Getting old sucks. Tony Hawk doing a 900 at nearly 50 years old is insane. Most people that age couldn’t handle spinning 900 degrees in an office chair. Just being able to ride a board at 40 is an accomplishment
@@bobburbanks7718 🎯 this right here. I’m approaching 36. Learned Kickflip bs Nosegrinds like a week ago. 15 year old me could never do them. It’s all a mental thing. I also feel like you get a better understanding of how skateboarding works the older you get. I mean I stayed away from stairs as a kid for the simple fact I knew I wanted to skate forever 😆… progressed in other areas which allowed me to skate longer. All the homies that were Kickflip ping 10 stairs back in the day don’t really skate anymore.
I dont really agree with this. the only reason you cant skate at 40 is because you have taken poor care of yourself. A good example of taking care of yourself is "the second coming of brandon turner" or " josh kalis 20 years later" or "out there fred gall". If you feel old watch these.
LOL. I could see him doing his eye roll. To be fair, I don't think crob had the full context of who said what, or what the purpose of the video was. It sounded like he though it was just someone hating on Haslam's skating to take him down a peg. I will say that I was a bit more, I wouldn't say bothered because it doesn't matter much, but Kelly's statement of calling someone a nerd in a derogatory manner for analyzing someone's skating. Kelly is a skate nerd himself who can apparently name each 411 that a skater came out in and what song they had. Fucking rain man shit. And he's an SLS judge, who analyzes peoples skating. SMH. I think he was just leaning a little too heavy into backing Haslam as a fanboy. I will say though, I had never seen Rad Rat videos before that interview (odd how RU-vid never recommended this channel to me), but I'm here now and I love the topics and takes he has.
@@FabianBarajas if there's any silver linings to this whole thing is that, the new Rad Rat fans. I agree with you and I understand they are always on "please the guest" mode, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth.
Ask Radrat is him answering community asked questions and the title is always one of the questions. Someone literally asked him that question. Stop dreaming up drama where it doesn’t exist.
@@katmarie7102 yes but the title and thumbnail makes it look like he's shitting on older pros which is gonna annoy people whether he's actually doing that in the video
@@zachw2971 The title and format of the video is the same as all 200 of the other Ask Radrat videos. You’re just trying to make it into something else. Anyone who has aged knows how much harder it is to continue skating when you’re in your 30s and 40s.
If you watch Mark Gonzales' channel - what is on display honestly is that 'aging' process - but he presents how he adapts and how he maintains in his short videos. That's an excellent channel I suggest to young noobs who have a delusion they will stay on top of their peak progress.
dude yes mark's channel is gold. He still goes hard on the curbs tho lol. Like you may not catch him on a rail but he gets after some pretty risky curb tricks
Gonz is like wine. Still destroys curbs, jump rope skills on 10.. he did a switch trey on one of his custom shapes it had to be like a f 10 inch board. 🔥
Getting older makes anything harder. Someone like koston has done it all and shouldn’t have to put out amazing video parts every year. He’s lucky that he’s still skating and having fun while doing it. Nothing to prove.
I really have to disagree though. I know very old skaters that do tre flip reverts and various other combination tricks as if they are still 21 years old, instead of literally over 40. I think the biggest problem is not joints getting beaten up (you can compensate a lot through building strong muscles, I'm 37 and definitely noticed this already). I think the bigger problem is how people just have less time to skate and also choose to not keep up with all tricks they have learned. If you haven't kickflipped in a while, the first one is going to feel very rough or challenging. And when older you might have less tolerance for failure or struggling in general. Someone like Koston will also not feel the need to prove himself anymore I guess, which makes perfect sense. Does Rodney Mullen still skate as much as he used to? Probably yes. I'd imagine he still got most, if not all, of his tricks quite well. But even his time is limited.
@@PHeMoX word up! But man, I dunno about that last part! I think Rodney Mullen almost certainly doesn't skate as much as he used to, dude's 55! I bet he doesn't have all or even most of his tricks quite well at this point. But hey I'm assuming.
Do you just mean cause like due to Rodney Mullen's own specific style of skating that his body wouldn't have taken as bad of a beating as other skaters into older age?
@@PHeMoX There is a difference between skating flatground well at 40 and putting out part where throw yourself down stuff or try fucked up ledge tricks. At some point they just want to chill with the homies, have fun on the board and not film a trick for hours.
