the first bot.

@@prismaticc_abyss you don't even know what bot is. But I didn't surprised

@@welran you have no idea what youre talking about, youre just repeating what your government tells you

@@prismaticc_abyss, the facts. Crimea annexed by Russian Empire from Crimean Khanate at 1783. You can read about it in Wikipedia. There wasn't any slavs before this. It become populated by russian settlers during 2 centuries. There was lot of russian soldiers (crimean war 1853-1856) and there was lots of russian aristocrates building palaces. And what does we see in this video? Russian russificate ukraininans thats why in Crimea speak russian. It is nonsence. And it is all in history books which you don't bother to read.

It technically was? Novgorod and Moscow were tributary states. Everything else is spot on. Also the Habsburg use of UA as a tool against Polish Nationalism (which is why East Galicia is part of UA today).

Cause y’all were nazis lol

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"...omijajcie , góry , lasy , pola , doły ..."

How they were Russified Polish? They are the people from the Kievan Rus which then got conquered by lithuania.

@@mitonaarea5856 my friend, they got conquered by Lithuania, Lithuania picked up their language and later when Poland came around and started Polonising Lithuania proper so did the Belarussians began calling themselves lithuanians and learning polish to gain political freedoms... By the end of 18th century no one in Belarus spoke belarussian

oh that i highly support!

@Safwaan definitely not the Sickman of Europe and Sickman of Europe vol.2, It would be either France or Russia

@Safwaan unless... If Germany never unites, Prussia remains Polish vassal and so the Commonwealth lives on, with weak german states Austria focuses more on them seeing as they have no rival and so Russia on it's own is too weak to defeat the Commonwealth... So really we could see a totally different Europe

If Germany never reunited, the great powers of continental Europe would be France plus either Russia or Poland, or both.

More like Austria would rule the German speaking world.

After eighty years people of Ukraine voted to remain in Soviet Union en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

@@welran In 1991 the people of the Ukraine knew what happened to 'traitors' who voted against the government. One-party systems get lopsided votes that don't reflect the actual will of the people.

@@andrewszigeti2174 lol

@@welran imagine living under propaganda without alternative sources. Ask people now, Ask the old ones.

@@YuraK25 yo live under propaganda!

It doesnt really matter in terms of national identity. If this video would be about geopolitical status during centuries, then sure. It would be super important due to the forced industralization of that region by the Soviet Union.

@@bohomazdesign725 You know what they were doing during ww2 and that they still don't regret that? It's part of their National identity because they still proud of that what happened.

@@michabarwikowski9145 ah here we go again :) There is literally no nation in the world that is not guilty of genocide. This includes also Poles and Ukrainians. So spare ur bullshit and calm down. It's 2022. Grow up.

@@michabarwikowski9145 PS: Only 2% voted for the UKR fascists in the last elections. Meanwhile In Poland fascists got around 10% votes in the last selections. U may wanna first clear ur own home before u go out and shittalk others.

@@bohomazdesign725 ONR falanga Got 10%,? Or yoy are Talking about right party Konfederacja? And man one thing to say 2% is big popularity. And for example they have Stepan Bandera sculptures ( fasisct man his organisation was responsible for killing jews, poles, russians and ukraines who helped for other nations.) They president disaproved to take the bodys from the mass graves so they would have normal cementary. And remind me we have in polish history National organisation that was killing other nationalities?

Interesting comment, the lore gets deeper..

Ruotsi comes from Roslagen which is a part of Uppland, the main seat of the swedish norsemen.

@@dodmof2428 Ah nice, so it's even deeper than I thought.

@@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Yes

Yeah the story of the population of crimea is not at all what uoud describe

Because it's to suit the good guy narrative atm

@@mrsmith-sh2px it's asking why the country exists and the history of the people and the country, i don't get what stephan bandera, a fascist, has to do with this, sure, praising a fascist is horrendous, but in nowhere does he mention the current war at all... Not to mention, Russia invaded Ukraine for quite literally, no reason at all

​​@@vynicle2284 Stepan is a hero of UA nationalism. That is why it is relevant. And RU does not want another N @ Z I country on the border. Especially not one backed by N A T O. This is why they are now cleaning up and pacifing the region.

I think that everyone asks this tbh, not just the Russians

Lol. They speak radiation.

BELA(RUS).

UKRAINE()?

