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Why didn't the Ottomans conquer Persia?
The Ottoman Empire secured its place as one of the most powerful and large empires throughout its 600 years of history. It was the empire that seized Constantinople and collapsed the Byzantine Empire, and its cultural expansion still remains throughout some of its former vassal states today. But there will always be curious as to why any empire stopped where it did, and what prevented further growth before the ultimate collapse. In the case of the Ottomans, one question that comes to mind is why didn’t the Ottomans conquer Persia?...
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♦Sources :
McCaffrey, Michael J. Encyclopaedia Iranica, Vol. IV.
Mikaberidze, Alexander. Historical Dictionary of Georgia.
Matthee, Rudi. The Ottoman-Safavid War of 986-998/1578-90: Motives and Causes.
Parizi, Mohammad-Ebrahim Bastani. Encyclopaedia Iranica, Vol. X.
Sicker, Martin. The Islamic World in Decline: From the Treaty of Karlowitz to the Disintegration of the Ottoman Empire.
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Комментарии : 10 тыс.   
@emeraldblack8101
@emeraldblack8101 2 года назад
Simple answer: The ottomans took the title Caesar and hence the curse of not conquering Persia came with it.
@esramnor6734
@esramnor6734 2 года назад
Augustus was very close to conquering Persia.
@edrickhuge4637
@edrickhuge4637 2 года назад
@@esramnor6734 no he was not. He was happy with haveing peace with their civlized neighbours. Augustus like Hadrian thought that rome had reached it logical max extend once it had conquered the lands up to the danueb, rihne and tygris. He knew that rome with it's tools of it's time could not govern so many people. It's exactly why the west fell and the east, which was abel to secure peace with the persians and only had th danueb region to petro was much more stabel for it.
@nowayman1406
@nowayman1406 2 года назад
@@esramnor6734 Trajan vassalized parthians.
@vercingetorix1423
@vercingetorix1423 2 года назад
@@esramnor6734 romanın perslere gücü hiçbir zaman yetmedi
@esramnor6734
@esramnor6734 2 года назад
@@nowayman1406 You don't know anything about history Parthians were a very weak state.
@crimfan
@crimfan 2 года назад
The old borders of the Roman and later Byzantine Empires with Persia more or less reappeared. Geography was destiny again.
@-ahmed121
@-ahmed121 2 года назад
It almost seems like universal or historical borders for Persia from the partheins to the savavids to modern republic
@pb25193
@pb25193 2 года назад
Laughs in Cyrus the great, and first caliphate
@skland1619
@skland1619 2 года назад
@@pb25193 caliphate?
@pb25193
@pb25193 2 года назад
@@skland1619 Islamic empire of 9th century went from India to Spain, in a single stretch
@tylerellis9097
@tylerellis9097 2 года назад
@@pb25193 You mean 8th century.
@NewYorkPickers
@NewYorkPickers 10 месяцев назад
Love this. Thank you for making this video about a topic I knew nothing about. It reinforces the concept that geography plays a great role in war.
@dbzsnakedante
@dbzsnakedante Год назад
So it was the Zagros mountains, scorched earth, size of both Persia and Ottoman Empire and internal political struggles which stopped it. Very interesting- thank you!
@-_whysoserious_-
@-_whysoserious_- Год назад
No ,the conclusions of these video is wrong.All reason was in religion .Ottomans and safavids werevboth from sane origin called Oghuz turks.They were united and both called Selchuk turkamans till 15th century till first shia turk Karakhoyunlu(blacksheeps) tripe congured others in Iran geograpy and after that shia population rised and in Safavids period it became major.Shia tribes in Ottoman empire like Runlu,Ustacli,Shahseven and etc alco joined to Safavids.These Zagros mountains never stoped turks.And that persians till Shah Abbas ,Safavids shah,neve been in army
@ArthurMorgan-ux9jj
@ArthurMorgan-ux9jj 11 месяцев назад
True the mountains of Iran have always protected the country from many invaders. Iran is probably the oldest established country in the world. I believe it was called Iran since 3000 years ago.
@Royyalflush
@Royyalflush 11 месяцев назад
Before the Ottoman Empire the Seljuk Turks did conquer Persia before conquering the Byzantine empire so depending on how you see it they technically did, just without the ottoman title.
@tigersaid9156
@tigersaid9156 10 месяцев назад
@@-_whysoserious_- It is true, have you ever been there? I have. You must see with your own eyes to understand. Safavids: "founded by Kurdish sheikhs" and the same Kurds where also who installed Shia Islam there. The opposite to Ottoman Empire where a Kurds installed sunni Islam. Kurdish creator of Safavid dynasty Ismail I installed Shia Islam to the east. While Kurdish Jabān al-Kurdī who was one of few of the profet Mohammed apprentices installed sunni Islam on Ottoman areas. Guess why the saying is still for the Kurds today: "No friends but the mountains". Zagros area is where Kurds come from, even mentioned by the Sumerians about them in Zagros.
@-_whysoserious_-
@-_whysoserious_- 10 месяцев назад
@@tigersaid9156 And mountain Zagros was the living place of ancient tribe named "Turukkies or Turkies" ,the main proof of that the clay tablets found in ancient city - Mari.
@primalforlorn
@primalforlorn 2 года назад
When the Ottoman declared themselves the Kaisar of Rum, they inherited the curse of Roman, which would plunge them into eternal wars with Persia and die at hand of foreign powers when they were exhausted from war.
@hamarta1006
@hamarta1006 2 года назад
Wow, this is quite shocking
@oghuzkhan5117
@oghuzkhan5117 2 года назад
hahaha. who is teaching you people history? There was no persia , the safavid is Turkish empire. The creator Shah Ismail is Anatolian Turk but he was from the Shia branch of islam.
@elemparador
@elemparador 2 года назад
@@oghuzkhan5117 no same Empire with different name safavid is not Turkish
@bodatotalitarian7278
@bodatotalitarian7278 2 года назад
@@oghuzkhan5117 Ismail was from a Kurdish sufi clan with intermarriage between turkmen Turkish are basically turkified greeks anyways kek
@oghuzkhan5117
@oghuzkhan5117 2 года назад
@@bodatotalitarian7278 haha another one without history and trying to steal Turkish history 😂😂😂
@mehdi60888
@mehdi60888 2 года назад
Some part of history missed here; when sulyman captured Iraq region from Persia, roughly a decade later Abbas I , king of Persia, recaptured Baghdad and Iraq, however Persia lost Iraq again 20 years later.
@illyrianmc9169
@illyrianmc9169 2 года назад
Sulejman give Baghdad to Persia because they send back his son Bayazid in ottoman empire.
@umerrashid4940
@umerrashid4940 2 года назад
Ottomans ensured that Shah Ismail Safavi, an ethnic Turk himself, converted Iran from Sunni to Shia so that Persian intellectual challange to the Ottoman Caliphate did not rise.
@mehdi60888
@mehdi60888 2 года назад
@@illyrianmc9169 Ottomans lost Baghdad into a battle, it was after suleyman
@illyrianmc9169
@illyrianmc9169 2 года назад
@@mehdi60888 no sulejman give Baghdad to Persian without war they took back his son Bayazid. And in 1600 years Murd the lV captured it again
@illyrianmc9169
@illyrianmc9169 2 года назад
@@mehdi60888 tell me which soultan lost it. And why the persian kking give his son back to ottomans the Bayazid prince
@massoudzahedi
@massoudzahedi Год назад
Very intresting👍
@Mohamedmerwany3rd
@Mohamedmerwany3rd 10 месяцев назад
This channel is great
@rosenbaum6976
@rosenbaum6976 2 года назад
The ottoman not conquering Iran is basically history repeating itself
@iraqi3150
@iraqi3150 2 года назад
😱😱😱😱😱😱
@iraqi3150
@iraqi3150 2 года назад
😢😡😔😔😔
@iraqi3150
@iraqi3150 2 года назад
At least they are Muslims
@ikkai2354
@ikkai2354 2 года назад
@@iraqi3150 ??????????????????????
@iraqi3150
@iraqi3150 2 года назад
@@ikkai2354 😁👍
@IDBTitanosaurus
@IDBTitanosaurus 2 года назад
Why didn't the Ottoman's conquer Persia? TLDR: The Zagros Mountains. /video.
@FreedomPuppy
@FreedomPuppy 2 года назад
Thanks
@jacobbernard1393
@jacobbernard1393 2 года назад
That was my immediate first guess.
@user-si3gu8pm6j
@user-si3gu8pm6j 2 года назад
Q: (x) political issue? A: geography (99% of the time)
@Galaick
@Galaick 2 года назад
Another viable answer: It wasn't worth the trouble
@ASh-oe9hm
@ASh-oe9hm 2 года назад
@@Galaick better answer is they couldn't do that
@elnazhajebi2836
@elnazhajebi2836 10 месяцев назад
As an iranian i appreciate the unbiased content.well presented.
@tigersaid9156
@tigersaid9156 10 месяцев назад
Did you know that Safavids: "founded by Kurdish sheikhs" and the same Kurds where also who installed Shia Islam there under their rule. The opposite happened to Ottoman Empire where a Kurds installed sunni Islam. Kurdish creator of Safavid dynasty Ismail I installed Shia Islam to the east. While Kurdish Jabān al-Kurdī who was one of few of the profet Mohammed apprentices installed sunni Islam on Ottoman areas.
@hydradragonantivirus
@hydradragonantivirus 10 месяцев назад
​@@tigersaid9156Nah.
@mmd_ra
@mmd_ra 4 месяца назад
everybody is kurd yes ​@@tigersaid9156
@rafforjly
@rafforjly 20 дней назад
The Safavid State is a Turkish state. It is a brother to the Ottomans.
@Pentagram_edits
@Pentagram_edits 20 дней назад
iranian turks are no brother to roman​ born anatolians@@rafforjly
@awibs57
@awibs57 Год назад
I'm grateful that you've made this, but it's starting to get me how you're saying my family's name. With all friendliness, may I please send you a recording of how to pronounce Safavi for future videos?
@hammedmousavi2297
@hammedmousavi2297 Месяц назад
in English it's pronounced differently.
@ishmamahmed9306
@ishmamahmed9306 2 года назад
Galaxy brain take: The Ottoman-Persian wars were merely a new iteration of the Roman-Persian wars
@edrickhuge4637
@edrickhuge4637 2 года назад
well it's very true. The Ottman empier was controlling literally the same amouth of land.
@hannibalbarca2928
@hannibalbarca2928 2 года назад
Ishmam Ahmed The Ottomans and the Persians never fought. The Ottomans fought against the Safavids, another Turk dynasty, and the reason for the war was the Shiite-Sunni war.
@anomaly5734
@anomaly5734 2 года назад
@@hannibalbarca2928 safavids are azeri not turk
@oghuzkhan5117
@oghuzkhan5117 2 года назад
Well you not-so-smart-hooman 1-There was no Persia 2-The Ottoman fought against Safavid. Both Turkic countries
@ishmamahmed9306
@ishmamahmed9306 2 года назад
I make a joke statement that nobody was meant to take seriously and two people put in time to make "well, actually" statements. All this yappity-yap about the ethnic origins of the Safavids yet funnily enough nobody has yet to point out that the House of Osman were not Romans.............
@sergiodma
@sergiodma 2 года назад
It's not "Airan" but "Eeran". That's how Iran is pronounced.
@starwreck
@starwreck 2 года назад
we speak english not farsi we dont care how it is pronounced in farsi
@user-yy5di3qg5u
@user-yy5di3qg5u 2 года назад
​@@starwreck In English you don't say "Aitaly" instead of "Italy" (maybe you personally do, I don't know). And modern English language is a mess (to the vowels - thanks Great Vowel Shift).
