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Why does no one use the R2 Method for 3BLD? 🤔 (M2 for corners) 

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So the guy that made the M2 method also made an R2 method and since M2 is fast, surely R2 must be fast too right? Well, I decided to figure out if that was the case or not 🔍
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@dhrutube
@dhrutube 3 года назад
I use petrus as my main method, so M2/R2 is definitely something I should use.
@rajatgarg3856
@rajatgarg3856 3 года назад
Anyone after watching samay's stream,man you are a great guy please come on samay's stream more often
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 3 года назад
Yo
@abhijeetghodgaonkar
@abhijeetghodgaonkar 3 года назад
I am cuber from India, and I have met Jack Cai once. I have held Asian record as well.
@FakeAccount-xy6fu
@FakeAccount-xy6fu Год назад
No one asked
@Leoleonpd
@Leoleonpd Год назад
What he didn't mention is that out of those special algs for R2, two of them are the three cycle corner PLL, and at least two are just the corner twisting algorithm that people learn in the beginner method. Personally, I turned the R2 method into the U2 method and I use it with M2. It is very satisfying to use compared with Pochman.
@mookiemu
@mookiemu Год назад
If you treat every M2 and R2 move as half a full commutator, then you can do a setup before doing M2 or R2 twice and and turn bad cases into good cases. And then you undo the setup. For instance with M2, if you are solving a pair such as DF>UL>BD, you can do a B turn and then solve the pair as if you were solving DF>UL> BR and cut out a bunch of steps. Furthermore if you do BU setup, then you can do solve DF>UL>BD as if it is DF>UB>BR and then undo with U'B' and cut out even more moves. This idea is very flexible and intuitive. Now if you continue to think about two M2 turns as if they are one commutator, then you don't have to do an M2 every time. You can do M or M' and BD and FU become advantageous cases. For instance if you need to do DF>LF>FU, you can use M instead of M2 and UL'U' M' ULU' M and you have solved what would be a lot of moves, in just 8 moves and you're on your way to learning commutators. DF>LU>FU would be F'LF M' F'L'F M. By the same token, BD can become an advantageous case too. For instance DF>BD>UL can be solved using M B'L'B M' B'LB. And you can create all kinds of advantageous cases just using setups. And it's very intuitive. And just think about how many cases can be changed to M'U2MU2 by a simple setup. The same can be done with R2. If you think of R2 twice instead of single R2, you can do setups to take bad cases and make them good. For instance with a simple U' turn, DFR>UFR>UBR becomes DFR>UBR>UBL and that cuts out a lot of moves. DFR>BDR>UFR a very problematic situation becomes a very simple DFR>BDL>UBR with a simple setup of B'U' that you of course undo. You can also do R and R' moves instead of R2 to turn bad cases into good ones. For instance DFR>FRU>FLU is a very bad case. But if you do R and R' instead of R2, you can get and advantageous case with R ULU' R' UL'U'. Anyway I just scratched the surface. The possibilities are endless if you think of each M2R2 move and setup as if they were pairs or half of a commutator.
@DillPicklePatrick
@DillPicklePatrick Год назад
Glad someone mentioned this, as with very simple comm understanding you can optimize these methods a shit ton!
@exelo9365
@exelo9365 Год назад
One handed push up while OH blind solving 🔥
@Jinxed192
@Jinxed192 3 года назад
Just got to know about you through samay. And u are AWESOME!!
@JackCaiCubing
@JackCaiCubing 3 года назад
@charlieharrison
@charlieharrison 3 года назад
For the case with the y rotation, D' R' U2 R' D R U2 R' D' R2 D R2' is an alternative
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 3 года назад
yeah this R2 case sucks, U R2 U' S U S2 R2 U S U2.
@MACubing
@MACubing 3 года назад
Yessssss......🔥
@RocketCuber
@RocketCuber 3 года назад
Hello I am your supricer
@rebeccaMal
@rebeccaMal Год назад
Can just do r2 and when you get special case do l2
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 3 года назад
I have used R2 method from 2014-2018, gradually I moved from 2-step DFR 3-cycle, to just DFR 3-style. But yeah I switched to UFR, when the hardware got better, f' L S R2 S L' S' R2 F.
