Why Engineers Are So Worried About This Acquisition 

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lol, most artists and designers will get this joke

LOL good insider joke

adobe is as predatory as they come. I had to pay an early cancellation fee to my annual subscription because I cancelled after 3 months. sure, my fault for not reading the fine print but this is like the first SaaS that I know that pulls a stunt like this. Way to quickly get your customers to hate you.

@@Qibbles Same here, I signed up because I wanted to check out Adobe Audition, then got hit with a $75 early cancellation fee. I saw something about a possible class action lawsuit, but I'm not sure if that's been put into motion. Hopefully so.

Wow

That's terrible. My dad is reliant on vmware for his engineering school.

Old company I used to work for got acquired by Broadcom about 2 years ago. Most people I knew from that company are now working elsewhere. Most left, the rest got managed out.

@@donjulioanejo Yep, that is what gonna happen with vmware. Give it a couple of years.

@@XioJNtime to switch to virtualbox

I know it probably won't help you too much...but if you are looking to reduce cloud costs, you can take a look at Hetzner. Perhaps it can help reduce the costs a bit at least..

Oof

KVM (Linux), UTM (Mac), qemu (cross platform), virtualbox (don’t use this one unless you have to)

proxmox. Pay an IT guy to set this up.

Proxmox

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If you lose customers fast and crash the company there is no ROI. Let's see what happens and what value it will be in 2 years.

Revenue isn't profit my dude

@@toseltreps1101 Fair. Their profit margin was 14%, so 1.54 billion roughly. That makes the 69 billion purchase price even more questionable. But it doesn't really change my main point which is that their ROI here is quite low as an investment unless they're expecting to increase prices a lot.

@@phonyalias7574 well, we all love a good underdog story. let's see how this one turns out, the monopolist raising prices rarely ends in everyone bowing to them. well except to nVidia. they're truly evil now

Yea I think most major cloud service providers use KVM for their virtual compute instances

VMware is a longstanding partner of Microsoft and AWS and has integrated solutions for both providers. It’s integrated partially through VMware Aria, and enables fully cloud, multi cloud, or hybrid infrastructure.

@@LDrumsOhioyes but that is an add on you have to pay as a customer and which is made to ease migration from an on-premise VMware environment to the Cloud.

Just curious here, can you continue where you left off if you restart your VM machine in QEMU? Whenever I restart, anything I installed or previous work appear to have never taken place.

@@manuelrivera6778 maybe youre creating a whole new vm everytime you start it? make sure that you are using the files from previous usages

@@manuelrivera6778 You can, it sounds like you haven't installed the OS after loading the installation iso (assuming Linux). There should be an install option as a desktop shortcut.

That’s a different use case as you’re not really using any of the features that enterprises use. VSAN, NSX, ESXI, VMotion, Vstorage, etc.

​@@LDrumsOhioCorrect.

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True, though containers are a much inferior security boundary to hardware-enabled virtualization. For business sectors that aren't just web app shops and that have a decent compliance burden, it is often a brtter choice to use VMs instead of containers, or do a hybrid approach where apps ofna similar security profile or similar attack surface are put in the same K8S cluster of VMs.

Containerization is not virtualization. Also, emulation is not hardware abstraction. There are so many avenues for app execution and they're all very useful in how they work. VMware has some containerization tools but I've never figured out how to use them.

Different use cases. Not that many companies are running VMware for their web app infrastructure. Who this affects the most is big enterprises running all their internal stuff in large VMware clusters, and small mom and pop shops running 1-2 ESXi hosts with Active Directory/Exchange. Mid-size companies that were running small VMware clusters are all in the process of switching over to Microsoft's HyperV, even though they all complain about HyperV.

@@AlexanderRay92 If you're already in the cloud and using managed Kubernetes, a much simpler solution is to just have different Kubernetes clusters for different compliance perimeters. IE you have a cluster for PCI-scope apps, and a cluster for non-PCI apps, and then some internal services like Cilium which enhance Kubernetes security (i.e. via more granular network policies).

Hahaha

Wait for the Open ai sora. It will be a stock footage haven

​@@KMASIF-mi9yj I bet the API for SORA will be much pricier than for GPT-4. It'll probably be more in the range of a dollar per minute, will take some time to generate, and won't always give what you want.

LMAO, never noticed. Margin Call is a pretty good movie

The problem with VirtualBox was minor scaling at 2K or up to 4K Screens when we installed the Operating System without guest drivers or guest tools. VMWare Workstation has that option where you correct the older scaling at standard or stretch.

Also, you can't add 8GB of VRAM in VirtualBox because of limitations with 256 megabytes. Edit: if you want us to find a better Virtual Machine than VMWare for Windows, it's not Virt-manager or VirtualBox; it has to feature either full-screen scaling mode to match.

