Why Do People HATE Razors? Why Do Skaters QUIT The Brand?

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Razors Skates was once, one of the most dominant brands in aggressive skating but in the last 10-15 years their reputation has taken a fair few knocks as various elite skaters have fallen out with the brand and aired their issues publicly, via podcasts and other social media.
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Recently their reputation has come into question again after Billy O'Neill, owner of Mesmer and ex-Razors rider, claimed Mesmer skates were not being stock in some shop because Andy (Owner of Razors Skates) was threatening to pull his skates if they did. This was then denied by Sunshine Distribution manager (Razors, Reign, GC) Geoff Acers but the post became a catalyst for people to bring up older problems with the brand and their management.
In this video I’m going to cover Razors dominance in the 2000's to all the fall outs and drama around Razors since then - up until more more recent events.
Even just two years ago there was pay dispute with Yandriel Silverio and Razors came under a lot of scrutiny for seemingly not doing enough to help out pro team rider Jeph Howard after he suffered serious injuries during the filming of his Razors Skates promo video.
This has also raised the question how much do Razors Skates do for the culture, especially in comparison to other brands?
From 2001 to 2010 Razors Skates put out some of rollerblading’s best videos Uncloned, Steal this video, Closer, Ego, Icons and Game Theory. They have had some of the most iconic skaters in rollerblading on their team, from the likes of Brian Shima to Brian Aragon, Jon Elliot to Mike Johnson, Jeff Stockwell to Dre Powell and Billy O’Neill plus loads loads more.
They have played a massive part in shaping rollerblading, but not so much recently. People love their skates and they have a loyal following - if the brand were to leave it would have a big impact. Historically when brands leave rollerblading people don’t just typically move onto the next brand, there is always a drop off in numbers, and rollerblading has such a fragile eco system that could have a massive knock on effect - which nobody wants.
What people do want is for Razors skates to do better, to be more responsible for their skaters and add more value to the culture beyond the skates.
We have to consider that there are nuances to all these stories and without actually being there we don’t know what the truth is - so these stories are alleged.
00:00 Why do skaters keeping falling out with Razors Skates?
00:30 Andy Vs Billy O’Neill and Mesmer
02:02 The most dominant force in rollerblading
02:34 Iconic Razors Skaters - Brain Shima, Brian Aragon, Mike Johnson, Sean Kelso
03:30 Pro riders quitting - Dominic Bruce, John Fromm, Howie Bennett
04:45 Derek Henderson has to pay for his own promo video
05:16 Jeph Howard Injured while filming promo skate video
07:57 Pay Disputes with Yandriel Silverio - people leaving the team
08:53 Making team riders pay for skates
09:25 Talented skaters who have left Razors Skates, Ana Julia, Ilia Savosin
09:54 Julian Bah fired Iain McLeod situation
10:40 Jeff Stockwell couldn’t get his pro skate
11:10 Leon Humphries name wrong on pro Razors skate
12:00 Did they block Mesmer Skates
14:15 Starting beef again
14:43 The good things they’ve done - Andrew Broom skate, Ghetto Community Skate
15:34 The old system isn’t working - There is no more mega star skaters
17:18 Julien Cudot Turns down Razors skates
17:48 Do people care about rollerblading and can the brand do better
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5 авг 2024

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@billyoneill5424 25 дней назад

This was balanced, in my opinion. Good work. I didn’t want it to get to this level, and hope things can simmer. To the person who said i was “wrong”, i would have to stand my ground and say the information i received was pretty direct and from a reliable source. Yes, the context of what was said can be interpreted differently, as i was not present for the actual chat, but the conversation was had and it was on those subjects. I took down the story bc Andy called and said if i didn’t take it down then he would sue me for defamation, which later in the conversation he said he would not have done, to his credit. Then i asked him to explain the story and he pretty much said what Geoff said. It ended cordially. Still, in my opinion, talking with another shop owner specifically about our brand, our margins and what would happen if he were to raise his margins is inappropriate as far as I’m concerned. When you have a relationship of making money with a shop over the course of 30 years, to have this conversation about new brands is distasteful and suggestive, in my opinion. That said, i wanna see this cool off. Stick to our shit and keep doing the work. Not out here to ruffle feathers but i felt provoked to say something, so i did. Maybe coulda gone about it differently, and probably so. Moving forward lets just do our best, and ill focus on that.

@lucaspauken 25 дней назад

8 years ago I'd say cool it off, today I say heat it up. We don't need them anymore. But props to your diplomacy.

