Why didn't the Netherlands gain territory after World War 2? (Short Animated Documentary)

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Many gained land from their axis occupiers in World War 2. The Dutch did not. So why?
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@JarNO_WAY 2 года назад

The tiny bit of land that the dutch kept, known as Duivelsberg (or devil's mountain) consists mostly of forest, the only buildings that are there present day is a tiny campsite as well as a pancake restaurant. So technically, the Netherlands just annexed pancakes from Germany.

@mzple 2 года назад

Based

@average-osrs-enjoyer 2 года назад

Wait wtf I've been there loads and never knew it had that history!

@theMoerster 2 года назад

Not too bad but they should've held out for waffles from Belgium instead

@blueseanomad7435 2 года назад

This comment should be pinned.

@thekingoflordagames3517 2 года назад

worth it

@HistoryHustle 2 года назад

Cool video! When the territory was returned many merchants parked their goods in the soon-to-be-German-territory-again in order to avoid border fees. And it worked. Their goods were now on German territory free of charge.

@semperfidelis9083 2 года назад

James Bizzonette chiefly among them.

@jhiediet 2 года назад

Isnt that called the Night of Elten or something like that? Edit: got it, Eltener Butternacht. Thanks for reminding me of this historical feat!

@monkeydank7842 2 года назад

Worth a longer video of you?

@groerhahn225 2 года назад

That's genius!

@TurquazCannabiz 2 года назад

Stefan the legend back at it with the random facts

@fluffehpancakes1102 2 года назад

Knowing the Dutch they probably secretly asked for more Sea space

@hesseleritus4763 2 года назад

helogoland lol

@jelmer-hendrikveen2722 2 года назад

The spice must flow bruder

@grungepolitics 2 года назад

You mean future farmland

@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 2 года назад

There's likely a dutch flag in Doggerland already.

@xander_21 2 года назад

of course we want more sea space we love the sea 😂

@talea.asoka9757 2 года назад

Fun Fact: Germany and the Netherlands have had a border dispute for centuries, at the mouth of a river called the Ems. This river lies between the province of Groningen and the region of East Frisia (which is in Lower Saxony). This border dispute was only settled in 2014.

@Maxime_K-G Год назад

Damn, they already settled it? I thought they had just agreed to disagree but not make a fuss about it.

@ronaldderooij1774 Год назад

@@Maxime_K-G The settlement was that both countries will govern the disputed waters together.

@rb3058 Год назад

Das hört sich eher nach Bürokratie an und nicht nach einem "border dispute". Das kann man sich richtig gut vorstellen, wie beide Seiten nicht wussten, welche Behörde nun zuständig ist.

@talea.asoka9757 Год назад

@@rb3058 Also ist es ein Territorialstreit im ganz klassischen Sinne, er spielte bzw. Spielt nur keine große Rolle sowohl für Deutschland als auch die Niederlande.

@encycl07pedia- 6 месяцев назад

had*, not have had. That implies that the border dispute is ongoing, not settled.

@flatscreengamer9725 2 года назад

1:09 Hamburg is not that far west. Its not in North Rhine Westphalia like you have it but further north and closer to the Danish border in the center-north of the country.

@Charlie-III 2 года назад

were he points on the map must be Hamm(Westfalen) not Hamburg. Hamm is an "important" city in North Rhein Westphalia and Hamburg is well 300km northeast... mistakes happen i guess :D

@benediktnett669 2 года назад

He probably meant "Hamm"

@foundationgamer9771 2 года назад

🤓 Seriously though thanks for pointing that out

@Zehnt1337 2 года назад

The pin points at the city of Hamm, a minor mistake I would assume. Not as important as Hamburg but still very important to the ruhr-area because Hamm had europes larges railway yard and was the railroad gateway to north, central and east germany

@laurinseidelmann6652 2 года назад

@@Zehnt1337 Indeed, also IIRC Hamm and its surroundings was one of the better coal reserves Germany still had access to

@pizzapersona9320 2 года назад

I never knew the netherlands tried to get land in the first place, it's very interesting how different my country could've looked after the war

@robertneven7563 2 года назад

de Nederlanders hadden geen recht op meer land, het waren toch de vriendjes v d Duitsers in de 2de W O??, ook in de eerste W O waren ze toch zooooooo neutraal, forget its, Nederland sloot de westerschelden af in de eerste zodat de Britten en de Belgan geen support meer kregen langs die kant, W O en nam willemhelm met de pinhelm onder ze vleugels , in Doorn kon de woodpecker rustig leven tot ze n dood,

@chrisboogerd3031 2 года назад

G E K O L O N I S E E R D maar ja we zijn dus gewoon genaaid door engeland iedereen kreeg land behalve wij

@JamesBond-lp9wr 2 года назад

Ja dat klopt. Maar ja ooit zal er toch weer een oorlog komen en dan wie weet.