@sergiodma
@sergiodma 2 года назад
@@starwreck I'm talking about English! Go and look it up.
@Daniel-lr6yz
@Daniel-lr6yz 2 года назад
@@starwreck I know many English speakers who pronounce it the proper way, and not the retarded way.
@docmurky
@docmurky 2 года назад
@@starwreck As someone who actually lives in England, i can confirm that we dont pronounce it as 'Airan' lol dont talk about 'we don't care how its pronunced in Farsi' when actual English speakers in England say it the right way lol just stop it
@Pahlevon_Zeus
@Pahlevon_Zeus 10 месяцев назад
as a iranian thank for making that video
@tomislavpetrov1179
@tomislavpetrov1179 3 месяца назад
The Battle of Chaldiran took place on 23 August 1514 and ended with a decisive victory for the Sunni Islamic Ottoman Empire over the Shia Islamic Safavid Empire. As a result, the Ottomans annexed Eastern Anatolia and northern Iraq from Safavid Iran. Ottoman-Safavid War (1532-1555) was the Ottoman victory over the Safavids. Ottomans gain large parts of Mesopotamia (Iraq), Western Iraq, Western Armenia, and Western Georgia. ... Ottoman-Safavid war (1603-1612) was the Safavids' victory over the Ottomans. Safavids regained control over the territories ceded in 1590 to the Ottomans; Azerbaijan, Georgia, Erivan Province, Daghestan, Shirvan, Karabakh, Lorestan, and Khuzestan. Ottoman-Safavid War (1623-1639) was the Ottoman victory over Safavids that resulted in the recognition of Ottoman control of Iraq.
@TurquazCannabiz
@TurquazCannabiz 2 года назад
History Matters: "Why didn't the Ottomans colonize America?" Knowledgia: "Why didn't the Ottomans conquer Persia and Italy?" My brain: "Why didn't the Galactic Ottoman Empire conquer the universe?"
@amarjeetsehmi8995
@amarjeetsehmi8995 2 года назад
Ottomans of Persia or Iskandar all collapsed with neglect of people, their education and progressive management and latest being terror win in Afghanistan killing for 20 years and making people leave country in thousands who were most educated and politically aware.
@Nomadicenjoyer31
@Nomadicenjoyer31 2 года назад
🐦
@lambert801
@lambert801 2 года назад
Seriously. Ottomans are so overrated.
@casper_z1259
@casper_z1259 2 года назад
The colonize America got me like "bruh!". You know who doesn't have an Atlantic coastline? Ottomans. You know who controls the straights of Gibraltar, Spain. You know who hates each other?...
@michaelthomas5433
@michaelthomas5433 2 года назад
Because of the Ultimate Nullifier of course. It always stops things 'Galactic'.
@belalabusultan5911
@belalabusultan5911 Год назад
so in conclusion, two reasons: 1- Persia was strong itself. 2- the terrain is just impossible, like modern-day Afghanistan, where 3rd rate warlords defeated both Soviets and USA.
@samloll2488
@samloll2488 10 месяцев назад
And Britain too before them
@jamilshekinski
@jamilshekinski 7 месяцев назад
it wasn't Persia, but Azerbaijanis who ruled that land for many centuries.
@VisotCL
@VisotCL 7 месяцев назад
@@jamilshekinskiShia
@AGHaxio
@AGHaxio 6 месяцев назад
​@@jamilshekinski lol So the empires back then called Azerbaijan?? Ahhhhhhh Waitt Why I can't find it anywhere
@xedaslopes3975
@xedaslopes3975 3 месяца назад
With a lot of foreign support in the soviet case and in the usa just by being a endless mess so that is not really a correct statement, just check how many soviets died in the war and compare it to the afghan deaths
@saeedasl8025
@saeedasl8025 24 дня назад
Greetings from Tabriz, Iran. And please pronounce it right. It is EERÂN, not EYERAN.
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad 11 месяцев назад
By the end of the tenth century, with the Qarākhānid Turks conquering Sāmānid Central Asia and ushering in a millennium of Turkic rule across Iran and much of the Islamic World, the dynamic of the frontier had changed qualitatively. The Eastern Frontier: Limits of Empire in Late Antique and Early Medieval Central Asia (Early and Medieval Islamic World) Hardcover - June 27, 2019
@serdarcite
@serdarcite 2 года назад
I guess Anatolian and Iranian empires are destined to fight each other as it has happened many times throughout history
@neemapaxima6116
@neemapaxima6116 2 года назад
They mainly fought over Armenia and Mesopotamia
@louisxiv3850
@louisxiv3850 2 года назад
Even anatolian seljuk split from persian seljuks
@monarchistheadcrab8819
@monarchistheadcrab8819 2 года назад
History repeats itself I assume...just look at the situation between Iran and Turkey right now.
@Mohseniranparast
@Mohseniranparast 2 года назад
we fight together and jews and zionists and american pailed rulers enjoy
@arshiaarjomandi6279
@arshiaarjomandi6279 2 года назад
@@monarchistheadcrab8819 we aren't fighting very much at the moment
@rodbahrami4273
@rodbahrami4273 2 года назад
Iran is the older name of the region. the name goes back to 4000 years ago way before Persia.
@anak5183
@anak5183 2 года назад
The name was first found in the writing of Kkng Darius.
@eonthinker100yrago8
@eonthinker100yrago8 Год назад
@@anak5183 it means land of aryans
@bernard3303
@bernard3303 10 месяцев назад
Take note that this aryan, used in iran and indian subcontinent is different from the one regularly used in europe. aryan means someone noble in character and is what indians and iranians would call themselves without a racist component
@paprikaman1124
@paprikaman1124 10 месяцев назад
​@@bernard3303aria was a country in Eastern Iran in the ancient world
@etolqa66
@etolqa66 8 дней назад
Ama yönetenler 1000 yıldır Türk ;)
@jonlee2722
@jonlee2722 Год назад
10:29To Ottoman: difficult journey, difficult terrain to cross for large armies, constant conflicts with European nations, internal revolts, lack of resources needed for long campaigns. To Persia: the military capabilities of Persia.
@averagephonkenjoyer7021
@averagephonkenjoyer7021 11 месяцев назад
Some have less some have more problems. It was often a back and forth in history.
@sanjanaopal4178
@sanjanaopal4178 Год назад
Excellent history I love older history I got good history 🙏🏻❤
@nathanielmartins5930
@nathanielmartins5930 2 года назад
They had a back and forth with the Safavids for a while in Iraq, but after an Ottoman reclamation of land, they decided it was time to stop beating around the bush and end an obviously not working relationship, they had a seating, finalised their boundaries, and agreed to never cross them again.
@jacobjonm0511
@jacobjonm0511 Год назад
Nadir Shah took Iraq back from the Ottomans, but he traded it with Cacasus.
@AhsanKhan-bi3qu
@AhsanKhan-bi3qu 2 месяца назад
@@jacobjonm0511😂😂just for four year
@jacobjonm0511
@jacobjonm0511 2 месяца назад
@@AhsanKhan-bi3qu As I said he traded it with Caucasus. Learn to read 😁
@likklej8
@likklej8 2 года назад
The train journey through the mountains and the crossing of Lake Van into Iran was great. Travelled to Tehran in early 70s in Feb /March snow on the mountains and desert.
@MrB00mbang
@MrB00mbang 2 года назад
Cool tell us more!
@johndewey6358
@johndewey6358 10 месяцев назад
You may want to add a few updates to the video: 1. Iranians have always (since 2500 years ago) called the country Iran, not Persia. It is foreigners who insist on calling it by the wrong name Persia, so Iranians formally registered the country as Iran in 1935 so others would stop calling it Persia. Persia only one of States in Iran. In the example of US, do we call USA, New York? Of course not! 2. Also Iran is not pronounced how you pronounce (I Ran!), the correct pronunciation is EErAAn. The correct pronunciation is not "I Ran" or "A Run". Iran means land of Aryans. But the term Aryan does not have the Nazi connotations that since 1940s the world has associated the German Nazis. Although, several thousand years ago, Iranian tribes lived on Danube near where today is eastern German. Over the millennia Iranians went east and first settled in where today in Ukraine and southern Russia and you probably know the rest.. Iranian tribes settled in current Iranian geography are not native to that land. 3. Remember that the Eastern Roman Empire where the Country of Turkey is located at, was at war with Iran for about 800 years which exhausted both Iran and Eastern Roman Empire and weakened their economies and populations to the extend that when Arab hordes attacked Iran (7th century) it took the Arabs 200 years to impose their religion on Iran. 4. The weakened Eastern Roman empire was also exhausted and became ripe for invasion by Central Asian Turkic tribes and the Arabs that the Turks had conquered.. 5. Iran has a very difficult geography and Iranians can defend that territory pretty well, with a few devastating exceptions. Even with today's techno based militaries it will bleed a foreign invader. 6. Monday night quarter backing: It would have been advantageous for both Eastern Roman Empire and Iranians to settle their issues after over 700 years of fighting diplomatically so neither would be invaded by non-European armies. If that had happens, I doubt if the Mongols could have defeated the Sassanid militaries of Iran, or the Seljuks ....
@freepagan
@freepagan 10 месяцев назад
Iranians weren't German, nor were they the original Aryans or Indo-Europeans. The original Indo-Europeans were from the Eurasian Steppes, and it took them a long time before reaching Iran. Iranians are a mixture of various people. Of course they were made better when they got mixed with the Indo-Europeans.
@johndewey6358
@johndewey6358 10 месяцев назад
@@freepagan You may want to take this up with Archeological, Linguistic Anthropologist & Genetics specialists and history professors. None of what you claim is supported. PS. I never claimed that Iranians are Germans (that is what you said).
@sabahalhushkizi4192
@sabahalhushkizi4192 10 месяцев назад
A question what can u tell abt so called kurdish?
@mezro4283
@mezro4283 9 месяцев назад
@@sabahalhushkizi4192Iran made buy group of people one of the main one are Kurd , Iran is belong to Kurd people and Kurdistan is belong to Iran
@dannyc2488
@dannyc2488 8 месяцев назад
2. Only yanks call it EYE-ran. İn Britain we say EE-ran
@Realite58
@Realite58 Год назад
Ottoman vs. Safavid = Turk vs Turk.
@farhadmehransetad5610
@farhadmehransetad5610 7 дней назад
Safavid Kurdish from Safi din mazandarani gilani and Greece and azri not turk
@coreyjafari4760
@coreyjafari4760 6 дней назад
You wish 😂😂 the Ottomas were not really Turkish neither were the Safavids
@zitka123
@zitka123 2 дня назад
Ismail Shah had Kurd-Turk origin
@akiamini4006
@akiamini4006 2 года назад
Trully appriciate the effort pal ! You see as ppl down the comment section said the religious and the political heart of the persian emipre was Tabriz and the order was first found in my city Ardabil ... the most of the pop was centered in north western part which were shiate Azari and since the morale and the terrain as you said were considerable so it came to be the written history of today
@ashrunzeda4099
@ashrunzeda4099 2 года назад
5:13 - 5:14 So that's why I frequently see an AI Ottoman allying with France during my EU4 playthroughs.