@@PHeMoX You're obviously still young. When you skate, it's risky and you can badly injure yourself. The older you get, the more difficult it is to not get injured. Tre flip revert on flat ground is easier than breathing compared to doing a kickflip down stairs if you're old. You obviously don't skate if you're impressed by a tre revert anyway. A 360 shuvit would be twice as hard.
im 40 and I quit skating when I was on my prime. I picked it up 10 years later and it wasn't the same. It took me a while to get some of my old tricks back and even then, some ive completely lost. I started my channel to motivate myself to skate more and it has worked. I'm happy with my skating considering my age but I know it could be better. I'm just more afraid now to try certain things. I'm also 30 lbs heavier than when I was on my prime xD
And with catastrophic leg injuries, among other things. He was far from my favorite skater back in the day, even though I loved his skating; I was into Templeton and stuff like that. But right now he is.
I grew up idolizing that guy. He was big when I was just starting back in the day. I even got his pro deck in shortys when he first turned pro (wish I still had it) To see him land that switch hard flip made happy af. He’s always been that dude.
@@fmpentertainmentmedley3338 well are you guys doing kneesovertoesguy exercises or are you still rehabbing knees like it's 1965 and x-ray is the dopest newtech?
Arto stopped skating because if he hits his head one more time he'll get severe brain damage or potentially die. he mentions it occasionally in interviews or other little pieces. sorry i dont have the specific refernces.
I got back into skating last year after a break of 15 years at the age of 38 and I am progressing at the fastest rate that I ever have and have landed loads of tricks for the first time ever during this time. That said, there are many interesting points to make about this. I'm sure many of you can relate to these: 1. I am way more mindful of getting injured these days. A bad injury for me would mean taking time off work and potential loss of earnings as well as not being able to support my family. A serious injury would be costly for me. 2. I don't skate as often (perhaps only twice a week in the evening after I have put my kid to bed and only when the UK weather and seasons allows it) so when I do skate I make the most of a session. At the skate park I go to, I see the younger people skate for 5 minutes then sit and chat for 10 minutes (which is fine) where as I will be constantly skating. 3. When I do skate I am more focused than I used to be and analyse how I need to improve to land a trick in a deeper way. I am also more experienced in setting myself targets and ambitions for my skating so get a sense of progress through each milestone I reach which is a good motivator. 4. Recovery time after a heavy session takes a lot longer than it used to. If I skate for a 3 hour session then I will really ache the next day and will need a couple of days before I am ready to skate again. 5. Bails and injuries are more challenging to bounce back from. When I hit the ground hard repeatedly and get hurt, it takes a long time for the aches to go away. 6. I am more conscious of the need for protective equipment. I mainly skate street so never used to wear pads and helmet but these days I always wear a helmet at a skate park to protect me from a) myself (ie bailing a trick and landing on my head) b) other skate park uses (ie another skatepark user smashing into me and causing me to hit my head) I'm at a stage in life where a bad injury will affect me too much. 7. More on protective equipment. Nowadays I use protective equipment such as wrist guards and ankle guards to nurse better minor injuries that I do get. I have a wrist sprain from skating so wear my wrist guard to keep from getting worse if I fall on the same wrist. This allows me to avoid injuries so I don't have to stop skating. I ended up putting quite a lot there. Well done if you go to the end of it.
its not really all the injuries.. Its just that until 20s .. most likely early 20s you are growing and building. After that you are just slowly dieing for the rest of your life.. Staying the same or getting worse. I dont mean that you cant hit the gym and put on muscles still. I just mean your life force in a way. When i was 12 i had 9 pins in my ankle and could not walk for a full year. I retaugnt myself to walk and became pro snowboarding. Now though.. Im doing everything healthy and active as possible every day and still pretty much falling apart in 40s in comparison to my youth. Its just the growth and decline periods of your life. Get yourseelf as fit as you can when you are young because you will be riding on the back of what you did in your youth the rest of your life.
"why do old skaters suck?" is a question only a young, oblivious kid would ask. Turning 48 in two weeks, skating since I was 13. Here's the answer: Entropy and time. All things new fall apart. If you want to be able to do slappies and carve a nice hill at my age, you stop anything that could remotely endanger permanent damage. If that kid still skates in 20 years, they'll look back at this question with the knowledge of the folly of youth.
My skating has changed quite a bit over the past ~20 years. I used to "hate" on freestyle and cruising because it wasn't "real" skating. At 36 with numerous injuries, cruising is my favorite thing to do. I remember ankle rolls were a couple day recovery. It would be like 3-6 months to recover now.
43 here haven't skated in over a decade. Started rolling around early mornings everything started coming back lost 60 pounds. Not the best skateboarding ive ever done but definitely the most fun.
