Why didn't Jamaica join Canada? (Short Animated Documentary)

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Jamaica (and much of the Caribbean) were offered numerous chances to join Canada. As you'll know, none of them did. So why not? Why did Jamaica turn down the opportunity to be a Canadian Province? It's because they were sick of other people telling them what to do.
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Комментарии : 4 тыс.

@notvonbayern9202 Год назад

As a Canadian, it always disappoints me to hear about our lack of Caribbean empire. Why must we be cursed to this frozen hell?

@newsaxonyproductions7871 Год назад

Honestly though. It would make such a nice vacation destination lol

@god-0f-war Год назад

Should have stayed in Europe then

@andrewklang809 Год назад

Look on the bright side: it's rapidly becoming a MELTING hell.

@eodyn7 Год назад

@@god-0f-war Then who would be in North America to civilize the Natives?

@newsaxonyproductions7871 Год назад

@@god-0f-war Bro Europe isn't that much warmer lol. Sure the southern countries often are, but there's a lot of variation, and the median temp is close to Canada's iIrc

@averagecanadian3525 Год назад

As a Canadian having Caribbean territories would’ve been awesome but just imagine the the extra islands we’ll have to colour on our social studies homework.

@connecticutyankee9706 Год назад

Not to mention the islands would be too small to colour in neatly.

@30secondsflat Год назад

Literally was thinking the same thing

@decordova. Год назад

just mark the paper with a colour dot and you are done.

@ShengYu1995 Год назад

no thanks, we dont need anymore blacks

@biggorilla1999 Год назад

Nunavut was always a pain in the ass

@daniels7907 Год назад

The sheer revenue from Canadian snow birds heading to the islands every winter would have been *HUGE!*

@xxxBradTxxx Год назад

Instead of living in Yuma or Mesa, AZ they would skip us an go the Caribbean. I like it! I live in Mesa and during the winter a bunch of Alberta and BC license plates appear and drive really slowly.

@es0x Год назад

@@xxxBradTxxx I read this comment as an albertan driving to the airport to fly to Phoenix AZ lmao

@xxxBradTxxx Год назад

@@es0x It's okay to speed on the freeways here, just don't do 15 mph over unless everyone else is doing it. Also the 24 is now connected to Queen Creek at Single Butte and at Ironwood. So if you want to go to the Olive Mill it's a lot quicker now.

@CerealKiIIer Год назад

And the money would stay in the country. Win-win for all.

@tyrellcapers2224 Год назад

Let's be honest, it's more likely that the afro-carribeans would have just had their homes gentrified by white Canadians and forced off the islands are into marginalized communities. So I'm not sure if they were wrong to refuse unification 😅

@elitegamer7414 Год назад

I'm a born Jamaican who moved to Canada 3 months ago. This was never taught in Jamaican schools so I'm glad I have this new perspective on our history.

@Sixth_donkey Год назад

Same for me and I was born in Canada lol

@CanadianMonarchist Год назад

I hope you’re enjoying my country. In which province are you? I’m in PEI.

@elitegamer7414 Год назад

@@CanadianMonarchist I live in Toronto, Ontario, and yes I'm enjoying your country. The winters do suck though.😂

@CanadianMonarchist Год назад

@@elitegamer7414 I won’t argue with there. Be sure to come visit PEI sometime; I think August is the nicest time of year to visit.

@waynejohnson1786 Год назад

@@elitegamer7414 I love Jamaicans, welcome to Canada. Too bad you guys tend to move to Toronto though, there’s much better areas 😂

@REEEPROGRAM Год назад

Canada owning the Caribbean is almost like Denmark owning Greenland... But everything is the opposite

@ReuvenGoldstein1 Год назад

Or Denmark owning the Caribbean which they did

@juantamayo5295 Год назад

@@ReuvenGoldstein1 they owned just a couple islands

@REEEPROGRAM Год назад

@@ReuvenGoldstein1 i searched it up and didn't know the used to own some island in the carrabean, Thank you

@someguyfromfinlandtj125 Год назад

@@REEEPROGRAM US Virgin islands used to be the Danish Virgin islands.

@millevenon5853 Год назад

@@ReuvenGoldstein1 Denmark must pay reparations

@davidsalmon3469 Год назад

As a Jamaican, this aspect of our history was not taught in schools even when discussing the topic of the West Indies Federation. This is really enlightening to see.

@JJMcCullough Год назад

This was never a serious or mainstream "proposal" so that's why it's not taught.

@sjsound506 Год назад

@Sebastien Friolet *would've** not of.

@danielmorton1606 Год назад

@@JJMcCullough That makes a lot more sense than people finding the idea not worth discussing despite speculation being fun. Glad to see you pop up on a canadian history video.

@anari234 Год назад

Nor, was it taught in Canadian schools. We're only aware of the Turks and Caicos saga.

@patrickfindlator9802 Год назад

Breaking up the federation was the dumbest thing Jamaica ever did, coming from a Jamaican

@mattt9278 Год назад

I remember my parents talking about this. They were all for the islands joining Canada, they thought it would be great to have a tropical region that we didn't need a passport to get to or to exchange our currency. All our snowbirds could remain in Canada and enjoy those benefits while boosting the local and federal economy. Shame it never happened.

@JB-yb4wn 2 месяца назад

I thought Belize would have been the best one.

@richardroopnarine870 Год назад

As a Trinidadian we we're never taught in Caribbean history class that joining Canada was an option. We were taught that the Brits formed the Federation of the West Indies with its 11 Caribbean territories and after Jamaica departed for individual independence Trinidad followed and the Federation collapsed.

@ShengYu1995 Год назад

Mainly because it didnt happen... so why talk about "what ifs", if you're going to talk about all the "what if" scenarios, there would be thousands across history

@curtisthomas2670 Год назад

"10 minus 1 equals zero"

@Joe-- Год назад

@@ShengYu1995 Nah, it is not about "what if," but the point is talking/teaching about what happened: The history class failed to mention that what politicians actually said/discussed, which was the possibility of joining. It's important to know what and how people thought historically.

@adamd8118 Год назад

There are plenty of what if scenarios and political conversations or ideas that never happened in reference to wwi and wwii alone but it is still important to learn about how decisions were made or fell through

@steezy7460 Год назад

There's so much hidden history

@Moko_Bomoi Год назад

As a Jamaican, I had no knowledge of this ever being discussed or brought forward . History back then mostly focused on American and Russian (USSR) political influence and dominance in the island.

@desuordie4856 Год назад

Iirc Canada is never brought up. The west indian federation is 4th and 5th form

@tek1645 Год назад

I as a Canadian had absolutely no idea about any of this 😬

@OneMocha1015 Год назад

I thought it was Cuba instead of Russia, cause Proximity

@mikael557 Год назад

That's the beauty of the internet. Way more info available than just our own country's propaganda.

@alexrowe7063 Год назад

@@wordsmith451 Please don't

@Canada1994 Год назад

Canadian here. Keep in mind that The Turks and Caicos Islands and Canada STILL have the occasional rare talk of them becoming part of Canada. The last mention was a few years ago and decades ago Nova Scotia's provincial Parliament passed a bill allowing the Turks and Caicos to skip a few steps by becoming a part of the province.

@michaelthompson8665 Год назад

It almost happened in 1982 I think. Very close.

