Doubt you will see this message but I'm going to try anyways. I started playing disc golf about a year and a half ago. The majority of my lessons have come from this channel. When I started, I struggled to throw 150' now I average over 400 with several throws reaching 500'. All of the advise you have given for free to everyone is so helpful. Thank you for all you do for the community.
If you comment in the first few hours of his videos you can usually get a response. Congrats on reaching 400 bro!! I’m getting real close to 400 finally. At the beginning of summer I considered 300’ a pretty good drive for me, and now, when I throw 300ish I’m a little bummed about it. 330-350 is my current average just a few months later and I am maxing at about 380
@@bbd1254 That's amazing! You'll hit 400' before you know it. Now I really need to focus on Robby C's putting videos lol. I've discovered that distance doesn't mean anything if you can't make a 10' put. 😄😄😄😄
Thanks for the video as always Robbie, and love the sharingan dye on whatever disc that was! You doing anymore dye videos?! Would love to see you tackle some more.
@bbd1254 I don't know if there's anything I started doing specifically to be honest. Just noticed I was going long on 250ft holes with putters one day and I needed to stop throwing as hard as I can with a putter at those. I also do most of my field work with putters.
@@JonnyEsports I should probably start doing field work with my putters. My field work has always just been throw 10 drives for max distance across a field, and then do it again until I get too hot. My pointer finger currently has a fresh callus and bruised because I’ve probably thrown like 300-400 drives this week.
Every “bladed rim” that touches my 59-year old hand from 5-speed and up goes exactly the same distance for me (less than 300 feet). The higher the speed, the more I try to muscle it and get the exact same distance. Maybe this “confession” on your channel will help me finally change. Haha. Thanks so much Robbie for your kind, relatable, and encouraging way of teaching.
As someone who wholeheartedly hates throwing distance drivers, this makes a ton of sense that we subconsciously are trying to do more. Something else to look at for me!
Audio is way more important than video quality. A lot of people seem to miss this. They want the best of the best 4k crisp and clear shots but they just use the built in audio. As a film maker I’ve spent more on audio and different kinds than worrying about video. I do have something that can shoot 4k but I rarely do because the file sizes are insane even when I have a few 128gb sd cards.
I am looking for good microphones. Do you have any suggestions? I was hoping Robbie would tell us what he uses but no such luck. Would you happen to know which microphone he has?
I totally agree with trying to muscle every driver. I was just thinking about this recently and how I should go to the field and throw all my drivers smooth.
Y'all hating way too much. If everyone in the comments are experts, then why are you watching 'Beginner' videos in the first place? I think he makes some great points. I'm still pretty new to the sport but at least for me it's a combination of these things. I throw harder and try to muscle the disc more for when throwing drivers which then also leads to nose up and obviously less distance.
Many people struggle to improve because they're too busy posting both grammatically incorrect and hateful comments on helpful tips videos to analyze and self-reflect. You hate to see it.
I'm 100% in the group that tries to throw harder with drivers. Been filming myself in slow-mo for a few weeks now, and the biggest thing I struggle with is collapsing the power pocket, losing that 90° angle between my shoulder and upper arm, because I'm trying too hard to throw instead of just keeping my swing smooth.
Most people are not doing athletic movements nor getting a whip motion from the wrist. Angle this angle that... blah blah.. Check out slingshot disc golf. Athletics are universal. At Some point in the past the out of shape 30+ year old beer gut cigarette smoking uncle made up the rules for throwing a disc golf disc and due to institutional inbreeding it has spread and held back good athletes for a solid two decades. Sports are sports are sports. The gatekeeping is over and athletes are taking over as it should have been 20 years ago.
I noticed this exact thing the other day in the field. I haven’t ever really tried to throw full power putters or mids and when I did I was getting good snap and pretty good distance. Then I tried some drivers after those throws and it only went like 50 feet farther lol So I consciously decided to throw some 6-10 speeds just like I would a putter and got close to 400ft with a 9 speed (Axiom Insanity) It felt like I barley threw it and it just kept going. Turns out “smooth is far.” Take notes from the 3 step walk up throwers that can crush. i.e- Corey Ellis and Matty-O
I've been playing for 20+ years but switched to lefty after an injury (healed now) and realized the incredible advantage to playing ambi. I rarely use a forehand anymore outside scrambling, which was my primary shot for a decade. That's partially due to my injury being pitching related, but I'm healed now and throw FH and BH the same distance.