@windwaker105
@windwaker105 2 года назад
I prefer to play as France and the Ottomans make a good ally until I run out of rivals and have to rival them
@OljeiKhan
@OljeiKhan 2 года назад
@@windwaker105 the rival mechanics are soooooooo dumb. You got so strong that no one can be considered your rival? You now have zero power projection kekw
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 2 года назад
@@OljeiKhan dumb, yes however when you get to that point of no possible rivals you don’t need the power projection reward for extra tension that rivaling gives. Although other ways of getting power projection would be sweet, such as bullying others for a quick injection of power projection (dominating others in the area, pushing out soft power, while annoying everyone). Maybe an alternate AE gain for an area that you are done taking land in for the time/have no interest in controling Would model plenty of the big powers of the time pushing others around without war and the like
@RubyDoobieScoo
@RubyDoobieScoo 2 года назад
@@gideonmele1556 or if they let you rival coalitions. That said, EU4 mechanics are so reliably predictable that you should never involuntarily have a coalition against you if you're playing properly.
@strider8662
@strider8662 2 года назад
Historically France was one of the Ottoman's most common allies in Europe, so it makes sense that ai does that.
@romaelebi
@romaelebi 10 месяцев назад
Hello. On this topic, get acquainted with the Turkish and Persian sources about the Georgian royal principalities in this era. Because in the current events between these two empires, one of the most important roles was assigned to the Georgian kingdoms in the East and they actively interfered in the current events in the region.
@abdollahmoossavi1397
@abdollahmoossavi1397 10 месяцев назад
First thing first: the pronunciation of Iran is" /ɪˈɹɑːn/" and not" /aiˈɹɑːn/". Second: inhabitants of Iran from the time of Achemindas throughout history called their country "Iran ", not "Perse or Persia".This has been mentioned in inscriptions dating to 2500 years back up to modern times in books. The name" Persia" was given to this country by the Greeks and remained the same for Western countries till the 1930s when Iran formally declared to other countries that its ancient name "Iran" was the genuine and correct one. Perse and afterward Perias, a colloquial type of word "Pars" used by Greeks, is the name of the homeland of the Acheminedas dynasty and a small part of their empire that now is a province of Iran.
@evidemment14
@evidemment14 17 дней назад
Why do you call your language Farsi?
@nimash6273
@nimash6273 2 года назад
The reason Persians were defeated in the first couple of battles was that they still fought with swords, lances, and bows, whilst Ottomans had artillery from the begining, until England sent Sir William and Sir Robert Shirley to Persia to give Persians the technology to make guns and canons, in order to keep Ottomans from advancing in Europe. After Persians had Artillery they managed to retake their own territories and the balance was more or less maintained.
@gojira4036
@gojira4036 2 года назад
*Persian instability go brrrrr* *40 different Persian dynasties go brr*
@michaelweston409
@michaelweston409 2 года назад
History changed
@yan8964
@yan8964 2 года назад
dude what are you talking about first use of canons and riffles was in central asia aka persia before even Europeans got to see gun powder
@berkzyhd
@berkzyhd 2 года назад
nice try with the non factual excuse Ottomans were always tough and brave thats why you lost fyi also persians had guns and cannons too geez your teachers lie so much to try and make yourselves feel better lol Just Sparta alone was fending off the persian empire imagine if Greece united and went to persia yall be gonnneeee
@gojira4036
@gojira4036 2 года назад
@@berkzyhd Fun fact: Guns and canons were not invented during the time of the first Persian empire nor the Spartans, and Sparta wasnt conquered because the Persians had 30 other rebellious ethnic groups to deal with. Also the ottomans were more stable than Persia and would have easily lost to a stable Persian Dynasty not dealing with 20 different revolts, the Ottomans overall were able to outlast 4 different Persian dynasties which all had different styles of ruling.
@silveryuno
@silveryuno 2 года назад
Ancient Romans: Spent centuries trying to conquer Persia? Ottomans: Evet... Ancient Romans: You truly are the Heirs of Rome!
@Emilechen
@Emilechen 2 года назад
some pretend that Ottoman be the heir of Roman Empire or the Huns/Gokturk, two empires far away, but in reality, Turkey is more exactly the heir of Anatolia people, Hatti and Hittie legacy,
@dronur6194
@dronur6194 2 года назад
@@Emilechen yes.. 👍 Turkey = Ottoman Empire
@omerfarukarslan4746
@omerfarukarslan4746 2 года назад
@@Emilechen WTF
@Emilechen
@Emilechen 2 года назад
@@dronur6194 so Anatolian History local nations = Hatti, Hittite, Lydia, ..., Seldjukide, Ottaman and finally Turkey, i think that Turkey is more legitimate to claim legacy of ancient Anatolian civilization legacy,
@DirtyThug1
@DirtyThug1 2 года назад
@@dronur6194 Mongolia*
@baddbeliever
@baddbeliever 10 месяцев назад
some corrections: 1) it wasn't modern day turkey but modern day iraq 2) it wasn't a secession dispute but a succession dispute
@vermicelledecheval5219
@vermicelledecheval5219 Год назад
Darius didn't wanted to apply scortched earth policy against A3. The Safavids learned the lesson.
@abasmalekiii381
@abasmalekiii381 2 года назад
Throughout history, the Persians had powerful empires such as the Achaemenids, Sassanids, Samanids,
@ahmedkeremsayar
@ahmedkeremsayar 2 года назад
as turks from huns to first gokturk khanate to seljuks to timurids to mughals to ottomans.
@Original_BrosTV
@Original_BrosTV 2 года назад
@@ahmedkeremsayar Timurids saw (Timur) saw himself more a Mongolian than a real turk, in a personal letter to Beyezid, he even made fun of the Turks, for not being able to govern at all. I can send you the Quote if you want.
@stuntboyshourov2752
@stuntboyshourov2752 2 года назад
Sassanids were totally consumed by Rashiduns. It’s hard to imagine that Arabs were so powerful at a time.
@ahmedkeremsayar
@ahmedkeremsayar 2 года назад
@@Original_BrosTV Calling Timur a Mongol is like calling II.Mehmed a Latin or Greek because he claimed to be “Caesar of Rome”. Calling him Persian or Mongol is a great historical crime. Please don’t do that. If you visit Uzbekistan, his homeland, you will face very bad reactions if you say that. He even insulted Bayezid’s Turkness in his letters. He said Ottoman soldiers were “devshirme slaves” (probably referring to Janissaries) and his soldiers were real Turks and would win.
@abasmalekiii381
@abasmalekiii381 2 года назад
@@stuntboyshourov2752 The Sassanids ruled for more than four hundred years and were one of the most powerful empires of that period. The reason for the Arab victory over the Sassanids was due to the weakening of the Sassanids over time.
@sarv8463
@sarv8463 2 года назад
Ottomans were the immigrant successors of Selçuk Empire which was established in Iran...so they came to Iran first from central Asia then moved to Anatolia after Manizgert battle which led to the huge loss of East Roman empire...they always considered Iran as their ancestors land and had enough respect for it... that's why Persian language was the second language in the empire of Turkish and today people of turkey still use many Persian words in their language...
@Yazdegerdiranyar
@Yazdegerdiranyar Год назад
I appreciate your deep knowledge bro 👏 from Azarbaijan of Iran 💚🤍♥️
@ramtin5152
@ramtin5152 Год назад
Actually the Persian language was the court and official language and lingua franca of Turkish empires that were established in Iran But most of them had turkish as their military language and all Turkish was their mother tongue I appreciate your knowledge 🙏 Love from Iran's Mazandaran 💚🤍❤️
@mezro4283
@mezro4283 9 месяцев назад
You are right but Salcuk become Iranian ,the way they rule , their culture and everything else like their lunguage was exactly like other Iranian as Iranian don’t think they was foreign they believe they are Iranian who was go to Anatolia and later on become ottoman are totally separate from who stay in Iran , many of them fight for Iran when war start between Iran and ottoman’s
@sarv8463
@sarv8463 9 месяцев назад
@@mezro4283 A while after Seljuks conquered Anatolia, they divided themselves from Iranian Seljuks and didn’t take command from them no more as they established an independent state by the name of Seljuks of Rome…their United States collapsed a while before Teimur attacked the Anatolia…after the collapse of Roman Seljuks Anatolia divided into a few smaller states and one of them were ottomans the only state could last against Teimur although they had to leave their sultan in Teimur captivity…so ottomans were a part of Roman Seljuks which came from Iran to Anatolia…
@mahmutakbaba2802
@mahmutakbaba2802 Год назад
Fun fact: Both countries are rivals, yesterday and today. Both appreciate each other as a strong nation. And most important, both need the other country to be intact and functional for their political interests and safety 😉
@nein236
@nein236 Год назад
And the population of both isn’t really intelligent.
@Revo_MRZ
@Revo_MRZ Год назад
Safavid Turks
@yarsaz4347
@yarsaz4347 7 месяцев назад
​@@Revo_MRZ No the founder of the Safavid order was Kurdish mystic Safi-ad-din Ardabili. Iran has many different ethnic groups but Persian has always been the state language and Safavid Iran was no different.
@Revo_MRZ
@Revo_MRZ 7 месяцев назад
@@yarsaz4347 An important aspect of this study is that in Ottoman historiography, the established views about the Battle of Çaldıran are being questioned. The assessment of the Venetian traveler, Giovanni Maria Angiolelloa, have to be taken into consideration. The Venetian traveler says: "If the Kurds did not call, the great turk Yavuz Sultan Selim would never dare to attack Shah Ismail." This statement required the examination of Shah İsmail, Yavuz Sultan Selim, Kürdler / Kurdistan relations at that time. Shah Ismail, in 1501, destroyed the Akkoyunlu State, took over Tabriz, the Safavids rule was established in Iran, the Twelve Imam Shia Sects were declared the official sect. Shah Ismail seized the lands of Sunni Uzbeks in the East, and dominated a wide area from the Caucasus Mountains in the North to the Persian Gulf in the South. Safavid's border with the Mamluks was the Euphrates River from South to North. Bilecik, Urfa, Harput, Erzincan, Çemişgezek (wide Dersim Region) came under Safavid rule. Safavids became neighbors with the Ottoman State in the west of Sivas, Amasya and Tokat. All this shows that most of Kurdistan is under the control of Safavids. Safavid administration and Shah Ismail do not treat the Kurds at all. For example;Shah Ismail invited the Kurdish tribal chiefs to the palace, arrested them and put them in jail. He used to exile some tribal chiefs to different corners of Iran. Nawşirwan Mustafa Emin explains the purpose of Shah Ismail in 3 points in his book "Kurd û Ecem": 1 To take the Myrs in the hands of the Kurdish Myrs, to move them away from their regions and to replace them with the Kızılbaş Turks, 2 Forcing Sunni Kurds to change sects, 3 To exert violence against the leaders, the people and the Kurds who protected their power at that time during the Akkoyunlu state… Nawşirwan Mustafa gives 3 Kurdish Myrs as examples: Çemişgezek Spell Hacı Rüstem Bey, Shah Rüstemi Lor and Zahir Bey Hakkari etc… Meanwhile, as it is known, Shah Ismail drove his military forces under the command of Nuri Ali Khalifa Rumlu, against Erzincan and especially Çemişgezek people, and put Han Muhammedhan Ustaclu against Diyarbekir Kurds. After Nuri Ali Khalifa Rumlu invaded the region, he carried out massacres against the Kurds in the region and sent the leaders of Çemişgezek to Ecem Iraq, including Mîr Hacî Rûstem. Of course, Mîr Hacî Rûstem and his accompanying people go to Xoy and inform Shah Ismail about their loyalty in order to return to their former power. However, Shah Ismail places Mîr Hacî Rûstem in another area, not to return to Kurdistan, depending on his existing policy against the Kurdish Myrs. Prior to the Battle of Çaldıran, Shah Ismail was liquidating the Kurdistan Myrs and deploying Turkmen (not Alevi Kurds) instead. For example, Turkmen officials assign the head of Kurdish cities such as Maraş, Hasankef, Diyarbekir, Erzincan, Kemah, Kiği, Erzincan etc. These assignments do not take place peacefully, but as a result of war and massacres. Bey of Hesenkêf fortress Mîr Mîr Xelil Eyyubi, one of the lords of Kurdistan, before the Çaldıran War, want to go to the city of Xoy with great gifts and report their loyalty to Shah Ismail. As it is known, although the dignity of Kurdish Eyyubi lost throughout the Middle East, Hesenkêf continued as the last fortress of the Ayyubids. Mîr Xelîl Eyyubî was the brother-in-law of Shah Ismail (he was married to his sister). Except one or two of the myrs, all of them who went to report their loyalty to Shah Ismail were arrested and replaced by Qızılbash Turks. Mîr Xelil is in prison in Tabriz for 3 years and then runs away. A number of Kurdish circles are able to carry out hollow and unrealistic analyzes by ignoring the Safavids' massacres in Kurdistan, Safavids policies and practices to purify Kurdistan from the Kurds and bring Azeri Turks and Turkmens to their place. In the face of this attitude of Shah Ismail and Safavids, seeking help from the Ottoman Empire was born as a serious thought among the Kurdish tribes.