@robertoneven2803 2 года назад

@@chrisboogerd3031 T ja dan hadden jullie Nederlanders maar moeten mèè doen bij het bevrijden van jully land in 1944 1945, geen kloten hebben jullie gedaan bij de bevrijding van Nederland, waar waren de mariniers???????????????het K C T ?????????????????????????? Prinses Irene brigade????????????? na de bevrijding van Tilburg door the Britich army , meer bepaald de Schotten mocht de prinses Irene brigaden niet deel nemen aan de parade, hen aandeel in de strijd was te minetjes , dus??????????????????

@chrisboogerd3031 2 года назад

@@robertoneven2803 valt ook niet veel te vechten als je verouderde militaire dienst hebt. Weinig mensen en wapens en training voor gevechten uit de 19e eeuw. De Nederlanders hebben gevochten voor alles wat ze waard waren maar na 4 dagen moesten ze opgeven. En tijdens de bevrijding hebben Nederlanders zeker wel gevochten maar onder Engelse vlag en als verzetstrijders. Leer je geschiedenis voor je domme opmerkingen maakt.

@aeonsolo 2 года назад

1:09 do you mean the town "Hamm"? The City of Hamburg lies far Northeast of Münster. Like farfar :P Anyhow, love the videos, keep it up.

@kaiserhhaie841 2 года назад

Ah, this makes sense. I was just asking myself the same thing

@yah5o 2 года назад

And by "Northwest" you mean north-east ;) almost north-north-east

@aeonsolo 2 года назад

@@yah5o haha yeee. East. West. Aren't those bourgeois categories?

@ReuterL 2 года назад

Yeah, lets just call Hamm the new Hamburg. Noone will notice the difference. Lets also call New York, Springfield

@kaiserhhaie841 2 года назад

@@ReuterL what? Hamburg is not on the location Pinned in that video and it's also not in any of the Dutch territorial demands

@ronik24 2 года назад

1:08 I doubt that Hamburg is south of Münster... ;-) It actually is much further northwest than the top right corner of the shown territory... which does not even reach as far as Bremen.

@Charlie-III 2 года назад

were he points on the map must be Hamm(Westfalen) not Hamburg. Hamm is an "important" city in North Rhein Westphalia and Hamburg is well 300km northeast... mistakes happen i guess :D

@dw620 2 года назад

Good spot! (And somewhat glossed over quite how many ethnic Germans were refugees after being expelled from the East, too...)

@dutchgamerguy2446 2 года назад

Oh Bremen, Beautiful city of roadblocks and construction

@donmah06 2 года назад

The southern bit of returned land, Selkant and Tuddere, was built up by the dutch govt as a suburb for the nearby city of Sittard. So, most people in that municipality still live close to it while most of the rest is farmland. Also, the demograpics of this municipality is to this day quite weird and diverse; not only a lot of dutch and germans but also a lot of cultures from other coldwar-era NATO countries. I'm guessing this is probably because of the nearby NATO base near Geilenkirchen and the old important NATO regional headquarters in/near Maastricht (which was partially situated in caves underneath it, very cool! Pictures of it look really interesting, a lot of oldddd computers and other technical equipment and american cave-street names)

@JusticeCactus 2 года назад

The NATO base is located in Geilenkirchen not Kirchroa.

@thed542 2 года назад

The Maastricht base is now void and simply caves you can visit in the summer! It also hosts illegal raves too

@donmah06 2 года назад

@@JusticeCactus ahh thank you! yeah I forgot where it was exactly; plus the last time I searched for it on google maps you could see it but there wasn't any label for it yet

@donmah06 2 года назад

@@thed542 oooo yeah I heard about that as well!

@Laszlo5897 2 года назад

That's where my family's from. Quite surreal to see this comment.

@zacksung11 2 года назад

I hope you make these videos in the future: -Why does Belize exist? -Why isn't Brunei part of Malaysia? -How did France and Portugal possess cities in India, and why didn't the British Raj kick them out? -How did Brazil have an emperor, and what happened to the royal family? -And finally, why are there two Samoas? Lovely video, as always. I'm excited to see your next topics.

@leeham1405 2 года назад

Answers: Britain Britain Napoleon Britain Britain 'Educated guess'

@emlynselene1096 2 года назад

I would also suggest "Why does Liechtenstein exist", "Why does San Marino exist", and "Why does Monaco" exist. Interestingly the only one of those I don't know the answer to is Monaco

@Louis-qs9cj 2 года назад

@@leeham1405 nah the two samoas are because germany and the us

@Louis-qs9cj 2 года назад

@@emlynselene1096 simple answer: hre

@Guido_XL 2 года назад

- Why did Neutral Moresnet exist (for more than a century)?

@jasper265 2 года назад

I loved the thing you did with "plan bij" there. It took me a few seconds to get it was intentional and not just a mistranslation, but once I did, I thoroughly enjoyed the multilingual pun.