@noragrettispaghetti 25 дней назад

good on you for standing up to bullies.

@seanpellegrino2989 24 дня назад

I agree with your feeling that this should just cool off. Your personality and what you have done for the industry speaks for itself. Nobody ever gets a greedy sleazeball vibe coming off of you or Mesmer.

@simongore29 24 дня назад

Well done, Billy. This community is too tight and scared for people like Andy to behave in that way. He doesn't seem to realise it's not benefitting him. I believe in exposure and transparency - thanks for telling the truth and standing your ground

@freedomcaller 22 дня назад

Isn't it illegal and violating antitrust laws to discuss other companies profit margins?

@brenthicks6879 25 дней назад

The Jon Fromm comment was exactly what I was told. You’re not Brian Aragon. Let’s send you to these park competitions and see how you perform.. I did decent placing top 5 numerous times but you didn’t sponsor me for my park skating… it really did take the love out of the sport for me I can’t lie. It’s like telling a baseball player to play golf. He may be decent but it’s not his realm. All in all this video is spot on. It’s really was all about the big names and if they spent more time nurturing the skaters for who they are and the reason they got sponsored in the first place they really could have gone a long way. Sad to see where the sport is today but glad the actual skaters who invest in the industry and put it back in have a good future ahead of them. All that said where’s my shoutout lol😂.. I definitely have some tea!

@dat_son 25 дней назад

@@brenthicks6879 bs, your Ego part was a solid banger. You ripped dude

@17BKS 24 дня назад

@@dat_son 💯 Incredible section…the three best parts in that vid (Bah, O’Neill, Hicks) were the folks who weren’t really getting paid for it!

@untchableninja 24 дня назад

Was a big fan of yours! Like dat_son said, your ego section was a banger and the Kanye KFC section! You had the best looking 270 back farve in the game 🔥🔥

@johnpaullapointe5809 23 дня назад

Brent you’re a real one dude! Absolute savage rollerblader - EscoZoo for life man

@daveedarevalo1 23 дня назад

I still watch your ego section to hype up! Even at work! lol

@shredmajor700 25 дней назад

The best thing about these Razors videos is I learn some new terrible information about the history of the company. I can't believe they spelled Leon's name wrong, probably the most unprofessional pro product ever.

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Hahaha what a mess hey

@seanpellegrino2989 24 дня назад

I assume it was his last name they got wrong, or did it come out saying Lion Humphries?

@shredmajor700 24 дня назад

@@seanpellegrino2989 no idea, I looked for evidence and couldn't find any. But I trust Leon, he's a legend.

@simongore29 24 дня назад

Such a balls up for one of the earliest UK pro skates, too (I want to say the 2nd...?)

@southsideautobodyuk6510 23 дня назад

@@seanpellegrino2989the p and the h were the wrong way around it said “Humhpries”

@leinadllerp 21 день назад

when i started placing well in german competitions i got into the grindhouse team so i got all the skates i ever wanted for free. then talk came up about a razors germany team and i received a pre sale model of the shima II. i was pretty young and super proud so i didnt ask for more, no shirts, nothing. There was a homepage with the german team including a picture of me and some text. I completely destroyed the skate, loved it, shredded it, represented hard. After some time i asked for spare parts but never received an answer. during a competition in frankfurt my skate was in such bad shape people asked me why i was skating such a fucked up skate. I had to change backslide plate with a friend who royals with the right foot cause there was nothing left of mine... Still no answer from razors. I got pretty sad and decided it was time to order a skate from grindhouse. they sent it over and asked why cause i should be getting skates from razors. anyway andy ended up pretending i was never on the team and they just gave me 1 promo skate to test. funny how i ended up on the team homepage but yeah no thanks razors.

@davidtikva1860 25 дней назад

Dre Powell brought me around the Razors house around 2010. Andy and I had a few chats about the state of rollerblading and its future. This was right around the time Chaz was in town for the filming of the Ground Control video. Andy did a lot of complaining about the San Marcos house being a huge burden for him while the whole team was killing themselves. His attitude was basically “fuck the team I have Aragon” then ranting in and on about how he wished the Nyhm team was his. ended up going with the team to Vegas the trip ended up costing me nearly $6000 and I had to sell my MacBook Pro.

@ieatshit1 25 дней назад

Yup, this sounds like a rollerblader story.

