We need timestamps for the sake of convenience: 3:26 Cymbal is being less sensitive 4:43 Loss of sensitivity due to bad soldering 5:48 Internal cable becomes loose 6:11 faulty 1/4in cable 7:03 (Conversion sets only) Trigger has moved 7:43 (Conversion sets only) Trigger has been bent 8:56 (Conversion sets only) Old trigger foam 9:39 Piezo is damaged 10:19 Internal pad is damaged 12:21 Sensitivity knob is turned off 12:56 Bad input jack on module 13:20 Input settings issues 14:21 Cymbal choking itself 15:49 Kick drum head ripped off 16:30 hi-hat pedal issues 18:33 try factory resetting the module
I'm getting one for Christmas as my parents dont want to spend very much money on my first electronic kit, seeing as I have an acoustic kit but want an electric for the easy transportabilty so I can play for church and such. Is the nitro mesh good?
ThePhoenixNate_ i own a nitro, not mesh for the price, the kit is good but preloaded sounds aren’t great(especially the hi hat and controller) and it’s too small(i’m 6’1”). if you play rock, keep in mind that the hi hats have no ‘slosh’ sound- it’s either open or closed closed is too soft and open sounds plain bad now all of this is my opinion, i know a bunch of people who love it- just try and play it before you buy it; that’s something i didn’t do
@@cmdrumming6104 god this fucking roland elitism.. alesis nitro mesh is under 400 dollars. the td1mk is over 700 fucking dollars, with a much worse module and an arguably worse hi-hat pedal and heads. for the price the alesis nitro mesh is easily the best. not everyone has rich parents and a bunch of money on hand. edit: hahahah you definitely have rich parents no wonder you love roland
9:10 Hahahahahaha you do realize that mentioning it is worse than the joke itself, right? :D But really, nice touch of humour, I wasn't expecting it :)
Justin, I just wanted to thank you for all your in-depth information. I bought a 2nd hand Roland TD-30K from a studio in Chicago (I posted a few vids) and while there are no problems with it, I learned everything I know about electronic drums from your channel. You're an invaluable resource, and your dedication to making videos for our knowledge is endless! You ROCK! -Poke.
Thanks very much. Bought a second hand Roland PD 105 snare. It had a "bark" when hit in the middle. Undid the head, found that the Piezo cone (sponge) had deformed. Looks like the head had been over tightened and hit very hard. Worked the sponge cone back into shape and problem 90% fixed. Have ordered new cones to replace. Without your video, I'd have had no clue, so many thanks.
Broken Alesis Strike snare. Honestly I don’t know if I would even still be interested in drums if it were not for this guy. Totally relevant and easy to understand. He also gets right to the point. Very little blah blah blah.
This is SUPER informative. I have learned a few things. Thanks for the shout out about the cymbals! I found that fix quite by accident. The cymbal was already broke... so tearing it open to see what could be wrong, was a no brainer. (I couldn't possibly make it worse!). But seeing all those chunks of rubber stood out to me... removing them seemed like a good place to go. Holy crap... It WORKED! I still get tons of feedback about that video. Literally hundreds of people saying "You saved me a couple hundred dollars!"... that was amazing. I really hope THIS video turns out to be the same for you. You've given me many ideas on how to solve many of the everyday issues I encounter. You're amazing, Justin! Keep doing what you do and all of us will keep loving you for it! I bow to you, Senpai!
Thanks Jay! I literally just typed "how to fix electronic drums" into youtube, watched an ocean of videos, and then tried to tie together all the most common problems and fixes into one comprehensive video (with a little bit of how electronic drums work sprinkled in). You're already an expert on this stuff, I'm glad that I found a couple ideas that you hadn't come across yet! Really glad I ran into that video of yours on the cymbal, it was really helpful for me during the research. Thank you!
“Soldering metal material” I think you mean just solder my did 😂. Not making fun of you, just thought it was kinda funny, you did disclose you’re not an expert on it. Love ya man and all the things you do. Been a fan for a long time. Keep up the awesome work.
Thanks for posting this! As for why felt kick drum beaters are so much more destructive to mesh than plastic ones, I’ve heard a couple theories. One is that they generate more heat, which wears away at the mesh. The one I find more credible, you can prove out yourself. Take a double-sided beater and run the felt side across your pant leg - you’ll notice it really wants to grab. Repeat that with the plastic side and it just slides. I believe that's the answer: since the mesh is a fabric, the felt is grabbing onto it and pulling it down with every hit. Over time, the fabric tears. Mind you, I’ve had mesh start to tear even with a plastic beater, but it took a long time. So I use a patch now. Then, you can use whatever kind of beater you want.