@ninjaturtledd 2 года назад

I was searching for this comment. Perfect pun.

@timvlaar 2 года назад

Great video, but one correction: whenever a close-up map of the Netherlands is shown, the modern map of the Netherlands is shown (with Flevoland), but Flevoland only came into existence in the 80's. The correct map is shown at 0:41.

@croozerdog 2 года назад

Wait you wont give us land? Fine. We'll make our own.

@Hilversumborn 2 года назад

@@croozerdog With Blackjack and hookers

@svdgnl 2 года назад

The Noordoostpolder was made in the 40 so in should be there and the flevopolder in 50 and 60.

@cyrilwiddershoven6437 2 года назад

@@croozerdog our goals is to take the entire north sea as land

@timvlaar 2 года назад

That still leaves the south of the province which didn't exist yet.

@openthinker6562 2 года назад

I love how you can see piles of Butter at 2:32 in the building. Other comments say it’s a reference to how trucks parked their goods during the border change to avoid paying border fees, which worked!

@fancyfernando9687 2 года назад

Good video as always, but one small correction: at 1:08 I'm pretty sure you mean the city of "Hamm" and not Hamburg, Hamburg is way further up north.

@mandmand3132 2 года назад

@Ricky Smith ur a failure for ur country, hamburg isnt near anywhere near where the arrow pointed. hamburg is rather close to the danish border

@brickonblock5183 2 года назад

@Ricky Smith yeah but the marker points to Hamm. so either a error in the marker placement or in the text overlayed onto the marker or something completely different

@mees9704 2 года назад

And out of revenge for not getting any land the Dutch will now attempt to create a land border with Britain.

@mielBrouns 2 года назад

Yes we are coming for them

@Jack-Hands 2 года назад

DoggerlandPolder is a go.

@lily6246 2 года назад

Did you know that there is a landmass in between, or was, like its underwater now. But it was all connected as true neighbors! Britannica lost a lot of landmass to the sea and became an island on that point

@mielBrouns 2 года назад

@@lily6246 yes because they knew we where going to get them. But we still will mark my words. WE’RE COMMING.

@lily6246 2 года назад

@@mielBrouns lol, no let's reunite, that's more productive in this era;)

@rsmapping Год назад

Wide Poland doesn't exist, it can't hurt you

@HayaseMTSR 2 года назад

I actually live in the area Germany bought back in the 1960's. There is to this day a lot of pro-Dutch sentiment here specifically from older people who still feel Dutch. Most younger people here, including me, just call themselves a weird mix between Dutch and German because while our passport says German and we speak German we grew up with a lot of Dutch culture and a lot of us also speak Dutch.

@Raadpensionaris 2 года назад

That is honestly pretty cool. Didn't know that it still has such effects till this day

@perrys1723 2 года назад

Where in Germany?

@HayaseMTSR 2 года назад

@@perrys1723 the over all area that got bought back is called "Selfkant" and it's the western most point of Germany today

@ReddoFreddo 2 года назад

You're telling me that after less than 20 years of Dutch rule the people there became Dutch culturally? Or were the Germans there removed and replaced with Dutch people?

@hendrikdependrik1891 2 года назад

Nou mooi, kunnen we daar direct even een paar volksrepubliekjes stichten.

@wuzzle22 2 года назад

The dutch: *don't get more land after WW2* The dutch: UGH, *fine* we'll make more

@umgssda 2 года назад

When the Netherlands gave back the Selfkant region they kept control of a road they build as a transit route through there. The road was then totally unaccessible from the surrounding german land. This only changed in the 1990s when new intersections were added and it was integrated into the german road network.

@peteranderson037 2 года назад

Apparently, the Dutch seem to like their territorial concessions. The reviews on Google Maps give it a 4.2 out of 5. According to the reviews it seems to be a good place to walk your dog.

@赤青白 2 года назад

"The government is said to be pushing for another territorial concession this time at the expense of Belgium, because in Queen Juliana's words 'It's not like it's a real country.'" I love how much effort he put in the newspaper section. Legend.

@B_men_apo 2 года назад

A real slay queen

@itsblitz4437 2 года назад

Your profile pic and name is confusing. Is it Serbian or Japanese?

@klartraum8495 2 года назад

@@itsblitz4437 Serbianese. You are welcome

@itsblitz4437 2 года назад

@@klartraum8495 thank you sir, for that clever word play.

@BernasLL 2 года назад

"BUY CIGARETTES" by Superliminar Advertising Co. was pretty good as well.

@commonwealthrealm 2 года назад

Poland, the only allied country that lost more territories after WW2 than they gained...

@Altermerea 2 года назад

The lands obtained in exchange were more valuable. Just having more territory isn't enough, Algeria is the largest country in all of Africa, and 95% of it is just sand, sand and an inhospitable more sand.

