I’m a promoter and have been to over 100 concerts in my life and I think that the biggest problem is that venues are overselling the shows and cutting corners to make more money
THSI RIGHT HERE!!! Went to see red hot chilli peppers at the hard rock stadium in Miami and that was THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM. I kid you not it was at maximum capacity.. could not even walk around to get food or use bathroom without bumping into people 😭😭
sooo true. i went to a nascar aloe concert in a venue that was EXTREMELY tiny (and upstairs) and there were so many people in there!! people were even sitting on the stage because there wasn’t any space. it was so filled and the pit was so wild that the floor was indented afterward.
They love to ignore promoter riders and claim its 'in house catering only". Artist that visit my venue are always treated kindly to their face and be little when backs are turned, Its unfortunate that house staff will get yelled at by tour staff cause the boss's boss said "reuse towel desipe the tour paying for new towels or you we wont upgrade your blown out subs."
I worked a shift at a sza concert and I felt bad for the people I had to reseat because ticket master for some reason decided to let different people book seats in the same spot. Man. Like the show was sold out, but luckily we had one. ONE seat available in the pit. Lmao, hope that fan was happy.
i saw a comment that was like “ *gen z who haven’t been to a concert pre-pandemic have killed concert etiquette* ” and i’ve been thinking about it all day
@@melisdantou i went to see both, it was slightly chaotic is all i’ll say, i’m gen z(on the older side lol) who hadn’t been to a concert pre-pandemic but does their best to follow concert etiquette
tiktok really messed up concert crowds bc it seems like, esp the younger folk, the entire time are waiting for THAT specific portion of a song that is a trend or viral instead of enjoying the show. Knowing they have videos of the concert takes them out of the moment and they just focus on getting a perfect recording bc they know they can replay it later
At Phoebe Bridgers earlier this year there was two young girls in front of us and one of them was clearly the “wannabe influencer” friend and the other was her videographer and she filmed her singing a long and dancing emphatically to E V E R Y song. It ruined the show for me because they had the light on so you could see her face and it was soo annoying and distracting. it was all I could see most of the time because we were at the back of the lawn, they were 5ft in front of us and there was no screen showing us the stage up close so it was literally all I could focus on. 😢 I wish I could properly explain how obnoxious it was. The faces and try hard of it all was 🥴
I went to a Lord Huron concert with my sister and were at the barricade all night! My favorite band ever and it was an amazing concert! But at the end they played their most viral song “The Night We Met” popularized on 13 Reasons Why; and ppl literally shoved in front of us and lost all sense of politeness and seemed like it was the only song the majority of the crowd new and waited for only for the “gram” 🤔
i agree with the tiktok point youre trying to make here, but it's verging on the edge of phones=bad. reminder that recording moments youll never get to see again and will remember for a lifetime is totally okay!! I actually tend to watch most of the concert and specifically record the part thats popular so i can remember it for later bc thats when most people will be recording :D
One of my friends is a really big Willow Smith fan and she went to a Willow concert like a year ago, and she said this exact same thing. She said Willow was getting annoyed with her own crowd because she kept trying to interact with them and tell them to mosh or crowd surf or do certain dance moves, and they were completely ignoring her and only trying to get the video for TikTok. Most of them didn't know any of Willow's music except for the tracks that went viral, and even then they only knew the one little snippet of the song that is used in TikTok videos and such.
Literally. I was at this music festival which has dozens of artists and a few popular artists. Of course, more people came to a certain stage if someone well known was playing and they were pushing past to get closer to the stage and for a better view. The pushing didn’t annoy me so much, but I’d see the same people that were so desperate to get closer but were literally on their phones. If they weren’t on their phones then they’d look bored as hell barely tapping their feet. They would start filming at like 1 part of the song that everyone knew, would be jumping and making the video look so fun then go right back to standing around.
i can say with confidence that heavier music concerts are so much nicer than more popular concerts. i have fallen over multiple times in pits and no matter what, every single time, i get picked up near immediately and asked "are you ok? you good?" from like 4 different people around me
omg I desperately want to get into a pit at some point but I'm a really small person and I'm so scared someone will get properly hurt, be it me or whatever poor tall person who trips on me lmao
@@Smiley_Fruitcake as someone who goes in the pit and it 158cm tall (abt 5'2) , I can tell you that, yes there will be times you will get hit in the face just because your face is where elbows are. but don't let that stop you. if someone hurts you seriously, if it's a smaller crowd, they probably will come up and ask if u r ok. also just judge the crowd. if it seems too aggressive for you then wait it out and see if a smaller/calmer one forms. also, don't go in the death wall... or at least not before you have been into more aggressive pits.
@Dace thank you! I'm thinking of getting into one next time I have friends with me. I'm 4'11 so they're used to being dragged around as tall support lmao
back when I was a baby metalhead, the adult metalheads in the crowds taught me everything I needed to know about concert etiquette. How to headbang, how to mosh(always help each other up when they fall), how to respect each other. At Bring Me The Horizon in 2012 I saw a "Wall of Death" (people dividing and then moshing into each other) and amazingly no one got hurt. Tbf, metal/punk concerts have always had the best vibe
Metal and punk easily have the best crowds imo, went to a cochise and Pierre Bourne concert and both just became a mass of people crushed against each other.
I had a girl check on me at the still woozy concert and like essentially held my hand to make sure I was okay I’ll never forget her and I hope she has all the love in the world
I remember going to a combichrist concert and there was this guy there wearing a gas mask and I honestly thing he was on drugs or developmentally disabled from his behavior. He was trying to force mosh pits and everyone was asking him to stop. some girl was next to me who was thin and short, like may 5ft tall (im 5'11") and he kept ramming into her and almost elbowing her in the face. She asked him to stop several times as nobody was into his mosh pit and I started shielding her from him after she asked him to stop several times until he gave up. Not everyone wants to mosh pit.
@@Zectifin I walked out on a concert once because of someone like this, I didn't even care about the money I spent by then because I was literally incapable of enjoying myself when someone kept getting in my face like that.
some people looked weird at me for dancing at a LADY GAGA concert, shes literraly saying JUST DANCE and most people around me were just sitting. We had loads of space btw. Fortunately some people at my side danced too
@@youknowwhat9911 Eh I personally think it depends, if it is a loud song and/or a song where your singing doesn't take away from the performance I think it is encouraged. However if someone is shouting lyrics poorly during a quieter song in the front and is overpowering the musician that could be annoying. But most of the time, sing along!
I’m a teacher and I think that in quarantine youngsters forgot the kindergarten teachings: how to stay in line, don’t punch your classmates, a public space is not your house, to be the center of the world maybe your desire but not reality …
For real. I also go to smaller rock concerts and I don't really see a change compared to pre 2020. It happens that you meet an idiot or two but they are the minority and not enough to ruin the show.
Went to Judas Priest in April then the Metal Tour of the Year (In Flames, Trivium, Lamb Of God, Megadeth) in May....Easily the greatest year of my life and amazing concerts! The Metal Tour of the year was hands down the greatest concert I've been to
apologies for that, god knows we're aware of the loud, rude ones in our stan circle which is sad because harry is a safe space for all of us queer kids :/
I’m a Harry fan, and I like to think I’m nice. I will joke around when people have an American or British accent (if I know them, I’m an Aussie that’s what we do). I will never hurt anyone because of the way they sound. That’s just mean
@@Jo.Dixon013 yeah that's good. there are good people everywhere, but no fandom is all angels. in EVERY big fandom there's rude, toxic, violent, or just generally shitty people. Army, Harries, Arianators, Believers, Blinks, Selenators, Kanye fans, Taylor fans, Eminem fans...you get the point. (and im a casual army and selenator too) the artist may not be bad people themselves, but fans DO somewhat represent the artist they stan, and even if harry (for example) didnt do anything bad, seeing his fans be toxic and defensive DOES have an effect on people's opinion about the ARTIST. it's shitty but it's true. i think the main reason so many people just have this general vague dislike towards harry is because his fandom worships him SO MUCH that the public reacts like "wtf he's not god on earth calm tf down" and that develops into a "he's not that good" and so on and on...
as a gen z who has been to concerts my whole life, post-pandemic shows have definitely not been as good, but what ive found is big shows/arenas are not worth it vibe is not good. small shows that are punk, rock, alternative, anything like that are the best shows and best crowd and most of the people at those have good etiquette and take care of each other. i personally wont pay to go to a big arena anymore, its just too impersonal and not good concert vibes
and i will add that it does depend on who you see as well, this past spring i saw grandson and opening for him was the nova twins and royal and the serpent, and it was the absolute best concert i have ever been to. i had no idea who the openers were but fell in love with them, the energy was insane, and another show i went to this year was amazing. so i really do think it depends on the band because when i saw phoebe bridgers her fans were the worst cant lie, they sucked
I’ve never thought about this until now but I 10000% agree! When I saw the Neighborhood a few years back everyone was taking care of each other and super cool! It was such a different experience then going to the Sweetner tour where people weren’t even standing up to shake ass! Like girl…. How are you not popping ass to god is a woman???
i got involved with the mosh pit because it started right behind me. i nearly lost a shoe and i fell on the ground but these 2 bigger guys picked me up and made sure i was okay before helping me out. I'll always remember u blonde bearded man and long haired lanky guy at the knuckle pit concert mosh pit in 2016 ♥️♥️
Mosh pits are such a dice roll. Either the people are really friendly and will watch out for you, or they're super mean and will purposefully step on you if you fall down or elbow you in the mouth for fun. I bent one of my teeth at a Dropkick Murphys concert because a guy kept intentionally hitting me in the face with his elbow and everyone around us thought it was really funny and they were laughing about it. I think they were on drugs. My friend and I tried to fight the guy, and both us and him got thrown out.
Went to MCR and they played Cancer for the first time in 20 years because of the break up and covid. Soon as they start it’s like everyone just stopped to calm own, put their phones away and sang together. It was such an emotional and beautiful moment. I supposed it’s because the band have been away for so long that most people at the concert are die-hard fans there to see their favourite band.