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@@SoryRNhe saying Russia starved Ukraine repeatedly by taking their grain and giving it to themselves

@@Mrtroop-bd3xu Russia was not even a nation in of itself back then and they were united with Ukraine along the fact that the USSR was led by Georgians,Ukrainians and so more It had few Russians as leaders so to accuse Russia fully and less much so Russia today of those things makes little sense even then the grain part isn't that true because when the starvations happened the USSR ordered to send aid to relieve people that were suffering so to I don't think this was delibarate

​@kfn kfnski I missed this when was redacting the message XD. One second I'll correct that.

@kfn kfnski yes what did you think ?

Nope none of this is true its historic knowledge the reason why belorussian and ukrainain are different is because of the poles. I knkw however what you are doing. Its filthy little thinking and ideology that needs to be exterminated. I have seen it gain a biy more popularity recently. This idea of isolating russia from its sister nations and presenting it as something entirly different with pseudo history in order to dehumanize russia and outcast it. You broke your own logic if ukrianes langauge wasnt influenced by the polish why us it so simular to it then ? Also i am bulgarian and how the f*ck is it that russians can understnad 77% of polish words,74% of slovak,czech,bulgarian and slovene and 71% of serbian ?

I very much doubt the Mongols were able to influence the Russians more than the polish could influence the Ukrainians, the Russians were simply under tribute of the horde not directly controlled. And also what do you mean Moscow betrayed the other Russian cities? Muscovy was the state to finally break the Tatar yolk.

​@@grenadaball7655 He's refering to the time Muscowy and Novgorod were tributary states. But at no point did they raise arms against their brothers, nor did they enhlave anyone. That part is bull.

lmao you are fast. ps love ur videos too bro

@@FukChit I appreciate it!

I would argue this statement. While in the times of Rus there actually was a single dialect continium among all eastern slavs, long-term isolation of Rus successors in Grand Duchy of Lithuania and North-Eastern principalties led to the situation when in late 14th century Proto-Russian and Western Rus (or Ruthenian) languages were already separated with both having strong distinct written traditions, especially the later (as Ruthenian was dominant official language in Grand Duchy till early 1500s). So, at the time Ukrainian lands were incorporates into Muscovite state in 1654 the cores of modern Russian and ukrainian languages were already separated (while the process of seperetion of Ukrainian and Belarusian languages from common Ruthenian was not yet finished). Of course in the times of formation of first literature standards in 18th-19th centuries both languages strongly influenced one another, but they already existed as different oral and writing traditions and had obtained their key distinctive features. So, when in 19th century the Emperial government led the policy of replacement of "Petit russian supradialect" with "Greater russian supradialect", both were already far from being one language and thus, in fact, it was a russification policy

@@MrDesertfox1000 границы того времени не были такими строгими как сейчас и люди не были изолированы настолько что бы прекратился языковой обмен. К тому же ты говоришь о 19 веке, а присоединение произошло в 17 веке. Причем автор описал так как будто русификация началась сразу. Письменная традиция тогда не сильно отличалась. Алфавит Тараса Шевченко (19 век) отличается от русского алфавита того времени меньше чем современный русской от старого. Что там говорить о временах 200 летней давности. В 19 веке империя конечно стала заинтересованна в приведении в норму языка на всей территории, но очевидно результат провалился, так как нет никакой возможности заставить неграмотных крестьян за 1000 километров от столицы начать говорить на стандартном диалекте. И показывать карту Крыма с русским населением заявляя что они стали говорить по русски после русификации это вообще какой то нонсенс, его сразу заселяли русские после захвата у Крымского Ханства.

@@MrDesertfox1000 I don't think you can base different writing styles as a significant way to stabilish different languages, for example Croatian and Serbian are written in a very different manner from each other with both having been influenced by very different countries (Serbian the Byzantines and Crotian the Austrians) but it's still considered one language, that eveey linguist agrees on, plus the dialact continum still exists, Southern Russian dialects are still very close to Ukrainian, and the Ukrainian standard language was made in Austrian Galicia, the most polonized area of Ukraine and were a truly distinct Ukrainian identity was born, standard Ukrainian did not show how the majority of Ukrainian spoke at the time, only those of Western Ukraine, and that's also the reason why it was banned in the Russian Empire, its reasoning was that it was a foreign language that is trying to "destroy Russian unity" anyway, the dialect continum with Russian was always strong so there's is a fair claim that at least spoken was not different than enough from the other Eastern Slavic languages of the time.