@noragrettispaghetti 25 дней назад

Tom you need to do a follow-up episode with all the subsequent comments and tea you get from everyone you missed, that came out after this 😂

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

I'll do a live stream for it

@dat_son 25 дней назад

Agreed about Jake doing more for Razors, he needs the next pro model

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Amazing skater

@pdex6685 25 дней назад

A LOT Of people got their start on razors thru shop sponsors, you are OG if you had a sunshine hookup, however once they did hella people dirty it destroyed the value of the company’s reputation. Andy ain’t a skater so fuck him, and Jeff seems chill but I couldn’t look in the mirror knowing I was Andy’s lap dog.

@J3f3R20n 25 дней назад

I remember seeing a post from Brazilian rider Rafael Gonçalves saying he spent around U$500 because of a trip for a promo vid for his am intro because Razors didn't pay anything to help create that. Bare in mind that U$500 in brazil is like, 5x that (For a quick example, U$500 = 2,720 BRL, minimum monthly wage here is around 1400 BRL) and i guess that was one thing that made him just quit skating because i've never seen him skating again and he was like, top tier skating on par to Eugen in terms of technique and switch ups.

@BemagOfficial 25 дней назад

Great work as always, Tom.

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Thanks mate - much appreciated

@tonywestwood777 24 дня назад

Aragon walking away completely sent me!

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

Hahaha love that song

@moomoochacoo 25 дней назад

Beat from Switzerland got screwed as well. He left them and went to Trigger skates and eventually got a pro skate from them

@that_which_is_not 24 дня назад

I’m intrigued by their online presence and marketing, they are in shops and obviously have legacy sales but the new generation of skaters has very little branding or advertising to connect with the brand. The other brands do so much and are so much more inspirational, particularly to young people. There’s no doubt Razors makes great skates, I just wonder what that brand will look like in the next 5 to 10 years, for example

@BltchErica 24 дня назад

Yea, I feel that the only Razors customers are people who used to skate when they were popular. I used to look at Brian Aragon and cool dudes like him at my skatepark all wearing SLs so I felt like that's the skate I needed in order to be cool. And I did love the look of the skate. Since less people skate Razors now and go for brands like Them, kids just can't associate Razors with something they would desire. Razors to me was the iPhone of rollerblading 😂

@stuco 20 дней назад

They have some good designs but the skates are made as cheaply as possible.

@lucaspauken 25 дней назад

Problem with razors is that they've had the worst attitude, but the most consistent quality. The best thing that's happened to rollerblading is people like Julio and Billy offering a reasonable and industry driven alternatives. market share was powerful before, but it won't be what keeps them around anymore. I love the SL, I love the flat/super flat progenitors. They did a good job with the tech and it was their game to lose. They lost. Look at all the people they had who walked away. Even ogs like Shane that sided with yandy. They've never taken care of anyone including Jeph.

@DankPeezy 25 дней назад

What a great take on this situation Tom! I heard of shady business practices from Razors even back in the early 2000's. Not getting riders parts they would need, even for comps and other skaters or shops helping them out. Razors seems like they really need a change in management. Andy should just be quiet and stop creating PR nightmares that have to be cleaned up. Seems like a very unsophisticated guy. We just ALL need to keep supporting the companies that give back like Them, USD, Standard and Mesmer. Now, go Tspin Mistrial 360 rewind off of something homies! 🤙

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

🙌🏻🙌🏻

@andrewrice9362 25 дней назад

That was a good balanced video. Loco did an article interviewing Andy a while back and it was interesting to hear from his side but the sheer amount of stories that you hear about doesn’t do him any favours and there must be some truth to them. It’s annoying because they’re a great skate. They’re so reliable, comfortable and perfect for almost any grind. I tried them skates and while they where decent they just fell apart far too often.

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Yep we definitely have to consider there’s lots of nuances and details to the stories We are just not aware of publicly, but like you say there’s a lot more leaning a certain way. Razors make great Skates and if they’re the only ones that work for you, definitely get them and keep rollerblading. There is plenty of ways to support other brands via wheels frames, etc going comps. I wonder if in the next 5 to 10 years, will the brands that are more about the community and doing more for outside exposure grow bigger and then the industry becomes less reliant on razors skates?

@jordskates 25 дней назад

I find it odd that Razors used the Cult shell for years without buying the rights to it from the manufacturer so it wasn't open source. Or if that wasn't possible they still could have used it better at the entry level end. Look at the rollerskate brand Impala, they used it for a budget skate and smashed it. They even have regular sports shops selling them

@seandykink 25 дней назад

In the 2000s I only owned Razors, the Elliot’s, Stockwells, Shima’s, man those were the days!

