why does Nintendo do this? 

Ok bro

you should pin my comment the one where i say it tastes good

"Tasting" 💀💀💀 Did you mean "testing"?

​@@Ashfon124 he meant your mom

Wait until Tinker Man Mick discovers 256gb micro SD cards

I think there are 1.5TB micro SD cards now

Hay tamaños más grandes que los "TB".

From 4 MB cards in the late 90s to a tiny micro SD card that can fit 1 TB, times sure have changed

4TB SD cards already coming soon

@@MarauderVN Not even 2TB exist yet. Even though the Switch will apparently be able to handle them once they do.

Sd card

@smort9907 wrong.

@@ThatOneSkywalkerI think he was saying it’s like having a micro sd

@GengarHexadecimal 👍

Ya, I don't get why it's so hard to understand, Nintendo can't make a different cartridge for every variant of storage.... Also they have to account for the need of each studio, some games are 100MB, others are 32+ GB so ofc the size of the chips will vary as more storage is needed

2240 M.2 2TB SSD would destroy his sense of reality

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there are different capacity game cartridges the small one is 8GB, and the full sized one is either 32 or 64GB

also allows developers to fit a bigger chip for more storage if they have a particularly big game.

​@@ethan44866storage isnt an problem, most moder micro ssd and sad cards can have up to 1 terabyte of space on them. The size of the chip dosent realy change the storageapace it has

@@gamingmitnoahd4036 it depends on a lot of variables. But... having a larger size allows for easier second sourcing of components.

the did the same thing with the nes and i think the gameboy

The larger one was a cheaper game. Meaning less room for profit, so instead of using smaller and more expensive storage mediums, they used pcb and a chip. AAA games have volume and sell for more, so they use more reliable and smaller chips.

Nintendo takes the next step in preventing people from eating their games; saliva-activated taser defense

@@BierBart12that is a lie why would you lie to people about that

@@adolfbitlergo lick a cart and come back here

This guy isn’t talking about Nintendo cartridges at this point 😂

I bet he never opened an SD card or a 2.5" SSD either. Same thing there, the smaller ones usually contain more air than anything else.

clearly showing its not actually "nintendo" doing it but the game makers and such. Nintendo could care less how much space is used or unused as long as its producing money.

​@crisnmaryfam7344 He proved Nintendo does use small PCB and it is Nintendo that decided that. What am I missing here? He made a video that proved a point. If anything he got it more on point when he said "Nintendo does this".

And why should they change the cartridge? It would piss people off, if they had to buy adapters because the cartridge is to small and won't fit in the slot.

@@crisnmaryfam7344*couldn't care less?

There's a reason they take up only half the cartridge, so they have air to cool down, and not overheat.

@@beauwalker9820pretty sure it was so they wouldn’t look like “video games” due to the negative stigma at the time

@@Tbug20 This is the correct answer. The whole point was it was supposed to feel like putting a video cassette in a VCR. Plus a handful of NES games actually did fill the whole cartridge and didn't have overheating issues... and the whole Famicom games being way smaller and not having such issues.

@@beauwalker9820 What if I told you NES cartridges produce next to no heat.

@@adamsfusion yeah look at a famicom cart, they're not worried about heat dissipation.

Indeed! Anyone who has ever set down a loose MicroSD on even a slightly cluttered desk can attest to that!

@@KertaDrake I tried to (spring-loaded) eject a 128Gb micro-SD card from my new dashcam, without realising how powerful the spring behind it was. It's still somewhere in my car - via con dios SD card...

Not to mention the smallest chip needs the same sized case as the largest so they ALL fit into the console and plug in correctly

@@KertaDrake good luck with it falling in a carpet

Also: not being easily swallowable by children

i think they first should allow to have multiple cartidges inside your console. Changing cartdiges on the switch is a pain specially if you have it docked. They should allow you to have 3 or 4 cartidges inside and just select the game you like

They're not gonna make a console with multiple cartridge slots 😂😂😂 at least no more than two like the DS 😂😂

@@josendI’ve saw some adapter that can hold up about 8 but has 4 slots for switching the games and 4 for storing cartridges. Can’t remember what it’s called.