@keeganharris186 2 года назад

also the only country that literraly moved sidways

@nobleman9393 2 года назад

I would say that modern Polish border is far better.

@smilingearth5181 2 года назад

Poland: so, what do we get after all this? Postwar powers: you get to exist

@Rabauke84 2 года назад

Poland got the best parts of the back then Germany. Heavy industrialized and pretty rich on ressources, they also got important ports. Actually, you can still see the former german border by looking at the railways in Poland.

@stevemc01 2 года назад

0:34 Oof that’s pretty accurate… Mussolini was killed by partisans and hung up and humiliated. Hitler opted to play Furnace Simulator IV. Hirohito survived.

@tommy_clayton 2 года назад

"Britain doesn't give other countries lands, that's not how it works. I mean, seriously, are you high?" In the newspaper 😂

@daansstuff2952 2 года назад

As a Dutch myself, I never knew about this history!

@cocafristyhoi1645 2 года назад

We did actually keep a little hill. Totally worth it in my opinion.

@james64ibm 2 года назад

I mean in 50 years or so it will probably double the area of the Netherlands above sea level, so I'd call it a great success.

@ressljs 2 года назад

So did you keep that just so you'd have something physical to look at and say, "YES, we took this from Germany?"!

@dalstein3708 2 года назад

It is called the Duivelsberg, and it is a really nice place for a walk.

@dextercochran4916 2 года назад

Put a windmill on it and plant tulips near it. It will be seen as historically part of Holland.

@TheKahim 2 года назад

😂

@ceffmm1031 Год назад

The answer is very simple, if they had ceded territory it would cease to be de facto the 'low countries', and a space-time distortion would be formed. To avoid what would be the beginning of the end of humanity, it is that they preferred that coherence continue, and that they continue to be the 'low countries'.

@jarnodatema 2 года назад

0:15 One mistake: Flevoland didn’t exist back then. We reclaimed an entire province out of the sea after the war.

@genericyoutubeaccount579 2 года назад

The Netherlands forced German POWs and Nazi collaborates to walk through the massive minefields after the war. About 260 of them died "clearing minefields" with nothing but their feet. Dutch women who had slept with German soldiers were also punished but not as severely.

@pietervanderzwaan4295 2 года назад

i believe denmark did the same style of minesweeping

@Perririri 2 года назад

@@pietervanderzwaan4295 Both countries violated Geneva Accords

@SoWhat1221 2 года назад

@@pietervanderzwaan4295 There's a pretty good film about this, called Land of Mine.

@IudiciumInfernalum 2 года назад

They put them there so they get to clear them out. Seems fair to me.

@StYxXx 2 года назад

@@IudiciumInfernalum Even women and kids burried mines?

@LeonSittard Год назад

The part in the south which was given back to Germany in 1963 is called Selfkant and they speak the same dialect as in the mid of Limburg.

@caervlevsmaximvs7518 2 года назад

I'm dutch so I just had to instant-like the video, lol. Video itself deserves the like too.

@Numba003 2 года назад

This is another question I hadn't really thought of to ask lol. I enjoy these that I haven't really considered before. Thank you for another interesting bite size snippet of history. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

@azulong89 Год назад

1:08 Hamburg is somewhere waaay different

@kekistani6712 2 года назад

1:09, this isn't Hamburg, it's Hamm, which has actually 180.000 inhabitants instead of 1,8 Million in Hamburg

@littlebearandchicken2077 Год назад

It's good to see that even back then, our government was a disastrous failure... Some things never change.

@nedsnark6479 2 года назад

Once again, James Bizzonette could have saved everyone a lot stress had he been given the chance.

@PANZERFAUST90 2 года назад

omfg let it go already.......

@fatchins9126 2 года назад

@@PANZERFAUST90 NO I WON'T 😭

@tacob0 2 года назад

Who?

@mikespearwood3914 2 года назад

@@tacob0 The universe boss!

@nedsnark6479 2 года назад

@@PANZERFAUST90 can't...won't

@Jonago. 2 года назад

As a Dutch person I never knew this, very interesting!

@lily6246 2 года назад

Same!

@derhenri2002 2 года назад

1:02 I had to laugh out loud at that because my entire family basically comes from Münster. Yeah, the claims were absolutely ridiculous. Can't image they had gotten what they wanted!

@javahne4007 2 года назад

It would have been an improvement, to be honest. For all involved, to be really honest 😀

@tigervv6437 2 года назад

At the time proper compensation would have been fair, given the levels of destruction in The Netherlands. The claims were outragious, obviously, but Germany got off pretty good if you ask me.

@RK-cj4oc 2 года назад

Bruh. 5 years before the dutch asked this the Germans claimed everything from Normandy to Kazachstan as theirs. this is reasonable in comparison.

@nicolasmarazuela1010 2 года назад

@@tigervv6437 the dutch claims wouldn't have been a good idea in the long run. This would ment, that Frnace also would annex territory and a weak Germany would have been fatal during the building of the European Community.