Thanks Justin! My old Roland td-6v Drums were bought used. They're a church kit and looked to be in great shape. But common wear and tear required replacements for a bad cymbal pad and the fd-8 hi hat controller. I tried fixing the rubber in the fd-8, but nothing really lasted. I didn't even think to buy a new one and just replace that part so I bought a whole new fd-8 pedal! I'll replace the part in the old one and sell it to get some money back. My cymbals started losing sensitivity and I'm totally going to open them up and see what is going on and rescue them. I have a newer one on my ir but I can sell off one of the older ones if I can fix it. Also another tip is to upgrade the rack clamps that hold it together. The original ones on mine were unfortunately the crack-able plastic ones and one on the bottom did crack. The later ones are so much more durable. My old kit is practiced on all the time and used for quick song demos, but still sounds and plays great. So happy to know there are quick fixes for many of the common problems on my loved old td-6.
Hey Justin, your explanation with the circuit of the cymbals was very clear and helpful. Besides all the diagrams in the web, I finally got it!!! Thanks a lot:-)
My snare rim trigger off my td-30 failed last week, this was after almost 6 years of hard hitting, there is a little board right by the the snare input plug, the two wires that trigger the rim had become dislodged. A re soldering job sorted it out. I’m quite impressed with the durability of the kit. Apart from this snare issue I’ve only ever broken one cymbal. I do play hard and use heavy sticks and they hold up incredibly well
Very helpful! Bought a second hand dtx, the kick drum is really crackly through the headphone on some of the channels, less so on others, and fine on others, going to work through these and see what we can see.. Big ups.
My Roland CY12 R/C no longer chokes and the edge does not work. This cymbal pad is about 12 years old. Plan to replace it when the stores open again. I just made the bow a crash zone. For now, it works fine except for the choke.
Tnx. Justin💮 While I was watching your video I got an idea what can be problem with bass drum pad and I solved. Sensitivity was the problem. I couldn't hear bass drum pedal. I opened bass drum pedal and I realised that trigger is not in the middle of the pad, it's actually on the bottom of pad. I just move beater more down and it was perfect position and sensitivity it was normal like on other components. Millenium MPS-850 is e-drum set what I have. Btw your videos are amazing. So informative. Keep it up and all the best🤟🏻
@Ceca Mix Hi! I have the same drum kit, and I've had every 10" snare/tom pad so far become less sensitive on me (anywhere between "triggers less on one side" to "completely dead"). Got 2 replacements and even they started suffering after just 6 months. Had similar issues and/or found any fixes for that?
As a someone who had a Roland td 11 set and freakin destroyed their drum set and cymbals over the span of 3 years I really wish I would of knew this sooner, I got a td 50 now and it really holds up way better
Thanks for this useful video Justin. The information you have on your channel is a priceless toolbox for every e-drum owner, and this actual video is yet another good example.
This is amazing. Can't wait to get home and check a few things. A few of my cymbals double (and sometimes quadruple) trigger and it's been driving me nuts.
Excelent video, Justin! Thanks for all the info provided! I had a small problem on my hi-hat. Sometimes when I closed it, it was still making the sound like it was opened. I simply dissembled all the cables and when I put them back, the problem stopped. It was probably the cable that was a bit out the right position (I guess). Cheers!
My Alesis Pro's snare trigger plate broke 15 months after my purchase date and when I contacted them I was told I had to buy a new one since it only had one year guaranty. I used tapes to fix the plate and it works fine since.
Nice! Really nice! Thanks for all that info Justin! 💪👍 A couple of months ago I set up my old td10 to find that 2 pd9 had bad soldering on the piezos and the actuator in the fd7 we’re old and stiff. So I’ve tried to do exactly some of those fixes that you mention, with somewhat great success. Nice video!
Yo man, could you make a video about stacking metal cymbals on top of rubber E cymbals? DonutDrums did this in his video "ULTIMATE ELECTRIC DRUM SET part 2". It seems like a really cool idea, and i want to try it but im not shure if it will work. I dont have any metal cymbals and I dont know if I should buy them to try this. I cant find anything about it on the internet. It would be awesome if you could make a video about it or just share your expirience about it here. Does it still trigger, do you keep 3 zones on your cymbal?