I agree I miss them putting some good effort into the cartridges and like you said basically making them pieces of art, it felt special opening them up when I was younger.. I never wanted to get rid of the boxes but was told to to save space etc.. oh how I regret throwing some boxes away… I wonder if kids now days have that same excitement tho if they open a physical game… or if they have that excitement when they download a new iPad game or something lol I have no idea. I hate to see an all digital future and last time I was at Walmart it was apparent it’s sooner then later… sad to see cause I’ll stop buying games almost altogether lol… got a pc like 1-2yrs ago and bought like 2 games on it that’s it.. I’m rambling lol but I’m weird about shit if the game is already all digital and I get into it and like it a lot I’ll want to support it if it’s free to play etc.. but I also don’t like buying a game and not being able to play it offline 😂 will talk me outta buying a game if there’s no offline mode.

​@@Cuhryzwrmzthat 8 slot cartridge mag thing sounds sick. I'm gonna have to look now

NES cartridges were also mostly empty space, with the bank of chips and the connector taking 1/3rd or less of the space. The standard size allows for larger boards when needed (save functions or extra hardware included; although for the NES this was not really used AFAIK), and so that kids would have an easy time handling them.

​@@deejay4am yes, there was a small handful of times that extra hardware was included in the NES cartridge. Better to have the space and not need it, than to need the space and not have it.

Man, I remember someone was hiding their stash in old cartridges, lol.

​@@darkvulpes4826yo, could you pass me Punch Out

​@@darkvulpes4826lol, smart 😮

захист від піратства.оіцензія.і т.д.

@@playgames9082 Uh idk what you saying

@@playgames9082 no i mean he litrealy destroyed the catrege

@@Oscorpior99 Wtf you can put it back in dmbss

Why not? its not like he destroyed the actual hardware, just open the case (a drops of glue, and its done). And its his cartridge, so I dont care lolol

like him or not he spittin' out facts!

IT CAN GET EVEN SMALLER?!

​@@coolguyx14there are micro SD cards that can fit 1 tera byte worth of data at is almost 1000 gbs and it's about the side of a pinky nail

Future expansion is the part that not a lot of the other comments mentioned, and that's definitely a big part. Or rather, Nintendo had made the plastic shell to this size to accommodate all the different capacity chips they intended for Switch, and if a company didn't need the full 16GB cart (or 32GB, as those were introduced only later in the Switch lifecycle), they didn't need to pay extra for a bunch of unused space on the cart, just to fill the physical space inside the plastic shell. Bunch of PlayStation games could also fit on much smaller discs if such alternative Blu-ray sizes existed (physically), and if that was as easy and also as cost effective to do as smaller capacity carts, they would do that as well. It's just that discs are ultra cheap to print, so there's no point in fiddling with their physical size in order to optimize costs (at best you can pick between dual, triple and quad layer Blu-ray discs, which otherwise look the same but have different capacities). With carts there's a noteworthy production cost saving if you can opt for a smaller capacity cart, even if the plastic shell is still the same. Cost optimization, while also trying to keep things more uniform in design.

​@@shmish5818 Aren't the Switch Game Cards, like, serial? I'd expect any Flash memory chip in 2024 to be serial. If so, and with probably a reduced bandwidth to optimize costs (*because honestly, game cartridges don't need a lot of bandwidth), I doubt they'd throw more hardware to expand the Switch's capabilities in the same way as they did with the SNES, whose cartridges had a parallel bus.