@deutschermichel5807 2 года назад

@@RK-cj4oc Actually no. Germany didn't claim nor annex everything from Normandie to Kasachstan. Germany only temporarily occupied it, whereas Poland got annexed

@marskavols1073 Год назад

you should do one on why Czechia did not get land when there were even territories that wanted to join them

@Adam-xf9gm 2 года назад

0:48 Germany didn't start WWI. I get your point tho

@rockypower5168 2 года назад

They had a big impact in Austria Hungary's aggression and egged them on so...

@petra6762 2 года назад

So did the UK and France

@thepretorian5292 Год назад

@@rockypower5168 so did russia had on serbia

@ahmedbabiker6562 Месяц назад

@thepretorian5292 Russia guaranteed independence for Serbia What did Germany do to Austria-hungry? "go invade whatever you want. i will support you"

@Chase1493 2 года назад

Would have been nice to see East Frisia reunited with rest of Frisia, for obvious reasons.

@DonGivani 2 года назад

Between Frisia and OstFrisia, there is Groningen. Groningen is not Frisia and more linked to Nedersaks then Frisia.

@RedRocketthefirst 2 года назад

@@DonGivani Yeah but, frisia

@davineismont2264 2 года назад

A question i've never asked myself but is really interesting

@rickvugts1242 2 года назад

One way the Dutch got compensation from Germany was by seizing property and assets from German enemy citizens living in the Netherlands. Basically anyone with a german passport was declared an enemy, so also Jews and innocent families. for those interested see: Besluit Vijandlijk Vermogen (E133). The dutch also deported many germans as part of operation black tulip, often also many innocents. It is a part of the Dutch national history that is often overlooked.

@dw620 2 года назад

Thanks for noting this... Much is conveniently "overlooked", unfortunately, such as the scale of quite how many ethnic German civilians were refugees looking for new homes after being expelled from the East (14,000,000, give or take, minus the million or so who died en route...).

@rickvugts1242 2 года назад

@@dw620 I recently wrote my thesis on the topic and was fascinated by the topic. Although in the period it is understandable that people felt hate towards "the German enemy", that doesnt make it right to target innocent civilians solely based on nationality. That was always something that bugged me about the ww2 memory history: the lack of acknowledgment of the (post) war suffering of German citizens. Your point about German refugees is correct, but too often overlooked... two wrongs dont make a right

@danielbishop1863 2 года назад

Related fact: When the Czechoslovak government seized the property of "ethnic Germans" after the war, they took some land that had belonged to the royal family of Liechtenstein, despite that country having been neutral. Liechtenstein was so unhappy about this that they refused to recognize either Czechia or Slovakia until 2009.

@ferrykeizer4911 2 года назад

Oh shit. That was kind of a dick move on our part innit.

@robertneven7563 2 года назад

de Nederlanders hebben zelfs hun eigen land niet eens bevrijd in de 2de W O dat waren de Canadezen de U S , de Polen de Noren de Britten en de Belgen, waar waren de heldhaftigen Nederlandse mariniers?de prinses Irene brigade??????? het K C T ,,,,,,,,,,,???????????? nergens

@jackodees1765 2 года назад

A small correction: The Dutch government is not based in Amsterdam, it's based in Den Haag.

@sam08g16 2 года назад

Den Haag Deez Nuts

@brianplum1825 2 года назад

You're not as correct as you think. Amsterdam is the Dutch capital -- the Hague is the seat of government.

@LimeGreenTeknii 2 года назад

"Netherlands, you're not getting any more land" Netherlands: "That's fine, we'll make some more of our own land, out in the ocean."

@kevinf8439 2 года назад

"Compensation" lol. It was illegal annexation and forced expulsion.

@jaspermooren5883 5 месяцев назад

It wouldn't be illegal, since it would have been literally an agreement between nations. But yeah, the forced expulsion bit makes me glad it never happend as a Dutch person. Expulsing millions of people from their homes completely emptying historical centres like Köln and Aachen would have been cultural genocide if it had happened.

@alexanderzippel8809 2 года назад

Great video, unfortunately at 1:09 u made a tiny mistake labeling Hamburg pretty close to Dortmund and the Ruhr in general. But besides that, I love the video

@patrickhaeusler 2 года назад

1:10 That's Hamm, not Hamburg.

@theromanmapper Год назад

Dutch politics: Give us this lands Allies: No Dutch politics: Why? Allies: Ask if the sea will turn yours back and then we'll discuss about this (Ik this haven't sense)

@cheradeninezakalwe5957 2 года назад

0:02 Minor detail, but before the end of World War 2, Italy was also in posession of the Dodecanese Islands, with the main territory being Rhodes, so it should be shown on the map.

@RangaTurk 2 года назад

That became problematic when Bulgaria was an AXIS member in 1941. Bulgaria also gained territory from Romania after the war despite this fact as well.