I switched from lefty to righty after a shoulder injury. I never went back but randomly being able to whip out a little lefty putt or approach has been quite useful. I just discovered that turns out despite being lefthanded I do pretty much all sports related things right handed (no idea why I didn't think about that when I first picked up a disc) and my righty forehand is probably my biggest strength.
I live in a weird land of being really comfortable with throwing putters and drivers. Yet mids I'm much less confident. But this video still speaks well to this coming from the mental side of the game. The depth of them gets me off a little. Then I over-worry about my grip, then try to focus on things I don't when throwing other discs, getting poor results.
For me changing from powergrip to fangrip changed everything. I need to be smooth because there is less fingers keeping the disc in place. I feel I get way more spin because front loaded grip. I feel like my nose angle and release is so much better. It just changed everything. Never used powergrip since.
Me too, keeping a consistent angle with a "power" grip is really difficult for me. The fan grip only reduces your spin rate if you're not front loading.
RU-vid-man, what do you think about throwing beginner friendly drivers/understable drivers to "fix" concept 2? Like throwing a Diamond, that are really flippy but still is a driver and feels like a driver in the hand. But you need to be super smooth and "slow" to not overpower them.
definitely a solid idea to get that driver hand feel. I love the super understable/touchy discs, because that low power finesse shot they ask for comes up quite often in scrambling!
Understable discs are the exception to the rule. A very understable driver (like a 155g Diamond) has the stability requirement of a slower disc. Therefore the arm speed to maximize the potential of that disc is closer to the arm speed required to throw a 7-9 speed. That wil vastly improve your game, as you will learn to throw angles before relying on specific discs.
Different RU-vid man here. Using an extra flippy driver to compensate for a slower arm speed isn't unheard of. But you'll never achieve the disc's full flight. An understable disc like the diamond wants to be crushed on some significant hyzer angle, giving it enough space to flip up, turn, and eventually fade back a bit. If you just throwing it slower, youre just removing thay initial turn from the flight and removing distance.
I swear Robbie always seems to come out with these videos right when I’m struggling with that part of my game. Love the videos! Been watching since I started playing a little over a year ago and they’ve helped so much.
Standing on a tee pad with my driver is the most angst ridden moment of my life. Literally makes me want to quit the sport. I play 4-6 rounds a week, almost always shoot under par, yet I can go a whole weekend without one shot feeling comfortable out of my hand. Wide rim discs? Forget it. I wish I was like most disc golfers out there who are perfectly happy to chuck it from hole to hole. This game literally saps my will to live.
I have been trying to slow down my approach for a while now. When I go for distance I think I slow down but really don't. I have to try and feel almost like it's slow motion. It feels so strange but I'll keep going and see what happens.
Yesterday I decided to drive with my midranges the whole course to see what would happen (lat64 claymore, innova roc3). I was SHOCKED that I almost got the same distance as a lot of my drivers with much better accuracy and logical flight paths. really made me realize I need to work on my form and now I'm excited to try this video side by side excercise with a putter and driver.
As I have been working on my form I have been using putters and mids more when playing. I rarely throw my drivers further which I attributed to just not using them as much. This video makes total sense because I definitely feel like I need to throw them hard which is probably my problem with them lol. Thanks, great tip that I needed to hear
Love it, im a 900 rated chump but I bomb, can really hit one harder than most guys in the 40-50 AM category. And over and over again on just beautiful accurate flip ups all day long, easily hitting 400, I love to grab the drivers and show the guys what's up. But I get so nerved out when I grab my putter and miss left like a total dork, darn. It's amazing how we cant control the voices in our heads, if we could, life would be too easy!