This was really helpfull thank you. I bought a second hand alesis surge mesh. I got it really sheap but its in really bad shape. Was starting to think i made a big mistake bit this gives me hope. Be broke sucks but atleast i learn to fix things. 😅
Fantastic thanks # :) I have some emerging problems with my Roland TD17KVX's hi-hat and snare. I had already been thinking of the 'nuke' option of factory reset because it's used by my children as well. But I think it will be something physical in the pad/cymbals so this video will be useful.
Great info. Thanks. I have a set of TD-20’s that play Ike new, but my 2 yr old TD-17 kvx set is already having loss of volume/sensitivity in the crashes.
Oh, one thing I think would be useful would be if a drum kit could be services and maintained - a pro who would be able to sit at it and immediately see likely issues, check the wiring, etc. Like we have done with the car or motorbike. And stock some common replacement parts - a lot of the fixes described here would be a doddle for someone experienced but nerve wracking to a DIY numpty. I haven't come across or heard about such things. With the number of e-kits out there, and the fact that they are never going to be as easy to service and fix as a metal kit, plus the service and repair tools would be small and easily transported... I'd have thought there's a business opportunity here. I'd certainly pay someone to come out and go over my kit once every year or two, just as I do with the motorbike. I could learn how to fix things myself... but I'd rather spend that time playing and pay someone with the skills to do the checks, servicing, and improvements. Different for a metal kit, if you're gigging - it's best to have a rough idea of how to fix basic problems there because you don't know what'll go amiss, when. But e-kits don't get used for gigging anywhere near as much (I don't) so that isn't a skill I really need. Is there any such service out there?
Hi Justin- first of all, thanks for your videos! I have the problem you mention at 6:11- the connector of the cable in the cymbal just pops out a bit making the cymbal not to sound (or sound muuuuch lower). I fix it in again but it just keeps popping out again, so I have no ways to have it properly connected through out a song. Any ideas/tips of how I could fix this?
Nice video man.? I have used a few of these things usually to great affect . But I have a little bit to add to the fixing of the kd8. After doing the cutting on the back of the rubber I cut two small rcectangular pieces off a rubber eraser and glue them to the where the pedal and the pedal housing make contact this cuts way down on noise then grease all rubber surfaces and it works better than new now
Great video man, solve many doubts... I have an alesis dm10 and when i hit the tom head the rim sound is triggered too. ¿What can i do to repair it? Greetings from Chile.
Hi Justin! I like your channel. So, I have not even had my Roland that 506 for six months and it’s working pretty good aside from one problem I’m having. the choke sensor on my 14 inch crash. only works on about 20% of the cymbal … not sure if you’ve heard of anybody having an easy fix. I’m sure I can send it back, but I don’t wanna be without one of the pieces of my drum set you know?!
What is the difference between piezo pickups/sensors? Are they all the same? Do they all sound the same? I see prices differences....so is that just manufacturing or is there really a difference in quality and sensitivity and sound?
Hey Justin. I kinda hate to do this (just not enuff to stop me haha) I value your info. I have a TD17 and want an amp. Keepin it close to $300 wld be nice. I like volume but I play just for fun (the gigging world isn't ready for me :) and quality is king. From what I read the Roland. 100 should have enuff horsepower. It seems they all try to stress brand matchin. I'm not playing loyalty tho.
Hello should I turn my beater around it's felt facing the sincer bit I see people say that it will destroy the sincer much faster should I turn it thanks
Hey Justin, thanks for the info on the video. The problem with one particular pad going wrong that I encountered is the Yamaha XP 100 tooms. The low rim sensing the upper rim, vice versa...or,at one pad, the rim disappeared completely. I searched and searched on the web, but nothing. These pads are piezo for head and two switches for two zone rim. I don't use three XP100's for that reason. So, if anyone has little help for me, I'd much appreciate it. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Not sure if this was covered, since I can't see the comments, but here goes: I recently bought a Pyle 8-piece set from Amazon - the one that costs $269. Just yesterday, after having it for just 2 weeks, one of the rack toms came loose and it now just dangles. I tried to tighten it back up with the tightening screw, but it won't tighten anymore. I'm guessing that the screw somehow got stripped, but I can't tell by looking at it or see what's really going on up inside where the drum is supposed to tighten to the rack. Is there an easy fix to this, so I don't have to ship the whole thing back? I was thinking of stuffing something in between the drum and rack like a piece of fabric or something. Help!