@Kaiserboo18719 Год назад

I think they would do it if it ever got desperate enough. But they have a lot of options before surrendering its independence. Countries are always hesitant in allow itself to be annexed by another country, even if it makes perfectly logical sense to do so. This is because once a country gives up its independence to become a part of another country, it is almost impossible to regain that independence in the future. Texas learned this the hard way. Despite having only been in the Union since 1846, Lincoln did not hesitate to denounce its secession a mere 15 years later as illegal. It did not matter if by 1865 Texas had spent 14 of its 29 years of existence as an entity separate from the United States. To Lincoln and the rest of the Union, Texas was as integral to the United States as the rest of the South, and as such would not hesitate to order its occupation (though that never came during the war as Texas and Florida were able to avoid having their capitals occupied until after Lee's surrender). To Lincoln and the North, the moment the Republic of Texas agreed to its annexation was the moment it lost any claim to independence.

@Canada1994 Год назад

@@Kaiserboo18719 that wasn't the point. The Union viewed Texas as a part of the Confederacy and viewed the Confederacy as a rebellion state. It's not like Texas would then leave the Confederacy if the South won

@Kaiserboo18719 Год назад

@@Canada1994 So you think that after Texas seceded from the Union but then refused to join the Confederacy that the United States would respect that decision to become an independent Republic of Texas once again?

@Canada1994 Год назад

@@Kaiserboo18719 maybe or maybe they would negotiate concessions to have them rejoin or they may join of their own free will with the threat of Mexico. They could be another slave state that stayed in the Union like the border states. But keep in mind if it wasn't for the need for balance in Washington between free and slave states the US would've admitted Texas into the Union as soon as they got their independence from Mexico. The Texas uprising was really like the California Bear Republic uprising. A local declaration of independence but with the eventual goal of joining the US.

@ItsJustAndrew89 Год назад

As a Jamaicac Canadian this was truly enlightening to see the history of where Jamaica stood in the world and what could've been.

@cassandralongmore3582 Год назад

Your not a true Jamaican. You're not even talking about the slaves that fought and died for our Freedom. Just Delete your Comment...Selfish

@miyuko8198 Год назад

I am a citizen of the Commonwealth of Dominica, I think if my country be a part of Canada at that time, the development of the Island of a Dominica will be unbelievable fantastic, unfortunately, it didn't happen.

@920mario Год назад

Ultra IMAX 4DX for sure and a Tim Hortons on every corner

@warrensteel9954 Год назад

Greetings from Canada! I spent a winter in Roseau in the early 90s. Loved Trafalgar falls and the Botanical Gardens. Eating fresh mangoes and coconuts where you just can't get the same level of flavor here. Then again, the imported US apples in the market were absolutely terrible, so I feel sorry for anyone who grew up there thinking that's what they are supposed to taste like.

@J.i.M.9604 Год назад

As a Jamaican, having access to Canada's Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve would have been nice.

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Год назад

We'll share.😀

@J.i.M.9604 Год назад

@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus thank you

@dylanconnolly9942 Год назад

Then you have to give your children sex charges though

@marks.3303 Год назад

Do Jamaicans eat a lot of pancakes?

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Год назад

@@J.i.M.9604 Just start charging a "Syrup Levy" on Canadian tourists. One bottle required at point of entry.

@Where_is_Waldo Год назад

As a Canadian citizen born in Belize in 1988 to a Canadian mother with older siblings born in British Honduras, this was even more interesting than I expected.

@josm1481 Год назад

It slightly glosses over Belize fraught relationship with Guatemala but he's only got 4 minutes.

@ArcMedicalResearch Год назад

its like this video was made for you

@90skidcultist Год назад

You old, dude!

@AGamerthatregretsalot Год назад

As a Guatemalan that knows English i think you meant *NorthEastern Guatemala* Belize never was real.

@Where_is_Waldo Год назад

@@AGamerthatregretsalot Chalk that one up to british colonialism I guess, I never learned the history of the region. To be fair, I grew up in Canada and my parents are old school mennonites or, in other words, minimally schooled mennonites. My mom grew up in Canada but her parents wouldn't let her go past grade 6 because she's a girl and we don't really learn about that here. My dad grew up in a Mexican mennonite colony and they went up to grade four for boys. I don't know if the girls were even allowed in school there. Mexican mennonites didn't really value education beyond learning to read and write and memorizing mathematical tables. Thanks for the history lesson, I'd be interested to hear more about it.

@FucklesTheDog Год назад

Been to most of these Caribbean countries and I'd think the one big loss for the locals is a bigger quality of life picture. I think if they joined and had a larger economical benefactor the lives of locals with services could have improved greatly, and we would see less shanty towns on the islands. Some of the nicest people I've met, they would fit right in.

@chrisper7527 Год назад

And what makes those shanty towns any better than the homeless addicts all over Canada and the United States? The majority of those shanty town residents are not drug addicted with no hope: but, they are poor people born in their circumstances with a lot of talent and hope of progress. Don’t be a biased ass.😠

@tehjamerz Год назад

Joined? Nothing stopping them from making one of their own... why must they attach themselves to an existing success?

@solaris5922 Год назад

Because it’s such a small island under ruling of another

@bhojjadamotabanda Год назад

@@tehjamerz When Comoros gained independence from France, one island, Mayotte, voted to remain with France. It became an integral part of France. Soon, Comoros was way behind Mayotte in living standard and income, despite being in the same geographical location, same people living there. Now, illegal immigration from Comoros to Mayotte is one the biggest political issues in Mayotte, who now vote Marine Le Pen's party due to its anti illegal immigration stance. There is so much illegal immigration in Mayotte that 70% of the babies born in Mayotte are born to illegal immigrants from Comoros. Being attached to a larger prosperous nation is much more beneficial for the economy as one of the important purposes of taxation is to move wealth from high income to low income (whether its people or regions). Even though Mayotte is a drain on France economically, Mayotte in itself enjoys a much prosperous living standard due to being part of France. In any country, most economic activity is generated in a few large cities, but other areas of the country get developed too. France in return gets strategic territory in the Indian ocean.

@AD-df5tm Год назад

@@tehjamerz yeah, why can't they just build their small island nation with limited natural resources into one of the 7 biggest economies on the planet? It so easy!

@merrychristmasreaper Год назад

So this was fascinating especially cause as a Jamaican my personal experience has been lots of friends and family just traveling/immigrating to Canada before coming back after having made their way in the world.

@CitrusyGuy Год назад

Lol I genuinely went: wha?

@kraevorn7483 Год назад

Same here

@alexcrazy1492 Год назад

Heh

@trueRocc Год назад

ditto

@charmainecastillo5263 Год назад

As a Belizean I had no idea that we wanted to join Canada. It was never taught in our schools.

@stephmod7434 Год назад

What if you did?

@MasterMalrubius Год назад

You have schools?

@irenaveksler1935 Год назад

@@MasterMalrubius lmao

@someguyfromfinlandtj125 Год назад

@@MasterMalrubius lol

@bored_juan5010 Год назад

@@MasterMalrubius yes, are they good, not that much

@willo7734 Год назад

It always amazes me how much info this channel packs into a few minutes.

@johnalbent Год назад

Why didn't Jamaica join Canada? This channel asks questions that nobody, NOBODY, ask! It's fantastic and we love you for it. I saw someone say something like that on "How did the Orthodox Church view the Reformation?"

