Jade Bayo Ba well technically both are japanese and have just been accepted as english words because satsuma is a species of fruit (same with animal species) so there’s no english word for it and tsunami because... uhh... i don’t know why
@@sawoyeomso nope. Non native English speaker here. But thanks for kindly pointing out the typo. It's corrected now. By the way: What does "sarcastc" mean?
That divorce joke was hilarious XD "This is America...we speak English here" "...But we're in Japan" Don't question American logic Jun, you're gonna have a bad time
Rachel: Okay Jun Jun: Hai? Rachel: If you don't get all of these correct Jun: Hai? Rachel: I'm going to divorce you Jun: What Rachel: This is America. We speak English here. Jun: This is Japan...
I just realized, Jun can make both the “L” and the “R” sound perfectly. He only has trouble *hearing* the difference. That’s quite interesting. For me it’s usually the opposite - I can hear that I’m saying it wrong, but I can’t seem to say it right because I don’t know how to make the sound.
This is normal when you're trying to understanding a foreign languages that has a phonemic distinction that your language doesn't. You can learn where you're supposed to put your tongue for each sound, so you can make them accurately with some practice, but it's almost impossible to "hear" the difference, especially in fluent speech.
I think it's because, in japan the L sound and the R sound are written using the same letter. So he knows the sound, but in english he is not used to have these 2 sound have their own letter each
It's the same with colors! People in early cultures usually use green or black for blue, which can actually make it harder to recognize the difference between those colors! It's so cool!!!
I think Jun has one of the best english among native japanese I've ever know. Many of them has very thick accent that make it kinda hard to listen. So yeah, it's not an understatement Jun's english is very good
Yasss Jun said he didnt travel to any foreign countries (bf he met Rachel) and his life was all in Japan. And he speaks like a native speaker woww, even though most Japanese ppl ‘s English is too hard to hear. And many ppl dont even know English ( I traveled there 4 years ago and had some problems reaching the understanding between ppl) Jun’s English is even better than mine ( I’m Vietnamese and our English accent is not as harsh as Japanese’s )lol
Witte Artistry I was born in America but half of my family were born at El Salvador witch makes me half American and half Hispanic/Salvadoran so I do speak English and Spanish lol ^^” 🇺🇸🇸🇻 BUT!! I know MORE languages others than English and Spanish ((I know French, Japanese, Korean, Portugal, and more etc))
Yeah, yet most of the time (even though this is just because he is used to saying it and Rachel might slap him if he messes up...JUST KIDDING!) he has ZERO problem(s) with her name! LOL!
I am learning Korean, and I can attest for the confusion with the L/R mashup. Flip-the-script... try to say key words in another language and it will COMPLETELY make sense. 🤓
But I don't see the issue with that. Isn't it the same as English in most cases? You see two, but it's pronounced as one... like ge-kkei-kan... with perhaps a more exaggerated k? I dunno.
I always say "red robstah" because I'm stupid and it sounds like "rastafarian" which makes me think of "pastafarian" and I once used ti believe in the power of His noodly appendage. Plus, "rastafarian" is fun to say.
This is very funny. I live in Japan and I see this in writing all the time too. There is a chain of apartments in Osaka called the “Legal Apartments,” which I always thought was an odd choice for a name. I finally realized it’s supposed to be the “Regal Apartments.” 😉
For a real challenge, then, he should try singing Jingle Bells in Swedish ;) Ute faller snö, i spiltan blacken står, och äter lugnt sitt hö, när ljudet honom når, att selen lyftes ner, och framför släden snart, med oss han sedan sig beger iväg med väldig fart! Bjällerklang, bjällerklang hör dess dingle-dång, flingor som nu virvlar om i munter vintersång... now that'll be quite the challenge ;)
Well, it's a nice try ;) Swedish and German are related languages, but they're not close enough to be very mutually intelligible in spoken form with the exception of simple phrases. Myself, I studied German in school but I suppose I've gotten a bit rusty over the years even though. :)
LilRando also she didn't talk about racism at all. She said "that's racist" as white people say it. So she was making fun of herself and white people who do that 🙄
LilRando yes she physically stole ur land... ok. Well she shouldn't live in Japan because she bombed it as well. She is an American citizen with immigrant ancestors. Yes white people stole Native American land. However do u want her to take a heritage test to see if her ancestors stole the land. Mine didn't even arrive on American land until the 1940s
LilRando American can mean a variety of things. First meaning your definition. Second American citizen for which Rachel is because she was born and raised in the United States. Third: American as a language for which has been modified into English. Yes European and American English is different in ways. I'm sorry but if she was European than she could freely just go to Europe without a visa.