@aarushpriyankaj3105
@aarushpriyankaj3105 3 года назад
Why do you write an alg at the end of your comments??
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 3 года назад
@@aarushpriyankaj3105 its a 5-cycle from the UF buffer, I write it as it is the alg that I am revising while writing the comment, U R2 U' S U S2 R2 U S U2.
@aarushpriyankaj3105
@aarushpriyankaj3105 3 года назад
@@5Algsolve man you are so dedicated for 5-style. I hope to see it becoming a viable 3bld method due to your efforts
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 2 года назад
@@aarushpriyankaj3105 Yeah I hope R2 gets recognized more in cubing alg history. Also 5-style in the alg future.
@user-cc6me7pf7p
@user-cc6me7pf7p 3 года назад
cuz it is hard to do than op and its buffer is on the bottom face
@ankitsanghi07
@ankitsanghi07 3 года назад
Sir, what about U2, can it be an alternate for R2?
@AsbiaRojas
@AsbiaRojas 3 года назад
pog
@OLDISGOLDKKAMMMAL
@OLDISGOLDKKAMMMAL 3 года назад
OP 😂😂
@JackCaiCubing
@JackCaiCubing 3 года назад
it would be better for sure but you'd still have to use special algs for more than half the cases 😅
@maxxiong
@maxxiong 3 года назад
At that point you would be better off learning orozco from URF to URB lol
@tyazgagaman671
@tyazgagaman671 3 года назад
Interesting
@pranavraghu
@pranavraghu 3 года назад
Anybody know a reliable place to learn 3 style for 4x4 bld?
@thetientran
@thetientran 3 года назад
Noah cubes, his videos are old but you can still learn from them.
@pranavraghu
@pranavraghu 3 года назад
@@thetientran Alright, il check them out. Thanks!
@thetientran
@thetientran 3 года назад
Yeah no problem, it’s just part 9 and 10 to his 3 style series
@joshuariegel6840
@joshuariegel6840 2 года назад
Is it possible to combine any 2 methods for edges and corners? Meaning, if you want to ease into 3-Style, can you learn just 3-style for corners and do an M2/3-Style method?
@JackCaiCubing
@JackCaiCubing 2 года назад
Yes, that's what I actually recommend doing, you might need to switch parity methods though
@jensrenders4994
@jensrenders4994 8 месяцев назад
You can combine any amount of methods, switching every letterpair.
@cuberdoge22
@cuberdoge22 3 года назад
R2 method is like U2 method for big cubes blindfolded is it.
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 3 года назад
True, but R2 is for corners, whereas U2 is for centers.
@maxxiong
@maxxiong 3 года назад
yeah but U2 is much cleaner
@mommailim9616
@mommailim9616 3 года назад
Yooo lets goooo. Early! Fun fact: somebody said that if you click on the corners of gan cubes it will have more magnetic strength.
@5Algsolve
@5Algsolve 3 года назад
Yo
@sinpi314
@sinpi314 3 года назад
Imagine using a gan cube
@mommailim9616
@mommailim9616 3 года назад
@@sinpi314 Although I think it works on any magnetic cube.
@mommailim9616
@mommailim9616 3 года назад
@@sinpi314 I tried it and it somehow worked. Idk if placebo.
@greeneryeveryday5699
@greeneryeveryday5699 3 года назад
After samay's stream
@JackCaiCubing
@JackCaiCubing 3 года назад
welcome!
@devpatel1140
@devpatel1140 3 года назад
before premiere
@AsbiaRojas
@AsbiaRojas 3 года назад
A
@kanishkumar1185
@kanishkumar1185 3 года назад
Hi
@JackCaiCubing
@JackCaiCubing 3 года назад
hi
@tom.5122
@tom.5122 3 года назад
@@JackCaiCubing top tier conversation
@rodrigoqteixeira
@rodrigoqteixeira 6 месяцев назад
Resume: R2 is bad, use orozco or 3 style for corners
@BalthazarMaignan
@BalthazarMaignan 3 года назад
OUE
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