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Why Don't People Say What They Mean? 

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I explain why (allistic) people prefer to give hints instead of actually saying what they mean, in a way that's hopefully interesting, even if it's not actually that useful. It's time for a casual chat about linguistic pragmatics, specifically implicatures!

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@coaxill4059
@coaxill4059 Год назад
Interesting, I agree with your conclusion I think; that the allistic are typically motivated by group cohesion, and autistic by sharing information. However, what's especially interesting is that these are both forms of consensus. The goal is to get everyone on the same page. If you're not doing that by sharing and addressing the information prima facie, I would argue it's a bad consensus. If we're filtering too much for the sake of comfort, and agreeing on the result, we're all agreeing to be wrong. Doesn't mean you can't be nice about it, but still be honest. This might be why I mostly like to hang out with autistic people.
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds Год назад
Yes! It's about agreeing with everyone, and inadvertently being right most of the time... or being right, and inadvertently agreeing with everyone most of the time. It only really clashes in that sense when everyone agrees to be wrong, which does happen. Then "huh, well, I guess you're *technically* right, but that's a weird thing to say..."
@cartsoel9652
@cartsoel9652 Год назад
I was just feeling very anxious and headed into a downward spiral when i typed "why don't people say what they mean?" into my search browser and here you are! I look at the posting date and you posted yesterday. Cool alignment, its like you made this video just for me. I was looking for practical advice which you did not have but thats ok because I felt immediately better after listening to you speak. I even laughed a few times because what you said was so relatable. We can research all we want but allistic communication just seems beyond us. Oh well. I've been struggling to find friends but really Im looking in the wrong spots. What I really want are AUTISTIC friends. I appreciate allistics but interacting with them can be so confusing and frustrating to the point I feel physical pain. Thank you for posting this video it has offered me real value and comfort.
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds Год назад
Thank you, I’m glad I could help a bit. This is exactly why I named it like that, to help out people wondering that exact same thing, who haven’t yet heard of the terminology to search for (like I also hadn’t until last year). As someone who very likely only really has autistic friends, I can confirm we’re easier to talk to, for each other! (I was also reading a scientific paper about this today, inter-neurotype communication’s difficult, and it’s mutual!) I hope you find some friends who are easier to talk to. 😊
@Kloxbyn
@Kloxbyn Год назад
Excellent topic. I feel like I relate more with the autistic approach to communication than the allistic (at least, based on how you described it). Whenever I do resort to being socially 'pragmatic', I feel like a robot, like I'm spitting out automated responses just to 'keep the peace'.
@fung4310
@fung4310 10 месяцев назад
Wow. So perfectly summed up. Need to send this to all my neuro typical friends.
@ChristaBug
@ChristaBug 4 месяца назад
I REALLY NEEDED THIS! IVE BEEN FEELING SO BAD THAT MY RELATIONSHIPS ARE STRUGGLING DUE TO MISUNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT HOW I COMMUNICATE
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds 4 месяца назад
Oof, sorry. If only people believed us and could actually accommodate speaking directly when speaking to us.
@lonesomerider1196
@lonesomerider1196 17 дней назад
i had to watch this rather interesting video more than just once... simply because i was very distracted by the lava lamp! ;-) thanx & cheers! :-) listening to your music next... *waving*
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds 17 дней назад
It seemed appropriate to add a little visual stim. 😄
@Errzman
@Errzman Год назад
i've always had a hard time with implicatures. i've always called it subtext. I feel I've learned to recognize it sometimes when the mood turns after i've been too honest, but for the most part i've learned to let go of my anxiety around it. I tell people pretty early on that i don't have much patience for all that wishy washy stuff. I feel like there are a lot of people that appreciate that though. People learn to trust that i am speaking without a filter and sometimes that means we can have some deep conversations about stuff. I like that. I can say that i've been incredibly lucky to have some very patient and honest partners that will teach me about some "common" implicatures though. Like how when i would talk at partner about something cool i just learned, and i didn't recognize that she wasn't just listening. She was trying to express disinterest by not engaging with the topic of conversation. meanwhile im thinking "cool! shes letting me talk more because she is interested in what im talking about!". and when she told me that, i was so confused as to why she wouldn't just tell me she wanted to change the subject. it is something that i try to look out for now when i'm trying to be social with people i don't know well yet.
@LoudPaul1
@LoudPaul1 Год назад
Wow, thanks so much for making this video! I often struggle with these same problems in communication. Very thought-provoking, looking forward to your future autism videos!
@WhatsTherapy
@WhatsTherapy Год назад
This is awesome. Literally had never heard of the word "implicature" before. And love that way of describing the "mutually assured destruction" principles at play in certain communication patterns. Also, the point about hierarchical aspects of this helped me make an interesting connection between how I communicate and how I approach authority. One other point I'd add, is that part of the reason allistic folks might not view it as "thinking the worst" of someone when making negative assumptions about what that person means, is that in their way of seeing things they're being helpful by making assumptions and not forcing the person to articulate themselves as they themselves wouldn't want to have to do. I could be wrong, but...whatever. Awesome video :D edit: oh you made the point I made towards the end lol
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds Год назад
Thanks! I'm still trying to work out how to talk to people in authority, but I think I've remembered the word to research: "deference".