I saw them in Italy. Most amazing crowd I've ever seen. Everybody was so kind and helpful, especially close to the barricades. Amazing the effect they still have on people
Im a high schooler and i love mcr, i went to one of their reunion tour concerts a couple weeks ago and it was a blast! I hope my etiquette was okay tho 😓
Glad you had such a great experience seeing My Chem! I saw them at Riot Fest and it was an absolute case study in this phenomenon of post-pandemic crowds being awful (it wasn't JUST the crowd, so much is on the organizers, but a lot of it was basic festival crowd etiquette being ignored). The band was great though of course.
mcr's age lends well to there being a good variety in age at their concerts, meaning there's so much young blood keeping the energy alive as well as actual adults who know how to act at concerts
as a younger person, it’s definitely the younger crowds who are ruining my shows for me. whether its not respecting my space, holding their phone and videoing my view, or just being obnoxious to get the artists attention, it’s more often than not younger people. especially in pits some people just don’t know how to act
Omg I was about to elbow a girl the other night digging her shoulder in my back at MCR, like it's definitely the younger crowd (saying this at 18 makes me feel shitty) they're also just not as fun they don't know to move around
recent concert I went to had one group of friends who did all of this. girl decided at the last minute just as the show had started that she was going to get right in the front (like I get there's no hard rules on spots but cmon) and whip out her phone to film in my damn face. which opened a path for her obnoxious friends to come up. Had one guy right behined me yelling obnixious shit "[Arist name} WE LOVE YOOOUU!" like dude shut up, she doesnt care. Thats why I like being at the very front is you just grab the barrier bar and hang on and make it clear you are not moving for anyone. It really is hit and miss, some shows everyone is chill others there's annoying people. I've found people get more feral at festival type events than they do single shows but it really varies. You can't always predict it based on the artist performing either
@@91Vault yesss exactly I always suggest finding smaller artists that are like similar genres to the artist you like cuz then you're more likely to meet them and get a better spot and have a good time also tickets are pretty much cheaper
@@vozera723 thankfully (either by coincidence or design) my favourite artists tend to be small to mid level and based in my country. There’s a sweet spot before they become too big that they aren’t really worth seeing live
The issue I’m seeing with concerts recently is the prices and how damn expensive they’ve been getting. I think It obviously has to do with covid and the possibility of artists getting sick and having to refund fans and pay their crew members. And it doesn’t help how we all are struggling out here just to make ends meet these days. but I feel like the prices don’t seem to be worth it and it’s like taking a gamble paying a huge price for a concert and you don’t know if it’s going to be memorable or not
Yeah I've heard about concert prices being a pain. ..and since more artists are canceling tours, I think tours themselves may soon fade from existence. Instead, performances would be limited to contest prizes or a special fan request. Easier to get ready for one major gig than several ones within the timeframe of a few weeks.
I'll be honest, with superstars you pay way too much for a concert and then you get a seat two kilometers away from the stage... Thats why I currently only go to smaller artists shows
BROOO THIS RIGHT HERE. 2019 I saw RUFUS DU SOL for like maybe $40??? NOW… HOLY SHIT their tickets going for resale ONLY.. (no actual tickets being sold from venue) are $200…..
I was always a “people shouldnt have their phones out at concerts” kinda guy, but then i saw my favorite artist ever and was sad that i didnt get more videos. honestly i dont think it matters as long as you dont harm other peoples experiences. if you pay hundreds of dollars for concert tickets take as many videos as you want
I use my phone on gigs too, but only to capture the fragment of the best songs. Memories tend to fade away after time, but when I have the fragment of gig recorded and combine it with my memories, I can get clear picture of it again :-). Just for my mind only, don't need to send this on social media (while a lot of people do it anyway).
@@VeryImportantPoetryexactly! Sometimes you don't have the opportunity to go to another concert of that artist, so watching a recording of it brings you back in time and to the exact feelings you were experiencing there and then.
a couple weeks ago i saw The Rose, a rock band i really love, and the crowd was so unaware of how to act. one of the band members was sharing his *incredibly personal* feelings behind a song he was singing and the crowd wouldn’t stop cheering over everything he said. it got to the point where he repeated a sentence three times because he kept getting interrupted. ik it’s a bit of a small thing but it was really frustrating to see because english wasn’t his first language and the fact that he had spent the time learning how to convey his emotions and perspective on his trauma but he couldn’t even talk for more than five seconds just feels wrong.
Oh shit im so sorry that sucks :/ younger stans are so disrespectful. I saw bts in london in 2018 and the vibe was really good, seeing epik high next week and im a bit nervous but i think the people attending will be a bit older and not a bunch of tiktok stans. Hope the rest of the concert was alright, love the rose sm
I've seen this happen a lot to other k-artists as well. Like why the hell are you even cheering not letting them talk??? Do you not go to a concer to LISTEN to the artist??
omg i love the rose sm !! but i hate how ppl treat them + other artists :/ like yeah, i get it y'all r excited to see them, and that's valid bc if u pay for a concert, obviously u wanted to see whoever's performing. but have some respect? it's genuinely not hard. and if u can't do that, then don't go to concerts at all. the artists & the (respectful, normal) fans sure don't eant u there. also it sucsks how ppl treat k-artists too
I saw The Rose last week and I had the same experience. I could not hear what he said at all because the crowd kept screaming after every third word he said. It did not feel like they were really listening to him. People were screaming non stop which really took away from the music experience as well.
I hate when people are cheering at quiet moments at shows. The people who are doing it think they are supporting the artist and showing support but it's so disrespectful and ruins it for everyone who wants to actually listen
Went to see Coldplay recently and Chris asked everybody to put thier phone away for one song and it was AMAZINGGGG I felt so present and connected to everybody around me
I’ve worked in the music industry since 19 (I’m 27 now) as a bartender, a venue manager, merch, security, box office and now as a sound tech! I’d love to weigh in on this because I’m glad you were able to notice some of these things. The etiquette thing is so real. For example, there’s a tiktok trend where I guess you fall backwards; there was a show for a tiktok famous artist, so a lot of young people. Before the show these kids were CLIMBING ONTO THE STAGE (which is set up with expensive gear) TO FALL BACKWARDS ONTO IT AND DO THIS TREND. My bf was very satisfied using the talk back mic to blast “please get off the stage” thru the monitors and they scattered. Never in my life. In the industry, there’s a term called “punishing”; it refers to fans who go up to artists after the show and trap them into a trauma dump with no regard for other fans waiting to say hello to their favorite artists. This trauma dumping on artists has become more frequent. Please y’all, they’re on tour, it’s already hard to get thru certain songs for them bc they have to relive their own shit. Ask yourself, “is this a conversation for my therapist?” Finally, tours have gotten significantly smaller. Where previously you would get a tour manager, a merch manager, a videographer and instrument techs all touring with the band; now in mid to large sized tours, all these jobs frequently land on one person, sometimes even a band member themself. Also, venues are all understaffed. Venues are greedy af and don’t want to pay security what they deserve. It’s an extremely dangerous and important job and these people risk a lot to keep shows safe. A lot of us venue staff depend on shows happening, and we are still cancelling lots of shows because of Covid. Many folks have left the industry in search of stability. In my opinion, shows are not as safe. We had a hardcore show the other night where we couldn’t find any security to work. It was a small to mid sized tour, so like 250 ppl. There was a huge fight. Blood all over the bathroom. Nobody to break it up but other people in the crowd.
Woah, that's eye-opening. Thank you for this insight, it really helps give perspective to everything I've been noticing lately. I mainly go to smaller shows where everyone already knows eachother, but soon I'm going to an arena show for the first time and I'm hoping everyone there will know how to have a cool/safe time the way I'm used to.
i think the whole music industry is struggling tbf because many artists just don't make enough money from streaming and stuff and therefore can't afford big groups to help them on the road, as touring and merch selling are the only ways they make money, so it often has to be done as you said, by band members, or friends willing to help out for free.
Yup. Just reconnected with a friend who was a tour manager/sound tech - started out very similar to you. Left the industry for stability, shortly before COVID. Though, as much as he misses touring - said it isn’t worth it for the shit he deals with, in top of shorty pay; and now on top of all the COVID restrictions.
@@ghostinthearchives yeah, streaming is a huge problem too. Not to mention venues nickel and dining them if they’re independent, and labels nickel and diming them if they’re not
i saw them in istanbul with my friends last summer. their energy was perfect, we were very far away from the stage but we danced and had so much fun 100% recommend
also, I know people want to use their phones to record at concerts, and I get it. BUT when its every single person holding a phone in the air for the ENTIRE show it feels disrespectful to the artist and it kills the vibe. as a gen-z, I think we all need to learn to live in the moment
I dont like to film in concerts, in fact rhe other day i saw harry styles in madrid and i just filmed like 1 minute of sign of the times and that’s it, and i also dont get why people film all the concert… but tbh why is it a bad thing? like cant we just let everyone do what they wanr and experience things the way they want to? we live in a time where technology is basicaly everywhere at anytime, times are moving very fast and of course now the way of expericing things is changing… maybe for you, like for me, the more real way of experiencing a concert is to not film, but maybe for another person is the other way around… in the hsrry styles concert there were a lot of people filming and dancing and singing at the same time, why is that a bad thing? just think about yourself and let people live their lives how they want to, everything is subjective and what is good for you can be bad for me… (sorry for my english im spanish)
i so agree with you!! i was watching a kpop group perform on tv and not even joking it looked like every person in the crowd had their phones out, and it just makes me feel so bad for the artists because imagine performing for your fans and instead of them jumping around having a good time they’re just recording your every move…
Agreed, when I was a little younger, around like 2018-2019. I always had my phone out and was recording everything new I saw, when I was at museum, at festivals, anything fun and I don’t even look at those videos anymore. Everyone feels like they need to get a video and a picture to capture the moment, but they end up completely missing being in the moment trying to get a video for their twitter or Instagram. And the concert etiquette is 100% a gen z problem! Why are we so rude and disrespectful to others who are also there to see and support our favorite artists? It’s complete entitlement and personal selfishness. Hopefully we can grow out of it
I wish people would just stop trying to record the entire concert on their phones. I guess I get recording them for a minute or two, maybe to show your friends, but the entire time? Why would ANYONE want to do that? Aside from it being rude, it wastes storage space, you have to hold your phone up the whole time, the video is blurry anyway, there's most likely a more professionally recorded version of the concert on RU-vid anyway, and, as you said, recording it the whole time kills the moment.
even if a crowd is super super energetic, the excessive recording is just sad. i just wish we could have a good time for the sake of having a good time instead of having a good time for the sake of being able to prove to everyone that you had a good time.