@Michaelonyoutub Год назад

With the number of Canadians who head south every winter, it would make a lot of sense for Canada to try to own some tropical territory in order to try to mitigate that outflow of cash. If Canada had a Caribbean island then it likely would attract a lot of the Canadians that already head south ever year since Canadian travelers wouldn't have to worry about healthcare costs if they get hurt or sick, they wont need a passport, they would use Canadian dollars which would make the destination resilient to changes in currency values, and they can use their normal phone plan without worrying about roaming fees. There would also be benefits to the island nation as it would likely receive a lot of initial investment to bring in up to Canadian standards in terms of healthcare and infrastructure, and then long term also would see a boost in their tourism industry.

@gungan5822 Год назад

Pssssssst. Canadian provinces all have separate health care systems, and won't automatically cover people from other provinces. If you're traveling inter-provincially within Canada, you should still be getting traveller's health insurance like you would if you were traveling internationally, because you are not guaranteed "free" health care outside your home province. If you're lucky, your home province will repay the other province for your costs, but they might not.

@alexrowe7063 Год назад

Yup, many Jamaican's migrate to Canada for better job opportunities any way so it would be a match made in heaven especially if we got some guaranteed support and investment.

@BigMikeMcBastard Год назад

@@gungan5822 This is incorrect. They do cover people from other provinces. It's one of the stipulations of the Canada Health Act of 1983 -- portability. If you're from outside Ontario, you can just walk in and get treated in Ontario even if you don't have an Ontario Health Card/aren't a part of OHIP. Every province/territory in Canada will accept the health card/insurance of every other province/territory.

@marks.3303 Год назад

@@BigMikeMcBastard When I was a student in Montreal I continued to use my OHIP card until I became a permanent resident of Quebec.

@gungan5822 Год назад

@@BigMikeMcBastard Then explain why people have been turned down.

@largezo7567 Год назад

The answers to questions I've never even thought about, well done!

@newsaxonyproductions7871 Год назад

History Matters in a nutshell

@rollinthunder8671 Год назад

As a member of both these nations I was taught this by my father I'm glad Jamaica kept their independence

@chrisbell6490 Год назад

Ya they’ve really done well for themselves lol

@rollinthunder8671 Год назад

@@chrisbell6490 lol ok canada economy is dying Enjoy paying 800k for a townhouse That you will never pay of. The mass influx of immigrants who are also leaving because Canada just taxes you and leave leaves little room for up word mobility. And now there is legal assistance in suicide. But you want to throw shade at Jamaica? Lol your definitely deserve to be the frozen hell that is Canada in the 21st century 🤡

@user-kg2lp8jz2r Год назад

@@chrisbell6490 they are growing now :D

@mawbeautiful881 Год назад

@@chrisbell6490 I think Jamaica thought, What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul (and have his fantastic independent culture watered down to nothing)

@islandboi2130 Год назад

@@chrisbell6490 We much rather be a poor independent country than to be a white man’s colony.

@Lucian6ix Год назад

Born in Saint Lucia 🇱🇨 and moved to Canada 🇨🇦. I am very well aware of this history. Although i like the idea of never being part of Canada, what upsets me is those power hungry politicians didn't want to stay united as the Federation of the West Indies only to get Individual islands independent. Alot of us Caribbean people feel connected to each other but only Separated by water. The Federation would of had a big impact on the region if it was alive today.

@c.c8752 Год назад

🇱🇨 always nice to see another Saint Lucian

@antoninuslarpus7107 Год назад

As a Jamaican, I had no idea that there was a possibility that we would be a province of Canada. Reality is really stranger than fiction. Edit: My God, the Internet's denizens will find any reason to fight each other on some shitty website for no fucking reason.

@millevenon5853 Год назад

Jamaica would be better off run by more competent administration in Canada

@raviolilad9232 Год назад

as a canadian i can agree

@davidpeterson5647 Год назад

The Mary Jane would be EPIC!

@stampedmetalsword8099 Год назад

@@millevenon5853 I don't think so.

@eedwardgrey2 Год назад

Cool Runnings would be quite different

@theravingtimes9582 Год назад

Imagine a reality where you could technically drive across the border of Honduras or Guatemala to a Canadian province? It sounds more outlandish then Canada annexing the Turk and Caicos Island or Jamaica.

@pocketmarcy6990 Год назад

Belize would be like Canada’s Alaska

@pocketmarcy6990 Год назад

Belize would be like Canada’s Alaska

@ahmeder6370 Год назад

It kind of exists in the form of Brazil and France.

@KitchenSinkSoup Год назад

@@pocketmarcy6990 Or Canada would be Belize's Alaska.

@catmonarchist8920 Год назад

Loads of people would be claiming asylum in Honduras... Whack.

@BigHeadClan Год назад

Huh as a Canadian I had no idea and don’t recall this ever being covered in school. Would have been pretty cool to have some tropical provinces as part of Canada. Although logistically I can see why something like this wouldn’t happen.

@ShengYu1995 Год назад

Mainly because it didnt happen... so why talk about "what ifs", if you're going to talk about all the "what if" scenarios, there would be thousands across history

@kranmaster Год назад

Logistics? We have people living on Ellesmere Island nearly 1200 km north of the Arctic Circle.

@osheridan Год назад

@@ShengYu1995 It's fun and helps us learn :)

@cmatrix4761 Год назад

I like these videos; it's not overly idiosyncratic, but still interesting. And brief, but concise.

@deadw8gaming365 Год назад

I love how much effort is put into the newspapers, even though many people will skip them

@tfdbudtz Год назад

Every document brought up on screen by History Matters is worth reading :)

@Jay_Johnson Год назад

The What are your thoughts on the 'insert position here''s reforms. I think they will be *remarkably* successful and bring the Soviets back into parity with the Americans in the cold war.

@CanImperator Год назад

Though it did spell "Ottawa" wrong

@CarterJ9 Год назад

I only noticed because another comment mentioned the error of calling the U.S. flag "stars and bars," and now I feel shamed that I would have ignored it otherwise. I also want to go back through every other HM video--for one, just because, but for two, to find other hidden gems I may have overlooked.

@finnishyank7413 Год назад

I always pause it and read them, they crack me up to no end

@Dalynx09 Год назад

Imagine If the caribbean islands were to have actually joined Canada, would be such a strange world, a place known for snow and being large, owning some Caribbean island know for the heat and being small, definetely a strange world

@paranoidrodent Год назад

Given how much Canadians love to vacation in the Caribbean (Cuba, Dominican, Mexico and to a lesser degree Jamaica are very popular with Canadians) and how convenient it would be to travel there without a passport, travel insurance and currency exchange... well, that Caribbean location would have a built-in tourist population. I believe Nova Scotia has already legislated that they are willing to accept the Turks and Caicos as part of their province (to simplify the constitutional issues and help them get their infrastructure up to Canadian standards) should they ever join Canada. Most polls have for decades shown that Canadians like the idea of having a Caribbean island join the country as a new province, territory or as part of an Atlantic province (probably NS). It's just that it's not a big priority for anyone.

@NoNameAtAll2 Год назад

canadian hawaii

@grondhero Год назад

Canada already is one of the largest countries with a relatively small population for its size.

@Blazedreptile Год назад

Tbf it's not that much wierder than britain given that it just rains here

@superm530 Год назад

So,USA...

@margaretjones4682 Год назад

Wow! Thank you for this video. I love learning new information that was completely unbeknownst to me.

@hughmungus1767 Год назад

I am a lifelong Canadian and I remember talk about the Turks and Caicos Islands joining us back in the 70s. It's a long time ago now so my memory may be inaccurate on some of the details but I remember a lot of enthusiasm for the idea initially at the thought of having a place in the tropics where Canadians could go to get some respite from the winters. If I recall correctly though, we gradually learned that the Turks and Caicos Islands were not keen on having Canadians buying land there and living there in large numbers. I suppose they wanted the trading advantages but didn't want to have to deal with a lot of (former) foreigners buying their land, changing their culture, etc.