@Revo_MRZ
@Revo_MRZ 7 месяцев назад
@@yarsaz4347 This is how the Kurdish tribes introduced the Idris-i Bitlisi and did invite the Ottomans to the war against Shah Ismail. İdris-i Bitlisi was a bureaucrat that served Uzun Hasan and Saraya during the Akkoyunlular period. The father of İdris-i Bitlisi also served Akkoyunlu people. Reports were frequently sent to the Ottoman Palace about Shah Ismail's banning Sunni in Kurdistan, inviting the Kurds to Shiite. The number of these reports were increasing. The content of the reports was also getting heavier. Shah Ismail's anti-Ottoman and pro-Shiite policies in the Ottoman country were the main topics that were mentioned in these reports. Safavids ended the power of the overwhelming majority of the Kurdish Mirians in Kurdistan for decades before Yavuz Sultan Selim took power in 1512 and the Kurds of Îdrîsî Bedlîs took the alliance with the Ottomans. Yavuz Sultan Selim sat on the throne in 1512. İn 23 May 1512. Yavuz, as soon as he sits on the throne, is considering a trip to Hungary. The notables of the palace, viziers, commanders are also in favor of expedition to Hungary. However, the frequent application of the Kurds to the palace, the invitation of Yavuz Sultan Selim to Shah İsmail, leaves Yavuz in a privileged position. After all, the Kurds convince Yavuz. Although the commanders and viziers are eyebrows, a war decision is taken against Shah Ismail and Safavids. Source: 1 The book of Murad Ciwan (Kurdish) named "The Ottomans, Safavids and Kurds in the Battle of Chaldiran" 2 The book of Nawşirwan Mustafa Emin (Kurdish) named "Kurd û Ecem" 3 zagrosname.com/sah-abbasin-mukri-kuerdlere-karsi-katliamiek-1-cemisgezek.html (Kurdish site)
@Nomadicenjoyer31
@Nomadicenjoyer31 Год назад
In contrast to those Iranian officials who claim that the Turks in Iran were actually originally Persians, the late IRGC Commander Qassem Suleimani claimed that the descendants of Turkic dynasties that live in Iran are not Iranian. Suleimani claimed: "Turks are aliens and non-Iranians. For hundreds of years (during Turkic rule in Iran), Iran had no history. Non- Iranians like the Seljuks invaded and ruled Iran."74 Shaffer, B. (2023) Iran is more than persia: Ethnic politics in Iran. Berlin: De Gruyter.
@bigdaddyeddy1252
@bigdaddyeddy1252 Год назад
There are no turks in today’s Turkey. Only 3% of the turkish population is of turkic descent. Who are you trying to fool with your alternative history bs.
@cyrusthegreat982
@cyrusthegreat982 2 года назад
shah abbas was the greatest safavid shah. The real nightmare of the Ottomans. Would have loved seeing him mentioned in this video.
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 2 года назад
Shah Abbas the Great won more battle against the Ottoman than all Ottoman rulers did vs Iran
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 2 года назад
Shah Abbas won more battle against the Ottoman than Ottoman rulers did vs Iran Shah Abbas the Great won like 7 battle vs Ottoman alone some of the best Ottoman rulers didn’t even won 5 battle all there life 🤣🤣🤣 Shah Abbas the Great and Shah Ismail >>> all Ottoman history
@Ardavan_Ashknani
@Ardavan_Ashknani 2 года назад
@@yaqubleis6311 They don't want to show how great Persia was and it best shahs like shapur the second and shah Abbas and nader shah and many more.
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 2 года назад
@Mohammed Alzahrani 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 1000 years ??? NAME the dynasties kid
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 2 года назад
@Mohammed Alzahrani kid 😂😂😂😂🤣 Safavids were Iranic origin descendent of Firuz-Shah Zarrin-Kolah they were Iranic origin
@projjwalray-6341
@projjwalray-6341 2 года назад
A very well made and informative video. The only thing that kept bothering me was "Iran" being pronounced as 'eye-ran' instead of 'ee-ran'.
@mustafayldrm3449
@mustafayldrm3449 10 месяцев назад
The question is why would they? They came to Anatolia passing through that land. Ottomans were a Balkan Empire, decided from the beginning. (And Iran was a Turkic county for a long time, but this is another story)
@s.a.8618
@s.a.8618 5 месяцев назад
Topography was not the main reason. The Iranian empire's strength was the main factor. For instance, at the end of the Safavid Empire when Iran was in chaos and Afghans occupied the Iranian capital (Isfahan) the Ottomans captured a large chunk of Western Iran and Eastern Iraq which was under the control of Safavids. Nader Shah later dealt Ottomans a decisive defeat and later on even the Qajar dynasty defeated them when they were not at the height of their power. All along its long history, Iran has been either very powerful with substantial influence in the region and beyond or it was occupied by the foreigners when the central government was weak.; there was no middle ground due to its strategic location in the world. It was not just Ottomans that were stopped at the border of Iran, Romans also tried very hard to conquer Iran or at least annex part of it but they failed because at that time powerful dynasties (Parthian and Sassanian) were in power.
@hammedmousavi2297
@hammedmousavi2297 Месяц назад
exactly.
@postachamdi6286
@postachamdi6286 Месяц назад
Its not true. Ottoman sultan Yavux Sultan Selim went on iran (before the battle of chaldiran) and invited shah ismail to an open battle, even sent him a woman dress because shah ismail avoided to battle with ottomans. While ottoman army was roaming inside iran. And the three main reasons are: Geography, Distance and Iran's behavior. Iran was waiting for ottoman army to leave iran and come back to turkey, then taking back cities which ottoman was captured.
@s.a.8618
@s.a.8618 Месяц назад
@@postachamdi6286 You are referring to one particular battle, Battle of Chaldean. At that time Ottomans were at the peak of their power and Shah Ismail initially managed to reach Ottomans camp but because Iranian army didn’t have cannon, they lost. Safavid, Afsharid and Qajar all fought Ottomans and the number of times that each side won is equal. But Ottomans were decisively defeated by Nader Shah despite the fact that Ottomans Army was numerically twice the size of Nader Shah army. Nader Shah never lost a major battle neither to Ottomans, Uzbeks, Mogul Empire, Afghans or else. Russians withdrew from Iranian territory after they realized they can’t defeat Nader Shah. He was a military genius. Shah Abbas also dealt a decisive defeat to Ottomans.
@s.a.8618
@s.a.8618 Месяц назад
@@postachamdi6286 What kind of logic is it? Ottomans captured territories in Eastern Europe, Balkan and Middle East and could hold those territories because their army were crushed and couldn’t resist anymore. The fact that Ottomans couldn’t hold Iranian territories was because Iran army wasn’t crushed and would come back. This is called strategic thinking and is part of war. Besides Iranian army had many head on battles with the Ottomans main Army and defeated them, some won some lost. But Iran’s ability to defeat Ottomans encouraged Europeans to seek alliances with Safavid dynasty and help to train Iranian artillery.
@s.a.8618
@s.a.8618 Месяц назад
@@postachamdi6286 Topal Osman Pasha, the famous Ottoman general, head of main Ottoman Army lost his life in the battle of Kirkuk in 1733 against Nader Shah. He initially defeated Nader’s army in first stage of battle but Nader changed tactics and won decisively. The point is that neither Romans nor Ottomans who conquered many territories in Asia, Europe and Africa at the peak of their power succeeded to conquer Iran and advance Eastward. If it was only due to rugged terrain then Alexander of Macedonia, Arabs or Mongols must have not conquered Iran as well. They managed to take over because Iranian Empires at those time were engaging at internal rivalry and wars. Remember Iran is much older than Turkey and the first Empire in true sense was established by Iranians, Achemenian Empire.
@teemo9686
@teemo9686 2 года назад
Nice friday content. Thank you 👍
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha 2 года назад
From what I understand, the Ottomans and Persians fought various wars threw out the centuries until the 1900s roughly. While the Ottomans won more, it's not by much and it ends up being a near tie. They just finally agree on a border and that is about it. Russia, on the other hand, pretty much dominated both of them.
@arashsa711
@arashsa711 2 года назад
They fought 10 wars, each won 5
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha 2 года назад
@@arashsa711 in the end it comes down to one battle Battle of Chaldiran Also in my Alternative World History, I add at least the 7 years war as well in which Ottoman goes with Britain and Persia with France. Considering that, you know how it can turn out :)
@the3zoooz1
@the3zoooz1 2 года назад
russia fell before the ottomans
@aa-up4sf
@aa-up4sf 2 года назад
Russia has dominated everyone at some point or another except Britain and the US.
@arolemaprarath6615
@arolemaprarath6615 2 года назад
@@KangaKucha I agree. Like the Byzantine Greeks and the Sassanid Persians, after all the constant fighting, eventually, the Arabs dominated both of them except the Greeks were powerful enough to remain exist while the Persians were incorporated to the Arab empire. Similarily to the Persians and now the Ottoman(Turkified Greeks) were dominated by Russia and conquered much of their territories.
@aryag6853
@aryag6853 Год назад
Maybe talk a little about Iran's success against Ottomans. Like, during Nader Shah's time
@alirezafarzi3537
@alirezafarzi3537 11 месяцев назад
Think of that Ottomans and Persians make alliance and never let Europe control Middle East
@Amir-vd1zf
@Amir-vd1zf 2 года назад
Why didn't ottomans conquer Persia ?! Nadir shah : it's showtime Abbas the great : yea probably
@mrtminer2723
@mrtminer2723 2 года назад
🇮🇷👍
@kronzweld1008
@kronzweld1008 2 года назад
Breaking News: Safavids and Afshars were not Persians but in fact, Turks.
@mrwho5877
@mrwho5877 2 года назад
@@kronzweld1008 fun fact: iran is a multicultural alliance. and as a turk I am fully loyal to my country (iran) while proud of my ethnicity's culture.
@mzero4769
@mzero4769 2 года назад
@@kronzweld1008 @Kronzweld fun fact 20 million of turkey's population is made by kurds (mountain turks you call) that speak an iranic language and another fun fact is that unlike turkey we are proud of being multicultural we might suffer from a corrupted regime but as turks kurds Persians balochies... We are one nation
@Amir-vd1zf
@Amir-vd1zf 2 года назад
@@kronzweld1008 breaking news : who wrote this comment is also a Turk
@Mithradatesi
@Mithradatesi 2 года назад
This video doesn't cover the most successful period of The Persian dominance though. From 1629 to 1666 it were the Persians who had the upper hand and controlled eastern Anatolia, Syria and Iraq.