@AlexRochette Год назад

If only the allied had been as generous as James Bisonette! 😎

@letheas6175 2 года назад

They should've got the former province of Oost Friesland. Part of the dutch realm like 100 year before that.

@RedRocketthefirst 2 года назад

Why does everyone hate us?

@letheas6175 2 года назад

@@RedRocketthefirst Ehrm, who does? I never hear hate.

@L.A.ismyname 2 года назад

1:27 "plan bij" lmao literally translated it says "plan bee"🐝

@DenniskuhhNL Год назад

We missed out once again 😞

@stephmod7434 2 года назад

The same happens with Greece. We suffer a lot in ww2 but they only gave us Dodecanese but we also wanted Northern Epirus and Cyprus. Also Dodecanese is the less important except the island of Castelorizo but propably Castelorizo would be attacked by Turkey in the near future...

@deutschermichel5807 2 года назад

Northern Epirus? You mean like 💫Albania💫? tf But ok, go get Cyprus

@Augustus_Imperator 2 года назад

greece shouId have got constantinopIe and the european coast of turkey in ww1 and aIbania in ww2

@Hiroakiarai88 2 года назад

@@Augustus_Imperator lol funny joke

@user-wm6zf4jg2z 2 года назад

They did, the Turks just took it back lmfao

@deutschermichel5807 2 года назад

@@Augustus_Imperator I am ok with carving up the turks but leave alone Albania, Albanians in return claim "southern Epirus"

@TheHylianBatman 2 года назад

Surprising how the Dutch went from a gigantic empire to being laughed out of negotiations. History, I suppose.

@jongerenreviews8559 2 года назад

To be fair, the British always had a hard-on for making life difficult for the Dutch

@maozedong44 2 года назад

@@jongerenreviews8559 Jealousy. Plus the humiliation of being invaded and used as a puppet against the french by the dutch republic is painful history for the brits.

@bonbondurjdr6553 2 года назад

The Brits hate everybody.

@kis4659 2 года назад

@@jongerenreviews8559 Good. Dutch deserve no less.

@Ukraineaissance2014 2 года назад

Not is isnt? It so unpainful that I dont even know what the fuck you are talking about unless you are trying to categorise the glorious revolution as an 'invasion'? In which case, we call it the glorious revolution for a reason...

@MrAaeron 9 месяцев назад

They got the whole nether. Not the most hospitable lands but there's gold aplenty.

@sevenprovinces 2 года назад

Not - entirely - related, but there is a very strong, persistent urban legend regarding the not so great English (or Dunglish) a lot of Dutch politicians spoke at the time (and some still do). This one revolves around a former minister of foreign affairs, Joseph Luns. It is said that while on a diplomatic mission to the US, mister Luns had a meeting with John F. Kennedy. During a more informal moment in the meeting Kennedy asked "Mr. Luns, what are your hobbies?" to which poor mister Luns enthusiastically replied "I fok horses!" (fokken meaning 'to breed' in Dutch). An exasperated Kennedy replied "Pardon?!" to which mr. Luns even more enthusiastically replied "Yes! Paarden!" (Paarden being Dutch for horses, and considering Kennedy's twang ' probably close to how he pronounced it as well. 'Pah'den?!'). Suffice to say, sometimes I am not all that surprised we Dutch keep missing all the truly important EU and UN seats and appointments. An important bit of information for any lover of history or, like me, the sense of humor of a 12 year old. Or both!

@mizzymiao 2 года назад

This made me laugh way too much XD thanks for this hillarious piece of history!

@RH-ro3sg Год назад

It's a funny story, but I suspect it's an urban legend indeed. Luns spent half a year at the London School of Economics when he was young so his skills in English likely would have been better than that.

@matthiassardon1147 2 года назад

I really love to read the newspapers, they're hilarious

@echoreus Год назад

Great video my only critic is that it could have been a 20 second animation instead

@deldarel Год назад

Glad we didn't get that land for the most part. I wish we got the general area of Ostfriesland up to the Jade Bight without the outkicking of the people there. They're quite similar to the Frisians and the Low Germans of the north of the Netherlands.

@deathpony698 2 года назад

If only the Netherlands had a Patreon, then James Bissonette could have helped them simply buy the land they wanted

@mathewvanlonden8310 2 года назад

Nah, we wanted the money, the land was the consulation prize. 0:34

@tuktuk1959 2 года назад

as a Dutchman I have never heard of this before 😂 great job!

@maestroazzey 2 года назад

Volgens mij was het het Bakker-Schut plan. Ze hadden zelfs al NLs talige namen voor Duitse steden bedacht xD

@486er 2 года назад

Have you ever looked at a german map? It seems to be very awkward to put Hamburg in the position of Hamm ... which are two different cities. Hamburg is this tiny little city in northern germany that has the Elbphilharmonie, the Hamburg harbour, the HAmburg fish market. It is acutally located in the east of Bremerhaven which itself is located at the most north east point in th map shown at 1:09 in the video.