This really was annoying when I saw Stevie Nicks. So many people recording and blocking the view to do so. A person a few rows ahead of me was filming on a mini iPad for the entire show, didn’t just enjoy it for one song.
I went to a Ariana Grande concert, and the show was great and all, my friends and I were singing and shaking our booties off. But the crowd was just dead. I barely saw anyone move, most of them were kids filming, and I get it, probably the first big concert but like.... you could tell ariana likely pretty mad/disappointed. So that was sad... I still had a great time, but I doubt she will ever come back to my city lmao
That's one of the many, many reasons I love Jack White, and why seeing the Raconteurs was one of the most electrifying shows of my life; he's banned all phones from his shows, and funnily enough way more people were up on their feet and enjoying themselves... it was actually really fun!!
I went to Harry Styles in October. Spent $220 on my ticket. My friend and I had AMAZING seats. We were dancing and singing along with the pre-show music, getting pumped for the show. Then, in comes this gal and her boyfriend whose seats were right next to ours. So cute. Glad he’s supporting her in her fandom. But then the show is starting and this man is 6’5” at LEAST. So tall and man-spread all up in my space and took up so of my room that I could barely dance. I said to him, “I’m probably going to trip if you leave your leg there because I’m going to be dancing.” He said “that’s fine.” ???? Like what??? LOL anyway girlfriend asked him to switch her spots after hearing my comment about his leg being in the way. And he was like “no, this is where I’m sitting.” On top of that, he seemed annoyed that my friend and I were singing and dancing along with Harry. Just such a jerk. It’s a CONCERT, not a movie babes.
i wonder who paid for the seats between the two of them cause that shouldn’t matter anyway 🙃 sat next to a guy who was w/ his gf & friend & he was just as big like you described this one, although i didn’t exactly tell him sorry in advance just in case as i had the end seat instead lol
Yeah we all run into our fair shares of asses at concerts. To be fair about manspreading though, mens junk is hanging out of their bodies and for men who are particularly sensitive in that area they may have to spread more than others because sitting can hurt. He should have had his girlfriend sit next you instead. He definitely doesn’t sound like a healthy person to be with, I feel sorry for the girlfriend.
He probably just thought you were a child and just nodded along when you spoke to him. He was actually, deep within, having an earth shattering musical awakening. He was having such strong emotions and strange bicurious feelings. All he could muster was to quietly do the most masculine thing he could do, man spread into your dancing space. When you finally spoke up to him, he was swimming in an ocean of musical lust for Harry and barely comprehended what you said. Give him a break he broke up with his gf that night and decided to follow Harry on tour.
Omg I had a similar experience! I went to an MCR concert last year and the guy in front of me kept turning around every 5 minutes and staring at me and my friend annoyingly. I was singing and dancing like crazy but like isn't that the point of going to a concert? I was so close to telling him something but I just ignored it. Still had a great time though.
I saw glass animals last year and the vibes were immaculate. The stage effects were literally INCREDIBLE. There was plenty of space and the energy was awesome. The crowd was also really nice and a lot of us were complimenting each others outfits before the show. A literal MUST SEE. Best concert experience to date!! Although I do see Arctic Monkeys in September and Im so excited :)
god, i wish to see glass animals live but i doubt they’ll ever perform in my country :,). I’ve seen videos from their concerts and it honestly looks so chill
@@lilianabohren9179 it really was, my friend and I went. We tried to stay off our phones (or at least record but still watch) but at one point we just recorded ourselves dancing and singing and the old man sitting next to us joined our video and I'm glad we have that on camera lol
Me too! I was sat next to this 70 year old ish couple and I made friends with the old woman. As the concert was at a stadium she kept checking in with me to see if I was too cold 🥹 She waved to me at the end and said goodbye
At my 5sos show there was a girl having a panic attack. And no one did anything? Her friends were trying to get her out of the crowd and no-one moved. My friend and I started being rude and pushing people away to get them out. It was the worst and I felt so bad for her
This was exactly my experience in a coldplay concert last week! I had a panic attack, I tried running to get away from the crowd and NO ONE would move, no one would help me, I was shocked at how people behave in the pit, like??? Maybe in any other context those same people would've helped, but in a concert (that hadn't even started yet) they're all more focused on their own shit and trying to be as close to the artist as possible even if it means stepping on someone else to do it
That’s so terrible i went to so many concert with my parents my dad used to check on people my age if he saw them getting nervous call security to escort people. My friend had a panic attack at warped tour when it was still happening and so was a girl near us her friend, they followed our group and people gladly moved. I’ve noticed though, smaller venues can be worse. I’m happier sitting away from the pit. 3 people passed out at a show I was at the other day.
omg that is awful. I always hear these horror stories from pop shows and it makes me think some metal heads need to start a concert outreach program to teach pop fans how to not be assholes. (i am a pop AND metal fan myself but because of these kinds of stories i avoid pop shows like the plague)
kanye getting mad at billie for stoping a concert to help her fans really pissed me off because i’ve been a fan of hers for years and have been to 7 shows! she was stopping shows for fans who needed help since the start, she stopped a show at the house of blues in 2016 for my me and my bsf who were sobbing to six feet under to ask if we were okay and gave us a hug and told us everything would be okay. she’s always been a extremely sweet person!
yeah she is doing what she should be doing !! helping fans should always be a thing. and it is coming from Kanye too like he is a creep why should anyone listen to his bs !!
Bless Billie omg❤️ Fuck Kanye honestly, is he even relevant after all the n4zi apologism he’s been doing? But bless Billie, she always seemed so sweet and so down to earth
He wasn’t mad at her for stopping the concert, he was mad at her for (supposedly) taking a dig at Travis Scott. I don’t know what goes through that niggas head tho
My first concert was Conan Gray with Girl in Red in 2019. There were probably only about 300 people. They had both only recently released their first music, so they weren’t anywhere near as big as they are now. Really was the best concert anyone could ask for.
The first few shows on Clairo’s recent tour were ROUGH. A lot of people being rude, shouting inappropriate things, throwing bras at her, and just being overall not great. She came out and expressed how uncomfortable she felt, and shows got a lot better since then, luckly! Makes me happy to see the crowd tuned around. I saw her in Austin, the crowd was cool. It was hotter than all hell in there though.
i saw her in chicago after her short break! the crowd was so respectful and loving. you could tell claire was nervous because she didnt interact with the crowd very much, but towards the end she was more smiley and looked happy once she realized the crowd was supportive. it broke my heart that people treated her so poorly. sling was very emotionally bearing for her and calling her hot during a song about SEXUALIZATION was just ... ick. i really hope she isnt discouraged from touring again :(
i went to her nashville show (2nd show on tour) and it was an amazing show but people were shouting things like “ily more than my boyfriend” and “you are so hot” during blouse. she was definitely a little uncomfortable
@@arhistokes9227 yeah that was unfortunate, especially since it was an already rescheduled show. her in-ear had a serious sound issue the night before, and she said she couldn’t continue without causing further damage :( i bet she’s devastated
I’ve never heard of anyone else getting post concert depression. After my last concert it hit me HARD and I thought I was just being crazy. It was nice hearing that is an actual thing lol
It is actual thing. Ask any BTS fan. BTS even directs their concerts the way to minimise post concert depression. They say "it's last song" then change into casual outfits: jeans, tshirts and perform another 30-40 min This way brain already prepares that ending approaches and you don't get as abrupt of a crush. There is whole article about it somewhere
Post gig depression is known as many things depending on context. Basically when you're pumped full of adrenaline and all those kinds of hormones, you can run out for a while afterwards which can mess with your mood. Personally I just call it drop since that's fairly context neutral.
It's because of all the evil spirits attached to a lot of music out there that get released at concerts on the people that are enticed by the music. People need to get educated about that. The evil energy messes with your dopamine levels.
FINALLY I'm seeing more of this take. Some people have become so wrapped up in this "main character" way of thinking that they believe the entire show is catered solely to them. Concerts used to be a place to connect with the artist and with those you share a music taste with. Unfortunately, we are seeing it becoming just another place for people to over-record to prove they were there to those who follow them. I also think more artists are taking mental health time off because their own fans view them more as a product to suck content out of rather than a human who is trying to share their art, and at times the more vulnerable part of themselves, with the world.
it's that common phrase of people yelling or typing "where is the album!!!!". I even saw a comment on an artist's instagram where they were doing something acoustic and posted it, someone was like "if this ain't the album then I don't wanna see this". like WTF? do these people really even enjoy music or art? it's like give me the album - yes, the artist is going to press a button and out comes the album. jeez.
@@mistress.villaina7591 exactly this is why I love the Louis Tomlinson fandom (and 1D fandom) because it really feels like most of the hardcore stans don’t really care about “new” music, we’ll get hyped when he’s gonna come out with a new album, but we’re not just there to get the album content, we’re there for the connection with Louis, we’re there to stream his songs on repeat analyzing the lyrics, we’re here to look at the unreleased songs and just sit there in amazement wondering how it didn’t make the cut… most listeners now don’t end up being anything more than casual fans of people I feel like, so they’re not in it for the artist/person but just for their music. (and I mentioned 1D because we are the prime example of this they literally haven’t been together in 6 years and haven’t released anything and we still are here supporting their new content and current lives and reminiscing about the old stuff and even though we want them to get back together someday nobody thinks they “owe” it to us and we really just want them to be happy)
I am a music teacher, something we have to cover is concert etiquette, I would love to be able to show this to my older students in class, but I can’t play anything with profanity. I would love it if you did another version of this video with no profanity, this would be great for teachers to show teenagers when we talk about concert etiquette ❤️ great video, very educational and important to talk about because many people do not know how to attend concerts
I suggest recording the video and using editing apps like capcut to edit out the curses, since I’m sure the creator Nikki might not see this. It might be a real process, but it would help you get the entire video without the pieces you can’t show.