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Great skates

@Juice2Fifty 25 дней назад

Great summary of all that’s (publicly) transpired so far. I had a pair of Razors back in the late 90’s, loved ‘em, and wanted a pair when I got back into skating, but ended up going with Them because of all the support they give the community.

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Razors make great skates for sure, I’ve had pairs in the past but you’re spot on THEM do more for the community right now.

@eigengrau1 25 дней назад

Word

@prod.bronze 25 дней назад

Same as me. Got a pair of Them 909's recently after skating razors in the early 2000's. I chose them as they're in tune with the community and active in growing the scene.

@jokeyxero 25 дней назад

Razors was one of the first to start making pros in the southeast of the US back in the 90s and I've known several people that benefited from that. They did so much good at the time. But also all of those people I knew have had a falling out with Andy in particular. I only started learning about it all last year. It's been going on so long and with so many people that I just can't support them anymore. They have some of my favorite gear too. And I'm one of the people that need something at least as wide as an SL or I can't skate. The whole situation sucks. I want Razors to thrive but I want the community to thrive without the business owners making enemies everywhere more.

@JiggyGinJoints 24 дня назад

Great work as always Tom! But my heart broke when you said "cost for the ambulance". Razors and the US needs to civilize.

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

It’s wild what people have to deal with in America when it comes to health care. It’s actually scary

@jasoncalva 25 дней назад

Tom, you're a gem to our community. Thanks for such a well-put together review of the Razors drama. I wish Geoff Acers was the brand owner, he's an awesome guy.

@seang.6901 25 дней назад

he really isn't though 😕

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Yea I think it would be a step in the right direction if Geoff had more control

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

@@seang.6901who

@simongore29 24 дня назад

There's nothing like destroying a legacy that other people made for you. I'm glad people are exposing these events now but I don't think the community would be better without Razors products. Thanks for the great video, Tom. Very well delivered

@TomMoyse 23 дня назад

Thank you

@eigengrau1 26 дней назад

Looking forward to this one.. Cause i have to admit; *cough .. I own a pair of razors; but ready for the roast 🍖

@LOFTY-34 25 дней назад

snap shima 2s and 3 and cults and i love mine

@eigengrau1 25 дней назад

#metoo But let's see what the video brings.. I think it's more about the brand and its behaviour/policy; Not the skates.

@justgarethsphone9663 25 дней назад

Think ive spent over 3k on razors the past 10 years, sad to hear the pro’s that got me interested in the products barely made a hundo of that

@2WheelsGood.01 7 дней назад

What a shame. I grew up skating Razors almost exclusively in the early 00's. The Cult series, Dre Powell, Shima 3, etc.

@mellowmoony 25 дней назад

Skate within your limits & pay the mortgage... That's words I can get behind

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Haha thanks. Get the hat while you can!

@w-h-y- 23 дня назад

Man it’s crazy how much work you put into these videos. Finding and cutting all of the clips. Great job. Also Acres is a good guy caught in the middle

@TomMoyse 23 дня назад

Thank you man!

@williamdixon-gk2sk 25 дней назад

I love seeing clips of Glen Cove elementary. That's where I learned to skate handrails 25 years ago.

@crayfishroll 25 дней назад

Awesome perspective on this issue! Keep up the good content

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Thanks mate. 🙌🏻

@Reloaded44 24 дня назад

Keep up the work sir this small ass community needs you 💚

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

Much appreciated dude

@TronTonics 24 дня назад

Korey need a pro skate a long time ago. He's been holding it down for the bay area for a long long time.

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

He had a pro SL but it was a long time ago. Due another

@edwardinglis7963 17 дней назад

I swear the miss spelt Leon boot was literally the Dunkle boot with the name rubbed off and they justified dropping Charles because sales weren’t good in Europe. That was nearly 20 years ago. Pretty sad that he’s been involved all this time and yet doesn’t seem to actually care.

@TomMoyse 17 дней назад

Yea I believe Dunkles was the same skate. So many stories over the years.