Guess you're young. I remember when 256mb was the size of a filing cabinet and cost a few grand lol

ok boomer @@bobbybologna3029

​@@bobbybologna3029 back then technology was still in the early stages but now it's evolving and it's both a good thing and a bad thing

​@@bobbybologna3029are you larping as an old person? That's incredibly cringe tbh

The op of the video sounds old, so he probably remembers that they need a taco looking shapped cartridge to fit Super Mario 64. Its understandable to be shocked at the technological progress.

Yeah imagine if they made half size carts for the ones that didn't require the space 😂 you'd have to jam a stick in your switch to pop it out

@@TrillMurray I just meant that having the option for a dimensionally larger chip instead of only doing the small one to save on internal component space was the better idea.

@@silversonic1 I agree. I'm saying if the cartridge size wasn't standardized, the bigger carts would either stick out the top of a switch like a GB color cartridge in a gba or the smaller carts would be recessed into the switch and hard to remove

@@TrillMurray I get ya now. Sorry. It's late here and my brain's ready for bed.

​@@TrillMurray This is also the reason why NES cartridges are all the same size while Famicom ones are not. The NES frontloader requires the carts to be a uniform size in order for the latching mechanism to work properly. The Famicom was an ordinary top-loading console, so they could make larger games have longer carts (and a few games in fact did).

Ikr, 2 terabyte sd cards exist, and the switch carts only have like 8 gb, though there usually isn't all that much of a need to have any more than that cause switch games are tiny and nintendo needs to make the physical copies dirt cheap to make sure they don't cost any more than digital

@@muddle3017 well, physical copies do cost more as you have to share the profits with the supply chain. With a digital copy, Nintendo is the supply chain.

They're very cheap too. A 128GB microsd is about $20 USD for a reputable brand.

​@@JrIcifynot 12 years ago though.

I remember times when I had to split data on several floppies, amazing progress indeed.

Sounds like a stoner storyv

​@@jimmyjones6086A stoner engineer moment?

About to say the same thing

I too was about to say the same thing.

Micro SD cards that size can be a terabyte large. So Im certain the size difference got nothing to do with the file size here.

Naw one is chinamade fake shit

@@TheDude50447 Probably because it's cheaper

Why

It taste good

​@@Jacob.bottner.productionsits supposed to be super bitter

Please don't tempt me.. Next video:

I herd it was awful so ofc like any human would I tried it. DO NOT lmao

Not surprising, these are small enough that the limiting factor is wanting kids to be able to physically put the carts into the system.

Let me try. .. brb

with or without the shell?

@@Zreknarfwith the shell

oh wait I remember now. they're coated with bitterant o prevent kids from putting them in their mouth

Proof?

Back in those days the extra space was also there so game makers could fit extra components. For example, on the NES, one of the most common extras was a RAM chip + a coin cell battery to implement saves Or on the Game Boy line of consoles, some games had rumble motors or accelerometers for motion controls Or probably the most esoteric was the Glucoboy, which had a glucose meter and LCD and could be used on its own, but when paired with a GBA it had games you could unlock by keeping your glucose levels in check, to encourage diabetics to get enough sugar

​@@lunlunnnnn I would also count the internal clocks in some pokemon games

I remember when I was like 6, I got my first NES game for my birthday. I knew what Nintendo was but wasn’t super familiar with the console/cartridges yet… but so I unwrapped the present. Peeled the cellophane off the box. Opened the cardboard box. The cartridge itself was in one of those black sleeves, so I slipped it out. At this point I had the NES cartridge in my hand, but did I know when to stop? Nope! I unscrewed the back of the cart, broke it open, then pulled out the green hardware/ circuit card / PBD (whatever it’s called), and tried to jam that into the console slot. Was super confused when no videogame appeared on the tv screen haha

@@AwesometownUSA Sounds like somebody was already on a path of an engineer at a very young age. =) And if you might need the word again.... It's PCB (printed circuit board)

Good point. The cart was likely designed to fit the off-the-shelf components but large production runs can save cost by going smaller.

