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Sonic and Shadow are the only supersonic fast hedgehogs at the time, and no one knows who Shadow is; so of course they're going to guess that the Supersonic fast hedgehog-looking person is Sonic. In the previous game, Sonic has even transformed publicly into a form with the exact same spine shape as Shadow. Also G.U.N has every reason to want to cover up Shadow's existence, as they'd want to cover up how they murdered hundreds of innocent scientists on the ARK after Shadow's creation. As for Amy? Well.... she's dumb.
the slow turn he does when amy hugs him is so funny, especially since he doesn't say literally anything else for the rest of the cutscene. Dudes in shock lmao
I don't believe that Tails would actually think that Sonic had gone rouge, and if he did then it was for a good reason if anything. Sonic does what he wants when he wants but he also has a strong sense of justice.
G.U.N were the only ones who knew about Shadow, so they used Sonic to try to cover up all of the public sightings to avoid letting people know about Proyect Shadow. Plus, Sonic transformed into Super Sonic when Perfect Chaos attacked Station Square, so people already knew he was able to change and alter his form, colors and appearance, and at the time he was the only fast hedgehog until Shadow came in
Fun Fact: People only knew about Sonic & never knew Shadow so they thought Sonic was turned into a Evil Version of himself being Shadow’s Twin since Shadow was born & created first before Sonic ever existed since Shadow was born & created on the Space Colony Ark back in 1951 & Sonic was born & created back in 1991 which was 10 years later when Shadow was first introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 in all of Sonic Video Games History back in 2001 on Sonic’s 10th Anniversary of the Year.
also, we don't actually see anyone outside of G.U.N. (who are hiding Shadow's existence) and the media (likely paid off by G.U.N.) pushing this "Shadow is Sonic" narrative, so for all we know, there's a decent chance no-one really bought it...except for Amy, who likely thought Sonic just had some new form, at a glance.
Don't forget that she did the same thing to Silver. Though it seems that through some tarot card magic abilities or something like that Amy can just sense the general area where Sonic is (as well as turn invisible). I say this because she pretty much said that she can sense him with her "girlish intuition" in the English dub of Sonic 06 and she somehow knew that Sonic was in Spagonia despite having no reason to have that info, and she knew that the Werehog was Sonic instinctively, but because she isn't completely blind she almost immediately assumed that he was a different person.
I think it still kinda make sense even from a storytelling standpoint. Sure we can tell them apart but as far as the people in the Sonic universe know there isn't any other anthropomorphic hedgehog capable moving at insanely fast speeds. Who's to say Sonic didn't change his appearance just to cover up his identity?
Could very well be the answer to why they mistake shadow for sonic and would makes sense why so many people in the likes of SA2 and Sonic X are shocked by the discovery of shadow
Not to mention that Shadow most likely did all his crimes at night, and Shadow was moving so fast that no normal human could get a good look at him, kind of like Superman flying, running, and jumping so fast that no one even gets a chance to relize that he's Clark Kent (among many other reasons).
I always thought of it like this. How my parents called every system a Nintendo Well every person in that universe that sees a humanoid Hedgehog they call him Sonic lol
It makes a little more sense in Sonic X since all footage of shadow is obscure and in the dark, so they just see a figure that somewhat resembles Sonic in shape.
The design is sick af The chest part is abit weird because well he isn't really muscular but his chest is. It's like seeing a frog have muscular fore arms with tiny legs.
It's funny, In Sonic Prime, Nine STILL thinks Shadow is an alternate version of Sonic even after seeing multiple doubles of himself and other characters that look way closer in resemblance. It's also a little less clear what Shadows background is, he's just kinda like a loner friend who is trying to fix the world
I always just acknowledged the script was finished before Shadow was, since not only does Eggman, Amy and the entire world label Shadow as exactly like Sonic, but Sonic HIMSELF in the Japanese Dialogue states he looks exactly like him (For reference, he says そっくいな, a term that translates to "Looks EXACTLY alike" meaning Sonic isn't just saying that Shadow looks similar to him, he looks EXACTLY like him.
Even if he looks exactly like him, Sonic and Shadow have no reason to be confused. Okay for people like journalists, but not by GUN who knew who Shadow was and knew that he escaped.