@ericpowell4350 Год назад

Bingo!

@terrencemcginnis332 Год назад

Not to dissimilar to Prince Edward Island which iirc has real estate ownership restrictions as well.

@richardthomas5362 Год назад

Yeah, many of us Americans would prefer NOT to have millions of people coming to our country changing our culture either. However, our rich elites need the slave labor so our borders are open. I suspect much the same would happen in Turks and Caicos, except the natives would be priced off of their land.

@TheBlaqOrder Год назад

Simple don't sell

@michaelverbakel7632 Год назад

Yes I remember the talks about the Turks & Caicos thinking about joining and becoming a part of Canada but I always wondered why, but I never, ever heard any stories ever about Jamaica trying to become a part of Canada. If you look at the Turks & Caicos on the map the islands are small and tiny and are right at the south tail end of the Bahama Islands and are indistinguishable from the other small islands. Why is Turks & Caicos still separate from the rest of the Bahamas even politically. Why didn't these small islands just become a part of the rest of the Bahamas.

@Huckleberry_Sid Год назад

Something overlooked in this video is that adding another province means facing the quagmire of the Constitution Act of 1982 and how Quebec has never formally approved it. On many levels it's easier to let that sleeping dog lie than it is to bring in the Turks and Caicos as another province, which would necessarily mean trying to get Quebec to sign off on the whole thing again since it has the potential to reignite long standing political issues.

@ironthunder7935 Год назад

If they became a part of a preexisting province they could get around that. (Nova Scotia has brought this up at some point.)

@asdasd-cq1pk Год назад

Giggity Constitution

@pimcramer2569 Год назад

Sooo... Why doesnt Quebec just approve it then?

@ironthunder7935 Год назад

@@pimcramer2569 The threat of separating from Canada is leverage for Québec. Signing the constitution act would take a lot of sting out of the threat.

@JeansWithPockets541 Год назад

@@pimcramer2569 Centuries of being oppressed by a combination of the Roman Catholic Church and the British Crown. Both of those have serious cultural influence in the Rest Of Canada, which is known as the ROC (not to be confused with the Republic of China lmao). Also, Quebec has been the site of the Anglophone-dominated government's suppression of civil dissidence. Also also, there's been a large social movement for secession from the ROC which nearly succeeded a couple times (thanks Charles de Gaulle). This is what it boils down to, but it's an oversimplification. Yeah, Canada's a fucked up place that has no right to exist.

@TheREALAvengerr Год назад

Turks and Caicos debate still pops up sometimes. I think most recently the idea was to include it as part of the province of Nova Scotia. But just as randomly as it pops up it fades away again, because people are more concerned (justifiably) about other issues within Canada

@MichaelDavis-mk4me Год назад

Yeah right, because the government can only do one at a time. Normally, this would be sarcasm, but Justin Trudeau is Prime Minister.

@thecheesecakeman Год назад

@@MichaelDavis-mk4me I don't think its even been brought up while Trudeau has been PM. It did come up in the early 2000's under Harper. One of his cabinet minister's brought it up again and then it went away as quickly as he brought it up. I mean, if Turk and Caicos are for it, not sure why we aren't. As others have said, it would stop the flow of money to the USA, Mexico and other island countries if Canadians could just vacation in their own tropical province. Imagine flying, no passport needed and using our money.

@TheWoollyFrog Год назад

@@thecheesecakeman Why not? Because (under the NS idea) the locals would have no say over how tourism is regulated, no say in how taxes and budgets are handled, no say over when and how development occurs in a part of the country that would never be prioritised, no affordable transportation to the mainland, etc. The list goes on. but most importantly for you, all that built up resentment T&C locals would have towards the federal and provincial governments would be taken out on mainland tourists.

@fernandomaiasilvadias8199 Год назад

History Matters always answering burning questions I never had or thought about. Great!

@huebdoo Год назад

As a Canadian, this was what we would have dreamed of, having a place in the sun during long winters that was part of us. It never made sense that we didn't combine, I would even up the ante and get Scotland to join us too ...

@veeeks2938 Год назад

That would be interesting for sure. As a Scot I'd love to visit many places in Canada (actually have long lost relatives in BC who used to send my granny copies of Beautiful British Columbia magazine)

@Deira854 Год назад

Yeah America got Hawai and ao many islands, Canada nothing but cold

@michaelrizka Год назад

Had they joined Canada, they would have won the most gold medal in winter Olympics, especially in bobsled

@shinsenshogun900 Год назад

The master of two seasonal sports games

@AgentDanielCross Год назад

And weed would have been completely legal by now

@andrewklang809 Год назад

@@AgentDanielCross I can picture the new Jamaicanadian flag now.

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Год назад

@@AgentDanielCross Weed is legal in Canada. Has been for a while. Not in Jamaica strangely.

@AgentDanielCross Год назад

@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus exactly what i mean.

@harveya1a952 Год назад

Jamaica chose to be under the possession of James Bisonette instead

@comrade.bhartiye_87 Год назад

Hispaniola chose the Same!

@eatingmage603 Год назад

Stop with the James Bisonette references, Jamaican me crazy!

@newsaxonyproductions7871 Год назад

Fr tho, Bissonette prolly has enough cash to buy the whole country lol

@andrewklang809 Год назад

For a second, I thought you were gonna say James Bond.

@mikhhailml Год назад

Plot Twist: James Bisonette makes money using his trustworthy invention: Kelly Moneymaker

@sheltv100 Год назад

As a Jamaican-Canadian, all I can say is thanks to British Imperialism, the history connects us all. I still wish that all or perhaps some of the Caribbean Islands were taken over as Canadian territories, but we still have our chance to take Cayman, Monserat, and Turks and Caicous.

@jeanbethencourt1506 Год назад

Feel bad for all the indigenous Jamaicans the British anhiliated in order to make room for your ancestors, though.

@NativeNomads10 9 месяцев назад

@@jeanbethencourt1506 No black Jamaican would thank British for atrocities created against our ancestors. Jamaica doesn't only have black people, and the native Jamaican blood runs through black Jamaicans. They were bred out, not completely annihilated. How do you think Jerk was created and passed down in Jamaica?

@MetalBansheeX 7 месяцев назад

This is the craziest comment I've ever read

@alilabeebalkoka Год назад

I love ❤️ that last clip!!! Good going!!! Timing is everything and Canada missed out on having tropical 🥒🍹🦈🐬🐠🐟🐙 provinces!!! It would be interesting to have taken place and how Canada would have managed this relationship with far away islands 🏝️🏖️.

@mccabber24 Год назад

As a Canadian, I had no idea this was even a question put forward

@guillaumegiroux9425 Год назад

My grandma did told me about the Turks and Caicos one tbh

@Laflamme78 Год назад

@@guillaumegiroux9425 It's actually something that gets drug out every few years, a politician mentions it, the news goes a little overboard with it and then we all forget about it again.

@guillaumegiroux9425 Год назад

@@Laflamme78 I actually do want it, I want to be able to rent a place in the sun while I work from home and, heck, even use a bit of my constitutional rights to send my kid to a french-language school :P

@Vin_solo Год назад

As a Canadian, I had no idea there was a possibility of Jamaica joining Canada

@realtalk6195 Год назад

Because there wasn't. Turks & Caicos and Belize are the only countries that actually had any possibility. The others weren't even a consideration by anyone.