No, It's a standarized cartrige size for the nintendo switch game cart slot, the chip size is irrelevant at that point, it just has to fit inside the cartrige

@@CarlosSantos-kh4ru You really missed their point. Nintendo designed the slot and the cart to be that size because it allowed the use of easily, and cheap, off the shelf components. Nintendo's in house games probably use smaller internals because Nintendo felt it was worth the extra cost in manufacturing to have the nicer nand directly on the contacts. A small developer might not be okay with that extra cost, so they still have the option for a more "basic" carriage. Nintendo could have designed the Cart and slot to be anything, they could have made it similar to a micro sd card, Like the Ps Vita memory slot. But too small is more expensive, especially if its not a standardized port. and to large is not ideal for a small device. Its a compromised size, big enough that you can fit cheaper components, but not so big its unwieldy, or takes up to much room in the device itself.

As an Australian, it's also a surprise to hear this accent sometimes

I was thinking that too. The cartridges are sold in sizes of like 4, 8, 16, 24 gb I think. My numbers may be off but Nintendo will try to buy the cheapest cartridge they can for the given game. (If a game is 9 gb they will buy the 8 gb cartridge and make you download 1gb of a game. This is what happened with pokemon gen 4 remakes.)

​​@@neosharkey7401 Btw, Switch cartidges tend to have 8, 32 or 64 gb of space Edit: What? Damm I thought that what I needed to download in the gen 4 remakes were updates, what a shitty company. Still, the base game without internet is completely into the original cartridge, I guess you also download the replacement of the compi park

Ironically the smaller chips are more likely to be soldered onto a larger board. The 32GB games are the ones that are only a single chip

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C Clarke

Is just a bunch of transistors that create a maze for current flow, simple but can generate complex results. Nowadays you create a code and convert it into a physical schematic that can be printed into a chip. I like it more than coding, I hope to stop being a programmer and become an electronic engineer. More logical, less stressful.

No Nintendo used Mini Disc, that's a technology from Sony. GCN, Wii and Wii U used custom optical discs. But yeah, never HDDs and no optical in their mobile consoles.

its a custom nintendo byte serial protocol

@@crazydogowner yeah but the protocol and interface is entirely different. What were you expecting to find inside the cart? lol

@@crazydogowner i mean if you want to say that a sata ssd is the same as an sd card yeah that analogy works to a point.

@@DorperSystems Im failing to see where the other person mentioned anything about a sata ssd, all he stated was that it is a modified read only micro sd card (which it is)

​@@marquistucker5464 its not an sd card. its like saying that a compact flash card is a bigger sd card.

I've put a 2 TB one in my PC 4 years ago (2019) and I only recently passed the 50% usage mark. Didn't even care to clean up things I no longer need.

@@gragogflying-anvil3605 for games and most software that's probably fine but the amount of stored video material from my phone and vods is creating a giant data pile

They've already sent the ninjas

​​@@skycloud4802 We Already Got 'em

BECAUSE THE MOST BETTER THINGS COME IN SMALL SIZES ....LOL

Well if you havent heard of MicroSD.

@@JailerGamer MicroSD and physical switch games use the same type of data storage

That's not how it works. Most sizes of Game Card come on both kinds of Game Card, either board mounted or custom chip. Large production run, high storage production runs, like Tears of the Kingdom, use custom chips to save money on the PCB.

Tears of the Kingdom uses a 32GB chip and it's the chip style rather than the PCB style.

​@@JailerGamerdenser storage is more expensive

Is this even English?

@@darrylkinslow3357 I'm not an English speaker, but I understand.

@@xuryous You understand "you can intall the game with out net. so yeah that mario is on the cartridge"? Really? Then please, tell the world exactly what it means, because I do speak English and it does not make any sense.

@@darrylkinslow3357 He's pointing out how you can play the game without having to install or download about 200% more the size of the contents in the cartridge as you do with ps5 and xbox, don't be pedantic dude. the message is clear even if the grammar is not correct.