Plus it’s implied since the Ark Core resembles Angel Island that he may have seen the mural of Super Sonic fighting Eggman from Hidden Palace Zone and based Shadow off of that, hence the resemblance.
So you’re telling me that GUN who knows exactly who Shadow is since they locked him up for 50 years and captured him on the ARK confused Shadow and a blue hedgehog who didn’t do anything ? Plus his friends ?
The only one who ever really treated shadow warmly was Maria. Shadow was an instrument to Gerald most of the time he knew him at first he was an instrument of revenge until Gerald has a change of heart and made shadow an instrument of hope.
Amy is an exception to this, I believe. I mean, she hugged Shadow, Silver and even Sonic in his Werehog form as if she thought the first hedgehog she sees was Sonic
I always thought it was people saw silhouettes, and all the electronics were in black and white, so the only hedgehog known was Sonic. So with Shadow always being in in darkness, and the only hedgehog being Sonic that everyone knows, it makes sense... Except for Amy, who sees Sonic in everything and only after a huge blunder realizes the mistake. They even had this explained in the Sonic TV, with every shot happen with Shadow obscured.
I think the scene where Amy mistakes Shadow for Sonic should have been in the night. It would have made more sense. But they decided to make her colorblind I guess.
@@hackerman203actually, since mephiles is in shadows image, and since shadow is supposed to be near identical to sonic, shouldn’t silver say mephiles looks like the iblis trigger?
Have you ever looked at parked black car at night, but then find out it was blue when you walked by it? Blue looks like black at night, and they were looking for a fast hedgehog. Shadow's first day stage was also White Jungle iirc, so it's no wonder the characters who saw him before the island raid, aside from Rouge, confused him for Sonic. As for Amy, she probably just saw a blur and instantly assumed it was Sonic. Prior to that point, only Knux and Metal Sonic were really that fast on the ground, and Knux has an entirely different quill style whereas Shadows is similar
So you’re telling me that in full day, Amy who knows the colour of Sonic will mistake him ? GUN knew who Shadow was before that, and they pursue Sonic in full day in the city.
@@basilou4909 he was broken out of the base presumably at night, and most of the G.U.N. members didn't know what was actually in the capsul. They just saw a speedy hedgehog with a similar body plan to Sonic and filled in the gaps. Amy acts before she thinks, it's basically one of her biggest personality traits... or was, before they insisted on completely upending and revising her character
@@ashemabahumat4173 so even though GUN didn’t know who Shadow is (which is false), you’re saying that GUN tracked in the same night two targets and not understanding that it’s weird to have a same aim at two different places in the city ? What you’re saying is a theory and it’s not explained in the game. It’s just bad written
@@basilou4909 the foot soldiers who attacked Sonic didn't know there were 2 hedgehogs, the comms literally just called out a fast hedgehog stealing an emerald. It was chasing 2 leads at once that ended up at the same spot, so ofc they bagged the one that was right in front of them. And you know how fast Sonic is, he could easily cover that much ground when unmotivated. And again, the gun soldiers didnt know about Shadow. He was a top secret weapon, remember? The leaders like the Commander did, relation to the Robotnik's/Kintobor's aside. But the rank and file didn't. And even then, they were shown on screen- across the games, shows, and probably comics too- to have only been given the description of "a Black Hedgehog". And, like mentioned above, Blue and Black are visually highly similar colors in poor lighting. There would've been confusion even during the day due to variance of interpretation
@@ashemabahumat4173 I don’t care if comics, anime or other media’s have a different interpretation of the game. It’s just not functioning in SA2, because all of what you wrote is not explained in the game. We have no leaders of GUN showing in this game so we could also say that everyone in GUN knew who Shadow was even though it was a secret weapon. GUN lead an assault on ARK 50 years ago for stopping Gerald, not for fun, they know what he did and created, Shadow was. Not talking about the leader of GUN in Shadow the Hedgehog who was ON the ARK during the assault so he knew who Shadow was. This error in the scenario is so big that fans find explanations to it but it’s just not working.