@recodon577 Год назад

@@realtalk6195 didn't u watch the video?? Jamaica and the other islands rejected the offer and chose to become independent from Britain. It's the other way around, it was jamaica and the other islands that chose not to become apart of canada

@realtalk6195 Год назад

@@recodon577 The islands didn't *just* reject it on their own. Canada didn't want them either. In the case of T&C there was actually some Canadian politicians calling for it. And in the case of Belize, it was politicians in Belize calling for it. The other islands were never a serious consideration.

@northlander4370 Год назад

we couldnt defend them as we cant defend ourselves , jesus christ, North Korea could invade us and we would have to surrender !

@sheltv100 Год назад

It could have been, but Prime Minister Borden said no.

@Cronkadoodledoo Год назад

Thanks a lot Robert Borden - we’re freezing our assess off up here because of you!

@sheltv100 Год назад

We should tell the Bank of Canada to take him off the $100 bill and put on Frederick Banting.

@RichIrving Год назад

We have huge ties to Jamaica here in Canada. I'm glad that we didn't take control of Jamaica, we treated the indigenous people here bad enough.

@briangasser973 Год назад

Canadian Caribbean islands would be interesting. I would imagine it would have economically helped those nations with passport free tourists, access to Canadian universities, and a large (relatively weathly) retirement population of Canadians heading to the islands instead of Florida. Belize would be what Panama/Costa Rica is turning itself into welcome expats.

@anasevi9456 Год назад

No offence, but it's one of those things I feel one way or another the USA would ruin. Much like Russia; they tend to get 'upset' when they feel surrounded, whether the threat is valid or not.

@MajorMlgNoob Год назад

@@anasevi9456 the US wouldn't care lol Canada is friendly and not a threat in the slightest

@FF-ct5dr Год назад

Interesting, yes... But solely for the Caribbean population who would essentially receive huge subsidies to upgrade their infrastructures, and have access to ours. The benefits I receive in exchange for an astronomical average tax rate are already piss poor, so financing some random ass country thousands of miles away would be nothing but a huge "fuck you".

@MrCrazyeyes07 Год назад

@@FF-ct5dr Canada and the Caribbean are still in the same hemisphere 🥴

@FF-ct5dr Год назад

@@MrCrazyeyes07 Fair point that but that doesn't invalidate much, does it?

@PhilipJackson03 Год назад

As a Canadian this bit of history always interested me. There are actually still some in both Turks and Caicos and Canada who want to see it added as the 11th province or fourth territory.

@nukesploder Год назад

LETS TAKE IT

@CanadaBeef Год назад

It will never happen. Canada prides itself on democracy and Turks and Caicos has been, well, less than democratic recently. I don't think it would happen anytime soon

@ginch8300 Год назад

@@CanadaBeef Nonsense, we don't pride ourselves on democracy lol.

@Valencetheshireman927 Год назад

The islands already have full autonomy as an overseas territory so there’s no point in altering which country they are tied to

@stza16 Год назад

@@CanadaBeef Lmao Canada doesn’t pride itself in democracy at all.

@dylangriffieth5487 Год назад

Love what this guy is doing he's taking large section of history and condensing it down to just a few minutes. Which makes it so its not boring and making learning history kind of fun and interesting.

@jaybrown4444 Год назад

Amazing info!! I am Jamaican living in Canada and my children are born Canadian. This is insightful information that I can teach them. Thank you because they don't teach this in Canadian schools!

@ItisMoody Год назад

"Failed to have its own Hawaii" was what was on my mind throughout the entire video, haha! Cheers from Toronto 🍁

@AD-df5tm Год назад

Well, hopefully without all the terrible things that happened to native Hawaiians (but probably not ☹️.)

@kbro7997 Год назад

As a Trinidadian, I wanna say thank you so much for making this fantastic video, and highlighting the history of our beautiful region even more!

@mhah1035 Год назад

What about the other one?

@xy5844 Год назад

i never noticed how close trinidad y tobago was to brazil.

@kbro7997 Год назад

@@xy5844 oh yeah! Pretty close indeed :) Actually, planes from Brazil often fly over Trinidad on their way to Orlando.

@jaybajan Год назад

@@xy5844 its even close to venezuela u can see venezuela from trinidad on clear days

@imablazeuonfiya 11 месяцев назад

this video doesn't talk about trinidad.

@nik65stgt60 Год назад

Fascinating! Thanks!

@FlyingGSports Год назад

Great work as always, can I request a video? Slightly obscure but nonetheless interesting in terms of Habsburg power in Europe, a video on how the Duke of Bavaria became the first non-Habsburg HRE for 300 years in 1742?

@jouhanneus Год назад

"The point is guys, just be angry. All the time. Don’t even bother reading up about those dope Caribbean islands that we could get from Britain. Who needs sun and golden beaches when you have access to Nanavut." 😂 These newspaper articles you put in are absolute gems! They deserve more screentime🤓

@rileydavidson207 Год назад

Hell Nunavut didn't even exist yet and it's still a joke

@sudhanvakashyap297 Год назад

"They deserve more screentime🤓" 🤓 the whole point of such jokes is that it is for fans to pause and read

@spacecube8561 Год назад

*trade pact *WORST THING IN THE HISTORY OF, LIKE, EVER* Literally in 13 billion years'' 😂😂😂😂

@jouhanneus Год назад

@Mary Antonio Huh? I don’t get it😄 Are you Canadian? Do you long for warm beaches? 😄

@jouhanneus Год назад

@@sudhanvakashyap297 But lots probably don’t, and that’s a shame😬

@lif6737 Год назад

As a Canadian, I always thought Bermuda would make sense as part of Canada. It’s not so geographically removed as the rest of the Caribbean, so it’d be easier to administer as part of Canada. It’s also itself kind of removed from the Caribbean, so much so that it was historically part of the 13 Colonies, being administered as part of the Colony of Virginia, so it doesn’t make sense as part of any Caribbean nation. That said, it’s small population means it could only really exist as part of a larger state, hence why it’s still a British oversea territory.

@TheRandCrews Год назад

Bermuda also had a Canadian Navy detachment that started in WWII up to its closing in the end of the Cold War. Some Canadian and Newfoundland & Labrador units were brought into the defense of Bermuda while the British were stretched thin with forces.

@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 11 месяцев назад

I have only ever attended Virginia schools and didn't know this.

@ChristineCAlb1 Год назад

Did not know this. Fascinating!

@cecilaugust1839 Год назад

Wow I'm Belizean and I didn't know about this thank you man

@newsaxonyproductions7871 Год назад

Lmao I love History Matters "Why didn't Jamaica join Canada?" Consistently funny content from one of the best history RU-vid channels out there Edit: Once again, HM proves its quality in another video. This one was really interesting, teaching me a bunch about the British in the Western Hemisphere that I hadn't heard about before, which is great!

@Dracovenatrix Год назад

This is real

@Stilluetto Год назад

This reads straight from some bot template

@recognizesealand572 Год назад

Am real human person

@Dracovenatrix Год назад

@@Stilluetto yes

@Unknowngfyjoh Год назад

I think Jabzy has got him beat though. Recently anyway Ever since the Ten Minute History episodes stopped and it's just the short ones.

@2hedz77 Год назад

Jamaican + Canadian track and field...combined? Unstoppable.🇨🇦❤🇯🇲

@Pedant_Patrol Год назад

Jamaica by themselves are unstoppable. What are you on about?