@deusex1104
@deusex1104 2 года назад
Persia have never controlled Eastern Anatolia and Syria 16th century onwoards. Iraq, partly yes. But then reconquered by the Ottomans short time after.
@Mithradatesi
@Mithradatesi 2 года назад
@@deusex1104 Shah Abbas The Great did. He Also re conquered the Persian Bahrain with the help of Dutch Navy wich is UAE, Parts of Oman and parts of Saudi Arabia. That is why he has got the title Great.
@deusex1104
@deusex1104 2 года назад
@@Mithradatesi Oh, i dont know about these parts really. I just opposed to Eastern Anatolia and Syria thing.
@veyselturan6916
@veyselturan6916 2 года назад
@@Mithradatesi Shah Abbas was not Persian 😉
@Mithradatesi
@Mithradatesi 2 года назад
@@veyselturan6916 Shah abbas was Part Persian Part Kurdish Part Turkman and Part Byzantine Part Georgian. But his Great Great grandfather was From The Zarrin kolah clan of Nihavand who are of Parthian Pahlavi descent. So Technically he is Iranian/Persian.
@Fulgrim88
@Fulgrim88 10 месяцев назад
"Because its impossible to march troops all the way there sucessfully" Proceeds to show how it was very much possible 2mins later
@mattkara7996
@mattkara7996 Год назад
Today it takes 1 day to travel from Istanbul to Eastern Anatolia by car. Just imagine how long would it take to walk that distance let alone mountanious terrain you have to cross at the end of journey..
@giannb5145
@giannb5145 2 года назад
Because the Persians have been very tough and very skilled for millennia, combining military strength and high culture. Even when they were conquered by Turkic nomadic empires, they assimilated their conquerors (like the Greeks did with the Romans) You can still see it today: Iran controls a New Persian Empire, with huge influence in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. And through the Revolutionary Guard and Hezbollah it has managed to do more damage to Israel than all Arab states combined.
@zeusthesigma
@zeusthesigma 2 года назад
Best comment
@ebrucicek6996
@ebrucicek6996 2 года назад
🤣🤣
@zeusthesigma
@zeusthesigma 2 года назад
@@alonequeen8020 Scytians are iranic not turk you turks are so funny
@zeusthesigma
@zeusthesigma 2 года назад
@@alonequeen8020 Gokturk rulers was iranic origin and they made turkic people knel.
@zeusthesigma
@zeusthesigma 2 года назад
When turks was not even in this world two iranic people Persians and Scytians Conquered half of the world hahahahah.
@interestinglife934
@interestinglife934 2 года назад
I dont think distance was a big factor to consider as to why the Ottomans didnt go further east. Many others before and after traveled across much greater distances.
@zebedeecopland9598
@zebedeecopland9598 2 года назад
However, the land was very barren and was more difficult to hold than it was worth
@r3xmundi1
@r3xmundi1 2 года назад
Agreed. The very maps in this video that show the Ottomans territory in Arabia prove that distance could be overcome. I think it’s the mountains and the strong national organisation and identity they couldn’t defeat. Persia has historically been invaded many times, but conquered far less, and only when it was disunited
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 2 года назад
A lot of Ottoman land, like the Romans before then, could use the seas and rivers, Persia? Not so much. Even up to the Iran/Iraq war, the topography was a killer both for striking into Iran and supplying out of Iran, doable but a serious pain
@idirani6298
@idirani6298 2 года назад
Hat up , for your first instinct ! The Truth : They are just jealous of eternal and master country of Iran , even today ! See , at embargos and making problems for Iran with their shitty freedom , stinky democracy and their fake Human-Rights ! This is why !
@senthayfn
@senthayfn 2 года назад
Their interest was in Europe
@djelalhassan7631
@djelalhassan7631 9 месяцев назад
Good
@fatihgunaydn5757
@fatihgunaydn5757 10 месяцев назад
it was also big challange to find and fight with iranian army. most of the time ottoman army marched hundreds kms into the iranian territory in harsh conditions and still couldnt find the enemy. there was even filty chat between selim and ismail. selim tried to lure ismail into fight and succeded.
@retrogamermax8287
@retrogamermax8287 2 года назад
One reason I can think of why Persia has only been conquered twice in history and never colonized during the Industrial Age is because of it's rocky and mountainy geography. Persia or Iran would be a very hard nation to conquer due to it's rocky geography alone as Persia/Iran might have one of the best defensive geographical advantages in the world compared to many countries. I think geography has been on the Persians' side throughout history.
@soniahemmati2372
@soniahemmati2372 2 года назад
Greeks or Macedonians, Arabs, so many diffrent turkic tribes and Mongols all conquered and ruled Iran for many long years.
@everydayrubbish8962
@everydayrubbish8962 2 года назад
Everyone knows Ottomans Seljucks invaded persia for hundreds of years, there for there was nothing interesting in persia for ottomans. Seljuck Turks before Ottomans owned the Persia, this video is misleading information, it wasn't difficult to invade persia, Whilst ottomans and persia had several wars, and persia always lost the wars. Ottomans went to west
@brightburnedits4278
@brightburnedits4278 2 года назад
@@soniahemmati2372 they all lose and failed to iran
@alirezaesfandiari5942
@alirezaesfandiari5942 2 года назад
@@everydayrubbish8962 said the dogmatic person who is heavily exposed to only turkish history!
@kananabdullayev9257
@kananabdullayev9257 2 года назад
Who says it was not conquered? Iran was always depended on UK politically and economically
@abdulrahmanabdulaziz8742
@abdulrahmanabdulaziz8742 2 года назад
The old Roman-Persian conflict was transferred to the Ottomans-Iranians.
@hackman669
@hackman669 2 года назад
@Igor Zlatkovic So boys were fighting just for the hell of it?
@oguzkagan4643
@oguzkagan4643 2 года назад
@Igor Zlatkovic dude because Turks %40 Muslim Greek, %32,5 muslim armenian , % 21,9 kurds , % 9.31 arabs
@oguzkagan4643
@oguzkagan4643 2 года назад
@Igor Zlatkovic my father blonde asiatic Face asiatic Eyes (nomad teke tribe)…. ım a serb????
@Kaan_is_myname97
@Kaan_is_myname97 2 года назад
@Igor Zlatkovic go spill your bullshits elsewhere please
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad 11 месяцев назад
Indeed, when Isma'il captured Tabriz in 1501 he proclaimed himself in pre-Islamic Iranian political terms as Padishah-i Iran. In using the Persian term "Padishah," to describe his status in "Iran," he was repeating pre-Islamic Iranian political and geographical/political terminology that had only recently been revived by the Il-Khanid Mongols and used also by the Aq Quyunlu. His invocation of these terms suggests he thought of himself as a political heir of hismatrilineal relatives, the Aq Quyunlu. The ancient term "Iran" had fallen out of use following the Arab-Muslim invasions and had not been used by the Caliphs, or their successors, the Samanids, or the many Turkic dynasties that succeeded them. A final irony of Isma'il's use of the term "Iran," or in one of his poems the phrasemulk-i 'Ajam, the "state" or "kingdom of Iran," is that even though Tabriz, Azerbaijan, and Mesopotamia represented provinces of the pre-Islamic Shahanshahs, the "kings of Kings" of Iran, there is no evidence that Isma'il imagined himself to be reconstituting a new Iranian empire; rather he planned to establish a messianic Shi'i state on Aq Quyunlu foundations. Within the decade following his capture of Tabriz in 1501, Isma'il occupied the geographic center of the pre-Islamic Achaemenid and Sasanian Iranian empires. He did so, though, with Oghuz tribes whose knowledge of the Shah-nama and the glories of pre-Islamic Iranian kingship was almost certainly limited to inchoate oral traditions one of his poems the prasenik-i Ajail, he "state" or "kingdom of Iran," is that even though Tabriz, Azerbaijan, and Mesopotamia represented provinces of the pre-Islamic Shahanshahs, the "kings of Kings" of Iran, there is no evidence that Isma'il imagined himself to be reconstituting a new Iranian empire; rather he planned to establish a messianic Shi'i state on Aq Quyunlu foundations. Within the decade following his capture of Tabriz in 1501, Isma'il occupied the geographic center of the pre-Islamic Achaemenid and Sasanian Iranian empires. He did so, though, with Oghuz tribes whose knowledge of the Shah-nama and the glories of pre-Islamic Iranian kingship was almost certainly limited to inchoate oral traditions. Isma'il was reconstituting the Aq Quyunlu state in these conquests, and like that of the Aq Quyunlu, the ultimate focus of his ambitions was eastern Anatolia, where his father and grandfather and he himself had proselytized among the Turks. Dale, S. (2009). The rise of Muslim empires. In The Muslim Empires of the Ottomans, Safavids, and Mughals (New Approaches to Asian History, pp. 48-76). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
@Uptotheceilingdowntothefloor
The new cities were predominantly Muslim , and Iran became one of the most influential regions of Muslim intellectual activity . From around 1000 on the independent Iranian dynasties rapidly gave way to new dynasties of Turkic origin . Embree, A.T. (1988) Encyclopedia of Asian history. New York: C. Scribner's Sons. P.156
@scottgrey3337
@scottgrey3337 2 года назад
I’m usually not picky with historical videos, especially when they cover overlooked topics, but boy was this a mess. This wasn’t even much of a “why” Iran resisted Ottoman expansion as it was a summary of what happened- and a poor one at that. We barely have a reason for why the two had hostile relations and no exploration of something like long-standing goals or geopolitical ambitions (did Iran want *all* of the Ottoman Empire? What were the Ottoman’s goals with this conflict?) and yet we get a mention that it’s far to walk from Constantinople to Iran. But why is Iraq achievable but the rest too far? If the mountains are an obstacle how did Khuzestan (the bottom left corner of Iran) stay unconquered? Were none of the wars worth exploring in-depth as a good example of long-standing obstacles both countries faced? I barely feel like I came out of this learning anything more than the basics. If someone took this video at face value, they would think walking is the critical danger to armies, rather than extended supply lines or overextension. Hell, we don’t even know *why* the Jannisairies got upset midway through the most successful invasion of Iran.
@uguraydin12
@uguraydin12 2 года назад
Jannisairies were professional troops of the Ottoman Empire and they had salaries from the crown. Their other source of income was looting from enemy cities. Persians destroyed their own land so there was nothing to loot. That's why they were not enthusiastic about that.
@navidaban2856
@navidaban2856 2 года назад
It was the Mongolian culture of the Ottomans that created many wars with their neighbors... it is always mistaken that it was Islam that made Ottomans attack Europe. No it was the Mongolian Culture of the Ottomans. The best example is their 300 years of conflict with Persia
@azarakhshsawmen127
@azarakhshsawmen127 2 года назад
@@navidaban2856 Chi migi dada baw mongolian culture kodume ? Har emperaturi mikhad sarzaminaye bishtari begire
@omerpasa3328
@omerpasa3328 2 года назад
agree , video needs deeper answers
@aidanbob2048
@aidanbob2048 2 года назад
Not to nitpick but the pronunciation is also quite a mess
@auxiliaryplays4804
@auxiliaryplays4804 2 года назад
The Ottomans didn't need to conquer Persia, simple as that. If they had tried, they wouldn't even made it far- Tehran at most. Cause of the terrain lol, and its too far from Constantinople, it would of been hard to manage such a vast province far too far from the empire, plus constant rebellions and discontent amongst the shia population and ruling class
@CagataySahin1
@CagataySahin1 2 года назад
You're right. Are u turk?
@flyingberserker3965
@flyingberserker3965 2 года назад
the terrain is so hard to even in modern warfare, its like and afghanistan with steroids.
