Why Do People Hate Orisa?

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Over the years Orisa has often been considered Overwatch's most boring hero. But would you believe me if I said people loved her on release? And that's for both Overwatch 1 and 2. So, what happened? How did Orisa become Overwatch's most boring hero?
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@thatboredaroace День назад

AND THEY'VE BUFFED HER AGAIN!!!

@BPViking День назад

Yeah lol

@orc3266 День назад

HONOR, JUSTICE, BEER! Orisa: no fun is allowed

@adrioumario1369 День назад

The OW2 balancing team is just insane by now Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result

@notGeist 12 часов назад

HOOO BOY SHE GOT HALF OF A MASSIVE NERF REVERTED. BETTER WATCH OUT.

@omrizubary Час назад

@thatboredaroace your overreacting in my view, now she ain't moving like a snail no more

@Kira-qq3vh 3 дня назад

I kinda feel like the most annoying thing about her OW2 kit is simply the fact that everything about it feels like it’s an anti-abilities counter. People don’t like sombra for being able to cancel ultimates or abilities without any counter play like Suzu? So why is all her abilities just that, it just feels obnoxious. I’m not sure if she’s even good but playing against her just feels so boring.

@Chicken_nugget_fan 3 дня назад

Spam, spam, spam, kill someone by pushing them off the cliff, tank 4 ults, Immortal horse...... Nuclear bomb ._.

@pwpqwq7648 3 дня назад

I wouldn't say there is no counter play, I mean sure, it does turn off your abilities, but it's not like you are immediately dead. You can fight for your life, you can use health packs, you can play ring around the rosie with her if there is something around that breaks line of sight. People just hate it when they have to use their brain to counter something. I play supports mainly, and 8 out of 10 times I manage to survive a Sombra, or even kill her in an 1v1

@Kira-qq3vh 3 дня назад

@@pwpqwq7648 yeah I feel like she is counter-able it’s just overall most of her abilities are basically anti abilities and most of the time it doesn’t really work. So she might not be great but it’s still so boring trying to do anything just for her to pop three abilities that counter almost all things in the game

@bostinobaddog2040 День назад

I mean she's very counterable, people just want to stuck to their one tricks

@DCxSkateboarding День назад

Know my issue with Larissa is that she makes gameplay linear and she's just boring to play into and against always has been and always will

@RandoMan07 3 дня назад

No one likes fighting an undying wall. That's why I hate the horse.

@Turtlpwr 2 дня назад

And it’s exactly why I love playing her

@omrizubary 2 дня назад

@@RandoMan07 that's why you cut the horse's life supply aka her supports

@waldytosantana3840 2 дня назад

@omrizubary Kinda annoying that most tanks have another tank that can counter them, except for Orisa which u gotta target her supports, or play Orisa aswell.

@omrizubary День назад

@@waldytosantana3840 Or play Zarya

@Kirokill1 2 дня назад

Saddest part is how they turned her from a friendly traffic assistant to a barbarian. Be careful when crossing the street.

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Yes

@adrioumario1369 День назад

They increased her weight without changing the engine

@Labyethan 3 часа назад

The friendly traffic assistant shot a child

@RicePuddingLand 3 дня назад

As someone Who grinded out the season 4 pass within a week, I loathe Orisa with my entire existence

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Fair but wasn’t orisa pretty bad that season?

@RicePuddingLand 2 дня назад

@@BPVikingNot Really, Pretty sure i have seen more orisas then my entire life has seen up till then back then, People immediately switch if they die as tank, It's pretty horrible

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Fair enough, I don’t remember entirely tbf. Either way I get what you mean

@omrizubary 3 дня назад

I said it once and I'll say it again: its easier to complain about Orisa when you keep shooting her gold than ignoring her and kill her backline

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Very true

@fascistwhiterunguard7919 3 дня назад

This

@Invisibleboy999 3 дня назад

I literally try to do this as tank and the orisa peels for her team then i cant do shit

@alfredoperez9017 3 дня назад

@@Invisibleboy999 you as a tank need to consider what your team is doing ? If you team isnt set up to attack the backline with you are probably not goin to be able to do much . So technically you can attck the backline but you have to be willing to pull out as soon as it gets hot .