@austerberrys101 25 дней назад

Another great deep dive Tom, I myself had Razors for years I had Shima's and Shima 2's, Stockwells and a couple pairs of cults before I switched. Never did I think this was going on back in the day. I guess with social media now things come out in the wash more. Also still waiting for the Tom Moyse Invitational 😂 or T.M.I 👊

@nicholasswan 22 дня назад

Great work on this, tons of research, effort, and time put into your media. Keep it going Tom ❤️

@TomMoyse 22 дня назад

Cheers pal

@pfitzisrobin 24 дня назад

I had one pair of razors when I was in highschool and wasnt a fan of the skate but mostly had remz but razor always had some awesome products and videos, as a remz fan it frustrates me to hear about how great of a team razor has and how it would be pretty easy for razors to give more pro models even if they are a special color way of a team skate. I agree i think that more companies need to do more to give back and giving back doesnt always have to be money or free stuff but to see an industry that is so small in some aspects but has such potential a razors tour, comp, am comp could bring alot of light back into the company and skating.

@tionik06 24 дня назад

@Tom I wanna see more of your skate clips. I only found one and it was good!

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

Thanks

@gargamel3393 24 дня назад

My buddy really loved their skates. I guess I've never tried them myself. I was never a big fan of full hardboot skates of any kind to be fair. I do really miss those black and yellow K2s I had back in the day though. I would love to see those make a comeback.

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

K2 fatty pros

@NicolaTorelli 25 дней назад

Great video as always man!

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Appreciate it!

@matthewclark3217 25 дней назад

Great piece. Could say a bunch in reaction about how Razors has been missing the point of clearly being a legacy brand…but I digress. Thank you for adding Kendrick to this edit. 😅

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Kendrick the 🐐

@chrisgoblin4857 25 дней назад

As a company, they are canny scummy. As far as the skates go, I love my SL Henderson 2 more than anything else I've had since coming back. Also rate GC frames and I'm impressed with Reign liners too. It's a shame because their products are perfect for me and the way I skate, but the ethics are not great. Love Andrew Broom's skating as well. His pro skate edit is probably my favourite in the last few years.

@thetreeworkshop 25 дней назад

forget rzrs, get the new mesmers when they come out! you know what promodel....

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

@@thetreeworkshop oi oi oi! 🙌🏻

@meangenes3295 25 дней назад

Great video per usual!!!

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Thanks

@benleah4783 25 дней назад

I left skating circa 2002, pretty sure I recall Razors being a lower end skate? did they move up the market in the interim?

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Shima made them massive. Plus all the iconic skaters that came between 2001 and 2010

@jenkims1953 25 дней назад

yes razors took off around 2003/2004, they where are iconic and that whole era of skating up until around 2011 has some of the best footage from razors skaters. I would say they were the most memorable team of the last few decades. If rollerblading was to poster child a team to sell it to the mass it would be that OG one. its a shame too because they had good looking boots for the time. I also never knew it was this shady behind the scenes, it means that many of those skaters missed opportunity but it would of hurt the sport pretty bad by result. More than i knew of i dont look at the sport like this so i had no idea,

@cianhackett 24 дня назад

The Shima clip at 15.52 what video is this on, remember this blowing my mind when i first seen it. Had it saved to my desktop in a folder called brian shima

@FR-AN 25 дней назад

Yo! I've seen that Capone line somewhere before... 🤔🤣 cheers mate! Another sweer vid!

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Haha 🙌🏻 loved that!!! You nailed it for me

@FR-AN 25 дней назад

@@TomMoyse Honored to be of service to the spotted cause.

@RichTeaChannel 25 дней назад

Sounds like they just need to fire this Andy guy and the company can move forwards

@NOISlights 25 дней назад

Same with roces

@nilseckel 25 дней назад

I'm pretty sure that Murda said on Jump Street Podcast, that the Pro Team had Health Insurance.

@seanpellegrino2989 24 дня назад

I think if I remember correctly that he also said he made it a condition of him staying with the brand or something like that. It definitely wouldn't be something a brand would willingly offer up to their riders.

@Metal_Scott 25 дней назад

Dang it! I was waiting for those new color ways on that hat. Now I need to wait for another blue restock. I need that hat!

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Damn, yea they went fast again.

@diniaceleste5892 25 дней назад

I personally find them kind of on the stiff side, I prefer remz soft boot. They have more flexibility on the ankles

@almostremembered 25 дней назад

Razors are the softest boots out right now. All 3 boots are really soft, but maybe not compared to Remz.

@seanpellegrino2989 24 дня назад

I also bought Remz back in the day instead of Razors in terms of skate Sunshine offered.