@willowisp415
@willowisp415 2 года назад
@@flyingberserker3965 it's like Afghanistan but you only have technology from the 1600's - 1800's
@beepboopbeepp
@beepboopbeepp 2 года назад
Why did alexander the great do it then? It's kinda confusing the usual explaination for these things written in comments is "because it was a pain in the ass/difficult to do" but yet someone else has done it before. So answer should be why they specifically chose not to do it. With their own written reasons, must be some explaination.
@CagataySahin1
@CagataySahin1 2 года назад
@@beepboopbeepp ok but ottoman is sunni empire. Persia and its people are shia people. And shia dont like sunni. So, it would be very difficult for the Ottomans to control and subordinate the Shiite population. Even sokollu mehmed pasha told the administration that there was a risk in making an expedition to iran in 1578/79 and we can say that he was right.
@ahss6275
@ahss6275 Год назад
A fantastic video mate. 👏👏👏👏 Awesome graphics & mapping that made it so much easier to understand the topic. Could you please tell us who are the modern day Europeans that allied with the Persians & Turks/ottomans ? Thank you again.
@samfarzaneh4639
@samfarzaneh4639 Год назад
persia had more than 2000 years old civilization but ottoman empire was a half wild new country which his kings legally were killing their siblings so praise god whom saved persia from that berberians whose were doing genocides in many territories
@ersinulku1884
@ersinulku1884 Год назад
alakası bile yok. O tarihteki sizin bildiğiniz bu Pers devleti Türk devletidir. Şii Safevi devleti Türk'tür. Olay basit. Mezhepler farklı. Burayı almak, yarardan çok zarar getirir. İki devlet arasında nüfus kaymaları olan bir kaç şehir var. Savaşlar da onların üzerinden yürüdü.
@payamkhosravi3648
@payamkhosravi3648 2 года назад
The reasons: 1. the policy of burned land, means destroying the supplies in ottoman way and sometimes ottoman logistics.for example when Abbas took Baghdad back. which mentioned in video. 2. changing the ideology of the Persia to Shia and even Safavid rapeadly. 3. Cooperation of the people of the Iran. The Safavid empire was mostly based on Ghezelbash turks in army and Tajik (Fars) people governing civil aspects of the empire. Then in Abbas era a second army from Armenians, Georgians and kerkeses (not sure how to write the last one) added. For example Abbas gave Tabriz by an act between war and revolution. and Kurds let Safavids to go through mountains but attack ottomans, even Armenians, Georgians, ... were better with Safavids and even Armenians help persia in Qajar era. The Safavids also have good relationship with people inside their borders and evacuate them in run aways.
@bernard3303
@bernard3303 10 месяцев назад
I think of 2 words when hearing kerkeses, first is circassians and second is kirghiz. either way thanks for the info ❤
@swedhgemoni8092
@swedhgemoni8092 10 месяцев назад
@@bernard3303 He means Circassians. The Kyrgyz were affiliated with the Khanate of Bukhara, if I'm not wrong.
@precursors
@precursors 2 года назад
Ottoman Empire, Safavid Empire and Delhi Sultanate at the time were known as the gunpowder empires and all three had professional armies with heavy artillery. It was pointless endeavor for one to conquer the other.
@krishibrahmania8432
@krishibrahmania8432 Год назад
Dude it was not Delhi sultanate but Mughal Empire.
@precursors
@precursors Год назад
@@krishibrahmania8432 True
@ER-bh8dl
@ER-bh8dl Год назад
All of they was turkic empires. Also add to this group Timurid s Empire!
@e.c3734
@e.c3734 Год назад
@Kareem Sarhan are you jokimg or you are really ignorant?? Safevid was Turkish. Şah Ismael was Azerbaijan Turkish. Even now Iran has 40 million Turk( Azerbaijan, Qasgay, Turkman..) population.
@ramtin5152
@ramtin5152 Год назад
@@e.c3734 Shah Ismail I grew up bilingual, speaking Persian and Azeri His ancestry was mixed, from various ethnic groups such as Georgians, Greeks, Kurds and Turkomans Their official and court language was Persian as it can be seen on Safavid palaces or the poems written by Safavids such as Shah Tahmasp Shahnameh Though they also spoke and wrote in Azeri The Safavids were the first to use the term Iran as the name of their country and this can be seen in the Safavid map drawn by an Ottoman Turk, Ibrahim Muteferrika Iran's population right now is over 86 million but has 20-22 million Turkic population at max Azeris make 16% of Iran's total population I don't know from where do you get these absurd numbers Iran's total population is 86,729,411 right now in 2023 The Persians make 61% of the Population Combined with other Iranic people such as Kurds, Lur/Lors, Gilaks, Mazanis, Balochs, Armenians and Arabs, the number of non Azeris or non Turks surpasses 80% Around 18,000,000-20,000,000 of Iran's population is Azeri, 1,300,000 Turkmen and 400,000 Qashqai Except the source Azerbaijan has given, other non Iranian sources always said that there are between 16-18 million Azeris in Iran The highest number i saw was 20 million
@vanhetgoor
@vanhetgoor 10 месяцев назад
The Ottomans used to live on the expenses of their neighbours. For a long period the Ottoman Empire used Greece for proletarian shopping. Taking the food and not paying for it. All of Greece was occupied by the Ottomans, and still to this very day, large parts of Greece are constantly occupied, the same goes for the North part of Cyprus and West parts of Armenia and almost half of Kurdistan. The Turks have the stupid idea that their neighbouring countries belong to them. Even after a hundred years went by since the Ottoman Empire collapsed and sunk into obscurity. They just don't understand!
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad 11 месяцев назад
Undoubtedly, one of the biggest known mistakes is that Firuz Shah is regarded as a Kurd. This is never possible. Firuz Shah Zerrinkülah is not a Kurd, his name is Kızıl Bork Firuz. Kızıl Bork came to Mugan and Arran with a ruler descended from Ibrahim Ethem, and after he conquered this place, he resided in Ardebil. The author in Safvetü's Safa that Firuz Shah came from Sencan, and Ahmed Kesrevî, by not making sufficient academic studies, said that there was no such region as Sencan, that since "Firuz Shah el-Kürdî" is mentioned in Safvetü's Safa, Sinjar is the closest to the word Sencan, He said that Ibn Bazzaz wrote it wrong. Sinjar's being in Iraq and the passing of al-Kurdi nisba made Firuz Shah a Kurd. However, it is wrong, in al-Baghdadi's work he wrote that a region called Sencan was near Merv . In the corpus of Hata'i, it is written that the Sencan region is located in Nishapur and its surroundings . In addition, the word "Kurd" in the nisba of Firuz Shah "al-Kürdi" is used differently even then and now even thought it was moreover used for Nomads. Even Mazenis still use the word Kurd, which means "Nomad and Shepherd", as shepherd. It was called "Ekrâdi (Kurdish) Turkmani” in order to introduce the nomadic Turkmens in the Ottomans . Also, we wrote in the title that Firuz Shah came with a commander from the lineage of İbrahim Ethem. Let's not forget that İbrahim Ethem was from Khorasan... Firuz Shah definitely came from the Khorasan or Turkistan region, he is clearly Turkish. In the important Safavid source the Âlemârâ, it is written that Firuz was a Turk. (Source: İskender bey Münşi, "Tarix-aləm Aray-i Abbasi", sah.109. Alemara (Sahib), p.1; Alemara (Şükri),p.3. İskender bey Münşi, "Tarix-i aləm Aray-i Abbasi", sah.28.)
@Verethragna94
@Verethragna94 2 года назад
In fact Ottomans tried to conquer Iran many times as they considered themselves the caliphate of Islam, but each time they were repelled and lost lands, in fact one of the reasons that stopped Ottomans from taking a much larger portion of Europe was in fact the presence of another rival in the east, that they always had to keep another eye on them, and it distracted their focus on their western expansions, in fact there are many exciting Ottoman-Persian wars in various eras, The Ottoman-Persian War (1821-1823) ended with the signing of the First Treaty of Erzurum, thus Iran-Turkey borders remained unchanged since.
@cengizsogutlu
@cengizsogutlu 2 года назад
its not iran its Turkic safavid empire
@NickG_
@NickG_ 2 года назад
@@cengizsogutlu Iran has always been multicultural and all ethnicities were treated the same, as Iranians, for example Nader shah was an ethnic Turkic Iranian hero, Kaveh Ahangar (Kaveh the blacksmith) was an ethnic Kurdish Iranian hero and there are more examples. Ottomans on the other hand always pushed to convert people so I can somewhat understand why being Turkic or not is so important to today’s Turkish people
@rezamoharami9413
@rezamoharami9413 2 года назад
@@cengizsogutlu bro, you're not even Turks by blood and genes, it's only the language. Safavids and Qajars were remnants of Turkic speaking Iranians and Persians who were Turkified by Empires such as Seljuks. If you research deep, you'll see that Safavids and Qajars considered themselves Iranian and Persian and also used Persian language as official language and not once in the history they mentioned that they were Turks. I've seen many coins and moneys from that era which are written in Persian and is written the country of Persia or sometimes Iran, even though in those times. I'm Iranian from Azerbaijani part and I know what I talk about. So you freaking Panturk nationalists better stop spreading what your nationalist leaders say and try to make history for themselves. Because even Turkey and Azerbaijan are not Turkic basically by blood and it's mostly the language. Even if you go deeper you'll see that 30 percent of the Turkish vocabulary is made of Persian words and it's not a bad thing just because two countries politically have problems now, it's the sign of those days that we were connected
@rezamoharami9413
@rezamoharami9413 2 года назад
@@cengizsogutlu even Nader shah Afshar considered himself Persian even speaking Turkmen as mother tongue and considered Iran Persia. If you speak a Turkic language now is mostly because of the rule of the Seljuks who were partly Turkic and were considered Oguz Turks who even were not purely Turkic by blood and who you guys are trying to divide our two nations by speaking nonesense and saying such bullshits? Nowadays Turkey's people by many studies are only from 2 to 25 percent Oghuz Turks by blood and it's mostly the same for Azerbaijanies and it's only the remnants of Seljuks who mixed into local population. You guys saying that you are Turks is one of the funniest thing in the world. How can you say that some people came into my land in which we were mostly of Greek, Persian, Anatolian and Caucasian and fucked and pillaged us and turned our language to a Turkic based and claim that you're one of them?? I know politics and nationalistic movements are tricky and I know you have to find for yourself an identity and it mostly comes from what language you speak if you haven't any studies, but bro, how can you get blined by such bullshits like this? Instead of trying to find similarities that we have which are a lot, people like you and many Turkic speaking people prefer to rely on the bullshits nationalists repeat
@cengizsogutlu
@cengizsogutlu 2 года назад
@@rezamoharami9413 doesn't matter safavids were not Farsi. İt's like calling Seljuks İranian like a joke. Safavids were Turks.
@alphaomega8373
@alphaomega8373 2 года назад
I would have loved to seen a Ottoman and Persian Romance/War movie about the time of those wars :D
@masa4977
@masa4977 2 года назад
Bro if If they make a film about our history, we will surely become the bad guy in the story, even if we are good😢😢
@masa4977
@masa4977 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha You want to talk about Nader Shah😂😂
@rouldennn
@rouldennn 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha so all you care is someone being Turkish or not even tho he's coins just tells he considered himself Iranian, aside from that, why did sing some poems against the Ottomans then?
@rouldennn
@rouldennn 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha yes, and that's why he sent the skull of the Uzbek king to the Ottoman sultan as a gift 😹 maschallah veri Torkik bröthərhōōd
@rouldennn
@rouldennn 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha nah, Ottomans weren't hopeful of Uzbeks doing anything against the Safavids, when Uzbeks acted Ottomans looked for another chance and failed so badly. Safavids didn't give a sh- about you Turks.