Just like Dr. Watkins says "Just Breathe Rhythmically at a Fixed Rate" Breathe Rhythmically Evenly and Through the Heart Every-day "Being Brilliant Every Single Day Parts 1 & 2" TEDx Dr. Alan Watkins
At 58 and only been disc golfing for 9 months, I don't understand why I can get over 300 with my 11,5,-3,1 driver (I don't know what type it is due to it being a tourney branded disc...2020 Oklahoma, maybe someone might know what type) and hardly get 290 with anything slower like with my 10 speed Flow, or 9 speed Hatchet or Roadrunner.
What is a person's arm speed potential? There's a difference between 62 and 63 MPH in what disc you can flip up to flat. Most of us mortals can never get an 11, 12, or higher speed disc to flip up to flat so they are constantly diving left into the ground. Find the appropriate disc speed for your 90% power arm speed that you can slight hyzer flip to slight turn and you find your bomber. Now, you can find a 14 speed with enough turn like a -2 (shryke) to get it to flip to flat but it's too difficult to control. It's a "spray and pray". The extra 40 feet you get in a 1 out of 10 throws isn't worth the OB and fairway misses on the other 9 throws. A disc with 5 glide, -1 turn and 2 fade that you can slight hyzer flip to a hint of turn in no wind is where you'll find your PRECISION BOMBER. Disc up to a -1,3 or a 0,2 for windy conditions, 0,3 for direct headwind. Train yourself to never throw more than 90% of your power, that extra 10% has the same odds as scratch-off tickets.
Wait, you mean I DON'T have to throw a driver harder to make it go farther? Now you tell me! Seriously though, I knew that....but knowing it and KNOWING it are two different things. It still seems to be common sense that throwing harder makes a disc fly farther....but, in reality, that isn't true. But tell that to my brain.
I have been playing for 3 weeks. I am having fun, but want to improve. I don't have anyone I am playing with or anyone who can give me pointers. I have been watching your videos and am finding them helpful. Do you have any advice for an absolute beginner? Any specific videos you can point me to so I develop good form and good habits?
Or you can be lazy like me instead of working on form I just throw light weight distance drivers they go far I believe its because its easier to get them up to speed because of the weight. Every time I change my form it takes months to get accuracy. I can throw 300-380 on a rope. but i want to get 500 feet. 450 is my max and its with a 157 gram blizzard boss.
I am a forehand dominant distance driver. And I'm trying to throw back hand better. I can throw a warship mid-range about 340 ft backhand. And the farthest I can throw distance drivers backhand is about 250 and forehand I can throw over 420 ft
FINALLY. just started getting into this and mannnnnnnn there are some terrible instructive videos out there. Guys on a tee box walking back and forth, not visibly showing what they mean, giving advice that requires the application of like 17 different steps to beginners. etc. Good stuff here though.
Shit gets pretty disheartening. I'll throw decent in a round getting 350+ with 8 & 9 speeds on my exact line. Then go to the field afterwards to work on it and barely hit 330 with anything in the bag spraying them everywhere. Just makes me want to throw the whole bag in the river! lol
To slow my roll, I've been telling myself that I don't have to throw to the hole... Just halfway, because the disc glides the other half. I've been throwing too hard all these years. Doh!
Consistency is key. A big thing is playing enough really helps things out. I get better and consistent feel good then take too much time off and back to inconsistent throws and observe powering tee shots.
Im the opposite. I feel like my driving is fine, but my putting is terrible. Ive tried and tried to figure out ehat im doing wrong on putting,but its an annoying process.
i learned a thing a long time ago with nose angle. If you throw a hyzer flip, it puts the nose down for you during its turn. I feel like that is true, but maybe it is a myth? I can tell for sure when i hyzer flip if the nose was up becaause it doesn't really flatten out.
I absolutely think I need to put everything I have into a driver... then I muscle the shit out of it and it goes like shit, straight down and left... then I leave that shit disc in the bushes for some other dude to find...
How are you doing today Robbie? A suggestion for those who don't have video editing experience: go one step further with the video instructions and actually show how you edit on a basic program.
There's a law of diminishing returns throwing drivers for beginners, novice, and lower-level recreational disc golfers, in terms of speed. It's best for us to stick to 6-7 speed drivers (many 8 and some 9 speed drivers have smaller rims but are very aerodynamic). The higher speed drivers are tempting, but often give us too little distance, and disproportionately less control.