@jeremykraenzlein5975 Год назад

Perhaps, but I wonder if any Jamaicans would manage to qualify for the Canadian bobsledding team.

@nukesploder Год назад

we both smoke weed!

@davidrenton Год назад

well seeing as GB is one of the most successful Oplympic nations, i.e 2nd just after the US but a disproportionate amount of meals, so better than the US considering. You would have been better off sticking the UK

@2hedz77 Год назад

@@davidrenton 🤣 hmm ... could that attitude be why they didn’t want to join the UK ???

@youremakingprogress144 11 месяцев назад

I enjoy these videos, and I appreciate the jokes in the newspapers.

@Pissoff56 Год назад

I’m glad my country chose to be independent

@BaffuBaffuGamma Год назад

As a Belizean I thank you for making this obscure bit of Caribbean history more well-known to the world, but to be honest I cringed every time you only said Honduras without adding 'British ' in front. It might seem like nit picking but realistically Honduras is a totally different country. Also, there's another potential video "Why was Belize the last mainland territory of the UK in the Western Hemisphere ?"

@cubinanticommunist Год назад

Belize would be like Canada's alaska

@Sicksasix Год назад

ayyy belize gang

@Quepasaaqui718 Год назад

BELIZE 🇧🇿 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

@Butt_Slayer Год назад

Cringed everytime? He said Honduras once, and calls it British Honduras all the other times.

@BaffuBaffuGamma Год назад

@horriblepancake True. But it's the little details that make the difference.

@Robbstark2024 Год назад

If it’s any consolation to my Canadian friends, you did host the first ever Jamaican bobsled team

@heatherjones6647 Год назад

As a Canadian, I weep every time this comes up. I'd be gone to Turks and Caicos Dec. 1 every year for 4 months! T & C could come up and go to uni and ski with the Australians in the Rockies or Laurentians. Best of both worlds for everyone.

@jasv49 Год назад

Britain wasn’t struggling with being broke, that excelled at it!

@hughjass1044 Год назад

What an opportunity missed for us Canadians... a Caribbean territory of our own; and one which wanted to join with us! We need to try again!

@stza16 Год назад

No thanks.

@locomotivesteam9334 Год назад

Nah only cold and suffering for you

@hughjass1044 Год назад

@@locomotivesteam9334 Well no, not exactly. Just lots and lots of winter vacation money NOT spent in Canada.

@locomotivesteam9334 Год назад

@@hughjass1044 Well ngl i really dont see why you guys would want Jamaica, i mean Jamaica is poor and corrupt and crime is rising there as well, when you think about it the cost don't outweigh the benefits, idk about the other carribean countries but i wouldn't own want to own Jamaica, It would cost Canada so much money to get it to up to standard.

@hughjass1044 Год назад

@@locomotivesteam9334 Oh, I agree completely about Jamaica. I'm talking about The Turks & Caicos.

@alexrowe7063 Год назад

I'm pretty sure Jamaicans wouldn't mind, many of us migrate to find work in Canada or America anyways so being able to streamline the process would've been lovely.

@manovrsb Год назад

The black population on the island would've been screwed . They would've been barred from many hotels ,businesses and unions and only exploited for cheap labour with little representation. This was still the 60's y'know.

@declannewton2556 Год назад

And here I thought Jamaicans had self respect.

@JL_Lux Год назад

Yeah why wouldn’t a completely separate independent nation not want to be a second class territory for Canadians to vacation at?

@MrAnonymousRandom Год назад

The problem is Canada has to deal with Jamaica's problems and spend the money to bring the island up to Canadian standards.

@manovrsb Год назад

@@MrAnonymousRandom you think white Canadian would've standby and watch as their government spend billions of tax revenue to improve a black country ?Whichever ministers who think that's a good idea would been canned.

@cca78758 Год назад

Nice inside humor in the newspaper graphic

@mauricerose3082 Год назад

"In 1974, a Private Members' Bill was introduced in the Federal Canadian Parliament to explore a Formal Association between Canada, and the Turks and Caicos." "On 5 August 1583, Humphrey Gilbert claimed Newfoundland as England's first Overseas Colony, under Royal Charter of Queen Elizabeth I, thus Officially Establishing a forerunner to the much later British Empire." "Newfoundland joined Canada at one minute before midnight, on March 31, 1949. Union with Canada has done little to reduce Newfoundlanders' Self-Image as a Distinctive Group. In 2003, 72% of Residents responding Identified first as Newfoundlanders, secondarily as Canadians."...up to Ontario...

@marsgal42 Год назад

I knew about the Turks and Caicos joining Canada - the idea comes up about once a generation. The politicians shake their heads, make anti-neo-colonial noises, and move on. Jamaica and Belize, on the other hand, were news to me. By Canadian standards the Turks and Caicos are tiny, smaller than Toronto. Our current smallest province (Prince Edward Island) is 15 times their size.

@Zraknul Год назад

Merging all of them into Canada would only be about 5 million people. About enough to make a good sized province.

@rileydavidson207 Год назад

@@Zraknul multi-island nations always struggle especially if they are culturally different. Hell look at the UK and they only have 2

@MichaelGGarry Год назад

@@rileydavidson207 2? There are over 6,000 islands in the British Isles.....

@jaidoni.vincent6773 Год назад

@@Zraknul no. I think it’s closer to 7 million. That’s like either the third or fourth largest in the country. Can’t remember. Still, keep in mind that’s about 20% of Canada’s existing population

@rileydavidson207 Год назад

@@MichaelGGarry I was referring to the British islands and how they could barely keep that together for the longest time

@sometakenuser5672 Год назад

Video Idea: How did Japan react to Germany’s Surrender in WW2? (Yes, I did already comment this but I really want to see this)

@cottontheeastercottontailr265 Год назад

Just search it up bro

@Ostomies Год назад

@@cottontheeastercottontailr265 Nah i would like to see a 3-4 minute animated video explaining that with James Bisonette jokes in the end

@eatingmage603 Год назад

They were probably like: “that sucks,” and went about their business.

@nvmtt1403 Год назад

two words: "well, crap".

@raptorfromthe6ix833 Год назад

They jailed the ambassador

@Emperor_Shao_Kahn Год назад

As a Canadian, WE DO NOT WANT YOU GO AWAY!!!! we give away enough money helping every 3rd world country but ourselves.

@mondaymurder23 Год назад

lol, Canada wouldn't be shit but dam tribes if it wasn't for the Brits. same with Jamaica did you forget the Island was one of the richest places in North America read up on history before you talk shit, we also had the first railroad in the Americas. we didn't need Canada if it wasn't for the US shipping guns down to fund their Ideals we would have been in a better place today but the big guy wanted each and every country in the America's to be dependent on them look at how they fucked up Cuba, it's the same thing they did with Jamaica

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Год назад

As a Canadian "A Hawaii of our own" sounds fantastic. Too bad it didn't come together. Perhaps I'll just go be a tourist in Turks and Caicos anyway.

@TensileStrength Год назад

Keep in mind, considering our stupid airport fees, it would be cheaper to just go to Hawaii even if Turks and Caicos were a province.

@blakeapexx1450 Год назад

Bro I’m vacationing in Turks right now. Sitting on my resort porch learning how this place could’ve been know as Canada

@danielcorrigan8805 Год назад

Instead we go to Cuba

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Год назад

@@blakeapexx1450 I'll probably wait for mid winter and head down. How are the travel restrictions/requirements?