I feel like yes it's an artist's responsibility to stop the show if they see people passing out etc, however venues and management should collaborate in order to make sure that amenities are available, and shows are not overbooked.
true, also i went to a billie eilish show recently and everyone had to throw the cap of their water bottle away before entering. I still am not sure why we had to throw them away but most people drank all their water before billie even came on so that they didn’t have to worry about spilling and stuff. Because its super hot in the venue and people had no water towards the end of the show of course people passed out. Idk didn’t make sense to me haha
Yeah the truth is that fans have been using drugs & booze, overexerting & then fainting (or worse) at performances since the beginning of human civilization. It's hard to put that responsibility on the artists, but ofc if a crowd is out of control that's going to create bad press. Legally, it's very complex which party is responsible for safety. It depends on the contracts between the venue, management, etc.
Went to Yungblud recently. Absolute Carnage. He's a rock artist. Flamethrowers on stage. Crowds of thousands pouring with sweat. Upwards of 40, if not 50, degrees in the pit (in Fahrenheit, that's 105 to 122 degrees). Security seemed more focused on making sure everyone stayed in their pen and didn't run the stage than getting concert goers water and medical attention. There was no way any of us were losing our spots at the front of pit to line up at the arena's canteen and buy a water. Security usually hand out cups of water on trays that get passed around the pit before and during the opener for this very reason. They also usually turn the air conditioning to extremely cold because everyone knows 10 000 people in a room dancing is going to get hot. They didn't do either. About 15 people PER SONG had to be dragged over the barricade at the front of the pit because they'd passed out. The venue, management and security were 100% responsible for the chaos. I heard many people afterwards discussing the similarities between our show and Astroworld. The greatest difference was the culture of Yungblud's fanbase and the fact he stopped the show multiple times. If not for those, it could've gotten really out of hand. Keeping people safe and making sure they have a good time is definitely a collaborative effort.
thinking about how i used to go to post-hardcore shows when i was 12-15 and women used to watch over me and create barricades around me to make sure I didn’t get hurt. i hope they’re doing great 💛
yes! i’ve always been the friend that keeps an eye out for everyone at festivals. somebody started this mosh pit and my friend (who’s 4’11) got pulled in before it started, and a guy pushed her back and helped her out🥹 it’s so heartwarming. sadly this isn’t a common occurrence and most people simply don’t care. mosh pits are not fun and ruin the whole experience.
Omg same but at metal concerts it would be the males that would protect me no lie and one time the security guard actually kicked a dude out for trying to touch my boobs. See I was 16 and I was just dancing with new friends
Also I feel like we need to talk about TikTok’s roll in the crowd. I went to two 5SOS shows this past tour and one was DRASTICALLY better than the other. Why?? Because one crowd you could tell was heavily true fans. The other crowd I was surrounded by underaged kids drinking and screaming about how they weren’t singing the song from TikTok. The energy was just so drastically different because half the crowd was only there for a single song they heard 15 seconds of on TikTok
I also went to two different 5sos shows and it was the EXACT same way. The people around me at the first show were absolutely amazing and went just as hard as I did, but were so kind and at the second show it was teenagers in the lawn just there to get drunk. It’s just annoying :/
Damn that sucks for the real fans who missed or couldn’t go to the concert . I have no problem with people going to an artist’s concert that they’re not that familiar with but at least be a good sport abt it and respect the artist and the real fans who actually came bc they genuinely love the music
I went to see 5sos too and I can’t imagine having a crowd like that, I think I was lucky to have a crowd filled with true fans and everyone was so lovely.
i went to a mitski concert earlier in the year and that crowd was so suffocating as soon as mitski came on stage it was like everyone squished so far to the front that you could touch like four people around you without even moving.
The crowd at the mitski show I was at was so mixed. She asked several times for phones down. Some folks by me were chill, but others were calling her mommy and screaming that with phones up. One person had their ipad up with FT on and brightness all the way up,,,, to that person, you suck. No need for brightness to be up. Also, was disrespectful to Mitski’s wishes :(
I have a seriously negative opinion of Mitski for her stupid "oh we're sharing a moment" bullshit, but I also kinda feel bad for her because her fans have mistreated her so badly. Yelling out weird shit at her concerts, calling her "mommy" and screaming overtly sexual things at her while she's trying to perform, sending her creepy pictures on Twitter. It's no wonder she has such bad opinions, she's been traumatized by her own fan base.
i saw mitski on tour in philly and the crowd was so nice everyone around me was friendly and i had such a good time, she didnt rlly ask abt no phones, and we made a game of catching water bottles thrown into the crowd when it got hot and passing them through the crowd to people that needed them. not my first concert, but my favorite for sure.
ashton from 5sos recently had heat exhaustion in the middle of a show outdoors in texas and they had to stop the show and the amount of fans on twitter who were genuinely so angry BLEW MY MIND!! and the people trying to find him at the hospital??? in my literal lifetime of going to concerts its never been this bad :'0
I just saw someone saying Harry styles cancelling a concert was the worst day of their life. He cancelled because there was a shooting nearby that killed 3 people
in May this year I went to my first real concert post covid. It was of my all time fave artist MARINA. Beforehand we got an email from the venue that the artist requested nobody would you their phones and that everybody was allowed to film and photograph during the last song. As a stan, of course I did not pull out my phone, but so many (younger) people in the crowd did and it annoyed me so much. Please just respect the artists requests, how hard can it be?
I desagree with you on this one. I personally try not to get my phone out while during the concert but that’s my decision. Sometimes I get “annoyed” by people filming the whole thing but at the end, that’s non of my business. People pay for tickets. I feel like they have all the right to record the concert no matter that the artist “request “
I mostly go to metal/rock concerts and don’t really have much to compare them to but the crowds at heavier shows are just so amazing. People are nice to eachother, they even help pick up stuff you drop on the ground by accident, theres no pushing outside of the mosh pits and nobody gets angry when you try to get back up to your friends at the front. Love it.
it's so ironic that most of the hardcore shows I went to (punk, rock, metal) where you would expect people to rage and be inconsiderate and potentially injure you were one of the most enjoyable shows I have gone to and the crowd was always polite and considerate and took care of one another, whereas the more pop/mainstream shows were usually pretty awful in terms of the crowd and people were just straight up rude and mean to one another.
Same. Im a Fan of a German hip Hop Band thats the embodiment of being antisocial, addict assh*les (it’s satire) and the concerts get really wild. People drink disgusting stuff to get a free t shirt, drinking/smoking on stage. Meaning the fans are also kind of wild, still every mosh pit people take care of each other, check on each other, no pushing or obnoxious screaming They just really enjoy singing and dancing along
all these pop artists like travis scott try to be "punk" or whatever think moshpits and raging is senseless chaos, nah you still have to use etiquette no matter how hard the music is
Tip: keep clapping until the lights come on, there's almost always an encore Also, the worst part about recording the concert is it blocks the view of everyone behind you. I've had to watch concerts through a phone screen because so many people were holding their phones up and recording that that's all I could see.
I'm 6'2" and concerts are probably the only time I feel it is an advantage. I can't find pants that fit, theme park rides barely fit me, I was always in the back of class photos or last in the line. But at concerts I can see over the people filming with their phones.
Was on primavera sound this year and for real no one chants/claps for an encore anymore idk i always feel like thats saying "your show was mid" to the artist.
I’m not a fan of concerts, I find them very overstimulating and draining, but I feel like the vibes are just… collectively off. While I love the self-love journey so many folks have been embarking on lately (myself included), I think there’s a real pendulum swing towards selfishness and “you don’t owe anyone anything ever.” It’s causing a real mess because people are much more callous and entitled in public spaces than they used to be. I’m sure it’s a mix of lack of emotional regulation due to chronic stress from the Circumstances, but the shifting cultural norms are also a thing. Like honor yourself as a person, create a nourishing home within yourself, we love to see it, but please remember that you (collective you) are not the only human. Compassion still matters.
you perfectly put into words the feelings I have towards the "love yourself" movement that I have never quite been able to put my finger on as to why it bothered me
@@chlorox01 I’m glad! Honestly I’m VERY passionate about people, especially women, living more free and vibrant lives but like any trend people will take it to extremes.
I've noticed that too! Like it's definitely good to know your self worth and not take shit from people, but empathy is so so important. I feel like people write off kindness as weakness a lot more now. But having emotional connections with others is what makes life worth living to a certain extent
One of my first concerts after COVID was Lizzy McAlpine, and I swear I've never been in a crowd like that. People were so rude? They would catcall her and a few people shouted song requests? As if she doesn't have a set list. Like she doesn't live to serve you. I feel like she hated the crowd too, because by the end she barely talked between songs and looked like she was just trying to get through it. The crowd was younger than they usually are at the concerts I've been to and I'm wondering if growing up with social media also makes people feel like they can ask more of a musician. When I went to the Script at 17 I knew for a fact they had no clue who I was and social media was a bit of a thing already but in no way like what it is now.