Anything over 7 speed just hyzers out well short of the distance a 5 speed flies, thrown smooth and slow or not Of course we try to yeet it Our noodle arms/poor form cant get it up to speed We're stuck with Leopards for drivers
This is good. I'm going try it out by alternating between putters and drivers. I already believe that timing is affected by how fast I am trying to throw. In other words getting the timing right is easier at slow seed but as I ramp up my throwing speed, correct timing becomes more difficult to achieve. But, there is an overriding factor. The faster the disc is traveling when it leaves the hand and the faster it is spinning, the farther it is going to fly. There is a physical limitation to how far each person can throw a disc. Example. There's a pro that plays my course sometimes and a few times we play together. He suggested a form change which I tried out. I threw my disc as hard as I could and it flew fairly well. His comment was "see there, you didn't put very much effort in to it and it went a long way." The thing that videos have taught me is that I throw a lot slower than what I think I am throwing. I have measured my release velocity to be only about 45-50mph. And this, I believe, is what is causing my short drives. My question is how can I increase my release velocity to 55mph?? I know the male pros are throwing between 65-80mph but I would be happy with just 55mph.
Wow! I watched this video a few hours after a very disappointing round. I too am guilty of trying to "crush it" with drivers. Immediately after the video, I went to my back yard and threw 7, 8 and 9 speed drivers as I would my midrange, but with a runup. All three flew at least 30 feet farther than I have ever thrown anything before. Thank you for pinpointing this simple to overcome problem! You've given me new hope!
I started disc golf backwards, gravitating towards the feeling of drivers over putters/mids. Can confirm, was always trying to do more than necessary lol. Smooth is far, folks
When NONE of my disc goes over 300 feet, I find that I throw hard with most of my discs... but, throwing slower with my approach discs feels very comfortable and they come off very well. I will try your exercise because it makes so much sense!
As a guy that does struggle w/ drivers at times, I’ll say the TSA Construct has completely changed my driving game. I’m so confident in that disc now on RHFH & RHBH it has quickly become my go to disc off the tee box for many holes.
Im actually backwards on that lol. I feel great throwing distance drivers/fairway drivers and kind of struggle with my mids and especially with my putters lol. When i try to slow it down to go "smoother", my timing gets way off and I either throw it super short of where i wanted to or sail it 75-100 feet past. I get what you're saying though and it makes sense. Thanks Robbie 😁.
I dont think ill ever get asked how my day is going being named Ozzy 😢. I definitely notice trying to throw harder with Drivers. I think its cause i want to see those pro style s-lines but i still havent came to terms that im not that guy.
Hey Robbie, I became a Patreon like a month ago and can't seem to get accepted into the Facebook group or anything else. Have I missed anything? Thanks for the video!
Great content but I would love for you to make a video of having to throw over trees that are 200 plus feet away. I can't ever seem to throw over trees without having the nose up on a disc. What can I do to solve this? Please help.
Recently discovered the passion and found also it was much easier for me to throw that 350-370 consistently vs I could faster distance drivers that far once in awhile.
I struggle to get distance without a driver. Once upon a time I could throw a mid about 280-310ft but now that's a lot more like 250ft unless I use a form that really hurts my distance with drivers and throws me off the rest of the round. I'm definitely not willing to sacrifice my drivers for a touch more distance on mids. That being said my mids are way more likely to get turfed than my drivers. So I probably need to practice more mids. My putters are personally only for putting form stokes (most of the time).
Thanks for your helpful, no nonsense tips Robbie. Hope to play a disc golf round with you sometime. I’m 59 and been playing for 3 years. Your channel has been great.
Play beach volleyball as well, & I'm loving the combination of these two!!! It helps so much with the flexiablity for both, setting is all about the wrist flex so I feel I already improved on both with that!!! Gotten the hang of a few fairway drivers so far but not consistent yet.
i have definitely gone more and more to a slower disc for 'distance' shots just because it is so much easier to control and feels more comfortable in my hand. of course i just yeeted my go-to disc into a creek at doubles this week, so it's back to the drawing board for me. RIP Crave; you were a real one.