@blakeapexx1450 Год назад

@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus they are pretty lax, if your over 18 you have to be vaccinated but other than that it’s pretty chill

@everyonesdisappointment7629 Год назад

I'm from Belize (Previously British Honduras) and I'm so happy hearing the name of my country and a bit about it come out of History Matter's mouth, and damn I didn't know any stuff about the Canada thing tbh. Also I think that the guy holding the sign in 2:14 is supposed to be George Price, aka Father of the Nation

@Elitist20 Год назад

It's amazing how accurate their portraits are with just a few lines. In the one on why New Zealand decided not to join the Australian federation, I recognised early prime ministers Edmund Barton, Alfred Deakin and George Reid, and the flags of New South Wales and Queensland.

@everyonesdisappointment7629 Год назад

@@Elitist20 Lol yea, tbh I recognized George Price because of the glasses, if it didn't have the glasses then I'd prob have a harder time recognizing it. The younger George Price wore glasses a lot but pics of when he is of old age doesn't show him with glasses too much

@sierrajamerson5637 Год назад

As far as Toronto is concerned, Jamaica is a part of Canada 😂 🇯🇲🇨🇦♥️

@JJMcCullough Год назад

There is a reason why everyone is being like "I never heard this before!!!" Because this is simply bad history. These ideas were never “put forward” in any serious way. You will see zero mention of any of these supposed “proposals” in any Canadian history book because they were extremely, extremely fringe ideas, even though this video makes it sound like they were some of the defining debates of 20th century Canadian politics. Too often I see fringe ideas being hugely exaggerated in the internet age because they make for wacky clickbait stories. You notice that when these grand stories about Canada wanting to annex the Caribbean are told it’s always said that “some” people were in favor of this or that. “Some” people can always be found supporting just about any random nonsense proposal you can imagine. There have been people who said Canada should join Europe, or buy Greenland, or create a one-world government, or just about any other goofy thing you can imagine. But we shouldn’t treat the obscure fantasies of eccentrics as being major historical events deserving of such reverential retellings.

@MsJondde Год назад

As much as I appreciate the content you put out, and as much of an exaggeration as the word "annex" is in your comment, it almost makes the whole comment redundant. You should watch the video again, as at no point was it claimed that these ideas came from Canada/Canadians. The video said that these suggestions were made by the British, but Canada declined. At no point did the video claim that these were actual proposals being discussed further than a mention in Canadian politics. You're blaming the video for being an exaggeration of a fringe idea, but that's not what it is. I think it is you who, for some reason, understood the video incorrectly. The video didn't make it seem like this was something close to happening.

@JJMcCullough Год назад

@@MsJondde The British didn't propose this either. No one of any significant standing in any part of the world proposed this. Making a video about this makes about as much sense as making a video about why Peru didn't join Canada.

@MsJondde Год назад

@@JJMcCullough @J.J. McCullough I do get your point about it being a very niche topic. I just now tried to research this a bit further, and it seems like you are right about it not being discussed by anyone significant/in a significant or a notable manner. (Referring to Jamaica joining Canada) However, your critique towards the video is still an exaggeration on its own, as no one ever claimed that Canada wanted to annex anyone. Also, it seems that there are territories such as the Bahamas whose officials actually met the Canadian PM of the time, to discuss a political union. I probably don't have to cite this, as I guess you already know this. There were also other territories that have actually considered political unions with Canada. This video focusing on Jamaica is stupid, I will give you that. But it is not wrong to claim that there was a real (however small) possibility in the 1900s for Canada to have its own overseas territories in the Caribbean.

@MsJondde Год назад

But anyway, maybe you can make a video of your own on the topic or maybe you have made one already? If you really disagree with what I said, you must do it because you truly believe thay you are correct. I'm not saying you aren't, I'm just saying that from what I learnt in a brief period, it would seem to me that you are at least partially incorrect. Then again, I might be completely in the wrong. But seriously, if you have more knowledge on this issue, please do make the video. I wouldn't mind learning more nor being corrected.

@Jade.Phoenix Год назад

I totally appreciate being given answers to questions that I didn't even know were questions to begin with. If more kids in history class were taught the craziness of history, a lot more people would grow up loving it and learning from it ! I love history!!!

@TheWoollyFrog Год назад

History lessons in school can't just be made up of a series of anecdotes and cool facts because one has to learn the basics and how to learn history for themselves. You learn to walk before you can run kind of deal.

@Jade.Phoenix Год назад

@@TheWoollyFrog true but a lot of history class is just learning dates and and names. There are a few good schools that really go into history, but many schools do not.

@Samuri5hit84 Год назад

@@TheWoollyFrog History lessons can be whatever. It could almost even be reading fictional information from false stories. School does not care about the lessons you learn from a specific history lesson. Only the skills you gain from picking information out of a textbook. I had one techer who spent half of the year just on vikings because he loved them and technically they are still history even if they have nothing to do with Canada. I had another teacher who literally said to me "We don't care what topics or time period you study in history, just that you learn reading and comprehension skills." So really history lessons can be about anything because the skills you learn studying any history is the same. Better to teach interesting history than lame facts nobody gives a shit about.

@Luboman411 Год назад

As an American, I will alert my Canadian brothers that it's GREAT to have a nice tropical paradise or two within your nation's jurisdiction. Since I live in NYC, Hawaii has been too far away--and thus expensive--for me to visit. But I have had the pleasure of visiting Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands without a passport or currency exchanges or any of that nonsense. Especially during COVID lockdowns it was beautiful having those places at our disposal, along with Florida. Too bad you lost out, Canada. It would've been great having at least the Turks and Caicos--the beaches there are outstanding. Maybe you could bring this up again with your Prime Minister?

@yeetionary Год назад

well it's too bad Trudeau doesn't promise anything much if at all

@Andrew-gn9qp Год назад

@Krauses The Philippines and Puerto Rico were sold by Spain to America.

@Akinwalesegun Год назад

@Krauses feel free to start a Hawaii independence movement and see who will join you

@dontcomply3976 Год назад

@@yeetionary The consolation prize is that Trudeau's Mum got a bit of Cuban in her.

@garwood.5993 Год назад

Very interesting. Can you talk about George Washington Gillespie would be interesting to see what you find.

@kurtmooreca Год назад

Talks of some former British Caribbean Colonies joining Canada are still on going to this day largely many of the Island Countries (including some motions in Jamaica) and Turks and Caicos is at the top of the heap, in 2017 or 2018 it regained a lot of momentum as a popular topic, but since COVID fizzled out again.

@chrisbennett6260 Год назад

interesting how serious are thoes talks

@godxavior Год назад

We actually still have some interesting close ties with several of the nations that almost became provinces. We provided some infrastructure to them in the lead up to potential assimilation such as ships to begin an inter island service I always tell people about how we almost had our own Caribbean province and they are blown away. What a tragic blunder we made not bringing some of them into the fold

@rb26benjamin8 Год назад

If it happened it was never going to last long you and I know it

@ppppppppp64 Год назад

@@rb26benjamin8 it wouldn’t have lasted long at all. Countries tend to annex places that are culturally similar to them, the US annexed all these places because there were enough people from the American mainland living there. They didn’t annex Cuba, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico for that exact reason. Canada and the Caribbean have absolutely nothing in common

@rb26benjamin8 Год назад

@@ppppppppp64 exactly

@Rhysman30 Год назад

Best choice we ever made. We already pour cash into quebec, why pour cash into another shit hole?