@ireallydontknow278 2 дня назад

What about javelin spin It will force you back so you can't exactly kill her backline if she keeps you away from them Also another one is what if the orisa also just falls back and protects their back line from you? What happens then

@benlink202forever 3 дня назад

My biggest problem with Orisa is that her entire 2nd kit is way more selfish than her original kit. Bongo is so good because it affects the ENTIRE team, same goes for shield. Spear is an amazing and fun ability, spin is fine as a defensive/offensive tool, and fortify is the cheapest ability I’ve ever seen for OW other than Suzu. But all of these abilities only affect Orisa unless you are shutting down an ult with spear. Even then, I would prefer if she was a more of a glass canon character in the tank roll.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Yeah they kind of changed her entire identity from a protective team hero to a selfish solo monster whose entire viability depends almost solely on her stats. I see what they were going for considering her late OW1 state but I don’t think this was the way

@jennalove6755 3 дня назад

bruh shes slow moving. How would a "glass cannon" tank even work? thats literally just a dps.

@dram3711 3 дня назад

Old Orisa was one of my favorite character. She was an enabler tank, using the environment and her body to give the team an advantage. OW2 is just a more selfish game in general.

@hez8208 2 часа назад

I believe her having a more selfish kit makes her more dependable in the OW2 way to play the game. There are plenty of other tanks that only have abilities that affect themselves instead of their team. And that's just bc of the tank role's job right now. Which is to stay alive and take space.

@AnakinSkywalker-gw2xv 2 дня назад

It’s so boring to fight a character whose whole identity is based around denying and living forever. I hate her so much Orisa meta was my hell

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Yeah her core design now is just weird

@underrrrstand 3 дня назад

I like playing her occasionally, i think shes very true to her lore in her gameplay

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I can find her fun once in a while, just not someone I play often

@ghost_ship_supreme 2 дня назад

Who cares about lore? The gameplay is what really matters…

@underrrrstand 2 дня назад

@@ghost_ship_supreme oh teacher, teacher! I do!!

@musa9371 3 дня назад

Orisa is my fav hero in OW. when she was reworked i was sad to lose her old kit but i was ok with that seeing how people were finally liking her. but few months after that she was back to getting bumped on, which means we lost old Orisa for nothing.

@ethidian3444 3 дня назад

New Orisa is many times better than old Orisa lmao

@Invisibleboy999 3 дня назад

Both orisas are shitty and boring

@kusolp544 3 дня назад

More fun to watch than soldier ngl

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Fair enough. Soldier is just running and then point and click adventure (no hate to soldier players)

@elkosins1686 3 дня назад

Orissa shield really made it feel like you were shaping the battlefield and changing the map to your benefit

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Yeah, even though the play style was more slow paced it still somehow felt more impactful

@jeffisjesus657 3 дня назад

She’s like shooting a damn wall and you can’t fight a wall

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Yeah, that’s why the way to beat her is to usually just ignore her. But that isn’t particularly fun either

@ireallydontknow278 2 дня назад

@@BPVikingnor is it exactly effective as the orisa could just help their backline kill you instead

@ireallydontknow278 2 дня назад

That's so true I feel like she can take so much punishment and still survive due to just how much armor she has Even fortify makes her basically an immovable object

@orc3266 3 дня назад

Basically its overloaded design that reworked for ow2 is meant to bully an entire tank rooster, which means punishment for trying to have fun

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Yeah new orisa is kind of designed just to keep other tanks in check but then that becomes miserable for the other tanks who she keeps ‘in check’

@thecrabbycrab5661 3 дня назад

I feel sinful for missing hogs one shot

@BPViking 3 дня назад

And maybe you should But maybe you shouldn’t. You do you

@inevitableanarchy4203 3 дня назад

As a casual player, Orisa was my first tank "main" in OW1. The second hero I ever got a golden gun for. Loved playing her. Was excited for the rework in OW2, and DID have fun playing the new her in seasons 1-2. However overtime, she just felt more and more bored to play, despite the micro buffs. Fast forward to today in season 12 and I NEVER play her, only ever switching to her if the enemy has a really good Doom or Rein. Again, I play the game casually, and until this video I could never really explain (in words) why she felt so unfun and boring compared to OW1. Thank you so much for this detailed coverage. W channel for sure!!

@BPViking 2 дня назад

I’m glad you liked it

@khele2k 2 дня назад

She can be fun to play because she's the rare Tank where you can make plays while face tanking and not get completely run over when everyone else on the other team is shooting at you at once. She's a good defense Tank, especially on maps with minimal vertical play.