@@jackyex By different writing tradition I meant not the alphabet used (in fact it was symilar for Ruthenian and Muscovite written documents) but general lexics, grammar, and orthographic ways to transmit oral pronunciation into written form. So, saying about these traditions: Northeastern (Novgorod-Muscovy) tradition due to unstable statehood till unification of principalities under Moscow rule under Vasily III, and lack of feudal educational insitutions was mostly preserved and developed in monasteries, thus based on Churchslavonic - "orthodox latin". As such written tradition strongly affected the formation of literature language, you can observe very strong resemblance between Russian and Bulgarian (the later is base for Churchslavonic) which other East Slavonic languages do not have. Southwestern (Ruthenian) written tradition apart from religious institutions, developed within a large text corps of Grand Duchy's bureaucracy and within numerous (as for late medieval times of course) educational institutions of Lithuania-Ruthenian aristocracy. Such tradition, as less dependent on religious texts tended to resemble Churchslavonic much less, mostly being based on spoken language of Western Rus just using alphabet brought with Churchslavonic As for your statement that modern literature Ukrainian is based on Galician dialect of it - this statement really shows that you're too much far away from knowing Ukrainian. As not only person interested in linguistic history, but also Ukrainian native speaker, I can more than sure say you that Galician dialect is among the most specific and different from literature standard due to enormous amount of lexics not typical for literature standard (a lot of polonised and germanised words) and even some grammatical specifics different from standard Ukrainian - like separable "-sia" (or "-self" in English) suffix in reversive verb forms, or intensive use of "ye" ("to be") auxiliary verb (both cases typical for standard Polish, but not standard Ukrainian). Most of other dialects (including ALL dialects of Northern and Southeastern supradialect) of Ukrainian resemble standard Ukrainian much better than Galician dialect. Language studies say that baseline dialect for Standard Ukrainian is Poltava dialect - area where southeastern Ukrainian supradialect met southwestern Ukrainian supradialect (mostly in its Podolian, not Galician dialect form) resulting from migrations in times of harsh civil wars of Cossack Hetmanate state in late XVII century. As a native speaker I'd also add that apart from Poltava dialect, literature language is also very symilar to language preserved in Fastiv-Bila Tserkva-Uman axis (most probably due to the same mix of Podolian and Mid-Dnieperian dialects) - the area which is also very far away from Galice and polonisation, and mostly associated as "Kyiv provncial areas"

Exactly! Plus Crimea is Russian because it became part of the Russian Empire after the Ottomans gave up the Crimean Khanate. There weren't even Cossacks there. And Cossacks weren't UA either, they were basically the old Rus people, frozen in time and separated from the Rus motherland that reconstituted around Moscow. By the time they reunited any echivalent of UA would mostly be constituted from everything west of the Dnieper. Everything East and South of it was added by the Soviets.

insane that russians trolls are even commenting below videos like this :P

@@bohomazdesign725 read definition of the word "troll"

@@bohomazdesign725 He's not wrong though. The people there want to be Russian, they speak Russian, it has historically bring a Russian province more so than a Ukrainian one.

@@PsilentMusicUK u may wanna check out how it happend that more russians live their than ukrainians or crimean tatars. Russians like to skip the genocide part of crimeas history ;)

@@bohomazdesign725 How it happened is irrelevant. The people who live there now did not commit genocide, and they desire to be a part of Russia. It's a very dangerous game when people start arguing that X group who died centuries ago should retake a land over Y group who currently exist there. It's that sort of horseshit that has kept the Arab-Israeli conflict burning for the past century.

Yes and? There was no Estonian, India or Algerian nation state until the 1900s either. What’s your point?

@@francogiobbimontesanti3826 So according to you India only existed from the 1900s? Please tell Indians that. My point being that had it not have been for the USSR dominated by Moscow, Ukraine would not have existed anyway. Russian Communists granted it statehood and at the fall of USSR in 1991 it was given independence. Had there been no USSR the region would still be known as 'The Ukraine'. When will indigenous Americans in the US be given an independent state? Oh, I forgot they were annihilated by the likes of General Custer and Andrew Jackson.

@@shelaco1321 Yes the nation state of India only existed after 1949. Never before, no Indian would be triggered by that fact since simply it’s true. Had their been no USSR their would be no Ukraine? That’s a bit of a stretch separatists movements already existed in Ukraine since the 19th century. How does native Americans bring exterminated justify the same treatment to Ukraine? The fuck you going on about?

@@shelaco1321BS Russian propaganda

@@jordandino417 Is that all you've got? So old, so sad. !