@googane7755 Год назад

@@ppppppppp64 If the population is small enough then it really doesn't matter because it's not large enough to cause any serious civil strife. In fact, tiny island nations tend to be in favour of annexation because that means investment, tourism, access to a larger market, etc.

@Hand-in-Shot_Productions Год назад

I've heard of the Turks and Caicos proposal, but I didn't know Jamaica could have been included, or that there was such a term as "boilerplate independence"! I found the video quite informative! I also found the Canadian Turks and Caicos flag at 2:50 to be a nice touch. Thanks for the video!

@noahdoss1967 Год назад

I love these videos but damn do they make me wish youtube had something between .75x and 1x

@creatorstudioyyc Год назад

Lets get this rolling again!!

@Bans94 Год назад

As a Brit, I literally never heard that this was a thing. History Matters putting in a Mark Felton shift of bringing up obscure historical things that nobody has ever heard of. Good work as always!

@tylorhobbs8920 Год назад

To be fair, as a Canuck, I haven't heard of most of these either. I mean, hell, WW2 is Battle of the Atlantic, Storming Normandy, and why the Dutch offer us tulips every year. Maybe a little Dieppe on the side. Nothing about running the Caribbean. Of course, the Turks and Caicos do get mentioned from time to time, but it never goes anywhere.

@captainjoshuagleiberman2778 Год назад

Canada has very close ties with most of the former British Caribbean Colonies, immigration, foreign aid, even military. For example Canada provided defence troops for most of the Caribbean during WW2 and Jamaicans and Bajans served in the Canadian military during WW2. Although for shear weight of population Florida would be a more likely territory for Canada. 🙂

@xxxBradTxxx Год назад

Or Yuma, AZ. That town is full of Canadian retirees during the winter.

@Dystopia1111 Год назад

Florida (and portions of several other states) were once controlled by the British - can only wonder if in some parallel universe we saw the formation of the Dominion of Canada, Florida, and Jamaica? I'm not sure the Commonwealth would have survived having both Florida Man and Aussie Man.

@realtalk6195 Год назад

@@Dystopia1111 From what I'm seeing, Florida was only a British colony for 2 decades and that too in the late 1700s. So a hypothetical union or confederation scenario with other British territories makes no sense.

@vestafreyja Год назад

A number of years ago my husband and I spent a vacation in the Bahamas and I was actually surprised by the large number of Canadian banks with a presence in the Bahamas; RBC Royal Bank, Scotiabank and CIBC. One of the cable providers in the Bahamas carried a full suite of Canada based TV networks - heck you could even watch Hockey Night in Canada in the Bahamas.

@cryptocsguy9282 Год назад

Canada has a military base in Jamaica for some reason

@john_doe_not_found Год назад

Even if a Caribbean nation joined Canada, the average Canadian could not afford to go there. It would be a drain on Canada's finances as Canada has to fund that island's healthcare, police, navy, politicians, etc. The only Canadians who would ever step foot on the island are Canada's rich. So in the end, the average Canadian gets nothing, and the top 10% get a new winter home. For the Canadian middle class, there is already Cuba. We can't own property there, but vacations are reasonably priced. Now, if Cuba ever asked to join Canada, I'd look into a plan to bring business and wealth to Cuba so that that merger might succeed. Cuba gets to be a democracy and free market, and Canada gets an island big enough that even the middle class of Canada stands a reasonable chance of spending the winter there. Many of us already do.

@fernbedek6302 Год назад

I’ve heard the Grand Turcs are still vaguely a maybe? There were noises about it again a few years back?

@declannewton2556 Год назад

I'm from Trinidad, a country that was part of the proposed West Indies Federation. I'm rather shocked to know my country might have considered to become part of Canada, especially considering our leadership at the time. Also: lmao at "Trinidad and the other one"

@singhisbling9385 Год назад

yeah my mom's side of the family is from trinidad and a lot of them emigrated to canada, it would crazy if this happened because they might have just stayed in trinidad

@lif6737 Год назад

We already have plenty of Trinis here in Toronto. It would’ve made the immigration process a lot easier if they were already Canadian citizens, lol

@declannewton2556 Год назад

@@lif6737 But why should an underdeveloped country like Trinidad make it easier for brain drain to occur? You know people still have to live here right?

@syxepop Год назад

Tobago: Let me introduce myself....

@mechanoid2k Год назад

@@syxepop Tobacco? How I smoke thee. Let me count the ways.

@duchevet Год назад

I once again find myself passionated by the answer to a question I never thought of.

@f3wbs Год назад

I'm a Canadian but my background is Jamaican. I used to wonder the same thing when I was in school because we were both part of the Commonwealth and there are a lot of Jamaicans in Canada.

@MannyLoxx2010 Год назад

As an American, I love Canadians!! I love the humble character and friendly personalities almost all Canadians have!! A very beautiful country, too!!

@Rhysman30 Год назад

Ah, i see we tricked you. We're absolute dickheads, we're just polite about it lmao. But we do love you folks, so come for a visit and you wont have a bad time. But be aware our bars are stingy on the liquor. I swear these mfers are either watering shit down or are shorting us.

@robkat8884 Год назад

It was prior to 2015. Since then it has declined into a shithole country thanks to the leftist government, their followers and the incompetent leader Trudeau.

@sher2942 Год назад

Thank you!

@richardthomas5362 8 месяцев назад

I think the whole relationship between Canada and the US is hilarious. Various parts of Canada have a closer economic relationship with various parts of the US than they do with each other. Most Canadians live quite close to the US border. In most of world history a couple of countries like ours would end up becoming one, usually with the larger one (US) absorbing by force the smaller one (Canada). However, in our case there is zero interest in the US conquering Canada, zero interest in Canada becoming part of the US, and we share the second longest land border in the world and it is totally demilitarized. Everyone seems to think the current arrangement is great. LOL! May it continue.

@itsmeblank4028 Год назад

We(Jamaica) just celebrated 60 years of independence so to hear that we went from British to almost Canadian is funny in my opinion

@Moko_Bomoi Год назад

A mi fi tell yu 😂

@manovrsb Год назад

The upper class elites wanted a white majority rule over the island and didn't want the blacks to move up. Thanks God they left after independence . Good riddance.

@declannewton2556 Год назад

@@Moko_Bomoi You Jamaicans have to seriously work on speaking an intelligible form of English. I'm from another Caribbean island and that made no sense.

@Moko_Bomoi Год назад

@@declannewton2556 you could have requested a translation or interpretation but we love our Patwah dialect passed down by our ancestors , it’s literally what over 90% of the island speaks. It’s just how one Jamaican can identify and relate to another Jamaican🇯🇲

@declannewton2556 Год назад

@@Moko_Bomoi It was a semi-serious jest. I, in fact, went to school with 2 Jamaicans. One was able to adapt to the local dialect and the other... had a pretty strong accent. However it's important to know that in my island, there was one topic that had me studying Caribbean dialects including the Jamaican dialect. Being serious, I'm not saying you should stop it. But just commenting on how hard it is to understand.

@BartlomiejDmowski Год назад

I'm from Poland and in 0:02 I was like: "You don't say?" But well, that was.... really full of surprises. Never been to America, but I think it would be nice to see both Caribbean beaches and Canadian forests

@joaquinperez9146 Год назад

If Canada had a Jamaican province then there wouldn't be as many Winter Texans living down here. We love having the Canadians try to stay warm with us during the cold Season!