17:05 This was during Harry's show in Antwerp and that wasn't the only "incident" during the show either. People were booing when he announced the "Disco Medley" and kept screaming at him to sing "Fine Line" or "Medicine". It's okay when you make funny signs to encourage him to potentially sing those songs, but people need to remember that they are not entitled to demand an artist to sing a certain song. I felt like you could tell those kind of moments upset him as well. In the end, we're all here for a fun time, and we should just enjoy what we're given.
harrys fans are become so entitled its actually a joke. Im devastated for him because he seemed so carefree during this era and fans keep getting unnecessarily mad at him for not wanting to sing certain songs. HH is an upbeat album, why do they expect him to sing a 6 minute long sad song during what he clearly wanted to be a more upbeat tour
i went to a beabadoobee concert last november and i had so much fun the openers were amazing, but there was a couple literally having the most vile makeout session in front of me, and everyone around them was visibly uncomfortable and/or talking about how gross that was, especially when everyone was supposed to wear masks. it was the funniest and most annoying thing ever 😭😭 also st that concert i passed out and the girls i had met around me made a circle around me and helped me get water, idk who they were but ily
I’ve been to a few of Bea’s shows and they’re so unhype which is so disappointing bc she’s such a great artist but it felt like only me and some people in the front row were actually rocking out and grooving everyone else was just recording 😭😭
im going to see her in october in nyc and im really hoping the crowd is nice. ive only been to one other concert and it was at govball and the crowd there was so disrespectful to her. i figured if the concert was just for her it would hopefully be a lot better.
Gives me flashbacks to when I was at a concert and this couple in front of me were drunk af and then started making out sloppily while music was blasting 💀
It’s crazy how much a crowd creates your concert experience. I went to two Harry shows this past year and had different experiences with both. I saw Olivia and 5SOS at the Armory and again, had different experiences at both. Olivia’s crowd was constantly shoving and I felt I was watching the concert through a bunch of phone screens. At 5sos, I had so many good vibes throughout and everyone around me was so nice (everyone waited 2 years for this concert so i feel fans wanted to have the best time of their lives).
omggg so glad you had such a great experience with 5sos, i really hope one day I can go to one of their concerts since they would never come to my country, but I would be attending a Harry's concert on November and I wanted to ask, do you have any recommendations? i would be standing the whole show so idk and it's kinda my first concert so would love to know more about it, thank youu
Yes I saw 5sos this tour and the experience was incredible bc the whole crowd was involved (never sitting, singing everything) and I had a totally opposite concert experience at the same venue the next weekend
@@camilaotalora8552 i saw harry last year and had an absolute blast! i was in the 200s section and literally everyone we ran into was so kind!! i think a lot of it has to do w harry’s vibe and the whole tpwk thing but strangers compliment u, take pictures for u, and make sure everyone’s safe (it was the same vibe at 5sos in the pit recently) i feel like fans of artists who preach love/kindness tend to follow through!
I also went to 5sos and Olivia, it was even in the same venue and the vibes were coompletely different. Starting with the line, at 5sos we just stood in line as you would expect and at Olivias concert people just ran to the entrance at some point and the whole line was gone?? We were all just standing in a huge pit and people were shoving and it was just awful. 5sos crowd was super chill tho haha
This isn’t at all indicative of the rock and metal shows I’ve been to “post covid”. The crowds had more energy than ever before everyone has been incredibly nice, the community is incredible at shows and my favorite crowds I’ve been to have been are post covid, but this sounds like pop crowds have been terrible
Metal/Punk people just get it. We've all been to dozens of shows and we know that everyone there is probably listening to that music because they're not "normal". we all share that bond and were there to enjoy it together :)
I definitely think the "pandemic maturity gap" has definitely affected concerts more specifically big arena/festivals. I saw Tame Impala this year (2022), and I actually saw them in 2012 my freshman year of college. I point this out because the difference between the two concerts was that now Tame Impala play arenas and in 2012 they played local mid-tier venues and thus have different crowds and vibes. Unfortunately, for this recent concert, it felt like a lot of college kids were going super hard with drugs because they had to stop the concert during the OPENER (Jungle Pussy) cause someone had passed out from intoxication and then thrice during Tame Impala's set. There was an ambulance outside when we left the venue and several college kids were getting pulled out on stretchers. Not because they were crushed or had physical injuries, but because they were just going super hard. I think this is why I never appreciated big concerts and preferred more intimate local venues. Better etiquette and generally more age diverse and thus respectful.
Same tho. I saw a Trailerpark (German hiphop) concert and the people there where 20-30 years old. Due to its nature of it being hip hop everyone was wilder and this band is the embodiment of being antisocial and stuff nobody was pushing, almost no phones where seen (eventhough it was their last concert ever) and the overall crowd was just great.
i went to a clairo concert not too long ago where my friend and i were seated on the balcony and NO ONE STOOD UP. during a faster paced song my friend and i stood up to dance (cuz clairo said we should!) and several people behind us yelled at us to sit down! people only stood for the last 2 songs
this happened when I seen conan gray a month ago !! I was having a blast up in the balcony and dancing to the upbeat songs and no one else was moving. I could even see the people standing and they just stood filming everting and it looked so miserable down there. I had a great time but it was so sad to see so many people there for social media content because that’s not what a concert is about
going to concerts where no one stands up sucks. i went to an ajr concert and it was so awkward cuz everyone was sitting down (this was mostly due to the demographic being 10 year olds and 40 year olds though)
I went to a Rico Nasty concert. They had free water which they advertised when we came in. She stopped for two people who fainted in the crowd and security was swift. There were a lot of phones but everyone was pretty respectful. I wasn't a Nasty fan before I was invited but I definitely left one with the general vibe and amazing performance skills of Rico.
I can’t speak for all kpop concerts but the artists that I’ve seen have the nicest and friendliest people in the crowd. They’re always so hype and full of energy and they’re respectful towards the artist and the audience
YES THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!! My boyfriend and I had a very similar experience at the tame impala concert except I had a girl tell us to “calm down and actually enjoy the show” ??? We were up dancing and singing to each other having the time of our lives. I don’t understand how people can spend money on concert tickets and not want to get up and enjoy themselves?? Hello?? That’s the entire point
I get it, maybe she enjoys music that way, but come on, concerts are meant to go a little wacko mode, where the artist feeds of the crowd energy, the endorphins are running in your veins, you don't care that you are sweating like a bitch and you make a connectin with a stranger by singing on the top of the lungs, if you can't handle that then maybe stand more to the side or if it's available buy a ticket on the seating area
That sucks; I had a similar experience with Metallica a couple of years back. I was the one guy in the row head banging so hard I actually got light headed and had to sit down just before the encores, and everyone else is just sitting there the whole time, arms crossed, frowning... you're totally right; just have some fun at the show, dammit!!
a friend told me recently in a show a girl behind her started pushing her and telling her to stop moving and jumping because she couldn't see... she was very young so we concluded it was her first concert because if not I don't get it
@@g.jvaughan1556 there's a weird archetype of so-called "metalheads" that act like shows are taking place in a library, I've noticed moreso for popular bands like metallica. There's a meme online for it that represents those people perfectly
At the MCR concert I was at they had to ask like three times for the crowd to step back because people were getting crushed at the front. I think I need to accept that I hate standing for big arena concerts because people don't know how to act. Been to small ones like Mariana's trench and had an amazing time where everyone was respectful and had a great time dancing together. Anything bigger and I just can't trust that people aren't willing to hurt people to get like a metre closer
were we at the same show? night one at the mcr concert in toronto gerard said the same thing. some 15 year olds in my friend's section started SCREAMING at some 30 year olds because they were talking BETWEEN OPENERS... the 30 year olds got kicked out! my friend was too afraid to have a good time and sing along because he was afraid of being kicked too. i have no idea what is going on with these kids...
I saw them in raliegh (and I'm gearing up for seeing them in Newark) and it was great, I was on barrier but didn't feel crushed at all, though I am anticipating a rough crowd in NJ. They've always had problems with crowd crush even in early days, so they've made it a habit (especially on this tour) to ask people to step back.
The same happened in Berlin at the MCR Show, it was horrible. MCR are my Favorite Band since... gosh... 15 years or longer and this was the first time i saw them live. I was so excited for this show and ended up hating it. Not because of the Band (even though i did not like the Setlist alot), but because of the Fans. There were A LOT of Teenage girls screaming and pushing and just knowing no limits and no respect for whoever was standing near them. MCR had to stop three times as well. On the other side, there were some guys from brazil who were literally punching there way through the crowd. I am usually right in the moshpit and i ended up going to the side of the Hall because i just could not deal with that bs anylonger.
You address mostly large concerts with rather mainstream appeal. I can really recommend for people to check out smaller venues with less well known artists (doesn't matter the genre). Small club gigs are just so much more intimate, and support the music scene more than these huge stadium events. I also didn't feel a shift towards more negative behavior in the 20 years I attend concert and play them in these kind of spaces. Support your local music scene!
honestly as someone who has grown up going to concerts, i agree 100%. Honestly even though I love fandom culture I feel like it has ruined concerts. The camping, the pushing, the lack of respect, just to try and get noticed or be 5 feet closer really ruins the experience.
camping for concerts has been a thing since forever, and it's fine to camp outside the venue for a few days to get barricade. the lack of respect is really obvious now, though there have always been people lying about friends they have to get to the front
Camping, pushing, and lack of respect has been the norm at concerts for the last sixty years. My dad grew up going to Led Zeppelin and AC/DC concerts and he says it was exactly the same back then, if not worse. People not knowing how to have basic respect for others is not a product of fandom culture; that's kind of just the way it's always been.
pre pandemic i went to a day6 concert (a smaller kpop band) with my best friend, and it was genuinely so fun and chill. there were all age groups there, and everyone was dancing and screaming to the songs. the band members even came off the stage to walk thru the aisles and say hi to fans (they would do this at all their concerts). it was genuinely so fun, and at some point they asked people to not record for a special segment and most people listened. smaller concerts like that are so fun and i never felt uncomfortable or annoyed by the crowd. i agree that the pandemic has ruined a lot of younger people's sense of concert etiquette.