I don't know if you want a more linguistic explanation of why but here it goes so brace yourselves: Basically, the japanese R sound is called an alveolar tap, which is a sound that in English we don't have a letter for. HOWEVER, this sound DOES exist in English. If you have an american accent and you say, "what's the matter" that /tt/ in matter is pronounced like the japanese tap. (for example, when you say 'native' at 1:48, that T is atually an alveolar tap, which is the japanese R sound. SO why do Japanese people mix up English L and English R? In Japanese these three sounds are completely interchangeable, there is no L sound and there is no English R sound, so if someone was to say KokoRo (with an English R) or KokoLo (with an L) They'd still process it as 心 with an alveolar tap. It's not the 'correct' way to pronounce it but their brain still processes it as such. Changing the sounds doesn't affect the meaning at all so in the japanese speaker's mind they are all "One sound" and so when they learn english their japanese R tap gets mapped into all the L and R slots. In English, we do have a distinction between L and R (red/led) so to us it seems bizarre that people might see them as one sound. I don't know if I've explained myself properly but to illustrate i'm going to compare with an example from spanish into English. In Spanish, most speakers don't differentiate between J Y or ZSH. For example, Pollo 'chicken' can be pronounced as "Poyo" "Pojo" or "Pozsho" because in our minds it's just one sound and so, when speaking "yell" may be pronounced as /jell/ or /yell/. This all works backwards as well when listening, not only when speaking. Our brains just try to work with what they know from their mother tongue.
You could have mentioned that the English R is an approximant and the L a lateral approximent i.e. very similar so the R-L confusion is justified in English.
iagonizante Thanks for the linguistic info. Is the Japanese phoneme a lateral tap? That would also add to the confusion. Just out of curiosity, do they have multiple allophones or just one? Also, which linguistic environments affect their production? (Using your Spanish example, /d/ -> [ð]/V_V).
MarioFanGamer Not to mention English has multiple acceptable allophones for /r/ and two common /l/ allophones (velarized and non-velarized). Really, you have to feel for learners, like Jun ^^, who come from an L1 background without this distinction.
Interesting explanation! Just wanted to point out that in the Spanish example, it also depends in what region you are in. In Mexican Spanish, we always pronounce "pollo" as "pojo". If you're in Argentina, then it will be "pollo" as "pozsho".
Is that the reason why some words like puppetted, are easy to say accidentally as puppettedded, and as well as to confuse the ed at the end of words as a 't'?
@@gildedliberty6090 which is why we should speak German as the largest ethnic group is German, making up 33% or so of the population. Also our school system and military was adapted from German roots, Prussian mostly.
That's nothing, my ex-wife, standing in the front row at a B-52s concert, kept calling out 'Lock Robster' after they finished their set (and she's caucasian)! To be fair to her, she did have a few wines and to the B-52s credit they actually performed the song. Was a good night all round, and hearing her say that was really funny.
This was so adorable. I've noticed Indians interchange "v's" and "w's" . My husband says "wolleyball" "voman" "vonder " it's cute. He equally makes fun of the way I speak Hindi. 😹
I don't see much difference in V and W either, 'cause in finnish we only have V. And we have only rolled Rs, so when I try to pronounce the english R, it sometimes comes out too harsh, like a rolled R, and sometimes too soft, actually sounding a bit like L, or sometimes like W -_-
I've noticed that. You guys say coppee instead of coffee. You also switch out V's for B's. So vanilla becomes banilla. And yet the one letter is pronounced in two different ways, like m/b, p/b, and k/g, as well as l/r (both of which you seem to have but is just represented by the one character, which to make it even more confusing looks like a 2). And then there're the times when you're not speaking either vowels or consonants but are just making strange sounds. I can't reproduce those sounds at all. Hell, I don't think I'm even hearing them right.
Oh goodness, you know what's weird? Until you typed it out here, I couldn't place what was incorrect about what he said. My brain went 'that's not right' but couldn't tell me what about it was wrong.