@lenoncio998 4 дня назад

Clicked on the video thinking that it had over 10k views because of the great editing, script and overall tone, but im surprised to see that you're still a "small" channel!! Awesome content, keep it up bro

@BPViking 4 дня назад

Super happy you liked it that much and yes I will try to keep it up. These vids do take some time to make but next one should be ready in 2 weeks and I hope I can make that one good enough as well 🙂

@derrinerrow4369 23 часа назад

Orisa was changed from an immovable object to an unstoppable force. I personally loved he original kit, being a sort of "commander" for the rest of the team to rally around and hold the line with. able to fight at a decent range compared to other tanks, while assisting with well placed barriers, the mini grav to temporarily kill enemy momentum, and the fortify and supercharger really let you pull a a pretty powerful last stand to try and hold off the enemy and buy your team enough time to make a comeback. Now Orisa is a tank who simply bulldozes enemies with a busted CC ability that can easily ruin someone's day and 2 defensive abilities that benefit her alone, makes her near impossible to kill when backed by a support making it braindead easy to just charge into the fight and steamroll an enemy or 2. Old Orisa's kit provided utility for the entire team to take advantage of, OW2 Orisa is extremely selfish kit that becomes ridiculously strong when other teammates dump any resources they have into her.

@BPViking 22 часа назад

Yeah this is true

@Ccscenario 3 дня назад

orisa has been alright for the past weeks, but DVA on the otherhand

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I haven’t been playing much Overwatch recently except for recording footage tbh but yeah I’ve heard dva is pretty strong rn

@dustindean4618 3 дня назад

Here I am absolutely love playing her, she was my main in OW1 and the rework in OW2 she was even more fun to play, to me shes one of the most fun characters to play in the game lol

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I’m glad you enjoy her. Obviously not EVERYONE hates Orisa, just most people do, but of course some will still love any hero. For example, I hate playing as Symmetra, but some people really enjoy it. At the end of the day it’s all subjective, and in reality this video’s main point was just a facade to tell the history of the hero

@Who-yx5pd 3 дня назад

Everyone hates Orisa because she is unkillable, but after the tank buffs, everyone became unkillable

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Yeah kinda

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I’m really glad everyone seems to be enjoying the video as I put a lot of time into this one, so I really appreciate the support. I’ll try to answer as many comments as possible but it might take a while. Also I’m already working on the next video (it’s about a support this time) but my pc is having some slight issues so we’ll see how things go. Hopefully aiming to get it out in 2 weeks tho

@DasGoodSoup 3 дня назад

#revertorisa

@lucashodges5134 2 дня назад

I think it boils down to one simple thing: interaction. The most satisfying thing about overwatch (and hero shooters in general) is the various interactions between different abilities and characters. For example, if roadhog hooks one of your supports, and you are playing Dva, you can place your defense matrix over them to stop them getting bursted. This is a good interaction, as it relies on the skill and awareness of the Dva to do this. The think that makes OW2 Orissa fundamentally flawed, is how her kit actively discourages interaction. Her Javelin spin blocks projectiles, and her fortify blocks all forms of cc, while slapping on a large amount of armor and damage reduction. Both of these abilities discourage the player from interacting with her, often meaning the player must wait until these abilities are on cooldown to shoot her. Her javelin throw and ult are no better: sure, you can black the javelin with a barrier, but who thinks thats fun or interactive? Orisa is a literal walking middle finger to fun, not interesting interactions between her and her teammates, or her and the enemy team. She's simply a bundle of stats and nothing more.

@BPViking День назад

Yeah this is pretty accurate

@michaelc7418 3 дня назад

OW1 Orisa is fun to play when her cooldowns are weaker but shorter in cooldown so she can do things more often. OW2 Orisa is simply a badly designed Tank, because now both of her sustain cooldowns are solely for self-sustain; every Tank should have some kind of team sustain ability. Secondly, OW2 Orisa has too much overall CC now to where it feels obnoxious to play against. Too much power is forced into Orisa's solo play making potential and she has lost the team play elements that OW1 Orisa had that made her more fun to play against individually.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Agreed

@erroneousfax9351 3 дня назад

Almost entirely unrelated and almost certainly a balancing nightmare but I wish they would bring back bongo in some form, maybe as an alt casting option for her the same way Sym had multiple ults

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Would be interesting

@d3cayingc0rpse 3 дня назад

I am one of the few people who actually loved playing OW1 Orisa. I had a little over 60 hours on her in all of OW1. Ever since they changed her entire kit for 5v5, I've stopped playing Orisa and only rarely choose Orisa.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Personally I never heavily played orisa in ow1, but as a main tank player she did still definitely have her place for me. Nowadays I do tbf play tank less but also play orisa less

@RvnWolf 2 дня назад

They really should have left her kit alone from overwatch, and this is as an Orisa Main, loved her 1 and still love playing her. The only time she isn't my first pick, is on defense maps .