Hey Rad Rat. I hope your knee gets better. About 12 years ago I had a cruciate ligament tear in a bowl. After the first recovery a friend of me, who is a physiotherapist, pointed out, that the best practice for further recovery and future strength is, to make Squats on wigglely ground. He also pointed out, that this movement equals pushing on a skateboard/ longboard ( in my case it was the knee that stands on the board while pushing). That made me start longboarding pretty extensively. It was so mind blowing, that another kind of skateboarding is the cure for what happened while skateboarding 👌. Today I pair this exercise with taking the bike nearly everywhere I go. Today my knee feels stronger than before my accident. Maybe you should get a cruiser for recovery. Greetings from Berlin Germany. Leon
Aging really takes a toll on you especially with injuries, I broke my ankle skating at like 25 and had to get a metal plate put in so I was off my board for at least a year, and I feel like I’ll never be the same. Im 31 now and I still feel like I have a limited range of motion in that ankle (it was my left ankle and I’m regular so it’s my sliding foot) and I just never had time to get back to where I was. If you’re not a pro and have a job it’s hard to manage everything. Even now my kick flips are wonky bc of that ankle but I can nollie flip so much easier bc all i have to do is pop with my bad ankle so I just focused on my strengths which are switch tricks, i struggle with tre flips bc its hard to flick the board quick with my bad ankle. I can nollie tre easier then a normal one and can’t heel flip to save my life but hey I can switch heel still
Age is an absolute fucking killer. I just turned 30, and even doing tricks I could do perfectly a year or 2 ago is a much bigger challenge. 360 flips in particular take a lot more effort, and I really have to scoop them hard as fuck to get them around. Then this February I did... something to my knee. Didn't bail, I wasn't jumping down stairs, it just gave out during a flatground session. Still suffering from that one, and haven't really skated too much stuff since. Getting old is a nightmare.
1:57 - That part in "Yeah Right" is epic. One of the pink boards used in that segment is hanging on the wall at EduSkate Boardshop in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, because the owner was a part of that video's scene.
43 here, just recked my right knee on a nollie nose grind on a rail at my local park. My back foot slipped off and I did a split and sat down on my knee. That’s why old people suck. If I was young nothing would have happened. Could have walked away. I’ll heal back up some day and ride again. Just hope it’s not to bad, I heard or felt 2 pops in the back of my knee.
Hei dude, just wanted to let you know that on the freestyle part you are wrong. They are tons of freestylers right now,! You said that you don’t think they are enough for the Olympics maybe a few from u.k., u.s. japan, but you forgot about Romania witch has the 4th most freestylers in the world right now, you forgot about Germany, Sweden, Brazil, Switzeland, Italy, Hungaria, India, France, Austria, Spain and the list goes on and on. Please take your time and see what happend recently in the freestyle world. Check out EuroFreestyle that just ended with a history record of participants. Tons of companies that produce freestyle dedicated boards now ( Moonshine, Waltz, Cirus, Never Enough ) Just wanted to tell you this and keep up the good work 🤜🤛 P.S. I know you since you had your old channel, veteran right here.
After messing up my body through alcohol abuse and a horrible diet I can see why over time. I changed up my diet and life style and it’s like the fountain of youth, I’m looking forward to skating more now 🤘
As an 'aging' skater, or any one for that matter - make sure you replenish your body with quality foods high in saturated animal fats and lots of components like collagen, elasten, proteins, and for males - utmost importance is colesteral - don't believe the mainstream hype that it's 'bad' - it's a must for testosterone production and balancing estrogen (a weakener for men - will destroy bone density if out of control) .. a farm fresh egg is a great example.. sorry... Carbs are only good for short supply energy and the brain.. not the structure of your body. Omnivore diet is primary to understand and utilize. Other diets are to be used short term only. That's just the start though.. can't get into your particular needs in a comment section.
I'm a 50+ year old freestyler and just started Raiding the Lost Trick Bag by putting videos together about re-learning tricks I could do 30 years ago. It turns out it's not that easy to turn back time. 😂
Only 100% skateboarders continue skate into adulthood. The question should be why are older skateboarders so rad. Answer. Because we love this useless wooden toy.
I'm 32. Blew my left knee out playing soccer years ago. Now I wear knee pads every time I skate. And no more jumping down anything. Old guys skate transition for a reason
With old pros too street skating is really really hard on the body. The body can only take so much abuse when your young. Past thirty I think most skaters go into a slow decline. Still even just pushing round your local area remains fun.
Big respect to the mindfulness and precision that older and recovering skaters have, they skate carefully because they'd love to keep doing it. Carlos lastra is a great example
Barring severe injuries most recognized old pros do not suck. Similar to other athletes they still able to perform but not at the level that they once commonly accomplished. In fact most old pros skate at a higher level than their non pro counter parts.