@WhatsTherapy
@WhatsTherapy Год назад
@@TransistorSounds I struggle with that one haha I think I'll just keep being confrontational :D
@ninaandsimone3854
@ninaandsimone3854 Год назад
awesome video
@Kloxbyn
@Kloxbyn Год назад
Right? She could do ASMR.
@boursitocard
@boursitocard 4 месяца назад
Thank you
@RickardYxelflod
@RickardYxelflod 16 дней назад
Many times I understand that people are hinting at something, but I can’t always decode what it is. This has led to a lot of frustration both on their part and mine.
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds 16 дней назад
Oof, yeah, same.
@midwinter78
@midwinter78 10 месяцев назад
The first unwritten rule of society is that you don't talk about the unwritten rules of society. The second unwritten rule of society...
@marizuokereke7347
@marizuokereke7347 Год назад
Great stuff! I only speak English (and UK English, at that) so I do wonder how much of this implied communication is cultural. My understanding is that some other languages and cultures are a lot more direct. The Dutch, for example.
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds Год назад
Yes, I gather it's very culture-specific and also context-specific! I hear some of the better foreign-language courses even cover how their linguistic pragmatics differ (which covers a bunch of non-semantic parts, including implicatures -- hints -- body language, eye contact, and tone of voice). So yes, the details can vary a lot. Either way, there's a lot of autistic people in each of these areas either oblivious to these pragmatics or performing them consciously, with varying levels of success. I also hear that a lot of autistic people are immigrants, quite possibly because your lack of understanding of the local unwritten rules is assumed to be a result of you having grown up with a different set of unwritten rules, rather than being oblivious to those too. It seems people are perhaps a bit kinder to immigrants than they are to disabled people in this regard, which... given how a lot of people treat immigrants, is saying something.
@treasurechest2951
@treasurechest2951 7 месяцев назад
They’re not kinder to immigrants. They discriminate against you, or think they’re leftist peace mongerers while still being blissfully ignorant of the immigrant lived experience, and you’re alienated from your native society as well as the new one.
@jonathanrichards4393
@jonathanrichards4393 Год назад
thankyou. really good explanation. look forward to more. very much appreciated :)
@AdrianFacchi
@AdrianFacchi Год назад
Such an insightful video. The flirting example is great because is something I personally struggled with. And I think a lot of men do. This made me think that all men when they are teenager go from playing with legos, football and pokemon to suddenly start having a sex drive or a love interest and the need to talk to girls. And suddenly you struggle with the same question. Why girls don't say what they want? Why do I need to flirt? Etc. I think the difference is what you said, we feel very intense positive and negative emotions and we link them to the context of the situation and the conversation as well. And this basically "socializes" you into speaking in subtext, flirting, etc. The other choice is a deep feeling of shame that you relieve suddenly a random night when you go to sleep. But I remember I used to identify strongly with the question of why people didn't just say what they meant. Specially women. But yeah, the 'emotions' process basically worked. I have both negative and positive emotions associated with those interactions and that's what's built my personality over all these years, I guess. Great video. Keep em coming.
@pamus6242
@pamus6242 Год назад
Very Interesting indeed !! It clearly describes why I am a continuous A-Hole everyday. Last year I came to the realization how horrible of a person I was to my best friend 15 years ago and that's the biggest regret of my life. 15 years to process an emotion !!!
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds Год назад
I mean, if you're honest with others because you wish they were the same with you, I don't think that's being an arsehole so much as naïve that most people apparently don't work that way. Sure, we'll come across as better people when we try to translate everything we say into allistic equivalents, but at the same time that can take a lot out of us, if we can even do it at all... So even when we strive to be more accommodating to those without this disability, it doesn't mean you're a bad person if you just can't!
@jeffripley9062
@jeffripley9062 Год назад
Insightful stuff! thanks for sharing! I've been subscribed for some time, and only just realized I haven't got the bell clicked... I tried to do so now, and at least when trying from your main channel page, YT says "this feature is disabled for content made for kids". I'm not sure if this is a specific setting you've made on your channel, but thought I'd bring it up. I have enjoyed a great deal of your content, and would love to be notified when you upload...
@TransistorSounds
@TransistorSounds Год назад
Thank you! Hmm, I'm not sure why it's saying that... I just checked, and neither my channel itself nor any of my last ten videos are marked as being for kids. Hopefully I won't have to check the other 70-odd videos! At any rate, it sounds like it informed you OK this time, the video's only been public about an hour, so phew!
@jeffripley9062
@jeffripley9062 Год назад
@@TransistorSounds yup, showed up in my recomendations, at least... just no notification. Thanks again for your content. Looking forward to the next one
@wallpurgesnight8209
@wallpurgesnight8209 Год назад
& that's why Jesus was crucified... 😎