@rythmwarrior3443 2 дня назад

I have approximately 300 hours played on Overwatch 2, and almost 200 hours were spent playing Orisa lol

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Hey you do you, if you like her that’s fine

@Noobish_Camper55 3 дня назад

Old orisa was less annoying and more unique. Now she is just a spam wall.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I too preferred old Orisa

@censure8751 3 дня назад

Watching this as an orisa player, I see this as an absolute win

@BPViking 3 дня назад

@SteamGrace 18 часов назад

Orisa is literally "CC for thee but none for me!"

@BPViking 12 часов назад

Pretty much

@themusketeers-vk8wh 5 дней назад

wasnt even gonna click but I hate the horse so I had to like it quick lol :3

@BPViking 5 дней назад

lol fair play I appreciate it

@kouadio4231 3 дня назад

Stop hating and learn to play against... ;) I mean... every single hero is "hated" in OW, for a reason or another. Orisa has a really strong kit, but almost all heroes have strong kit, regarding the situation

@kouadio4231 3 дня назад

Even if I agree, to me, Orisa is the most oppressiv tank I can face ; but actually, a good Reinhardt too, a good Winston also, a good Doomfist, well... it is the definition of opression... 😆

@BPViking 3 дня назад

You’re not wrong tbh. But I rather think it’s someone’s experience against a player who isn’t dominant than one who is which makes them hate certain heroes more than others. Of course not because getting stomped is more fun, but because that isn’t the regular experience. Anyone can dominate on any hero, and you can lose to any hero, and you can feel bad losing to them in that moment. But if you also hate playing against someone who is doing equally as well as you or worse, just because of the hero, then that’s the problem. It’s a similar situation with Sombra. Many people are able to acknowledge that she’s weak when she is, but they still don’t enjoy playing against her, despite having a good chance of victory

@hadouradiance3566 3 дня назад

@@kouadio4231 You can hate and know how to play against. I rarely lose to Orisa. It doesn't mean I like fighting or seeing that dumb horse.

@TangleHamain 3 дня назад

As an Orisa player, I miss her Bongo, omg! I started playing OW1 with Orisa out of all characters and her Bongo made me win so many damn games! And now? Her new Ult is so bad! You HAVE to combo it with another Ult to properly do lots of damage, its ridiculous.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Yeah her new ult is rough, bongo was much better

@connor.chan.jazzman 3 дня назад

Yeah it's funny how much her new ult has synergy with so many other tank ults, but alas, there are no longer two tanks

@OppyOzzborz-sb8oz 3 дня назад

2:38 yes I was there when sombra came out and they was hyped for orisa… well I still like them both, tho I would prefer their initial kit

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Fair enough

@gregoriocosentino4066 2 дня назад

I love playing Orisa but I understand she is frustrating to play against, although she is fun to play

@BPViking День назад

Fair enough

@riafire7477 2 дня назад

I like Orisa because at least she doesn't jump on me with 700+ health and insta kill me

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Tbf she is slightly less annoying for non tank players

@artimist0315 3 дня назад

For me the problem with her current design is that all of her abilities are incredibly redundant, and kinda boring. Javelin Spin and Fortify do more or less the same thing and you just end up using whichever one is currently not on cool-down. I honestly can't think of a single other hero where this is the case. Not only that but she could do entirely without fortify and get by fine, making the ability even more unnecessary. This just means that whenever Orisa should logically die as all of her ressources should have realistically been forced, she can still fortify and survive. Honestly I've no idea why they kept fortify from Overwatch 1, out of the 3 abilities the used to have it was easily the most boring one. Just imagine how fun and impactful Orisa would be now if the kept Halt! instead of fortify. That and she would just feel so much more bearable. But no instead we have the ability where Orisa changes colour and becomes invincible because this is fun.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Yeah fortify is a really stupid ability in OW2. On OG orisa it made sense as it was her only self sustain, but yeah don’t know how this was the ability they kept

@tyj.4860 2 дня назад

I completely agree!! I've thought for ages that Orisa wouldn't be seen as an unkillable cooldown cycler and would be enjoyed much more by casuals if she kept Halt! instead of Fortify.

@sethtfp2373 19 часов назад

“Overwatch’s most boring hero” when Mauga is RIGHT THERE

@emma6648 18 часов назад

He’s actually kind of fun doe, fun ultimate fun shift ability

@BPViking 12 часов назад

She’s considered the most boring hero throughout history, not necessarily only right now

@sethtfp2373 10 часов назад

@@emma6648 most boring hero for absolutely everyone else to play against, Orisa herself is fun to play (imo). He’s complete bull crap and has Freelo matchups with almost every tank in the game. If he can shoot you, he can kill you.

