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Why do business class seats have shoulder harnesses when economy doesn’t?😱 

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@fishyfrog27
@fishyfrog27 5 месяцев назад
I've never had that question cuz I've never flown business class before 😂
@tonys8448
@tonys8448 5 месяцев назад
Don't because once you do there's no going back to economy 😂
@harshinisreedhara1065
@harshinisreedhara1065 5 месяцев назад
Fellow passenger you and I are peasants
@fraud8256
@fraud8256 4 месяца назад
Well in fairness most airlines don’t have this so it’s likely you wouldn’t have that question even if you did
@Blast-Forward
@Blast-Forward 4 месяца назад
@@tonys8448 There's also no going back to a life without debt
@fishyfrog27
@fishyfrog27 4 месяца назад
@@fraud8256 haha
@korbinianrohrbach1165
@korbinianrohrbach1165 4 месяца назад
According to the ATSB it is recommended to have 3 or 4 point belts instead of lap belts for survivability, so yes, they are safer in business class
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 4 месяца назад
Yes, they are safer, but that isn't the reason it is done.
@davidj4626
@davidj4626 5 месяцев назад
Don’t forget that in economy that upon instructions you are supposed to adopt the brace position by resting your head on your arms on the seat in front of you (unless you can’t reach - such as in exit row). So that is what reduces the impact not the smaller distance meaning less acceleration. Your body is not speeding up - it’s already travelling at the speed of the plane.
@cameroneridan4558
@cameroneridan4558 5 месяцев назад
Your body doesn't accelerate, but the plane decelerates, which because of simple relativity is the same thing. The plane is your frame of reference.
@ChatminAC
@ChatminAC 5 месяцев назад
Buissness class and first class do the same brace as first row/emergency door roe seats its just there for added safety and so their precious expensive screens don't get smashed
@locacharliewong
@locacharliewong 5 месяцев назад
Hold up…. So why those Economic class seats that are next to the emergency exit row didn’t have shoulder belt? That doesn’t make sense.
@cameroneridan4558
@cameroneridan4558 5 месяцев назад
@@locacharliewong not far enough
@ChatminAC
@ChatminAC 5 месяцев назад
@@locacharliewong Because the guy who made this comment was very wrong
@marcusyoung5440
@marcusyoung5440 5 месяцев назад
Exactly the question on my mind recently. Thx! I will now be less cavalier about not using the harness.
@ClaudiaDolfi
@ClaudiaDolfi 4 месяца назад
The flight attendants request to put the shoulder harness for take-off and landing. During the flight they usually don't bother even when the seat belt sign is on.
@Cold_Logic
@Cold_Logic 5 месяцев назад
Airline safety feature #1 : smashing into the seat in front of you
@jhalin4579
@jhalin4579 5 месяцев назад
Not quite, NS Dan. Angled seats are required to have shoulder harnesses due to the somewhat sideways position if thrown forward. I can’t think of an airline that doesn’t put them on all business class seats if there are any angled seats in the cabin, even if technically not required on the seats that are facing straight forward. Otherwise, if it were a case of distance to the seat in front of you, shoulder harnesses would be required on quite a few economy seats that have several feet of empty space in front of them, such as those at doorways and some bulkhead seats. However, there are absolutely safety requirements that consider force absorption by seat backs in front of you in all seats.
@auwz66
@auwz66 5 месяцев назад
The simple answer is all seats must retain the passenger and minimise injury at decelerations of 15G. For some seats a lap belt will not pass the test. This is why some business seats have air bags instead. HTH.
@Jwellsuhhuh
@Jwellsuhhuh 5 месяцев назад
Air bags are hella expensive. No way would ANY airline ever implement that on every seat. And if it was installed the amount of false deployments would be insane. Or there would have to be a system to only deploy if someone is sitting there
@auwz66
@auwz66 5 месяцев назад
@@Jwellsuhhuh Read my post again. There are lots of airlines flying with airbag seats. Maybe google it...
@majorcalvary6515
@majorcalvary6515 4 месяца назад
That’s because the new business seats are facing forward at an angle to maximize space. Old business class did not have this because they all just face forward. Old business seats were more like a lazy recliners. Now they make it flat, but angled and took away some shoulder width. I like the older recliner configuration better.
@aci-mh8yo
@aci-mh8yo 5 месяцев назад
I just recently flown Lufthansa first class, they also have shoulder harnesses, but without them, good luck hitting a seat infront of u since they are 2.2 meters away.
@Gary_Harlow
@Gary_Harlow 5 месяцев назад
In those cases it is probably to prevent you snapping your back?
@benztech2262
@benztech2262 5 месяцев назад
Econo class seat are so close to the seats in front of you, the back of the seat will absorb your impact. And probably snap your neck!
@westcoastmeltingpot3234
@westcoastmeltingpot3234 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, and this is one of the reasons why it's so important to bring your seat back up during takeoff and landing as of the crucial moments of flight. We don't ask passengers to raise their seats and fasten their seatbelt because we want to frustrate passengers it's for safety reasons.