@@midleno8364 None of what he said, says any of that. You are just assuming things. If you read your comment, you're the one being pedantic. No, the message is not clear.

TIMMY NOOOO

Nintendo's stelar technology: a micro SD.

@@iNkenbiLLyet sony and microsoft still rely on download discs. fat L.

@@joogled1839 you push to play, I double-click to play, we are not the same.

​@joogled1839 or we just don't use disks at all....

@@Blandscorpion76 ah yes. the long lost physical media of not discs nor carts. now tell me, where did you think you were going with this?

Keep them in their original package? Or too much space taken up by those?

That's my trade! I suspect that physical games are already an endangered species. Many (most) are just "proof of purchase" that just give the device permission to download from the store.

we be in cyberpunk by now

Bobs your auntie

Xbox and PlayStation solved that with discs

​@Shufflingisahabit Xbox will solve it by go digital download in very near future

You're underestimating toddlers 😂

@@Shufflingisahabitdiscs that only have a small bit of data on them and make you download the full game online so you can actually play it.

That would be very interesting if it is possible,😮 Is this already done with older consoles like the Nintendo DS Wii or 3DS?

​@@melley420I don't think it's been done like that, at least not on the Switch. On the Wii/U you could probably just put the disc in a standard DVD drive though. But for the Switch, you can dump the cartridges to an SD card using homebrew. Every Switch cart comes in a format called XCI. It has two main sections, one containing non-sensitive, unencrypted data (a copy of the minimum required Switch OS for offline updates and title and icon of the game). There's also an encrypted section, which contains the executables (ExeFS) and assets (RomFS) The ExeFS has at least a file called main (the main executable) and main.npdm (metadata such as what permissions it has). It can also contain dynamic libraries. All executables are in a format called NSO, which is similar but not compatible with ELF (mainly used on non-macOS Unixes) The RomFS doesn't have to be in a specific structure, as only the game has to read it. But for games released on other platforms, it's usually the same or at least similar

​​@@melley420 Yes, at least there's a way to connect it to a computer and copy the files (to get the rom), which I guess some people then used to make a Switch emulator Usually for older consoles (any that uses cartridges at least), you take away the cartridge reader and connect it to your computer. For 3DS, you can just install some programs that can copy the files of the cartridge inserted and paste it into the sd card you putted For discs consoles its always been much easier. You just put the disc in a computer, get some programs to bypass the disc's security and its done. That's why Nintendo often decides to use cartridges even if discs are superior, because they want to avoid piracy (and to be fair they have been able to accomplish that pretty well. The methods I mentioned above werent always around or as easy to as today) Edit: Also its much easier to make long lasting pirated disc of quality close to the original that cartridges. Cartridges are more complicated, always need save data storage and a battery (which is why Switch cartridges in reality are just microSD cards), and if any element is cheap, you will have a game that doesn't run properly, or can't save data. Even official Pokemon games for the Gameboy Colot have the problem of the battery lasting barely a decade because they get drained by the internal clock, and when that battery runs out, all saved data is deleted and it won't save until it is replaced

​@@lunlunnnnnWiiU used non-standard BluRays. The drive also needs to spin in the other directions as regular drives. Contents are encrypted (IIRC using a common key for all discs). Not sure about the filesystem, probably proprietary as well. Way easier to simply dump using HomeBrew.

or newer micro sd card

Completely different protocol. but yes, it's solid storage. it's the same tech that's been used since the nintendo 64 lol it's not new conceptually

​@@ThePacmandevil*since the DS, the N64 was still using ROM cartriges

@@FunnyParadox I get that you're a furry and as such brain damaged, but the DS isn't the first to use a cart, or solid state storage. NES did it first. If you're talking portable, then the gameboy did.

@@FunnyParadox no, tech is the same as N64 cartridge with different protocol. solid state storage is very ancient thing at this point, and by this i mean it is not new at all.

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