@diniaceleste5892 24 дня назад

@@seanpellegrino2989 I'm 47 and I love to skate, it's been awhile since I can't afford skates right now. But I'll love to be out there shredding

@juancsmix 24 дня назад

that "is is true though" at 4:21 . DEAD

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

😝

@17BKS 25 дней назад

It’s a shame because they’re probably the best-grinding skate (aside from Standards maybe). Side note but if they’d invested the money sometime in the past quarter century to make an in-betweener shell size for the Cult and Shift (have an actual 10 shell jn addition to the current 8-9 and 10-11), that’d be amazing. But yes some foolishness and short-sightedness…Sacha Lopez and Savosin, for instance, are unique talents they should’ve promoted, and they should be paying Broom to travel and film/compete wherever he wants to go. Elliott deserves a lot of credit for building up their image and brand…prior to him taking the reins for marketing, they were akin to Trigger/Anarchy, no offense to those brands 😅

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

You’re right, Elliot and Shima made that brand

@deionsandals423 25 дней назад

Gud vid mate. Creaky ole Razors

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Thanks

@jdo7021 25 дней назад

When Aragon left; Razors who?

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Haha

@dmofOfficial 25 дней назад

I just don't like Razor skates. They don't fit me right. But shitty about Andy... why does he even own a skate company then? He should sell it to someone who cares.

@billmakesmovies 6 дней назад

I’d bring back Solomon, because that’s what I skated when I was a kid, and I remember not being half bad. Kinda want to try again, in my 30s, but can’t decide what to buy. I would have a pair already if I could buy some Solomons. Having to learn all of these brands I’ve never heard of is weird. 🤷‍♂️

@TomMoyse 6 дней назад

Them 909s, USD Sways, Mesmers or m12 are a good start

@stuco 25 дней назад

If FR came back it could have a new meaning.

@itwasfoodpoisoning...6067 25 дней назад

Hi Tom, almost all of your merch is sold out, are you going to drop new items in the nearer future?

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Absolutely. What kind of stuff are you looking for?

@itwasfoodpoisoning...6067 23 дня назад

@@TomMoyse The current caps are exactly the type of humor I need in my life right now!

@jaredbeyer8745 25 дней назад

I had a a pair back in the day and I really liked um.

@Alphanecevitshorts 25 дней назад

My good friend was flow for razors 2001 till 2008 . He never called him back to say “ we are not sponsoring you any more ‘’ .

@TomMoyse 23 дня назад

Damm

@nofx21081 20 дней назад

Wow… how did Razors become so recognizable with Andy seeming so shady towards the most important part of the brand. TALENT!

@TomMoyse 20 дней назад

The riders from 2001 to 2010 made that brand

@danatello8489 22 дня назад

It's a shame the reputation of Razors the company doesn't match that of Razors the skate. If only they could focus on being lauded & thought of as fondly as the skates people get from them.

@TomMoyse 22 дня назад

Yep. It’s completely within their reach to turn it around

@joshuawetzbarger6130 25 дней назад

I rollerblade back on the bay when it started I did not not use razor I was a usd person

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Shout out USD

@caseycameron5370 22 дня назад

USD was the shit

@themostawesometripswithzac5839 25 дней назад

I def got 40 pairs of skates though! lol, glad my FB comment made it into a video. Pretty dope.

@bistolida 22 дня назад

Imagine that.. Stockwell couldn't even get a pair of his own skates 🤦 May as well have had "Andy" written on the boot.

@TomMoyse 21 день назад

Mad ain’t it

@Youareanotherme-rn9sr 23 дня назад

Love the states, that's all that matters for me as a buyer.

@TomMoyse 23 дня назад

Genuine question, what do you think Razors adds the culture beyond a skate, what do they give the community? As a buyer I want the brand I support to be nurturing the culture through their team, tours, content, competitions, reaching outside markets etc

@Youareanotherme-rn9sr 23 дня назад

@@TomMoyse not my cup of tea. I just wanna skate! That's what i love, that's what i do.

@BFTVCanada 22 дня назад

I love razors alot, and the Shifts is probably the best skate I have ever skated. But dam, Andy needs to learn from these mistakes and hear what the community is saying. Hopefully, he cares enough to fix this or sell the company to someone who cares. I know there isn't a lot of money in it for companies, but im sure they can do better.

@TomMoyse 22 дня назад

I can’t imagine he will change his tact anytime soon - he doesn’t care, it’s business

@FATBASSTV 22 дня назад

I hate that I have a wider foot and the SLs fit me the best. I want a pair of Them skates but the foot box is too narrow 😭

@TomMoyse 22 дня назад

Dammnnn

@BackLogH3ro 25 дней назад

The love the Razors Skates Boots, i think they are all superb, its such a shame that the brand always brings up some bad news about something :/ I think they have a really good product catalog but the need to do better with their team and people.