Maybe. But it would run into an even bigger problem of how to score the tricks though? I mean, the weakest part about any competition in skateboarding that isn't like a game of skate, is how to properly and objectively judge a performance.
As far as retirement plans go skating is like pro wrestling. You’re lucky if you’re still standing a few decades in, so props to anyone over 40 even riding a board. I’m 33 and I already feel it.
Oh what I would do to have my 18yr old leg pop back. I skate more transition now. Keep skating. 42 coming soon. I love it.....even if it feels like it hates me. I’m basically in an abusive relationship with skateboarding at this stage.
If old pros did extensive rehab they could progress without there bodies breaking down. But in saying that I can’t see jaws still continuing to throw himself off skyscrapers.
The thing is back then... even 20-25 years ago people didn't see skateboarders as athletes like some today, and they didn't take care of themselves like you see Nyjah or Leticia with sport doctors and all that fancy stuff, and most people didn't even stretch and warm up before a sesh.
The guy who asked the last question clearly hasn't seen the Intro to Artos sorry part. That's why he mostly skates transition now. Street skating was slowly killing him
Nah man Arto put out three more sick parts after his first Sorry part.. it is just an age thing trust me. When I was 18 I was kickflipping 12 stairs and back lipping 9 stair handrails and all that. I'm mid 30s now and transition and curb skating just makes sense because no matter how good you are at something you can't avoid your body aging. He's just older, it's not due to injury.
I had many injuries throught out my skate journey, Broken Bones, twisted ankles dislocations And more. Thé one injury that totaly made me stop skating was my knee. I was doing stairs And my knee blew out. It's. Been months Now. I can walk And run but I can skate for only 20 minutes And need to také a 2-week break.
Aggressive inline skating died, because the trick ceiling was reached. There really are a lot less tricks possible with inline skating. It also didn't help a lot of these 'extreme' sports went to pay to view TV and were met with a quick death. It used to be amazing when it still was on MTV type channels (I forgot which channel exactly). Skateboarding contests actually ran into the same issue. Skateboarding never died, but the TV golden age definitely did.
Only kooks say old pros suck. Anyone that's dropped into some vert or a real bowl knows the old pros deserve their place in skateboarding no matter what they're doing now.
Re the last topic, I'm 31, used to skate in my teens, after about 12 years I decided to start skating again. I can't skate how I used to, my knees to handle it very well. I used to skate street, I remember throwing myself down 8 sets and off kickers and all sorts and I can't imagine doing that now. I never used to skate bowls much but I find myself doing that more than street now cause I don't have to pop tricks
The answer is simple. As we age it gets harder on us. The slams catch up to us. Be happy they're still skateboarding. Eric Koston has nothing to prove.
48 yo here. Yeah, my knees are not going to allow me to do 10 stair handrails anymore. Getting old sucks. But at least I can still skate. Just not as well.
I’m 35… been skating since I was 15… never really quit… but the time allowed to skate became very minimal after I had my daughter in 2008. She’s older now and I’m getting a lot of the extra time back to skate. With that being said. I don’t completely agree with the OLD argument. At 35 I’m learning new stuff all the time. Skating all the time. I think it’s all mental which then will manifest in to something physical. Not to mention you gotta take care of yourself. That’s my opinion tho. I just hate seeing dude’s in there late 20’s early 30’s on some geriatric shit. 😆
For real, I'm 27 myself and I keep hearing people my age talking about getting old. Like bruh, change your habits, adjust your style and you'll always progress.
Agreed skaters think turning 30 is a death sentence. I succumbed to that feeling when i turned 30 but i’m growing out of it a bit cuz where there’s a will there’s a way.
the women's division at the olympics was worth watching for sure, the men were extremely boring. it was like watching SLS but even more boring than watching SLS.
I'm 34 and I used to have 540s on my bike. I used to have a lot of tricks. Injuries have ruined my body. I can barely do anything anymore. I ride once a year. I used to ride 40-60 hours a week. Don't join the military people.
I was probably the kid making fun of you for playing Pokemon, I'm now 41 and when I drive to the skatepark my mind tells me I'm going to nail some trick that I thought of when I was lying in bed the night before.. What happens next is, I step foot on my skateboard and my body feels like it's made out of the glass, and it takes me a minimum of 1/2 before my muscles start warming up into lukewarm molasses. When you're young your muscles and ligaments are like fresh rubber bands, when you get old they become dehydrated, deteriorate easily snapped rubber bands.
whoever send the question "why do old pros sucks?" it's probably 12 has being skating for 6 months and does not understand skateboarding at all, maybe if he sticks around he'll find out
Old pros suck? My favorite skater, Rodney Mullen is still killing it. Daewon Song is still killing it, and Tony Hawk doing a 900 at age 50 is a feat. These young whippersnappers need to show some respect.