@familygash7500 2 года назад

*VIDEO SUGGESTION:* Why did Bulgaria gain land after World War II, despite being in The Axis?

@B_B463 2 года назад

As a Dutchman I'm glad our old government did not succeed in unrightfully seizing those lands. Germany suffered a lot and lost a lot of territory after both wars and it disgusts me that minor nations such as the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Lithuania and Poland try to profit from a victory that does not even belong to them. The Dutch state had no historical ties to Munster or Hamburg, and neither did the Poles have ties to Breslau (Wroclaw) or Stettin (Szczecin) and many other east German areas. We didn't split up France after they failed at Waterloo either.

@splatbeef74 2 года назад

I feel like East Frisia would have been fair, because there were historical ties to that, but the rest was indeed just way too much

@B_B463 2 года назад

@@splatbeef74 I get your point but it is not fair. The Germans overpowered us and were defeated by 3 world powers, excluding the Dutch. Meaning we do not deserve to seize those lands.

@boy_becauseofyou 2 года назад

I'm conflicted in this regard. I'm more European and think we should intensify our joining within the EU. Therefore today I hardly think about a region being German, Dutch, Czech or Polish. And I'm glad the Nazis were defeated. On the other hand I become sad to read about the history of Königsberg and other cities especially considering it is all a result of the great war. I'm pretty sure the empire would have subdued the fascist movement. I'm recently into genealogy and it's strange to see all those German cities where some of my ancestors were born doesn't exist anymore. All the people were expelled and the cities renamed.

@carstengrooten3686 2 года назад

@@B_B463 what makes a country deserve land? The Germans invaded the NL for no real reason other then territorial gain. They bombed Rotterdam and looted the economy leaving the country in a deprived state without the Dutch having done anything to them. I think the Dutch would have deserved some compensation for that (all be it symbolic), and if it couldnt be money, than land would be the second best. That being said, one person doing something wrong does not neccesarilly allow someone else to also do wrong. That is childrens logic, and I am glad that no real land was given as it would have caused even more problems. But I do not disagree that the NL did not deserve territorial consessions because they had a small army even though they suffered more than for example the US. They did not have a large military because they never wanted war, and maybe that makes them more 'deserving' of any land than the Axis or Allied powers, even though we are still greatly thankful for the latter to liberate us.

@carstengrooten3686 2 года назад

@@boy_becauseofyou it was good the nazis were expelled from lands that were not theirs, but the Germans should not have been kicked out of the lands that were. Poland mainly got half of Prussia because the Sovjets gained half of Poland. In the end, the Russians were the real winners. Consessions based on ethnicity and history make sense, those out of greed do not. Unfortunately, the effects are irreversible, but it is what one can expect for causing a world war...

@Rato_Arabe 2 года назад

0:08 these polish borders are absolutely cursed

@Woud_ Год назад

At 0:25 I live at the border of this area and I can say it's financially a good thing that it is German land again. Groceries, petrol and other products are a lot cheaper by simple driving 10 minutes further to Tuddern or getting beer for cheap from Schramowski Getranke xD

@RoyvanArem 2 года назад

1:09 it must have been really stormy weather if Hamburg moved all the way there.

@Wereldburger01 Год назад

What hardly anyone knows is that in 1963 a small piece of Dutch territory of about 20 hectares that has always been Dutch has ceded to Germany for the construction of the A3 motorway from Oberhausen to the German/Dutch bordercrossing Elten/Bergh. The evidence that the Netherlands gave a small piece Dutch territory to Germany shows topographical maps of the area southwest of the Dutch village Megchelen from before and after 1963. The A3 that was planned there through a small piece of Dutch territory there appears to be entirely on German territory after 1963. The about 20 hectares Dutch territory (8 km northwest of Rees) going to Germany for 125 hectares German territory east of Nijmegen to the Netherlands was as the 1963 final border correction a good deal for the Dutch.

@aravindhanil7235 2 года назад

What was imperial Japan's reaction to the fall of Nazi Germany?

@aidanjt 2 года назад

Banzai!!!!!!!

@PunchAddicted 2 года назад

As a Dutch person, the reason is actually because we're chilling outside with tulips! We're too distracted to expand. Plus were kinda lazy...

@PunchAddicted Год назад

@@Waterdiver3900 yeah, that's true.

@degekkesquad2206 2 года назад

as a Dutchman i can say that a good relation with germany and the rest of Europe is way more valuable than a bigger orange blob on a map

@miwi9883 2 года назад

Thats probably true. And I am nor sure how this land would have been populated...and all the ruins would have been left there for the few dutch settlers to rebuild everything. I don't think it would have worked out in favor of the netherlands economically.