@skrrrtsusman3450 День назад

same reason people hate facing muaga sombra and pharah, the counter play needed is often times not fun and fully requires character swaps

@meta-memes9060 3 дня назад

“One-shot combo” is oxymoron

@JP-yf2fk 3 дня назад

It's a perfectly valid term if the combo is unavoidable once the first hit lands

@BPViking 3 дня назад

@meta-memes9060 yeah you’re technically not wrong but that’s the term the Overwatch community has always used for things like sigma’s or hog’s old combos, due to them being almost guaranteed once you land the first hit

@paddy1144 3 дня назад

No it’s not though

@garrisoncox724 2 дня назад

I like playing Orisa because her kit feels very tuned for the tank role and purpose of making/denying space and controlling the tempo of a fight.

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Fair enough

@technounionrepresentative4274 День назад

She really does feel like the most "tanky" of the tanks, She's this big unmovable hunk of metal

@spoon115_ 3 дня назад

For me it’s because her cooldown cycle is just crazy and doesn’t take much skill to pull off. There’s almost no downtime between spear, spin, and fortify. Low floor low ceiling character

@Intenxsify 2 часа назад

I like shredding Orisas as Bastion but you obviously need to time your turret mode. As expected from Bastion a tank buster

@freezy8092 4 дня назад

i lowkey main as orisa😭

@BPViking 4 дня назад

How dare you 😡 For real tho you do you man glad you enjoy her

@calus_bath_water 3 дня назад

You lowkey need to learn how to play a hero that requires any form of skill

@omrizubary 3 дня назад

@calus_bath_water He is terribly sorry that he plays a character that he enjoys and you don't

@calus_bath_water 2 дня назад

@@omrizubary there is absolutely zero chance anybody finds orisa fun, actual snooze fest of a hero

@omrizubary День назад

@calus_bath_water He is a living proof, you're looking right at him

@zkillyatt1738 2 дня назад

A comment on the hog oneshot, while his hook was definitely overpowered the rest of his kit paled in comparison, not to mention breather had a massive cooldown + him being a tank with no movement or damage blocking capability, so while people hated hog he was also balanced enough for counter play, as you could just focus him down and he usually didn’t have any options but to hope his supports could keep him alive. Meanwhile Orisa is literally a giant “nuh uh” as she had basically 3 abilities that could reduce/block damage, and then javelin to deny half the overwatch 2 roster ult or ability value, I mean Cass literally relies on headshot damage, fanning was a strategy but with Orisa’s super tankiness even if he landed two fans he would only have maybe reduced her to half health(even less if even one ability of hers is used!) not to mention javelin spin just eats everything, not even Zarya could get through that!

@BPViking День назад

Good point

@Zonda4748 3 дня назад

This shit with only one ability disables whole Junker Queen and that's a problem, you literally can't heal from this cow

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Orisa is a pretty hard counter to multiple tanks, junker queen included

@gerobso29 4 дня назад

this video is very well made and needs more views

@BPViking 4 дня назад

Glad you enjoyed

@brimp4989 2 дня назад

I feel like people hate on orisa a little less this season because of the multiple small buffs to dva that flew under the radar up until recently to where she’s seen everywhere. Oh yeah and doom where it’s either you get to play the game shooting at a wall with or you get a doom in your face cc’ing you while he still doesn’t die.

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Yeah orisa hate has lessened as she is less oppressive right now. Although if she gets another buff or two there could be problems

@mhmtakeyatime9000 17 часов назад

Id drop one of her current abilities for her old "halt" ability.

@BPViking 12 часов назад

Yeah, although that wouldn’t necessarily fix things. If you replaced javelin many of her problems would still exist, but if you got rid of one of the other two she could end up dying too easily instead. It’s a difficult issue

@jsnmota220 3 дня назад

Brig video next. Good work on this in

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Thanks and yeah you guessed it brig video is next

@stanleyurey1013 4 дня назад

Underrated Channel

@BPViking 4 дня назад

I’m happy you think so. I’ve still got a long way to go in this whole RU-vid thing and a lot to learn but I’m trying my best to make these videos as good as I can

@scumknight6074 3 дня назад

There is no reason she should have a cc and dmg reduction plus armor. I don’t understand why they would rework her just to make her exactly the same raid boss. Just replace fortify with her old Shield, that way she at least gets countered a little bit whilst holding her ground against Zar.