@soumyonath911
@soumyonath911 5 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same thing 30 minutes ago and RU-vid recommended me this…
@juoig7799
@juoig7799 5 месяцев назад
I think all classes should have shoulder harnesses anyway for enhanced safety.
@vkdrk
@vkdrk 4 месяца назад
I was literally thinking about this a couple of days ago during my flight from Miami to London. Thanks for explaining it 🙂 for some reason, I thought it was for more comfort
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Deucemantatum
@Deucemantatum 5 месяцев назад
U should do more Qantas videos
@carlhancke8730
@carlhancke8730 5 месяцев назад
I saw a South African Airlink !!! 🇿🇦
@alanleech37
@alanleech37 3 месяца назад
Dan I love these little shorts you’re doing. I’m a big fan of your work.
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much Alan!
@XsSlayeR3
@XsSlayeR3 5 месяцев назад
This is such a strange coincidence for me, I was on a A380 yesterday from DXB -> LHR and was wondering why the staff seats had the harnesses when we didn't xD
@sebastianflynn1746
@sebastianflynn1746 5 месяцев назад
Generally the staff seats are placed with a good view of the interior so they have nothing in front of them, if I were to guess, minor head injury of passengers is less of a concern than minor head injury of trained staff who can help save lives in an emergency.
@pwrcaelenx
@pwrcaelenx 5 месяцев назад
I’d like to see how the British Airways A380 compares to other airlines’ A380 services and more
@anna-marianunezvega1520
@anna-marianunezvega1520 3 месяца назад
Makes a lot of sense! That's also why you have to wear the harness only during take-off and landing in these phases you have a significant forward and backward movement. During cruise it is mainly up and down, so the harness won't make a difference then
@joshuasiley-waters6567
@joshuasiley-waters6567 5 месяцев назад
Rip Emergency Exit row
@TheTopG17
@TheTopG17 5 месяцев назад
Ha good one
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 5 месяцев назад
They have a thing called airbag seatbelts. Basically when it detects impact the airbag from inside the seatbelt inflates absorbing your impact. So that's why some seats have a leather cover on them and are hard
@ClaudiaDolfi
@ClaudiaDolfi 4 месяца назад
I've never seen airbag seatbelts on exit rows, but rather in business class. Pretty bulky and uncomfortable though.
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 4 месяца назад
@@ClaudiaDolfi idk I've never sat in an exit row but in bulkhead seats there sre
@rawpotatoes3785
@rawpotatoes3785 3 месяца назад
I just discussed this yesterday. Why don't all seats in the plane have shoulder harnesses?
@MinkieWinkle
@MinkieWinkle 5 месяцев назад
and you wanna know something that is making your flights cost far more, With these types of belts they come in multiple parts, one parts keeps failing. However, the manufactures refuse to sell it separately. so then airlines have to buy the entire assembly. Which which costs from about 300 to 1000 depending on the model. just so that they can replace one item, then then throw the rest of it away. since it is now, "incomplete" So that cost is added to the cost of tickets
@staguar
@staguar Месяц назад
I mean, they won't say it's because we're worth more...but we are. 😂
@vesuviusjohn7558
@vesuviusjohn7558 Месяц назад
So economy can handle an impact that hopefully isn't too hard while the more expensive seats can't risk anything happening.
@cali843
@cali843 4 месяца назад
Not included on Boeing planes
@shortylucy
@shortylucy 4 месяца назад
Thats a great point.
@harmonymavodse6570
@harmonymavodse6570 Месяц назад
I just saw Airlink a South African airline 😊
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 5 месяцев назад
If you want to see which seat Brands to have it they are the following Safran Optima Stelia Solstys & Symphony Rockwell Collins elements. The latter one is actually the manufacturer of the B-1 Lancer bomber. Therefore they actually make seats and combat aircraft. For some reason the Safran Sky Lounge/Cirrus doesn't have this even though it's supposed to have one. Flying between Hong Kong and Manila you will find out Thompson Vantage XL on Philippine Airlines has this style of belt. JPA Airtrek CX 2 or 3.
@christianbayerstein5243
@christianbayerstein5243 5 месяцев назад
Some seats have airbags in the belt instead of, so the harness is not necessary.
@michaelnash2972
@michaelnash2972 3 месяца назад
I was on JetBlue a few months ago and some of the Even More Space seats had the airbags. I think Delta’s A220 in first class has the airbags in the first row.
@dyoesSlj
@dyoesSlj Месяц назад
And yet atsb does say business class passengers are worth more than economy.
@deth3021
@deth3021 3 месяца назад
Well as payouts on death are based on future earnings.... a businesse class life does probably cost more to an airline.
@kate_6436
@kate_6436 4 месяца назад
People always jump to worst case scenario when they see different things like this
@cee_el
@cee_el 5 месяцев назад
This explains why my ANA First class didnt have one but my business class on the same aircraft had one
@themeaningoflifeexpert
@themeaningoflifeexpert 5 месяцев назад
Flimsy economy seats act as a cushion for those behind while business class seats are too solid to act as a cushion for those behind.