@masterazlan6999 25 дней назад

I don't..Peace!

@Mediocre_at_best 25 дней назад

I just bought a pair recently and now I'm bummed out for supporting such a dogshit brand....

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

If the skates work for you that’s great - you can support other brands in different ways like wheels, frames, liners etc all we can do is ask more of Razors coz their skates are good.

@BackLogH3ro 25 дней назад

i get you, but the skates are very good. So now you have them and dont let something like this ruin your own personal fun.

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

@@BackLogH3ro but be conscious of the other ways you can support the industry so the brands that truly care about the culture grow - as does the community they bring in

@justgarethsphone9663 25 дней назад

Damn Razors :( you gotta look after your dawgz

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

🐶

@R0B690 25 дней назад

Couldve made this video a bit earlier before I bought Razors skates lol. I do like the skates though. I didnt know anything about the drama behind it.

@daniellewinton2398 6 дней назад

If other brands did size 13 I would quit razors

@D-5000m 15 дней назад

Because the mid sole break after less 1 year of using these skate, I mean the SL system is just a bad and poor design, too much pieces between boot and frame.

@TomMoyse 15 дней назад

Haha

@caseycameron5370 22 дня назад

Whys no one doin fanergons? Im quite sure im spellin it wrong

@thughes5187 25 дней назад

Passed on the razors waiting on the echos

@user-id2mn3is9x 25 дней назад

The wrong name😭😂

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Absolute stinker

@zICkstep 25 дней назад

Facts

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

🙌🏻

@Nuttyirishman85 24 дня назад

Solomon’s came out, end of Razor.

@caseycameron5370 22 дня назад

I had a pair Solomon's a mate gave me they were so damn good

@Nuttyirishman85 22 дня назад

@@caseycameron5370 They were really good. I switched to skateboarding shortly after, but Solomon’s were great before I did.

@joshpalmer4889 24 дня назад

I wonder what Andy’s monthly expenses are and could that could be a determining factor in the decisions he made

@YEE941 23 дня назад

Yo Tom great vid. You shoulda included when Murda Johnson got injured during filing for game theory and Andy called him and said his word don’t matter because he hasn’t been skating. Murda designed the SL shell. It was mentioned on his jump street podcast. Andy sucks

@TomMoyse 23 дня назад

I’d completely forgotten about that one! Thank you for sharing it. Shout out Mike!

@kevinpetrie6167 25 дней назад

Yaaay.made the video 😅

@Hayyothhakodesh 24 дня назад

I was all about razors skates till they offer no real warranty to the skates I bought 3 pairs of razors skates and I had hardware malfunction totally not my fault within the first 2 months of having them only skating them 3 times. They offered zero warranty to help me. They wanted me to pay for it!! I'm am now on a warpath against razors skates. Their gear is crap and they don't support their customers. Razors shud be boycotted. Terrible brand. Let the world know!!!

@bicyclingbum1551 25 дней назад

How come it's not called blading 😭 or bladers .. let's go blade !

@overhill6822 25 дней назад

I liked them until I tried on a pair. Weirdest feeling skate idk doo doo.😂🎉

@juancsmix 24 дня назад

came for the jokes. dont care much about the drama.

@user-id2mn3is9x 25 дней назад

Theyre just very og i guess so what i mean is not really knowing what the Internet is💀

@DIRELusca 25 дней назад

Companies that treat their riders like a meat market won't think much better of the rest

@chrisbauman2562 18 дней назад

What? I love mine. I have a stand pair in black and bobi passover purple customs. They're nasty

@TomMoyse 18 дней назад

Sounds nasty

@claudeJUNIOR 25 дней назад

A Lion...

@TomMoyse 25 дней назад

Witch and wardrobe

@claudeJUNIOR 25 дней назад

@@TomMoyse Actually I was complimenting your hair.

@denzense 25 дней назад

Pretty sure razors has survived because of south America... I have to say that to the countries I've been in I would say that 60% of the rollerbladers i saw used those skates. 🤮🤮🤮

@Surfclub23 24 дня назад

I haven't seen a rollerblader in a decade!

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

Surprise

@Surfclub23 23 дня назад

@@TomMoyse I think newer Rollerblades have just 2 wheels and handle bars in the front

@giovanniamore7532 24 дня назад

coke

@IcyBird420 12 дней назад

Never wore blades never would. But whoever owns that company sounds like a slimeball.