@BPViking 2 дня назад

It’s still kind of confusing how they decided to keep fortify of all abilities from ow1. Hero identity aside, I think orisa could be in a much better spot if they just changed fortify into an entirely different ability

@itsali654 3 дня назад

People who say orisa is unfun are the same people who think widow is fun to vs and interactive

@calus_bath_water 3 дня назад

That's just not true, both are boring broken ez win heroes

@itsali654 3 дня назад

@@calus_bath_water one doesn’t one shot you and is a tank and one does orisa is only not “fun” cause she counters rein and a little ram and sometimes queen

@omrizubary 3 дня назад

Skill issue @@calus_bath_water

@BPViking 3 дня назад

@itsali654 I see what you mean but at the same time I don’t think this is true

@omrizubary 3 дня назад

@@BPViking May I say a few words by taking 5 minutes from your time? The talk of widow and Orisa are "ez broken heroes" is old news, As of today the majority knows how to play against them: Vs Widow is don't peak and she is dead by letting your monkey or your dive dps kill her, For Orisa it's literally make her waste gold and she is dead. I am a diamond 5 tank and I saw no Orisa besides 1 time on Penensuela. Point is that at current moment players knows how to play against them

@Frogga_UFO День назад

Bro I love Orisa. I wouldn't have 1100 hours on her if she wasn't fun. You guys literally say shes unkillable BUT then you dont use that opportunity to play with an extremely oppresive style, make crazy cheeky unexpected plays, solo flank to solo secure squishies- her incredible sustainablity and no damage fall off allows to do all those things. Instead you choose to play AFK style and then complain that the hero is boring. Such a skill issue take.

@namelessliberty9869 5 часов назад

This is my opinion when people say support characters suck because half of what makes them good is being a threat but people think they just sit there and heal and then say "lifeweaver weak" "juno weak", that's because they're not being threatening and playing everyone like mercy.

@ascianenjoyer6756 3 дня назад

I think Zarya and Doom are infinitely worse to play against than Orisa, doom has way more cc and an ability that punishes you for your teammates mistakes, zarya has the same second issue and takes even less skill than Orisa imo (basically zero aim required and a harder counter swap given her existence is the counter). I don't deny Orisa is boring to play against but the counters to her are easier to pull off for mid-low ranks than Zarya (and Doom to some extent)

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Yeah those heroes can also be pretty problematic at times. Obviously different people find different matchups more difficult, and I think the hate towards Orisa is affected by various factors, but some people will definitely agree with you here and you have a valid take.

@connor.chan.jazzman 3 дня назад

At least Doom dies almost immediately if you either counterplay him or make a mistake. His whole kit is CC which might "feel" incredibly powerful, but even with perfectly cycling CDs and following up with ult and empowered, he still can't outright finish off Orisa or Mauga. Besides squishies, he can barely get any meaningful damage in, and if he misses one ability or gets hit by a counter ability, it sometimes immediately spells the end for him.

@ascianenjoyer6756 3 дня назад

But it's not about immediately killing is it, that's the Orisa struggle. You're just held hostage. Doom I can't catch the bugger and he just flies in, my teammates give him empowered punch, he either kills squishies or just sends me flying, goes back out and in again and it's just miserable, can't block it either

@gamer1X12 2 дня назад

Orisa is very low risk, EXTREMELY high reward 😂

@weirdweeb6141 2 дня назад

For me i hate that she cannot be punished like most tanks will admit at times its on me but there are times where she can just push past me and kill my team while me and my team desperately try to kill her and it just sucks and while i could kill off her team there's also the big risk my team will die by her and I won't be there to stop her

@ymd24795 2 дня назад

she just does not fking die

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Pretty much

@bdo333 День назад

Immortal Horse

@Ilovenoodlesrip День назад

I mained Orisa in overwatch one, hated the rework, and never played the game again.

@BPViking День назад

Sad times

@wusaint 3 дня назад

IMO I think Orisa is what they want a tank to be. Unfortunately no other tank really fits that narrative except maybe Rein.

@scumknight6074 3 дня назад

Agree with everything except Rein

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Orisa has kind of become the new Overwatch 2 solo tank. I also don’t know about Rein fitting the narrative tho

@zaxitron2714 День назад

I’m an orisa main and this is valid

@draculemihawk6120 3 дня назад

I'd say her current problems are that her entire kit anti-CC, CC, and both. Which is no fun for anyone. That and her lack of damage fall-off means she can just target anyone without problem

@BPViking 3 дня назад

The damage fall off thing is really weird because originally in Overwatch 2 they put it in so she had a more defined role, but then they just said nah and removed it.

@v1rgindezzy662 10 часов назад

Literally the only person who likes orisa 😢

@BPViking 9 часов назад

Nah if you check the comments there are a few Orisa enjoyers

@ghost_ship_supreme 2 дня назад

I remember playing this game back when everyone was OP. Even a loss was fun! Now it’s just yet another sweatfest. I’d rather play the original game.