@johannbrrr8065 2 года назад

@@miwi9883 maybe they would have imported moroccans and settled them there

@rulipari Год назад

At Minute 1:09 the placement of Hamburg as south of Münster is "a tiny bit" (/s) wrong. That should be couple hundred kilometres north of there.

@agactual2 2 года назад

This sounds like a case where Britain was being completely reasonable and they were trying to prevent a major humanitarian crisis in a country that was already in ruins from the war. It seems like it would have been a disaster if the Dutch got what they wanted.

@rafaelahlert8050 2 года назад

Yeah the british probably feared a 3rd world war

@wouter.de.ruiter 2 года назад

Nope. They didn't really give a damn about the humanitarian aspect. No more than when they sent Russian refugees back to the USSR, knowing full well that Stalin would send them straight to the gulags. And those were innocent refugees, some of them from the Russian revolution, so well before WW2. Imagine how much they cared about a bunch of Nazi's.

@BeesKneesBenjamin 7 дней назад

In the end, being Dutch, I'm glad these areas were never given to Germany. They weren't historically ours, it would've caused many, mostly innocent, citizens to be displaced from their ancestral grounds. I'm from a similar region, Noord-Brabant. These cultural differences never resolve, and being a minority group it's frustrating little attention is given to such differences in the long run. It probably also would've been a big cause of issues, friction and displeased people. We could've been a bit more economically powerful, but in the end, life's amazing here with or without the land. It's mostly Poland who got a big area, but compared to the suffering THAT country had to go through, ours was thankfully relatively unaffected. With the majority of cities there bombed to the ground, they atleast deserved an area from where they could rebuild the country from.

@pabcu2507 2 года назад

Because they first needed james bissonette’s seal of approval

@koensmit7533 2 года назад

@1:09, Hamburg is not where the arrow is pointing 👀

@proudarchivist3018 Год назад

A bit larger part in the north of The Netherlands became Dutch as well, but was returned to Germany even before the 1960s. That part is the “bulge” of German land under Drenthe.

@zhenya17 2 года назад

And then they took some land from the sea

@Brisingirraudhr Год назад

Hey great video, couldn't help but notice tho that Hamburg is not located where you pointed at in the video

@ralphznl 2 года назад

Hamburg is way up north from where you pointed it out on the map…

@Helvetia-1 2 года назад

Great video and a lot of info I didn't even know about my own country, but one small mistake by mentioning the "Amsterdam Government" since we're governed from Den Haag and not Amsterdam

@leavealoner 2 года назад

I love the little Plan Bij joke, as a translation of Plan B(ee)

@ИванПетров-с5ю4к 2 года назад

Ww1 and ww2 expulsions were criminal in my opinion. Making civilians leave there homes is cruel. Especially when there ancestors have lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years. With all wars it’s always the people that pay the ultimate price.

@vaurix_ 2 года назад

The thing that bothers me about it is that the allies decided at the Nuremberg trials that such expulsions were genocide…. Which they then did themselves…. After that was half the reason they were there in the first place. very hypocritical to punish a nation that was violating multiple Geneva convention accords by… violating multiple Geneva convention accords.

@MK-ev5rz Год назад

1:09 That's not Hamburg, that's the city Hamm.

@Shingennization Год назад

Never knew Hamburg was so far down south....

@karlmall 2 года назад

Yeah, it started with the so called Bakker-Schut-Plan, but in the end all that the Netherlands got from Germany was the Duivelsberg (German: Wylerberg or Teufelsberg "devil's mountain"), a hardly populated hill and nature reserve.

@RedRocketthefirst 2 года назад

Why not more

@johnnyllooddte3415 Год назад

are you kidding. they capitulated without a single shot.. theyre lucky to still be a country

@hello-rq8kf Год назад

delusional

@PMeer-gc7kw Год назад

Very interesting. Did not know that. Did think about it some times but didn't seek the answer. Also, the answer is somewhat disappointed regarding the Dutch government. From a big chunk of land to a miserable lawn

@sebastianriemer1777 2 года назад

My mother was born there, her father was the Head of the railway in that area. She has a Dutch birth certificate because of that. 😁

@450b 2 года назад

GEKOLONISEERD

@brickonblock5183 2 года назад

1:09 thats Hamm between Dortmund and Münster, not Hamburg. Hamburg is a good bit further to the nort-east

@dashric 2 года назад

Anyone else wholly bothered that Hamburg is in the REALLY wrong place on the map at 1:09

@MrZwartwit 2 года назад

We already got foreign lands. We call it Limburg. It looks as dutch as if it was a rainforest.

@Backwards_lion 2 года назад

The plan b joke is pretty funny because the word bee we call in the netherlands bij

@Louie_is_kakaball Год назад

I am Netherlands hallo thanks for information

@LykanHyper10 10 месяцев назад

2:00 LMAO “After 11 hours of beratement, the British ambassador returned to the UK where he is undergoing psychological treatment” bro is the best at being funny 🔥🔥🔥