@subhan8090
@subhan8090 11 месяцев назад
The most successful of those were the Safavids of Ardabīl, a Turkic mystic order that had immigrated there from eastern Anatolia along with seven Turkmen tribes (called Kizilbash[“Redheads”] because of their use of red headgear to symbolize their allegiance); the Safavids used a combined religious and military appeal to conquer most of Iran. Source:Britannica
@Pansistani
@Pansistani 10 месяцев назад
Persian (Iranian) turk like Ali Khamenei
@milliOnmilliOnmilliOn
@milliOnmilliOnmilliOn 10 месяцев назад
Safavid ❤🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿
@soheildian371
@soheildian371 9 месяцев назад
this was ghajar propaganda .they was iranian azari
@milliOnmilliOnmilliOn
@milliOnmilliOnmilliOn 9 месяцев назад
@@soheildian371 You occupied Azerbaijani territory in 1926
@soheildian371
@soheildian371 9 месяцев назад
Azarabandegan is real name and they are persian@@milliOnmilliOnmilliOn
@Mr-RRRRR
@Mr-RRRRR 10 месяцев назад
Eye-Ran??? WTH dude
@AbbasValanejad
@AbbasValanejad 2 года назад
The Language of the imperisal court in the Ottaman Turk was Persian. Still all the palaces walls are covered by the Persian Poetry .
@kaldirdimgobegi
@kaldirdimgobegi 2 года назад
Nope. Writing persian poetry doesn’t mean that
@AbbasValanejad
@AbbasValanejad 2 года назад
history says it !
@Nomadicenjoyer31
@Nomadicenjoyer31 2 года назад
@@AbbasValanejad wikipedia propagandas do you know anti turkism and euro centrism?
@ASh-oe9hm
@ASh-oe9hm 2 года назад
@پیاده نظام خان Persian wasn't arabasid.Many Turkish words come from Persian language
@Kr4zYm0f0
@Kr4zYm0f0 2 года назад
@@ASh-oe9hm the turks are connected to the mongols, wich also ruled the persian area so them having persian words makes sense
@arminabdi
@arminabdi 2 года назад
0:43 Just to clarify; The country isn’t just now called Iran. It was always Iran. Westerners called it Persia until Reza Shah formally asked all other countries to use the correct name.
@hannibalbarca2928
@hannibalbarca2928 2 года назад
Armin Abdi iran wasn't always iran . iran remained under greek domination for 300 years seluicid, macedon empire and greco bactria.It remained under Arab rule for 300 years, muzaffarids, umayyads, rashiduns and abbasids etc..220 years of mongol rule great mongol empire,jalarids and Ilkhanate mongol empire etc..There is also 600 years of Turkic domination and 250 years of Turco-Iranian rule.
@arminabdi
@arminabdi 2 года назад
@@hannibalbarca2928 I meant it was always Iran as opposed to Persia. Westerners used to call the country Persia and some think that was the name until the last century.
@user-zp7fx4gy4u
@user-zp7fx4gy4u 2 года назад
@@hannibalbarca2928 lol
@user-zp7fx4gy4u
@user-zp7fx4gy4u 2 года назад
Iran has been Iran since the time of the Sassanids. It was called Iranshahr in the Shahnameh of the fifth century.
@ario2562
@ario2562 Год назад
@@hannibalbarca2928 lol😂😂😂😂 every single thing in universe is tŰrK now go
@Intelligenkeit
@Intelligenkeit 10 месяцев назад
As far as i heared the romans tried it many times and failed, im not an expert on this, but i heared rome wanted to make persia to its new capital after conquering it, but they lost the wars and could not conquer persia then rome collapsed, so then its not really desired to try to conquer a country like that, so others didnt try it anymore, thats my guess atleast.
@mdzv4827
@mdzv4827 10 месяцев назад
Why couldn't... Not didn't, an empire that conquers many lands just simply did not try to get Safavi ? They could not, not did not
@amiirezashojaee5291
@amiirezashojaee5291 2 года назад
1821-1823 war was rather interesting, It happened on two fronts, one Persian army led by the Crown prince pushed deep into Anatolia defeating several minor Ottoman armies before routing a 50k strong force from Constantinople in the battle of Erzerum, while in the southern front eldest prince of Persia pushed into Iraq, capturing several towns and besieging Baghdad itself which came very close to falling, however, due to several problems; 1-Untimely and Suspicious death of Prince Dowlatshah, the commander of the force besieging Baghdad, 2- British Supported revolted in Herat and 3- the pressure of court members for peace, Shah of Persia was forced to order negotiations for peace and eventual status quo antebellum.
@darklord1901
@darklord1901 Год назад
so called 50.000 turkish trops of battle of erzerum wasn't mentioned in ottoman sources. It's unrealistic considering ottomans had to deal with greek revolts in those times and a war with russia was about to break. england and france were also had hostile attitudes towards turkey. so there is no way they could send that kind of big army to eastern frontiers.
@turkistanturan8548
@turkistanturan8548 Год назад
thats not true. the ottoman army was not 50k. also there was a lot of revolt in ottoman lands.
@Uptotheceilingdowntothefloor
By the end of the tenth century, with the Qarākhānid Turks conquering Sāmānid Central Asia and ushering in a millennium of Turkic rule across Iran and much of the Islamic World, the dynamic of the frontier had changed qualitatively. The Eastern Frontier: Limits of Empire in Late Antique and Early Medieval Central Asia (Early and Medieval Islamic World) Hardcover - June 27, 2019
@lambert801
@lambert801 Год назад
@@darklord1901 Of course it's not in Turkish sources. No one wants to look that bad...
@extremistterrorist
@extremistterrorist Год назад
​@UP TO THE CEILING DOWN TO THE FLOOR u seem kind of jealous
@AG-xg2lz
@AG-xg2lz 2 года назад
It's not the ottomans who made the Byzantine empire collapse. After the 1071 battle of mazikert Byzantine recovered but then the catholics came and literally destroyed our beloved city Constantinople and the areas near it
@amienabled6665
@amienabled6665 2 года назад
Catholics op
@stendyeg5118
@stendyeg5118 2 года назад
Hmm is it the venetian that destroyed the city?
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha 2 года назад
There was also a crusade against Constantinople too.
@agreatmanlookingtotheright
@agreatmanlookingtotheright 2 года назад
The Byzantines destroyed the empire by themselves with their civil wars and they even are the reason the Ottomans ever got a foothold into europe in the first place by using them as mercenarys.
@eduardogutierrez4698
@eduardogutierrez4698 2 года назад
Yeah, the Ottomans just dealt the final blow to a dying state.
@usmansabir1407
@usmansabir1407 12 дней назад
reason is not just strategic but political as well. Mughulas on the other side of Safvid could have been a military and pollical ally and could squeeze Persia from both ends to make things difficult. However, mughal dynasty acknowledged the caliphate of ottomans but not completely and although the mughals were sunni, they had relatively speaking warmer relationship with Persia. From the time of self imposed exile of Humayun to multiple mughal queens and empress consorts of Persian origins. Through these political marriages, that frontier was secured despite the religious allegiance of Mughals (somewhat Turkic themselves) with the ottomans and that meant Ottomans being on their own should they have decided to take on that venture.
@gorg5494
@gorg5494 2 года назад
Thank you My ancestors were in Shah-Abbas army (qizilbash azerbaijani tribe) and it is always interesting for me that how those wars were. Although we lost Kurdistan during those wars, but Zagros mountains are like 3000-4000 meters wall, no one can conquer all parts of iran from west P.S: Iran is ee-run not eye-run Chaldiran is çäldırän or çaldorän not kaldiran
@sevda.azari45
@sevda.azari45 2 года назад
You are turkish
@gorg5494
@gorg5494 2 года назад
@@sevda.azari45 i'm persian speaker now
@gorg5494
@gorg5494 2 года назад
@@sbd983 no we weren't
@brightburnedits4278
@brightburnedits4278 2 года назад
Safavid was Iranains whit kurdish origin
@repvoo2399
@repvoo2399 2 года назад
They were Turks
@youtube-shorts
@youtube-shorts 2 года назад
more logical question i have while watching that map why they did not conquer Georgia?
@mortezaabedi6537
@mortezaabedi6537 2 года назад
While persians was losing war in caucasus , they sobataged water supplies in that region and burned lands as well hence ottamans couldn't attack persia from caucasus
@hosamelsayed5723
@hosamelsayed5723 Год назад
The simple answer is they did try but both were a match for each other! Not to mention Ismail was a cousin to the ottomans and he knew all their moves, both used turkick troops and knew each other tricks.
@oneminutecoder
@oneminutecoder Год назад
Do you know that there are Turks on both sides? After a while, after Islam entered Iran, Iran was mostly ruled by Turks until 1925. Do you know; There is a verse in the Qur'an that indicates that the Turks will be the sword of Islam. quran 5.54 You, you those who believed, who returns from you from his religion, so God will come with a nation, He loves/likes them, and they love/like Him, on the believers humble , more glorious/mighty on the disbelievers, they struggle in God`s sake , and they do not fear a blamer`s/reprimanders`s blame/reprimand, that (is) God`s grace/favour, He gives it (to) whom He wills/wants, and God ( is) rich/abundant , knowledgeable. And do you know that the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) praised the Ottomans? Verily, you shall conquer Constantinople. What a wonderful army will that army be, and what a wonderful commander will that conqueror be. (Musnad, I, 176; IV, 335; Darimi, Muqaddima, p. 43) Turks also established many states in Egypt and Arab regions. (Tolunids 868... Selahattin Eyyubi's soldiers are generally Turkish. How much of the Mongol armies were Turks? Do you know? Attilla's lineage is also Turkish. Huns and Turks are the same. It was the Turks who established the system of dividing the armies into groups of 10 (Mete BC 209 -174) The main reason for the discovery of America is the desire to escape from the Turks. There is so much to write...
@radec1906
@radec1906 2 года назад
Reality: Huge border covered by wide mountainous area with hundreds of miles long desolate lands not worth even traversing yet conquering Eu4: Full Annex go brrrrr
@user-km4px2lm1u
@user-km4px2lm1u 2 года назад
The issue is not about the impassability of the borders of the two countries, but if someone like Nader Shah Afshar did not appear in the history of Iran, perhaps Iran would have completely disappeared and did not exist; At the same time, the importance of Shiite and Sunni geography as a stronghold cannot be underestimated.
@rapfarsibaza
@rapfarsibaza 2 года назад
He's was a genius Commander
@mehdimarkham5068
@mehdimarkham5068 2 года назад
One and only NADER shah the man who rescued Persia from all invader the commander of chief that was able to fight in four fronts and won most of his battles the kind of king that could defeat Mohammed shah of India took over Lahore and burn Delhi and took entire treasure of India we need this kind of leader once more to bring Iran to his previous would status as empire
@user-km4px2lm1u
@user-km4px2lm1u 2 года назад
@@mehdimarkham5068 He was almost the only person in the political history of Iran who was able to oppose the Ottoman Turks, it should not be forgotten that the Ottomans were a great threat to the world for many years.
@yt-1161
@yt-1161 2 года назад
Afshar
@LuisCastillo-jc8sv
@LuisCastillo-jc8sv Год назад
I came to conquer Uranus
@miladkeshvari805
@miladkeshvari805 Год назад
Well, Persia also had lots of internal conflicts during those times; you also totally ignored the wars between Persia and Portuguese (and later Russians and British) during the same time that reduced the capability of Persians to fight Ottomans. In this video there’s lots of emphasis on difficulties of Ottomans, though not highlighting that their advances in Iran were partly thanks to the internal and other external conflicts that Persians had to deal with
@ylmazuguz3986
@ylmazuguz3986 11 месяцев назад
Hahah İran was a small enemy for Ottomans. They had the wars against Germens, Habsburgs, Venezians, and Russos as well, at that era. Ottomans problems was greater than Persians. But this is a reality, The Turks ruled Persia for 1000 years. Nothing would change this reality.