I like of how they did it in X, or where shadow is literally in the shadows, so you can only make out the outline of the figure, which is similar to that of sonic. Even with Sonic X aside, i think another reason why people kept confusing Shadow with Sonic because his creation was more or less revolved around the Mural on Angel Island with Super Sonic, so he really is indeed the faker
G.U.N saw a hedgehog with super speed in the middle of the night with most people in G.U.N not even knowing about project Shadow except for some of the higher ups who wanted to keep Shadow top secret, and at the time Shadow and Super Sonic had the same shape of quills, so I'll give G.U.N a pass there. The problem with Amy is, while it'd make more sense if we had Terious for that scene, Eggman was right there with inside a battle mech. I like Amy, but how did she not notice Eggman? Honestly how has Eggman not given her PTSD after he kidnapped her several times and held a gun to her head? Also with how Silver's Quills are there's no justification I can give Amy for thinking he's Sonic unless she's just legally blind.
im pretty sure the humans mistake sonic for shadow is because they barley know sonic and have only seen him in sa1 wich had super sonic, so maybe they think shadow is just another form
Once saw a theory saying G.U.N. Knew the difference but they didn’t want to admit that they let a potentially dangerous escape with Eggman so they just pinned the blame on Sonic to keep everyone distracted while they tried to get Shadow back.
See this makes the most sense, and I wish they would've explored this idea more, but I guess the idea of the government being "too corrupt" was a bit further than they wanted to go, so they backpedaled, making it feel like it's kinda both but also neither
In my head cannon, some high ranking officers in GUN’s echelon is trying to cover up Shadow’s identity to cover up the fact that they ordered the execution of all the innocent people on the ARK.
G.U.N. was 100% trying to cover up, and used the fact that Sonic is a hedgehog of about the same height and build to their advantage. The perfect scapegoat. That said, Shadow's design was likely finalized after the Story was written, resulting in there being less resemblance than perhaps initially intended.
This happened in Sonic X as well where he was confused for Sonic at first until further introduced in the few episodes. So Sonic X most likely got the idea from this. Also I think it's because they share some similarities and nobody gives a crap about colors
Yeah but Sonic X is not SA2. SA2 will keep the same mistakes and it’s not some anime, comics or anything that will change that this game has a really fucked up story
Precisely the other day i wanted to buy a shadow figure, but i had to ask in the shop first because It was locked in a showcase with other figures, when the worker reach the Showcase she asked "so do you want black Sonic?", and i could not believe It 😂😂
In hindsight, it makes a lot of sense. Project Shadow, the ultimate lifeform's change into a hedgehog was based on the Hidden Palace murals, depicting a prophecy that was based on Sonic. It stands to reason he would have looked so much more similar to Sonic, and almost makes me wonder how late in development Terios's design got to.
Terios coming back as preorder skin for sxs generations makes me so happy lmao ive always loved concept art etc so nods to it in any form are great and with the adventure games being my fave games of all time makes me even happier
I think it does make sense. EVERYONE knows that Sonic is a super fast hedgehog who has turned super before. He fully changed, different eye colours, different quills colour and shape. It wouldn't be too hard for people to see Shadow, a super fast hedgehog whose quills are the same shape as super sonics quills and assume that it was another sonic transformation. I mean, it makes sense when looked at in that context. It even makes sense for Amy when thought of this way. He's been running from G.U.N, and she was soecifically looking for him on prison island. For all she knew, he had found some kind of different transformation during that time where she didnt see him.
I guess in universe they look identical. But since it’s a children’s game, the bright colors made them stand out to us to make it easier to tell them apart
Fun fact: G.U.N. is called that because in Japanese, _-gun_ refers to military, like _shogun._ The problem is it's pronounced like the English word _goon,_ so localizers had to choose between a brainless pun or little bunny foo foo.
If we get a remaster of this game and Sonic Heroes, Terios could be the villain of SA2, but after he's recovered and given medical attention by Robotnik, THAT is when he could take on his more familiar red and black coloration, and instead of finding out he's a robot or something in SH, Shadow regains his memories of being Terios.
It's actually because Sonic used to wear a costume that looked exactly like Shadow (as seen in Sonic Superstars) so when people saw Shadow, they were like "Sonic must be wearing that costume again."