Sony is a Japanese company, though of course they did give their 1996-present console series an English name with a Japanese pronunciation. Same goes for Ibanez, who are a Japanese guitar manufacturer with a not-so-Japanese-sounding name. Roland is Japanese but doesn't sound like it, but their competitor in the synthesizer market, Yamaha, actually have a Japanese-sounding name, albeit heavily anglicized by Americans. Also, L and R would be eru and aru most likely.
Yeah, that word is extremely difficult for me to say as an American English speaker. Also, it’s not a word most people would use. Dreary is an adjective usually reserved for a place or the weather; I can’t imagine anyone choosing to use it as an adverb. “She drearily crawled out of bed.” It just sounds a little off, right?
@@margraveofgadsden8997 as an American who has learned two other languages and pieces of another three, yes, you are correct. Drearily sounds wearily like a different language's word. Interesting etymology on it though. From wiktionary: _"From Middle English drery, from Old English drēoriġ (“sad”), from Proto-Germanic *dreuzagaz (“bloody”), from Proto-Indo-European *dʰrews- (“to break, break off, crumble”), equivalent to drear + -y. Cognate with Dutch treurig (“sad, gloomy”), Low German trurig (“sad”), German traurig (“sad, sorrowful, mournful”), Old Norse dreyrigr (“bloody”). Related to Old English drēor (“blood, falling blood”), Old English drysmian (“to become gloomy”)."_
Actually if u eat coated candy like Polly's for example... (no diss i love Polly's) Ur eating lice or their poop. I forget. Something from lice. But they breed them specially to use as a coating in candy. Lots of candy brands have it.
Am I the only one that finds the L/R pronunciation thing cute? Haha😂💕 I think it’s quite funny and charming when Japanese (or even Koreans) have this issue.
tunrida14 He may have deliberately used 'small bread' to keep the link between the words 'Brot' and 'bread' intact. The German suffix 'chen' changes the word it belongs into a smaller version of it.
At first, I saw Jun's video where he show cats at first person, and I thought that he is American or Englishman. After, I saw his face, and wonder how he learned English so well.
I'm a argentinian. Naturally, I speak in Spanish, my nature language, but I speak and write english too. In Japanese I know pretty lots of words, but I want a deeply and exhaustive learning about this language. I love it.
OMG, thanks for making this video! I had no idea how difficult it was for Japanese and other Asian native speakers to negotiate the differences between "l" and "r". But seeing an obviously intelligent and eloquent person like Jun struggle in what must be to him like Japanese hell, really opened my eyes. This video is such a great teaching tool!
I've watched the beginning of this like a dozen times and I've died each time. XD **WHITE PEOPLE** 2:45 is exactly what happens when I tell Japanese people how my last name is pronounced un-katakana-ized.
Thuy An Le - In Japanese the second alphabet is 'katakana'. These are the symbols and pronunciations used to say a word that isn't Japanese. My last name is Hudson, which they don't really have the letters for. So (in English letters) I would say 'ha-da-sa-n'. If it isn't katakana-sised, that means it won't sound English, and will be an actual translated version or traditional, in another alphabet. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you so much. I can’t begin to express how often I’ve caught myself trying to mouth the “r” “l” type sound and getting nowhere but trying to work out how to form it in my mouth. You finally helped me to understand this and I think I am finally on my way to getting it right. You’re the best! Thanks.
I teach little kids and it is definitely hard for them to pronounce the L sound. They will often repeat the English I randomly use to describe things , like once I wanted them to Clap so I said "Clap clap" while doing the action. So they repeated but since they used more of the Japanese R it sounded like "Crap Crap" and even though I tried to fix it for the rest of the day they were walking around telling each other to crap XD
Jun - Great job! I am just learning Japanese and WOW... the differences in L&R may be difficult for you and Ro, Ra, Ri Ru are definitely very very difficult for me.
Aaaah! As soon as Jun said drearily wrong he virused my brain and broke it. I was able to say it right first time but then I got a blue screen in my brain and couldn't say it right anymore.
English, the creole Germanic language that uses romantic words and Germanic grammar, with around 2000 spelling rules that make no sense that you just have to learn! 🤔 Did you know there is a boy with duel English/Japanese nationality who is dyslexic in the UK, but in the top 10% of his class in Japan. I think I was born on the wrong island!