@amirMohammed.
@amirMohammed. 11 месяцев назад
@@ylmazuguz3986 Whoever says that the Safavids were a small enemy of the Ottomans, probably does not know Shah Abbas the Great and Nadir Shah
@S3NTR7
@S3NTR7 10 месяцев назад
there is always that one bs comment that tries to spread lies and misinform the people unlike you i believe both were very strong empires and had strong enemies surrounding themafter all they were neighbours we are not talking about china and us on the otherside of the earth! @@ylmazuguz3986
@mahdi4530
@mahdi4530 10 месяцев назад
​@@ylmazuguz3986Persia also had wars with Portugal, Russia and Uzbeks and the only reason that ottomans were stronger than Persia was that they had advanced weapons even though they couldn't conquer Persia in spite of having advanced weapons . And yes Iran had Turk iranian king and a large number of Turk people are still living in Iran beside Persians, Kurds and other iranian minorities.
@saeedkamali2025
@saeedkamali2025 10 месяцев назад
@@ylmazuguz3986 turkish language people. People of Hittie, sumer, Elam, byzantine and ancient anatolia did not vanish! Actually new genetic evidence shows Turkey people has little of genes of Turk people and are mostly from ancient anatolians and linguistic studies show that their language before celjughs were indo-iranian-europian
@armaniony
@armaniony Год назад
0:44 I ran, you ran, we all ran to: Iran(pronounce: “E-run”)
@majestichotwings6974
@majestichotwings6974 2 года назад
I find it interesting to note that these types of geographic features have been stable borderlands for large empires dating all the way back to the earliest of empires. Hittites, Assyrians, Akkadians, Babylonian all empires who’s borders at one point stopped at those ranges bordering the Mesopotamian plains. Can you conquer beyond those lands? Oh absolutely as proven by madlads like Alexander, but it’ll take an exceptional amount of dedication and investment to expand outside your civilization’s natural borders and it inevitably results in those lands eventually breaking off, sure maybe you hold it for a few years, decades, Maybe a few centuries if you’re good, but inevitably your civilization defaults to its natural borders. I think the reason why the ottomans didn’t take Persia is purely practical, they had plenty of land to work with and plenty of problems associated with just keeping those, much less further flung ventures into the mountains of Iran.
@o-wolf
@o-wolf 2 года назад
ppl forget as well as being a complete &utter nutcase alexander also used mass slaughter threats of genocide/oblivion & psychological warfare to maintain a what should have been rather tenuous foothold in these territories.. not to mention marrying his generals directly into the ruling hierarchy &having them submit to local customs/religion of his conquered territories as a matter of routine.
@rashnuofthegoldenscales4512
@rashnuofthegoldenscales4512 2 года назад
The reason isn't simply "practical". The reason why the Ottomans couldn't "take" Persia (a combined tract of land roughly the size of Western Europe) is because the Persians weren't sitting on their hands waiting to get attacked. They were formidable on their own merits and had the most formidable cavalry in West Asia. That goes beyond it being a "practical convenience" as you would have it.
@majestichotwings6974
@majestichotwings6974 2 года назад
@@rashnuofthegoldenscales4512 I wasn’t trying to imply that the native Persians weren’t able to defend their own land but I was implying that the ottomans would’ve been more successful had they the willingness to commit to the conquest.
@rashnuofthegoldenscales4512
@rashnuofthegoldenscales4512 2 года назад
@@majestichotwings6974 You must be joking. Some of the biggest musterings conducted by the Ottomans were for the Persian campaigns. To claim that there was a lack of will or commitment behind these levies is plainly a made up notion. Furthermore, implying that success is automatic for "wanting it more" (something you can't prove to begin with) is the same as invalidating Persian efforts. You do understand that this isn't how war is waged?
@blueberrybuttercake2942
@blueberrybuttercake2942 2 года назад
Damn, I always feel sad when someone never heard about Cyrus
@andyleighton6969
@andyleighton6969 2 года назад
Love the idea that the Ottomans would gather at Istanbul, in the far West, and march the length of Turkey to fight in the far East rather than mustering, resting and resupplying at an Eastern garrison town such as Erzurum [after 1514].
@haninditabudhi6574
@haninditabudhi6574 2 года назад
What crosses though my mind is that sea travel from Constantinople to Trebizond wouldve saved some valuable time for the main army
@ugurerten983
@ugurerten983 Год назад
Dont forget "Battle Of Chaldiran" "August 1514"
@tarekzoabi9031
@tarekzoabi9031 4 месяца назад
Must have sucked for the people in Mesopotamia, Caucasus, Eastern Anatolia and Western Iran for having to endure a state of near constant warfare for a not so small part of three centuries.
@qapaghanqaghanssoldier9111
@qapaghanqaghanssoldier9111 2 года назад
They may have been Iranians or Turks, or even of Kurdish or Arabic origin, but their appeal was religious rather than ethnic or tribal. Devotion to the Safavid order was widespread among the Türkmen tribes of Azarbayjan and Anatolia. Safavid followers wore a distinctive red turban and were known as Qizilbash, or “red-heads.” The Safavid order was both Sufi and Shiite in orientation, and it is thanks to the Safavids that Iran is a Shiite country today. Religious overtones aside,in most other respects theirs was a typical turkish dynasty. As late as the 1660s and 1670s, a Frenchman at the Safavid court could still write: “Turkish is the language of the armies and of the court; one speaks nothing but Turkish there, as much among the women as among the men, throughout in the seraglios of the great; this comes about because the court is originally of the country of this language, descended from the Türkmens, of whom Turkish is their native tongue. Jeroen Duindam (2016). Dynasties: A Global History of Power, 1300-1800. Cambridge University Press. p. 136. ISBN 978-1-107-06068-5.
@ExclamationPeriodQuestionMark
@ExclamationPeriodQuestionMark 2 года назад
Least delusional non turk
@akiamini4006
@akiamini4006 2 года назад
Well said bro
@OdinochkaVIP
@OdinochkaVIP 2 года назад
@Kaz Miller lol spare us from your fakenews, tojik. We better know what we are :) definitely not fars
@TurquazCannabiz
@TurquazCannabiz 2 года назад
@Kaz Miller Azeris are considered Turkic lol
@aguy5912
@aguy5912 2 года назад
@@TurquazCannabiz they are irano-turkic. Not fully turkic. Speaking turkic doesn't make you turkic. Same as safavids. Shah Ismael's mother was a turk and his father was a kurd
@Farhad6th
@Farhad6th 2 года назад
Iran has seen a lot of things in history. Iranian people are amazing at surviving and defending themselves.
@Sjshakdh
@Sjshakdh 2 года назад
Safavid Azerbaijan 🇦🇿
@user-wo4fg2gr8k
@user-wo4fg2gr8k Год назад
@@Sjshakdh no kid safavid for ardabil iran🇮🇷🇮🇷
@yarsaz4347
@yarsaz4347 7 месяцев назад
@@Sjshakdh Azerbaijan is Iran.
@feylesoftca
@feylesoftca 9 месяцев назад
ottoman army equiped with cannons but persians was only cavalry man. Wherever They see ottomans were coming They escaped. 6 months later yavuz was tired. It was difficult to pursue cavalry man. That was main reason.
@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran
@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran 9 месяцев назад
The Safavid army was not a Persian or even an Iranian army. Until the time of Shah Abbas, most of the soldiers were Anatolian Turks, and after that, half were Turks, and the rest were Armenians and Georgians.
@Zendora7456
@Zendora7456 5 месяцев назад
No Persian safevi İsmail şah = Türk
@narimanaliyev6444
@narimanaliyev6444 Год назад
interesting fact is both of them Ottoman(continue of Rome) Safavid(continue of Persian) was turkic dynasties and they are as dynasties continue of Seljuks.At this war turkic people kill each other from both side Qaznavids,Kharazmshas,Seljuks,Atabegs,Elkhanids,Timurids,Karakoyunlu,Akkoyunlu,Safavid,Afshars.Qajars etc.. between 865-1925 Iran rulled by turkic dynasties and big part of population are turkic even today and Khamenei is Turkic Azerbaijani from Tabriz and south azerbaijanians,Qashqai,Khalaj,Khorasani turkmens,Shahsevens,South Turkmenistani Turkmens etc a lot of turkic groups lives in Iran even today +- more than 50%population of iran are turkic
@nymaaez
@nymaaez 2 года назад
Do a video on nader afshar. He is considered napoleon of the east by the west and last sword man by the east
@masoudnavard4436
@masoudnavard4436 2 года назад
Napoleon was the Nader of the west Nader was there first
@omgbruhohhellnahmanwtfman9558
@omgbruhohhellnahmanwtfman9558 2 года назад
napoleon is nader of the west
@thenoobprincev2529
@thenoobprincev2529 2 года назад
One thing to remember is the fact that Ottomans always had superior manpower compared to the Safavids.(Starting from Chaldiran and onwards till the End)thanks to ruling an Empire three or four times more populated than Iran.(i think somewhere around 30-40millions to 10 millions)
@user-io3wd3qq9o
@user-io3wd3qq9o 2 года назад
It had the technological superiority too
@thenoobprincev2529
@thenoobprincev2529 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha The Safavids also fought with Uzbek Khanates on NorthEast almost non stop.not to mention the Occasional Russians on the Caucausas and the Mughuls on the Southeast.and Even the Portuguese in the Persian Gulf,so yeah,not just the Ottomans had multiple fronts.
@thenoobprincev2529
@thenoobprincev2529 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha The Ottomans having more manpower is not exactly sth to debate about,It's a fact.You can check the Various Wars, battles and campaigns that both were involved in.For example(Numbers from wikipedia): Chadiran:100000 to 40000 Urmia:90000 to 70000 Seige of Baghdad(1638):110000 to 40000 Yeghavard(1735):80000 to 15000 And.... Last but not least,A certain front consuming more manpower(for a bigger,more populated Empire of all things)does not mean other fronts are safe town centers.in Central Asia and Uzbek-safavid conflicts for example,The front was a massive open desert,needing constant alert and forces to stop the invaders advance.
@0ktyabrsky
@0ktyabrsky 2 года назад
@Mehmed Said Pasha Hello friend, i would like to ask you a question, i am assuming that you are turkish and know Ottoman history well. During Russo-Turkish war of 1568, in our Russian sources it is noted that Ottomans tried to dig first Don-Volga canal in order to bring artillery on ships to conquer Astarkhan. So here is the question, why Ottomans never tried to dig something similar to Suez canal? Taking into consideration that by late 16th- early 17th century, Europeans could avoid Ottoman borders(which means high taxes) for Asian goods, Suez canal would really help turn tides, and reinforce Ottoman strategic position. Or am i missing something..
@froglifes6829
@froglifes6829 2 года назад
@@0ktyabrsky Because they were not smart people. Thats also why the ottoman empire doesnt exsist anymore.
@kevinbwtauer4190
@kevinbwtauer4190 Год назад
The Persians were incredible, wise, warriors, philosophers, nowadays they are blinded by a blind religion and a religious dictatorship. what a sad phase
@arvink
@arvink 10 месяцев назад
Friend. That's not airan... That's eiran 😂
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 2 года назад
the geography of Iran made it in to a natural fort.
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