Your mom doesn’t live in a world where there are creatures like big hedgehog or echidnas. Your mom is not part of GUN who know who Shadow is and know that he escaped from his prison
Late to this, but it’s implied that part of it is also that Shadow was literally *based on* a mural of Super Sonic Would explain his quills going upward
i just simply think it's because the public have seen sonic transform against perfect chaos (people cheer him on when he transforms in SA1), and since they don't know what or who shadow is, they guessed it's one of his forms
Honestly I think you could argue that Shadow and Super Sonic share the same model. The last time Sonic was seen publicly he was in his Super Form. Simpler version is of course he's a hedgehog they make mistakes. I can't tell you how many times I have been mistaken for someone else. It's always been the same guy, I believe his name is Zach. Also I was once mistaken for someone who looked nothing like me and only shared the same first name. The vice principal of my school stupidly thought I was this other person who was supposed to be suspended and he took me into the office and was intending to have me arrested for Trespassing until he realized he was wrong. _That was fun_
Tbh prototype shadow would be cool to reuse in a future game, like he was project shadow's prototype that was said to be scrapped but somehow survived. Like a shadow 0.5 to the released shadow 1.0 .
The only time Sonic legit looked like Shadow to the point of being confused with him was when he became Dark Sonic by absorbing the negative energy from the fake emeralds.
I once heard an iceberg theory that flipped up my mind : basically everyone in arc knew that sonic wasn't shadow but they kept it secret bc I forgot why but secret government shit
It’s probably also because I guess there isn’t many anthropomorphic hedgehogs that exist. Sonic and Amy are the only ones, so seeing Shadow( who was man made ) and Silver( who came from the future ) kind of threw people off
I used to think this was really silly and just something required for the plot to happen Until i read someone's comment saying that while they were younger playing SA2 their mom saw some bits and thought Sonic turned evil, sometimes people don't think as much as we assume
Not gonna lie it would be cool if we got Terios as the main villain in a Shadow The Hedgehog 2 game as a prototype to the Ultimate Lifeform project similar to the Bio-Lizard.
I mean, on another note it's not like the world knew about another hedgehog outsude of Sonic and Amy, except for the people that knew about both Sonic and Shadow. So, anyone could've just Shadow as Sonic, not because they think he looks like Sonic, but because Sonic is the only other male hedgehog. It wouldn't be odd to think Shadow was just Sonic was a makeover or new style, than to think there's another male hedgehog entirely. Hell, Amy has seen and been in love with Sonic since she was a kid, but probably just takes Shadow as Sonic because it's not like there's been another male hedgehog for her to come across Sonic she's seen Sonic. In the game's canon of course. Sonic is the ONLY male hedgehog the world knows about until they finally see both Shadow and Sonic in the same room.
No. I never wondered why. It was obvious. Especially because I was there for SA2's debut. In my experience, even the fans and ESPECIALLY casuals were calling him "Evil Sonic" here and there. And it was clear that Shadow looks like Sonic. Down to it being clear Shadow and Sonic are created from the same base model. Even Sonic's soaps shoes and Shadow's air shoes are the same shape. In their super forms they are clearly the the same model with small differences outside of texture. Everyone who mistakes Shadow for Sonic does so for only a split second and it's clearly because no one looks anything like Sonic until they meet Shadow. Consider that Silver looks drastically different from Sonic compared to Shadow. ALSO consider the fact that Shadow looks like a black Super Sonic. Saying Shadow doesn't look like Sonic because of color is invalid. Anyone else in the world getting a clear look at Shadow and confusing him for Sonic clearly go with this and also possibly have just never seen Sonic up close or for very long. It's like seeing Spider-Man with the black suit and still assuming it's the same person (which it was) rather than just being another Spider-Man (like Miles Morales). Because when there's only one, you clearly think anything like it must be the same person. The concept art is Shadow's previous design. And Terios is Shadow's previous name. But that name and that design are not exclusive to each other. The name Terios applies to Shadow's redesign as well, and the name Shadow can still apply to the previous design. (Which I think looks more like Sonic in some ways but LESS like Sonic in others. His model is very different and he wears a scarf and has a scar... Not sure why anyone would mistake that for Sonic more than Shadow aside from color. Which we already established isn't really a valid point anymore.) ALSO, it was Terios the Tenrec. (Which, btw, Shadow's final design somewhat resembles as well, meaning he still could have been a tenrec but they chose to go with hedgehog.)