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Sometimes I feel like that with a lot of games tbh

@AidenHoultAllen 2 дня назад

Rather fight a orisa then mauga

@BPViking День назад

That’s valid

@AidenHoultAllen День назад

@@BPVikingeven though he’s a new character he needs a full rework, like orisa and bastion lol

@BPViking День назад

Mauga’s hero design from a gameplay standpoint is just so bad lol

@potatobob3455 2 дня назад

As a doom main I bag any orisa/sombra I manage to diff (ik its toxic but they should just use a skilled hero)

@riptose9252 3 дня назад

I know this isn't really related to the video but the more OW1 clips I see, the more I realize it looked better than OW2 😢

@BPViking 3 дня назад

At the time I remember people being so confused why they changed the ui. I don’t mind the new one but the old one was honestly just as good

@weirdeurasianboy8091 День назад

3:44 huh? Wrong game dude

@BPViking День назад

Should have explained it like I did in my sombra vid but apex was one of the first forms of competitive Overwatch before the Overwatch league was a thing

@AnotherSkeletor 3 дня назад

i dunno what yall talking about, orisa is the only tank i play besides hog, i like her

@BPViking 3 дня назад

To each their own. A lot of people hate Orisa, but that doesn’t mean everyone does, that’s simply the nature of the thing.

@AnotherSkeletor 3 дня назад

Yeah yeah, i also see her a lot when i play on EU servers, i guess that makes a difference :D

@skrrrtsusman3450 День назад

the only part of her kit that is an issue is her gold, like some others have said, there really is no counter play like other forms like bastion ram or even mauga. She just gets all benefits at the press of a button and nobody can punish her or counter it.

@BPViking День назад

Yeah if I could only change one thing it would easily be fortify

@skrrrtsusman3450 23 часа назад

@@BPViking id say do what everyone has wanted for ana nade but for fortify, make the cc immunity a cc reduction instead, they already shown they can tweak those numbers with the tank passive.

@BPViking 22 часа назад

Yeah could perhaps help, although realistically the solution is probably to make a new ability entirely in the long term. The problem then though is, depending on the ability, does orisa now just explode instead?

@skrrrtsusman3450 22 часа назад

@@BPViking probably given her long butt, too much too easy to hit. I feel like removing fortify entirely would remove the last bit of orisas originality though, unless they swapped it for halt! . Then though that would make landing spear too easy, and since she needs more defenses they might need to tweak spin or give it resource, but then its just budget dva matrix making it feel lame unless they boost her speed buff while using it too, she turns into land doomfist.

@skrrrtsusman3450 22 часа назад

@@BPViking The best possible fix would be to give Winston punch a resource, and when he punches he grabs people, and during ultimate he can grab two people and beat the others with their own teamates, and the ones grabbed have a Dead By Daylight wiggle bar they can do to use up more resource. That would fix Orisa for sure.

@musa9371 3 дня назад

im still holding hope maybe someday we'll get skill trees and we can pick and choose from ow1 ans ow2 abilities for Orisa, Bastion, Symm, Torb..

@BPViking 3 дня назад

That would be really cool. Of course it would never happen but one can hope

@Jay-mx6bg 3 дня назад

Sometimes I think could her old kit work now since there aren’t two tanks and the double shield meta is gone

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Maybe, it’s difficult to say but realistically the only problem with her balance wise was when you combined her shield with another one, so it might work

@America938 2 дня назад

Remember when ow2 orisa was considered stupid fun what happend

@BPViking 2 дня назад

I do remember 😢

@vlobdam 2 дня назад

7:49 this is kinda misleading, the comp was not strong just because there are 2 shields on the field. otherwise good vid

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Perhaps you’re right. It wasn’t purely the shields that made it strong, but I feel that was the defining factor in why it became oppressive. I didn’t want to go too in depth so that’s just about all I mentioned, but I see where you’re coming from

@ghostytigger6383 3 дня назад

She should be banned for below gold in competitive.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I see what you mean, but of course this would never be the answer to the problem

@musa9371 3 дня назад

why dont they try more drastic changes insead of micro buffs and nerfs. like imagine if fortify: gave no overhealth and can be headshot but gives 40% movement speed. make her a real speedy horse with 2 speeding abilities. i could think of 100 things they could try.