day6 was my first ever kpop concert and it was so fun and everyone was so nice that after the show i couldn't believe how mediocre shows from western artists i've seen suddenly felt for me
Gosh the things I would do just to see Day6 preform live. Ironically tho tomorrow I'm going to my first kpop concert (kcon spin off tour) and I'm hoping it won't be a bad experience
i’m for sure working on it, but when i’ve found myself filming too much of my favorite life experiences including concerts, i’ve realized it’s out of a space of fear. i worry that i’m not enjoying a present moment enough, that i’m not present enough to something i’ve waited on for so long, and hope that somehow, capturing it will make it more real for me. it doesn’t work, but it seems to be the root of a lot of my filming and photos, especially at concerts
This is exactly how I feel! I was the person who recorded almost every song played at a concert because I didn’t ever wanna forget the feeling I was feeling in that moment. I’ve gotten better and try to only record my absolute faves, but I feel this 100%
My worst experience with concerts was Ariana Grande in 2019. I used to be a big fan of Ariana. The show was sooo bad it was laughable. More than half the show was listening to pre-recorded Ariana songs, like they just played them while the dancers were on stage. And not just a little clip of a sing - it was whole 3 minutes songs. She would sing, pre recorded song would play she go backstage and dancers be dancing on stage, she came back and sang a song then went backstage again. I guess her singing was good but the whistle notes were clearly also pre-recorded so she was miming. Absolutely ridiculous, me and my friend left early.
i saw AURORA back in may of this year, and she was SO incredible. between songs, she made a special point to encourage us to be gentle with one another in the crowd and reminded us to drink water, eat, and take care of ourselves first and foremost. it was one of the most polite crowds i’ve seen, and i was able to fully enjoy the show because of that. i wish all shows were like this because i’ve been pushed and punched so hard at shows, and it takes all of the fun out of the experience. people should be able to enjoy the music without worrying about sustaining major injuries
@@andi01452 i’m really glad that her crowds respect her and their fellow audience members. i think that her gentle spirit and deep compassion for people encourages people to create a safe environment for sure
The concert that really broke my spirit this year was Mitski and I was sitting in the balcony lol. I have only been going to punk, metal, or underground shows after that cause there is a mutual respect between the audience members (for the most part).
i went to see tv girl and they were great. but the crowd…had the worst experience of my life with two girls in front of me. they separated our group which wasn’t good cos one of us needed her medication and these two girls were blocking here from getting it. they filmed us singing and started making fun at us. one of them fell into me and knocked me onto the ground and she just laughed and didn’t apologise. started being homophobic to my friends and got into a screaming match with them. they vaped into this one girl’s face who has asthma and she had to leave the crowd even tho she politely asked them to stop. after the show it was incredibly obvious it was their first show. EDIT: they looked abt 15ish so originally i gave them the benefit of the doubt of just not knowing concert etiquette, but after a while it became obvious they were just rude.
I’m 15 and I’ve been to 6 concerts and those kinda people make me cringe cause I feel like since I’m in “gen z” I’ll always be stereotyped with those kind of people. But every concert I’ve been to lately have had really good crowds and I think only one time at a Billie Eilish concert someone threw up close to me and the friend of the person who threw up and these girls sitting in front of them got really mad and you could obviously tell that they had a little to much to drink. But this maybe because I always sit in actual seats and have never stood in the pit before.
@@majorh172 there’ll always be annoying ppl at every show sadly 🫤 they can be any age tho tbh, went to see the killers a month ago which had an older audience and me and my friends got judged for singing along to the opening act by this group of ppl abt 30+ years older than us. they didn’t know them ig cos they were a newer band but it shows that gen z won’t always be the most annoying at shows
omg im so sorry that happened to you! i went to go see Tv Girl to with my brother back in like early December. I love, love, love, the band with all my heart but the crowd; the crowd was okay and people were singing (kinda) but at times i feel like i couldn’t even sing as loud as i wanted to because the crowd was so quiet because they didn’t actually know any of the songs. I feel like i was the only one that actually listened to tv girl and listened to all their albums and not just lovers rock or not allowed because once those songs came on then the crowd got really loud. i feel like since TikTok, People are just going to concerts to hear the 1 or 2, 15 second popular parts of the “TikTok popular” songs that the band has made and not even pay attention or listen to the full albums or any other songs besides the virals one. So i feel like concerts nowadays are just filled with a bunch of fake fans from TikTok and so when they go to 2 or 3 hour long concerts just to only know 1 or 2 songs of course they’re not gonna have a good time because they can’t sing anything and are probably bored waiting for hours just for the only song(s) they know to come on therefore they throw off the whole vibe of the entire concert and even sometimes like in your story, make the concert a bad experience for everyone else. But that was my experience with them. They played really great though! great stage presence too plus just being able to see and listen to them in person and i got a cool t-shirt and vinyl so it was worth it. (agian sorry about your friend and the whole situation with her medication! i hope she was okay!)
As a gen z person who has gone to shows pre-pandemic, it’s honestly so crazy how much concerts have changed. I went to see 5sos at the armory in July and I had gotten VIP. During the Q&A, people (mostly young gen z) were shouting and screaming at them when they were talking and were holding up posters. After vip was done, they were bringing in multiple bags with merch into the pit and refusing to take some steps back. My siblings and I had been talking about starting a pit during a couple of their songs and we got a shite ton of kids and their moms giving us dirty looks. Like if your are in the pit at a 5sos show, how are you not going to start moving. We had decided to move to the back because of the amount of people without masks and straight up coughing and sneezing on my sister. I kinda feel bad for 5sos and other bands who have a younger following that have no concert etiquete
in a lot of the shows for the US leg of this year's 5sos tour, so many people kept on chanting for them to sing old songs that are 'jokes' in the fandom, one of the songs 'pizza' which is a 42 second long song abt wanting pizza even got put on the setlist because of it, and people kept on interupting their speeches because they were chanting the names of the songs bc they wanted them to play it and you could see on their faces that it kind of upset them. there was one show where the lead singer was talking and the crowd was quiet and he literally said 'wow you guys are actually listening to me' which is so sad when you think about it
i was at that show in nyc ! luke was so surprised we were actually listening to him:( but a group of girls ruined it by interrupting and singing heartbreak girl ....
@@destinyhunt8374 What the hell!! I really hope Australian audiences aren't like that this time around otherwise I'll be quite disappointed in the crowd.
@@Heroesrules1994 Australian audiences are always better with them, I'm going to the Melbourne one so hopefully it'll be good. I saw them last time and it was amazing.
I think that also has to do with the fact that most of the people who are shouting at them to do that are newer fans because they want to hear all of the songs that the boys made jokes out of and used to play at concerts. I've been a fan of them since 2013 and saw them in 2016 and no one was shouting about anything like that
Taylor Swift Concerts have always been so uniting and fun at the same time and because she has a giant projector showing her no one feels the need to try and get very close, which I think more concerts should have things like that.
I totally agree. I have been to 3 of her concerts and everyone is just hugging each other towards the end. I was even at the barricade during reputation when she walked through the crowd and a total stranger grabbed my arm and pulled me forward and said "I'm making sure you get to high five taylor". Literally the most loving and peaceful crowd.
@@yula3723 i think artists are less and less interested in doing it bc they like having cool visuals behind them. They have the cameras on them for a bit and then they’ll turn it off for a couple minutes to show some visuals
this isnt true for current times at all, if she tours again people will want to get close to her, probably camping outside of stadiums for days to get barrier
I remember for a moment people were throwing gifts at stage to Gaga in the Born This Way Ball and it become kind of a thing around other musicians that weren't as receptive, and then after the incident with the Manchester Concert it's part of the etiquette to not throwing anything on stage if you are in the front row.
I remember in fall of last year Rico Nasty was opening for Playboi Carti and she was getting booed off stage because she “didn’t go hard enough” and if you know Rico Nasty’s music it is intense, more then Carti’s. And it just makes me sick because he didn’t even try to defend her and it’s just plain out rude.
no that was fr so fucked up. her music is right up they alley of a playboi carti fan (i love both and it was a great show) so the obvious issue is just that the crowd was like 90% teenage male misogynists lol. such a large portion of rap fans are fucking horrible to women. coi leray is a recent example of the same shit but even worse
I saw Silk Sonic at their last Vegas show, and they forced everybody to put their phones in these "locked" bags that security unlocked at the end of the concert. It was amazing to go to a concert for the first time ever, honestly, where no one was holding their phone up. I really think more artists should do the same forced phonelessness thing because asking will never work.
Idk if I’d ever want to go to a concert where I don’t have my phone in case of an emergency. There’s so many dangers at concerts and not being able to call for help is terrifying. Cause even if security would call for a massive problem, if one person needs help not everyone is gonna do that or be able to help. I feel like that could be a problem waiting to happen.
I'd be gone. 1. I could have a medical emergency 2. My Babysitter needs to be able to reach me 3. Who knows if i actually get my stuff back. I will not give up my phone and risk any of that.
@@yourtrashtalkingbro9118 I don't agree with the practice either, but just so you know, the person keeps their phone on them, inside of the locked bag. They just have these machines that unlock them at the end of the show. So unless they drop it or something there's not much of a risk of them getting mixed up.