@stefano3403
@stefano3403 5 месяцев назад
I needed this explanation since I’ve just flown my first Jclass trip and was surprised in finding that heheh
@clairedobson2240
@clairedobson2240 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this Dan
@Koowhooo
@Koowhooo 4 месяца назад
such a good video! great job😊
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 4 месяца назад
Thank you 🙏
@xavier4260
@xavier4260 2 месяца назад
Ok but you can say the same for driving seat in car too, the danger is hitting your head with the steering wheel, (i know there is a air bag ), that's the same in economy the screen is the right in front of you. So yh business is worth more, yes they are thinking that. Oh, and about the speed you travelling the same speed as the plane no matter where you are, economy business or 1st 😅, its basic science
@trandrew98
@trandrew98 5 месяцев назад
I always thought the design of the seat itself played a part in it.
@AndrewL31413
@AndrewL31413 4 месяца назад
Let’s be honest. You’re probably dead if the seatbelt comes into play.
@sabbys7750
@sabbys7750 5 месяцев назад
That's cool!! I had no idea!!
@fluffyboy
@fluffyboy 4 месяца назад
So the reason of the seatbelt in Economy is because is expected the person to crash with the chair in front faster?
@Fonix21
@Fonix21 4 месяца назад
Lufthansa Business Clas has the same seatbelts as in economy or premium economy
@AndrewPurnell-t8y
@AndrewPurnell-t8y 4 месяца назад
It’s true. Doesn’t matter what class your in the airline pays your family the same when the plane crashes and you die. $0. They don’t even refund the ticket.
@Fs3i
@Fs3i 4 месяца назад
No…? That’s just not true.
@Tesstickles101
@Tesstickles101 5 месяцев назад
so when it hits the ground at 600mph it doesnt really matter
@hentaishogun1160
@hentaishogun1160 5 месяцев назад
Yes. They are.
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 4 месяца назад
Air Canada uses airbags on the lap belts in its International Business class. Will those airbags inflate in a crash to do the same thing?
@emmata98
@emmata98 5 месяцев назад
Next we need airbags
@Pablo-ash
@Pablo-ash 5 месяцев назад
How come they don’t put them on extra leg room seats
@johnf.3286
@johnf.3286 Месяц назад
Are you actually talking about seat belts on an air plane??? Let's think about that for a moment....
@rizwanwasi7019
@rizwanwasi7019 3 месяца назад
It is important to save business class passengers because they are paying high fares. This species should be protected from extinction.
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 4 месяца назад
280 knots to 0, dont think its gunna matter much
@Avationedit
@Avationedit 5 месяцев назад
How are all of his videos like so good and informal and funny at the same time? Like if you go back to some of his old videos he makes the best jokes ever!
@NonstopDan
@NonstopDan 5 месяцев назад
Thank you 😂
@haridev_.m
@haridev_.m 5 месяцев назад
Broo can you try new Air India A350
@DJL0455
@DJL0455 4 месяца назад
I flew Qatar Business Class from Atlanta to Dar es Salaam two years ago. No shoulder harnesses.
@Fullsuspensionjoe
@Fullsuspensionjoe 5 месяцев назад
Or they could install airbags 😂
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 5 месяцев назад
That adds far more weight and complexity. Plus that's more explosives no airline would want to deal with.
@that1gamer157
@that1gamer157 5 месяцев назад
Nice video 👍
@WorldTravellerPT
@WorldTravellerPT 3 месяца назад
It is a bit more nuanced than that and some of the questioning is a bit tabloidish.
@CyberMew
@CyberMew 5 месяцев назад
Eh? Isn’t it for sleeping purposes?
@markdillon9588
@markdillon9588 2 месяца назад
Yeah right
@zzzetsulive
@zzzetsulive 5 месяцев назад
But your head isn't accelerating. The plane would be decelerating and that has nothing to do with the distance? Right?
@rich_mentalduck1631
@rich_mentalduck1631 5 месяцев назад
I agree
@apw9929
@apw9929 5 месяцев назад
Relative to the plane not to the ground
@advorak8529
@advorak8529 5 месяцев назад
But your head does not accelerate at all! It just keeps moving as inertia dictates, while the plane around you -seats included - undergo potentially massive deceleration.
@caldeira_a
@caldeira_a 5 месяцев назад
it's called relative movement sherlock
@matthiasknutzen6061
@matthiasknutzen6061 5 месяцев назад
Thats not how inertia works
@LaylaAlnuaimi
@LaylaAlnuaimi 5 месяцев назад
❤❤❤❤❤
@lawrencewhiting4927
@lawrencewhiting4927 5 месяцев назад
. . . . why don't they have air bags!
@Supersonic_av
@Supersonic_av 5 месяцев назад
can you fly on my pfp (ph-bva klm 777-300er)
@jojova3776
@jojova3776 5 месяцев назад
Who cares.
@riddimsucks
@riddimsucks 5 месяцев назад
nerd
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