I started skating again after 10 years break and got foot tendon inflammation after cruising around the park and doing simple stuff like ollie or shuvits. Had to go to a physiotherapy after xd it got better later though but never as good as in the past
"Why do old pros suck?" What a terrible question. Most "old pros" are still killing it. They're definitely not doing a lot of the tricks they were once able to do, but still ripping nonetheless. Have some respect.
Not only does the body get stiffer as you get older, and healing is longer, but usually you have more life responsibilities (job, family, etc) that takes the time and energy you would usually put in skating and recovery you had when you're younger. Priorities changes. Some sports are more forgiving than others. At least skateboarding as a lot of possibilities in term of adaptation. So, you can just skate differently to adapt to how your body and energy respond. and it's not just to pull big trick. skateboard is first to have fun. F#$% the Olympics!
I thought the best trick category was pretty underwhelming in the olympics. At least for the men's, all of them just kept hitting the same rail just because it was the biggest. I understand why they did, but I think it would be more fun to watch if originality was a bigger factor in the best tricks category. In that respect, the women's best tricks were more fun to watch.
Every judged competition in skating is basically shit..your points only count if its done on the biggest rail that’s slapped dead center in the park. Skating comps suck.
I think when u get older, the big thing is longer recovery time but u can still extend your prime into your 30's and beyond u just gotta rest more. Plus a 9-5 is gonna sap all ur energy which makes it way harder to have a sesh after work. Ahhh to have a trust fund would be nice...
The older you get, the more brittle your bones become, especially older skaters who have beaten the shit out og their bodies back in the day, they just cant send it as hard anymore, that simple.
I think he could just go through his videos and compile a book based around things he's discussed in them. I've been tempted to do that on my website since he discusses a bunch of interesting parts of skating and skating culture.
Is it normal to feel old at around 21? In my “youth” I could skate for an entire day and be ready to go again the next. Now I get winded and sweaty within an hour or so... I took a lot of injury related breaks this year, so maybe I’m just out of practice. Am I the only one? :(
Check your diet and stay hydrated and exercise outside of skating if you can. You're actually still developing slightly at 21. That stuff was probably all in check without you thinking about because that's how it is when you're a kid. Part of being an adult is being fully responsible for your own wellbeing. You're not old. Identify the problem and fix it.
@@BigFatCock0 true. I took shit care of my body and I’m only feeling it now. Cutting out the sugary processed shit has been a struggle but there’s progress. I figured it was health related but denial ya know? Thanks for the wake up call, ima go drink some water and hit the park
@@areufr I suggest leaning how to cook, if you don't already know. I also recommend counting calories, but that's less important if you are already at a healthy weight. More than sugar, though, look at the fats that you eat. It's a bit dense to go into here (my wife's PhD dissertation was on effects of diet on blood lipids), but basically you want good oils, in a moderate amount (olive oil is excellent, but stay away from things like palm and coconut oil, and most animal fats - though bacon fat is surprisingly decent as far as its base composition, as is butter), moderately high to high protein, then fill in the rest as carbs. So 1-2 grams of protein per day per kilo of body weight, about 20% of daily calories in fats (not just added fats, but fats in meat, and nuts, etc), then fill in the rest with carbs (veggies - primarily non-starchy veg, fruits, and whole grains). I use MyFitnessPal to track calories, since it's easy to do on my phone. My wife is nuts, and she writes and calculates everything by hand. 🤣
Dude you're pushing buttons, don't complain when you get reaction you ask for with these crazy titles. I however understand the premise of these titles, but these old pros are punk rock as fk and built the foundation alongside 80s dudes like myself that put up w serious ass kicking from cops, parents ect etc. The younger generation should understand where the shit started and who paved the way, where I grew up skateboarding wasn't respected, and you're place in the group was earned not given. I'm happy to see your generation and beyond have it easy and not suffer the sh@t we dealt with. "Not a grumpy 40+ punk rock dude" haha
THERE ARE things you obviously get, and many things you don't get at all. The name dropping you vomited out here, whether being your own words or delivered by proxy: the ultimate skateboarding faux pas, cringe to the absolute max. Didn't cross your mind to explore the topic of the longevity of vert pros, did it? Bucky Lasek is pro since what, 88?? Glifberg, look at him. But the names I can't get over, dude. There is really no wonder you always end up getting getting so much hate.