I went to a Declan McKenna's concert a few months ago and I was SO hyped and ready to dance. When my sister and I got there we were so disappointed. The crowd was lame af and some girls literally asked ppl who sang to shut up 💀 Nobody was dancing or singing when declan's songs are such a vibe and the man himself is going crazy on stage ! I actually fit in the "younger crowd" Category cause I'm 17 but I totally agree with you on the lack of fun people my age have. I went to Harry Styles's concert with some friends and it was one of them's second concert and she didn't want to dance?! She thought she was going to sit the whole show. It really is weird to me that during a show, people wouldn't dance because they're embarrassed. I feel like during a concert we can be whoever we wanna be and it doesn't matter if you don't know how to dance you're there to have fun not to "look good". So if anyone who's never been to a concert needs an advice I'd say be whoever you wanna be, dance as much as you want to and song at the top of your lungs. You're never gonna see the people around you again. You paid for your ticket so HAVE FUN (and be nice. If people around you are crying or dancing or singing don't judge them. They're just alive and happy)
imo dancing is 100% okay but i hate when literally everyone in the crowd is singing for the entire set and you can't even hear the artist. certain songs are meant to be singalongs for sure but don't ruin the experience of seeing an artist live by being so loud yourself, you feel
To be honest that has happened for years. Some concerts are just crazy whilst others the crowd are just dull even when the artist is doing a great job. It happens so I wouldn't let it put you off. Some shows hit different more than others.
funnily enough i went to a declan show least year and had the complete opposite experience - the crowd was so violent and pushy that it acc nearly ruined the experience for me. I went with two friends and we all ended up separated from each other for the entire show because people were literally elbowing and shoving us apart to move inbetween us and get closer, it was wild. And no diss to declan, i get people get tired and stuff, but the energy onstage did not match the craziness of the crowd he seemed very subdued lol...dont get me wrong I absolutely shake ass like nobodys watching at a concert but it was just so violent there i have never been so beaten up lol
I guess this is an unpopular take, but I love looking back at the recordings I made of concerts! I've been to a couple bts concerts in 2018/2019 and I still look back at the videos I took there once every couple months. I know I could look online for professional recordings of those tours, but at a concert with such incredible visual dynamics and audience synergy, it's a completely different vibe looking at my recordings. I do limit how much I have my phone out, but my first bts concert I recorded in pieces about half an hour of a 2.5 hour show and I'll watch all of it back and feel transported to that time and those moments. at more intimate/less visually impressive shows I find myself looking back at the videos much less, so I think in the future I'll just leave my phone out of those experiences.
This is one of the reasons why I adore small venue shows. Where I live there’s a huge local music scene & I’m so grateful for it. No one is on their phones, everyone is jumping around and having fun. When someone falls, they lift them up & get them water, because the artists actually know the people in crowd most of the time and want to take care of them. I hadn’t been to a lot of large shows, and when I went to Mitski I was like…oh lol. I felt so bad for her, the tik tok crowd filming just to post a video of washing machine heart and get likes off of it. During a quiet emotional moment of the show, they yelled ‘mommy’ at her. Actually disgusting. I’m younger gen z, but I think I’m less chronically online lol and I’m used to going to shows locally so I know when to be loud & crazy and when to stfu, which includes not yelling at the artists or throwing shit on the stage while they are performing. I went to a local (ish) show recently (wasn’t stadium size but bigger than I usually go to) where they played a super high emotion song about mental health, and asked the audience to be completely silent for the full 3 minutes of the song. Everyone listened, and even after it was over, we waited to cheer until the artist said we could. That doesn’t seem like a lot, but it was a pretty big group of people, and you’d NEVER find that kind of etiquette from a stadium audience.
Spot on. The intimacy between the performers and the crowd in small venues cannot be replicated. Simple as. It also depends what scene you're in. I'm really big into hardcore, and if you're at a hardcore show, the madness and crazy atmosphere, but also respect between everyone there, is absolutely amazing and i've never seen anything like it anywhere else. A lot of the time I feel, it's less about the music, but more about the performers, the art of controlling a crowd and delivering a good show has also faded I feel (this is down to many things i'm not going to get into right now, as we could be here writing for days).
@@natalie-3737 okay then yea i get that recording whole sets is crazy. i try to record a part of the song and then put it away just so i dont forget haha 😭😭
i think billie's actually always been looking out for crowds, even way before astroworld. i was a huge fan of her back in 2018 and i was able to go to one of her concerts. someone was getting crushed against a pillar, and she quickly stopped to get them help from security and asked the people around the person to give them more room.
@@jimbob2427 I still listen to her music if it comes up, and I think she's really talented, but I wouldn't call myself a stan or anything, mostly just a normal listener.
Something people have mentioned less is the treatment of the opening acts, and it is something that irks me so bad. I'm Gen Z bordering on Millennial, but I always treat the opening bands with the same amount of attention as I would the main band, even sometimes looking up some of their songs beforehand. I do get you're not there to see the opening band a lot of the time, but younger fans always talk (and talk rather loudly) over the opening band so much so you can't hear them. I find this is especially so at mid/large gigs, some of the smaller gigs I've been too have been a lot better for it/general concert etiquette.
@@t23001 Yesss exactly, I know for sure I've been to concerts where I was there specifically for the opening band, or I was just excited for the opening band as the main band. Sometimes I've lucked out and the crowd haven't been too bad, but sometimes it really has but a damper on the experience
THIS! Recently at a Phoebe Bringers gig the crowd were all talking so loudly amongst themselves over the support act that those who wanted to watch the band on stage could barely hear them. It is so disrespectful and something I have definitely noticed as having got worse post-covid :(
if you arent in the front like 5 rows at a gig you aren't going to be able to get water handed out to you during the show and anyone who isn't right near the back isn't going to give up their spot to go to the bar for water. Whenever you see someone who's passed out at a gig they are always in the middle where they can't get water. It's unbelievable that so many venues don't allow water bottles especially if people are going to be leaving the plastic cups from the bar on the floor anyway
I went to a mitski concert at radio city and recorded maybe three songs, then put my phone away. The crowd was honestly amazing and not too many people around me had their phones out. There was one guy sitting down in front of me though that was looking up “who is mitski?” 😭
I went to Radio City too! I didn't really know how the audience would be especially because almost all of us were teens, but surprisingly everyone was pretty respectful and enjoyed the show! and yeah there were people screaming but luckily there were no gross "mommy" comments directed towards Mitski
my post-tiktok mitski concert was.... bad? people were so loud and screeching the songs i could barely hear her. they sung every popular song, Very Loudly. i remember my first mitski concert being so chill.
i was there too and literally everyone around me in the mezzanine were sitting almost the whole show, but besides that i rlly enjoyed it and it was a good crowd tbh
@@elv42069 yikes...im all for ppl enjoying themselves, singing, dancing, vibing, whatever but if all i can see and hear is the audience and their phones that annoys the hell outta me. i saw mitski earlier this month and hadnt seen her before but i had a good time. concerts vary so much depending on who the artist is, what the venue's like, what the city's like....im rly sorry you had a bad time
i was lucky enough to see two harry styles shows this year and it was literally the worst crowd experience i’ve ever had?? ive been going to gigs for about 10 years and have always felt comfortable and supported in crowds, and at the harry shows it was very apparent it was every girly for themselves. for the first time ever i LEFT the thick of the crowd to jump around and dance with my friends. whilst still in the crowd i cried during a song and literally the girls around me looked at me like i was so strange? such a shame because harry and the band were incredible but that crowd my god
@@louvelvet I wonder if the style of the shows are kind of encouraging that atmosphere. There’s a big focus on fan interactions so everyone there is trying to have their moment instead of just sitting back & enjoying the experience
@@ramiyahlee6108 Both Jacob and Dean made me cry laughing. Kurtis’ set was PHENOMENAL. My dad doesn’t laugh in public very often, but he was laughing out loud so many times. My cheeks are still sore. It’ll be an amazing show, hopefully the crowd was as good as ours. You’ll have a great time!
This!! Ppl our age suck at comedy shows, it’s like no one knows proper etiquette. I went to two noel miller shows and there were people yelling/getting drunk/being overall annoying and it made me cringe.
i saw him a few years ago and some of the crowd was super weird, pretty drunk too considering it was a younger crowd and it was early in the day. ive been to comedy shows before where that didnt happen and he even called some people out on the shit they were saying
I’m not rich, so I generally can’t afford the big mainstream shows anyway, but honestly I feel like after watching this video I don’t even want to go to one of those concerts. I love a good concert, I try to attend a few a year and they’re usually small local bands doing cheap shows. I’m lucky that here in Dublin there are so many amazing local acts, and the people who go to these concerts are not really the ‘tiktok crowd’. The vibes are always through the roof in small theatres, filled with genuine fans who know how to act at a concert.
I went to an mxmtoon show earlier this summer, and it was my first standing room concert. My friend and I got there early and were practically at the front, so we could see everything! Both mxmtoon and chloe moriondo pointed at me and I think I ascended a little, but anyway. While the venue was pretty hot and very tiny, every person around us was so kind and caring, making sure everyone got water, and being generally respectful to the artists. The show never had to stop because of how attentive the staff and the fans were. No heckling, no shoving, and whenever the artists requested, the crowd would go completely silent. Had a great time, and as I read the stories in this comments, I'm even more grateful for that lol.
mxmtoon is one of my favorite artists, I couldn’t make it to her show earlier this year but I’m happy to hear that it was a great time!! hopefully I can see her next time around
this couldn’t have come to a better time, went to a concert (phoebe bridgers) last week where there was barely air con, three people fainted, one before the artist arrived and two while the artist was performing cause some ppl camped overnight or didn’t eat or drink beforehand. i think a lot of it might have to do with covid, my first ever concert was only last year cause i could never afford it but i understand concert etiquette and to be respectful. also camping has gotten a little crazy, even though it has been a thing for a long time, it’s gotten worse, like sorry but there’s no way i’m camping for 48 hours, even if they’re my fav artist. sorry for the long paragraph, i’m slightly passionate with this topic as a newbie to concerts lol
theres people in Argentina rn camping for harry styles. his concert is in december. i understand that they take turns to stay (i think they work and do things other than camp there) but omg still I COULD NEVERRR. its so not worth it to literally faint and be in danger just to see an artist for an hour
@@mimilinb8471 samee, i could never, i showed up two hours before for a harry styles concert, met up with my friends and still had so much fun even though i was far away. always safety first
for the water bottles problem: in Spain the standard is letting in people with disposable plastic water bottles as long as they don't have the bottle cap, they make you throw the cap before entering the venue (or people just hide it and take it with them anyways, but well), they can be full of water or juice or whatever, but no cap to avoid people being able to throw it onstage or in the crowd and potentially hurting someono
My first concert was the front bottoms in like 2016 and it was in a tiny venue about 200 people max. I loved every second of it. Everyone took care of eachother and the connection we had in the crowd and with the band I'll never forget it.