@Martin_Krutina 24 дня назад

comment

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

Appreciative reply

@handofbeech 23 дня назад

FROOT

@user-id2mn3is9x 25 дней назад

🗿🗿🗿😵🤣

@BackLogH3ro 25 дней назад

"you are not Aragon or Shima" sounds like that this is comming from a toxic, narcissistic person.

@simongore29 24 дня назад

Yeah that's exactly what I thought. I've been doing narcissism research for years now and that prick fits the mold

@pokerdealer2003 25 дней назад

RollerBlade Lightnings circa 1988 was the goodest time to be alive......

@rafaelbintb 24 дня назад

Lot’s of theories! Just a few facts! Lack of proof! Like always Tom Moyse beeing the gossip girl of the scene! - If Jeph’s still on Razors he must have his reasons otherwise he would have quit, dont you think? - If some skaters do not receive as much attention as Brian Aragon or Shima or Murda received it’s because Andy believes they’re not as commercial as the legends, and it’s Andy call because it’s his money at stake, or will any skater will give Andy 20.000 to 40.000 usd to buy a minimum of 500 pairs per model? - Billy I never liked you as well! - Ana Julia was my responsibility in Brazil, and her “trainer”, that in fact do not even know how to skate, got her a good sponsor and as far as we know, he gets 30% of her money in the process. Why she’s out of Razors? Because we think he’s useless, especially at the Championships. We never paid him to train Ana only his expenses be for being her driver. Taking Ana out of Razos make him free of us, and now he is traveling internationally and well paid for doing nothing to her! - Regarding mesmer, so sorry if you’re trying to blame someone for not selling as much as Razors! If you could develop a good skate, as Razors has, I do believe you could sell better. - All the other stuff, cry haters, angstyteencrying!

@TomMoyse 24 дня назад

Mate you’ve complete jumped the shark. Read the description. I’ve clearly said there is details and nuances we don’t know about this situations so we have to keep that in mind. But by the way, these are just the stories that are public there are way more stories, even the scooter riders have stories. I also literally said Jeph is still skating for them so we have to consider that. But a few people who aren’t bothered doesn’t hold much weight against a tide of stories saying the opposite - or are the all making it up. Seems like a bit of a tinfoil hat conspiracy that. Numerous people, over a decade all with similar stories. It’s hard to have a productive conversation around this subject when you’ve not even paid attention to what I said. You’d be foolish to believe that any of these skaters felt any kind of way for not being treated the same as Aragon - no one said they did, the point is andy relied on people like Aragon and Shima and now they don’t exist he doesn’t care as much, which is fine he can run his business like that but there’s other brands that do way more for the culture and the future of rollerblading. You talk about Ana Julia, consider telling a 16 year to quit skating, not: maybe skate for someone else, but quit. Coz that’s what he allegedly said to Wake.

@rafaelbintb 23 дня назад

@@TomMoyse I jumped the Shark? I do not believe this at all! As far I am concerned you’re the only one here trying to get likes, promoting your only self by introducing the chaos inside, like you by yourself said, a very small environment!! This small environment is the answer for at least 80% of all vomited complaints, no money, no shining! You’re boring man, use all the attention you have to promote something good! Razors and Andy will not become rich and pay the skaters like the sports stars, or make pro models of non commercial athletes just because you’re saying Razors don’t care about athletes! They do care, but unfortunately they can’t carry all the burden alone! Ask USD athletes if they’re happy with what they receive as well! Please stop being a chaos agent and start becoming a growing agent, our sport needs union not more division! Peace

@TomMoyse 23 дня назад

@@rafaelbintbAs if I’m going to listen to your advice. You don’t even possess basic levels of comprehension. Yes, you jumped the shark, proof of that is in my description. Did you say you were responsible for Ana Julia? You might want to check my previous video about the future of rollerblading - coz you either jumped the shark again or you haven’t seen it. Keep fighting ghosts mate and believing whatever narrative suits your mood.

@YEE941 23 дня назад

When murda got hurt filming for game theory Andy called him and said his word don’t matter because he is not skating. Mind you Murda designed the SL skate. This was mentioned on his episode of jumpstreet podcast

@rafaelbintb 22 дня назад

@@TomMoyse like always just talking shit about everything you don’t like, disrespecting and calling stupid or no good everyone you don’t like! I challenge you, start a new brand and try to do something different than we’re doing! After this what you say will have some value!