Hey Justin love the videos btw very informative. I’ve been looking to get my first e drum set and have been looking at the Yamaha dtx562k but I remember you said it wasn’t worth it for 1800 but recently I’ve seen them for 1500 would you say that’s worth it or should I just keep saving? Thanks
The trigger plate on the mesh snare for my Alesis Command kit cracked in half and I had to get it replaced under warranty, so I can confirm that its not just the strike and strike pro this happened to.
Very informative video! I have an old Yamaha DTxpress drumkit... it was working fine until lately there seems to be a buzzing sound when I hit each pad and sometimes the sound just cuts off... I'm guessing that it is a grounding issue within the module. Can you recommend any solutions or fixes for it?
Help needed! I have an Alesis Nitro Mesh electric kit and recently the floor tom pad stopped working, I did a bit of digging online and ordered some new Piezos, soldered it, checked with a multimeter for continuity and everything was working fine, double sided the rod back onto the piezo and put back together, plugged it in and got nothing (played around with the sensitivity etc) took it apart again and the piezo trigged the tom when the rod was off and I was tapping my finger directly on the piezo but not when the foam rod was attached! Can anyone help?? Before it makes me even more bald.
Justin, pardon me if you already covered this, but, I have a Carlsbro CSD500 kit, works great except the snare makes a crackling sound , sometimes even if I’m not hitting it. I’ve had the head off and I couldn’t see any loose wires from the sensor, what do you think it could be? Rich
My CY-13R cymbal is triggering both the edge and bow when I strike the edge. Any idea what that could be? I saw the whole video but you didn't talk about double triggering.
I recently bought a used set of Alesis drums. It is in very good shape except for the frame clamps which all seem to have a crack in them. I cannot find anyone that sells replacement parts. Do you know of someone that may carry these parts or perhaps have a solution to repair these clamps somehow? I appreciate any help you could offer.
I have a KAT KT3 and the module is not producing any sound output on the phones or mono/stereo output. When I hit the set, I can see red signal blinking on the module but no sound output. What are the possibility to check and issues?
Hey Justin, please do a First Impressions/Review of the new 2box Speedlight kit. Its great that 2box has now their own compact kit, now all they need is a compact module since their big ass module is quite outdated.
@@65Drums no worries! Justin, I stumbled upon your "TD50 vs Pearl Mimic Pro" video and noticed you were able to "frankenstein" a kick/snare/hat + module E-kit setup. Is it alright if you do a video on how to set up a 3-piece e-kit :) Cheers!
I have a PD-120 using as a snare, sometimes rim shots don’t work. I checked the connections inside and they all seem good... doesn’t seem which kit I pick. I’m using a TD-6V module. Any suggestions?
Hi Justin, would it be still worth it to buy a 1 year old used TD-11 KV for about 700 dollars? In India, a new one (out of stock now) was retailing at around 1650 dollars. And a new TD-17KV currently retails at 1735 dollars. I need it mainly for practice and to trigger VST for recording.
This is why Roland has won the e-drum industry IMO. Theyre the most reliable and durable brand out there. I know Yamaha isnt too bad as well and ATV seems like its catching up. Its just Alesis and 2box that are not durable
Question here Justin. Have not been here due to illness and injury, but I have a quick question, and I am hoping that you can answer this for me, for the internet is not giving me the answer. I have always wanted an Octopad. Big time. Well I finally got one. I really wanted the Roland SPD30 but had to settle for the older SPD8 or Pad-8. But the problem is that I am trying to figure out is, how do I wire this up for sound. I know I need a sound module. And I have an Alesis Command module for the Alesis Command Mesh. I have the Midi out on the Pad 8 and a Midi In on the module. What I was wondering is. Will this work if I hook the Pad 8 to this. I do NOT want to fry this module, but I do need a module. And right now due to this trouble in the world, money is a little tight. I will get a module, but I do not have to cash to spend on this at the moment. SO please if you can answer this. Please let me know. Thank you so much. And keep the videos coming. And please keep you and your family safe. And Prayers to you and all. For at this time, the are well needed. Thank you John
Replacement Cones? Do any of you know a source in North America for replacement trigger cones for Roland drums? I have a few that are losing sensitivity. I can source them out of Europe but shipping is too expensive.