I went to a Rina Sawayama concert a couple months ago, and it was mostly amazing. There were a few people in the beginning who passed out in the front, but Rina requested that security pass out water to people in the front and afterwards it was fine. I was farther away from the stage, but I had a great time by myself. There was no pushing or shoving and no one heckled Rina. I don't know if it's because the people who listen to Rina are more empathetic/calm or if the people who were at the show were decent. Maybe the demographic of people who listen to the artist dictate how rowdy or rude the crowd is?
Its so sad to see that lots of people are so selfish and do not care about others that need help. At my Billie concert 2 girls were complaining about people sitting down while waiting for her because they were „touching their legs with their backs”. You could clearly see they couldnt stand anymore and that they werent well (i mean its 4 hours of just standing until billie comes on) I tried to explain to the girls that not everyone can handle this and that they just have to wait for the support act to start, when everyone would stand up again. I told them to have some respect and not be mad just because they care about their own health. They just rolled their eyes…….After that I walked around with candy and asked everyone if they were ok or needed some sugar !!! Its not that Hard to take care of others !!! THEN next to me a girl pretended to be LGBTQ, wrote “help me come out” on her sign and proudly said shes not even gay but Billie will definetely notice her…..😑 Why are These people always at the Front ??
literally! i post a few clips to my instagram of concerts ive been to so if i get a new phone or need to delete the videos for storage i can and it was always be on my insta
try me i forget it completely if i dont have a little bit. i saw one ok rock and hardly have anything from when they did save yourself and i absolutely don't remember it
That's fine, but just don't be that person that's recording most of the concert. It gets aggravating for the people behind you and for the artists when everyone is doing it
@@madisongirolamo6064 ppl can but so long as they dont hold their phones higher than their heads the whole time then thats when it gets annoying. I dont film full concerts completely personally.
I’ve seen bring me the horizon live twice, once when I was 16 and last year at 21, all I’ve gotta say for both times is: the people are full of empathy and solidarity, usually due to the nature of the songs there’s a lot of movement and since we’re all crammed in one space there’s bound to be an accident or two but when I tell you as soon as people saw that I was being crushed by someone or that someone was about to push me into a mosh pit when I clearly did not want to they stepped up to help. I will never forget this guy who held on to me for DEAR life for a minute straight when he saw I was almost ran over by the crowd opening up for a pit. He literally held me up and kept me on my feet until he saw that I was really okay, I’ll never forget that and I’ll be forever grateful.
The best concert I ever went to was Melanie Martinez before she blew up, back in 2016. The crowd was lovely, I was like 14, everybody was very chill and just wanted to listen with Melanie. She was late but I don’t blame her on it. I still love her sm
The best concert I ever went to was a Rage Against The Machine concert back in 1996 at the Tower Theatre. It was pure chaos and I remember I got knocked over a couple of times because I was right in the middle of the mosh pit so I had to move to the side of the crowd/stage out of the way. But I had a BLAST!!! 🤩
I'm an indie artist and I recently opened a show for the first time and lemme tell you you are so right about feeding off the audience. It is SO HARD to give 100% when the crowd is ded. I get no one knew who i was and luckily I got them hyped a couple songs and it went really well but concerts are for shaking ass!!!
I couldn't disagree more. I've been playing music for over fifteen years now and I actually kind of hate it when an audience gets all energetic and starts dancing and doing shit like that. I want them to listen to the music, not jump around and dance like idiots. Concerts are absolutely NOT for shaking ass. You shake ass at one of my shows and I'll club you over the head with a fucking tire iron.
Smaller venues, smaller crowds and smaller artists are always the best shows imo. I mostly go to rock or punk shows so i feel like most of the crowd is already more used to the whole pushing and shoving/moshing situation. Alot of these people know what to do when someone falls in the pit or someone gets hurt. I went to see Shame at a relatively small venue here in Belgium as my first 'post covid' show and it was just amazing. The engery of the crowd was so good, people who wanted to get crazy did so in the middle front of the stage and the people who just want to enjoy the music but don't nenecessarily want to go into the pit had the chance to do that at the sides and at the back, the way it's supposed to be i think.
Yea honestly I saw City Morgue and NASCAR Aloe and because the crowd is more made up of like hardcore punk fans it was already 2nd nature to us when it come to moshing and shit so we had no stops or water breaks or whatever. I feel like this issue she is talking about is more with non hardcore artist as they might have younger and less experienced audience
haven't been to a concert since i was 12 or 13 (covid + i wasn't old enough to go by myself, i am now) but im definitely looking at wayyy smaller artists to see atm locally, my first show was at a pretty small venue and i loved the feel of it. i think that younger & non hardcore folks should be aware of concert etiquette, what to do if someone falls or gets hurt etc etc. i also believe that younger people should go to a smaller show before going to a huge one but maybe that one's just me.
agreed, my first concert was at a bigger venue (big for my standard) anyway we had golden circle and yeah it was pushing, weird looks from drunk guys, yeah it was a little uncomfortable. the music was great. However when I went to see Conan Gray which was a smaller artist, and we were at a smaller venue. The vibes and everything was different. Everyone enjoyed it, he even got us to sing the birthday song for his crew member in our own language. (which he preferred to the American one) lol but yeah id rather go to a smaller intimate concert than to a big one
i went to a panic at the disco concert earlier this year and there were some 20-something adults next to me in a group, and they’d moved to the seats behind me because they saw other people they “just wanted to be with”, the opener (fletcher) sang a song called becky’s so hot and made the crowd chant the title for like 20 seconds and throughout the show (also during panic’s set and even as we were leaving) they’d keep chanting it over and over and not quietly, they were screaming. they were also getting very very drunk which sure you can do that but it made the concert experience really bad as the more drunk they got, the louder and crazier they got
My rule for events is take a couple of photos for the first song for my scrapbook then put my phone away. i'll only record a video if they play an obscure track they rarely play that personally means a lot to me, because i genuinely go back rewatch those videos over and over!
I saw The Weeknd a couple weeks ago and it was an incredible experience. The crowd was having the time of their lives while also being very respectful. It gives me hope that good concert experiences are still possible lol
I was close to going to one in my city Houston but he cancelled it. I did watch his Coachella event in 2018 & it was amazing. I wish I went to one cause I was a huge fan of him since finding him out in Love Me Harder featured song of Arianna
It has to be so dehumanizing as an artist to look into a crowd and just see phones staring back at you. people live for content now instead of just living in the moment like you'll look back at that concert and just remember stressfully trying to record every second or seeing it through your phone screen.
I'm so glad you made this video cos I thought this was all in my head. Crowds have gotten horrible. I was at a music festival, my friend and I went and checked out this one DJ we didn't really know it was mad hot so we were a couple steps back from the crowd just vibing, this group of girls, we had nothing to do with, pushed through us and started dancing really aggressively in front of us elbowing us and giving us side eye. I thought it was all in my head.
Honestly, I've experienced really lame crowds recently. People sitting the entire show, not a lot of dancing, no loud singing... the further away from stage, the lamer the crowd...It's really sad and ruined some shows for me... It's like people need to learn how concerts work again
Personally, I need to sit down from time to time during concerts because my body doesn't enjoy me standing for long periods of time, so I get really excited when I'm going to a venue with chairs, but I can't imagine everyone just sitting for the full show without doing any dancing or singing even :(
@@moe-gy5se I mean in your case that is not a problem at all, that's what the chairs are there for. It's great that you don't let your body stop you and are still enjoy yourself! :)
To be honest, I've been to quite a few concerts but the stand out for me has to be the second Troye Sivan concert I went to. I got standing tickets and instead of going right to the front to be able to see him better me and my friends hung round the back and I honestly had a WAY better time at the back dancing with my mates than I would have had, had we been in the thicker part of the mosh. The crowd around us probably wasn't as hype as those in the front, but me & my friends just focused on us, literally best show I've ever been to hands down. Can't recommend the back enough tbh
i went to a twenty one pilots concert (i miss when their tix were $30 like you said they’re $100 + now😭) in tx literally right before the Astroworld disaster and one thing i will say is their security is on it. everyone was considerate and no one was pushing (on purpose) and the security was giving water and making sure everyone was okay. most of the crowd was 16+ and everyone was super kind and most talked about seeing them pre-pandemic. newer concert goers just don’t understand concert etiquette.
i saw harry during his US tour last year and he is such a great performer and all of his shows have the absolute best vibe with people dancing and just having a good time. the concert i went to was totally normal, fun vibes until the very last song when some fans in the front threw a lot of water on him and he seemed to get pretty upset. obviously he just continued with the show and didn’t let it slow him down but i could even tell that he was prettyyy pissed getting off stage. it’s completely understandable bc it’s a safety hazard for him since he dances around a lot too during his shows. it’s just a lesson of thinking before you act when it comes to a lot of this stuff bc at the end of the day the performer is human too.
the thing especially about harry and the water during kiwi is he was usually ok with it at a very specific time (towards the end of the song) but people kept throwing it through the entire song making it so he couldn't dance and jump around as much as he usually does and thats what made him upset. i also think harry is pretty lenient on what fans do/throw on stage compared to other artists and people take advantage of it
The worst concert I’ve ever been to was Melanie Martinez back in 2015 when I was 16 years old. The same thing that happened at Travis Scott’s concert happened there except it was a smaller venue and the people getting trampled were dragged out by their friends and taken outside. AND To top it off, Melanie Martinez had SUCH a bad attitude. She yelled at us for “screaming her lyrics too loud” and she even walked out at one point saying she didn’t even know why she was here because she didn’t want to be. She shortened her set and ended up walking off without saying anything at the end and we all just stood there confused. The best concert I’ve been in a while was Fletcher. Just a bunch of lesbians being happy and nice to one another obsessed over the same woman LOL (including me, and I’m straight) she also signed a lot of people’s b00bies including mine during her set ahaha - 10/10 recommend
@@allymaechoklit604 I agree she’s human but from the second she excited on stage she claimed she didn’t want to be there. Also the trampling happened mostly because she kept telling us to jump. And aren’t you supposed to scream an artists lyrics at their concert? Her attitude was just bad. Period.