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Yeah blizzard have never been particularly radical with their balancing for Overwatch (at least from what I can remember). Sometimes they make random changes that make no sense, but whether or not they have a purpose, they tend to play it on the safe side. Now I’m not gonna try to argue whether this is the right or wrong approach but it’s the one they’ve taken and it can be frustrating at times

@markmagician2471 День назад

What I love Orisa!!

@MistarZtv 3 дня назад

How do I play orisa after the recent tank update and orisa nerfs?

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Idk I’m honestly not the right person to ask

@Krownss 2 дня назад

I actually Like playing her :( mabye its because im a new over watch Player and im Not conditioned To hate her?

@BPViking 2 дня назад

I will admit she is more fun to play than to play against. When ow2 first launched a lot of people also liked her, but over time people have started to like this new kit less

@Kaiji... 3 дня назад

I don’t. If anything I hate Rein/Mauga, if I see them I hard tunnel vision them as Bastion until they rage swap. Also, I find it funny that release Orisa is probably the best balanced Orisa.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Hey we all have who we hate. I love rein but not mauga personally. Also yeah it’s kinda crazy how OG orisa (after maybe her second buff) was probably the most balanced she ever has been

@Kaiji... 3 дня назад

@@BPViking I used to like Rein, but now the players are all “REIN DUEL. FOR FLATS!! HONOUR.” like every time. Then, the good ones can juggle shield and the only way to stop them is to melt with Bastion by making them cautious without their shield 24/7 (I’m talking quickplay, I never subject myself to comp, I played one in S7 OW1 and got GM so that’s enough for me). I assume in comp Rein is okay since people would instantly counter.

@namelessliberty9869 5 часов назад

I hate this too, they do it in ranked. So many games where reinhardt holds W and left click the entire game and they're 50/2 and nobody can deal with him because the guy doesn't die. Rammatra also gets away with this, they clap every 5 seconds and basically get a new health bar with armor and he can punch your team in the head all day and we all die. Tanks are too crazy in this game.

@BPViking 4 часа назад

@Kaiji… yeah I don’t mind it sometimes but it can be annoying

@greengem9132 17 часов назад

Shes the worst to up against in total mayhem

@BPViking 12 часов назад

I can probably think of worse, although I see where you’re coming from

@greengem9132 4 часа назад

@@BPViking it's really annoying when player's keep throwing the javelin...

@gamertagge8429 3 дня назад

when dva get nerfed yeah orisa stall i love doom against her lmao

@mirandaprins8065 День назад

Doomfist was right

@kalb390 3 дня назад

0:16 what's that sound effect from? I heard it before.

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Don’t know where it’s from but I just have it labelled as ‘question mark sound effect’

@ayduldoro6971 2 дня назад

I’ve heard it from the Ace Attorney series

@oojclops7257 2 дня назад

"evidence found" from ace attorney

@milanensor2883 11 часов назад

Feel like it's from spyro

@Flame03265 2 дня назад

I like orisa

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Ok cool

@TherealllAxtonyt2015 3 дня назад

i love orisa. am i ok?

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Maybe

@1ARSONIST546 2 дня назад

do doomfist next 🙏

@BPViking 2 дня назад

Sorry not next. At some point though

@kazuma9368 3 дня назад

Bro orisa is mid now, talk about dva ….

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Some people still hate playing against her, regardless of her power level. Also this was mostly a history video about how people’s opinions of her have changed over time

@America938 2 дня назад

Cover rammattra

@BPViking 2 дня назад

I will at some point but probably not for a while since he’s still relatively new

@sparrowilan7418 3 дня назад

Please do symmetra 💠👌🏾

@BPViking 3 дня назад

One day I most likely will, although she isn’t currently at the top of my list

@Elsailormoon 2 дня назад

I like her I think she is funny 😋

@demongs7481 День назад

😢 Mei please

@BPViking День назад

At some point, but I regret to inform you she isn’t currently at the top of my list

@demongs7481 День назад

@@BPViking in that case I will be in the back of the line as a subscriber 👋

@BPViking День назад

I appreciate your patience, there are a lot of heroes to get round to but she also isn’t dead last so we’ll see what happens

@ujjwalsingh5188 3 дня назад

I m liking and sub for I want my rein video : D

@BPViking 3 дня назад

Won’t be the next one but it’s coming relatively soon I promise

@ujjwalsingh5188 3 дня назад

@@BPViking pinky promise?

@BPViking 3 дня назад

I won’t promise anything that concretely right now, but I can almost guarantee he will be one of the next 2 tanks I cover. He is my most played hero after all

@Mavuika_Gyaru 3 дня назад

It's simple, yall are just playing against her wrong. Literally just ignore her. Same thing with Hamon. Jump her team and if you still lose that's quite literally a skill issue