Proxmox

if you're on Linux, why not kvm tho, virtualbox is considerably slower compared to kvm imo

Virtual Box is owned by Oracle, arguably way way way way way worse than Broadcom.

Agreed, I have a old gigabyte X79-UP4 motherboard and I use every slot on it, I’m not sure if it has any PLX bridge chips, but the massive amounts of IO it has is something I wish every board had these days.

Heard something similar from Level1Techs or ServeTheHome in the last month or two when talking about a 2U server and the motherboard. They were talking about the same thing for those. Been hearing a lot of bad things about the company.

I see 🤔🤔

I use proxmox for my home lab and 0 issues with it, a possible great opportunity for them, they may need to scale up their customer service team to support businesses. Why do so many companies die this way start off with an idea, change the world get greedy then die to the competition

@@ensardafae Especially in the current times, corporate greed has reached an absolute peak, milking all the milk out of the cows to exhaustion

It's literally become a battle of how much you can degrade a product and save money on product development so that consumers will still continue to pay for it

I used IBM's other VM OS VM/360 (I can't remember exactly what it was called on an IBM 4381! It was so good we were able to build our own OS as a VM guest client and get 20 students running on it back in 1987!

​@@PWingert1966that's so badass 😱

@@honor9lite1337 The OS we implemented was called turning. from U of T in Toronto by a professor holt

@@PWingert1966A similar system I used ran DOS/VSE under VM/CMS where VM was short for Virtual Machine. To loop back to the main point: VMware's ability to host/manage multiple vendor environments on the same hardware is a significant improvement but not completely unique. Many of the features and advantages of virtualization were implemented on systems that predate VMware and even Microsoft.

@@boblangill6209 that's what I was trying to remember VM/CMS! LOL. Thanks.

Interesting 🤔

Your customer simply didn't upgrade his vsphere, lol. The HTML5 panel has been out for many years. The flash one was still supported, but deprecated.

What's your role at that time?

@@honor9lite1337 System Engineer working on Zero Trust Security integration projects and other VMware products and patents.

If you had such great leaders, why did they sell out to Broadcom then?

Best comment ever.

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He said 69B ...didn't he?

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@@bvssrsguntur6338 Humour in the numbers 69 420

openstack I believe

Azure and AWS don't run off VMware, but hosted VMware is a core product for both to sell to enterprise users, and integration into the cloud infrastructure requires the use of VMware software. Also, if we're speaking outside of the context of Azure, you seem to be under the impression Microsoft exclusively uses Windows Server and Hyper-V which is not the case.

Why not use competing tech when it's better? MS uses Linux in their Azure DCs.

AWS runs on KVM after switching from Xen years ago

They offer managed VMWare clusters, and on the back-end of large companies you can sometimes find individual teams using tools you wouldn't expect

this.... companies don't change core software/services overnight, they lay plans to do it over time.

I've alreaday been seeing a number of customers migrate to Nutanix and even a few to Hyper-V

reverse engineering never dies

They'll probably be a bit slower to do that. There's a moderate chance they'll cut features over time in order to "encourage" people to pay up, but getting rid of it entirely is more questionable. Of course every company makes their own decisions for their own reasons, but its somewhat widely accepted these days that providing "free for personal use" editions functions more as a loss-leader than as a pure loss. Basically the idea relies on there being three types of customers: - People who are happy to buy your product. These people you don't really care about - they've already paid their money. Moving to a subscription model means you have to keep them happy, but that's a lot easier than making them happy to pay the first time. - People who are on the fence but might buy your product. This is the target of free trials (time-limited or otherwise). Show these people what you do and hope that you made the trial period long enough that they find a reason to start paying you for more. - People who would use your product but not pay for it. This is the target of "free for personal use" versions, and the category that's most confusing - why would a company care about these people? Basically because its a PR stunt. The individual might not be willing to pay for it for their own use but if the company they work for needs a product you provide, having someone already familiar with your product provides a significant leg up over the competition. And even if _that_ doesn't happen, the person who likes your product (even if they refuse to pay for it) will end up talking about it to other people who might be more willing to open their wallet. That last category is very interesting because it somewhat breaks the kind of "simple" economic theories that average people tend to be vaguely aware of. It only makes sense when you consider the impacts of brand awareness, advertising and PR which most "simple" theories don't address (there's a reason why economics has a full doctorate program - there's just too much to learn in a one-semester intro course never mind trying to learn the subject via bumper sticker slogans). (That category is also what Gates was referring to -- oof, over 25 years ago -- when he said "As long as they're going to steal [software], we want them to steal ours", talking about piracy - effectively treating illegitimate copies of Windows the same way modern companies, including MS themselves, now treat "free for personal use" versions.)

Cool my uni will drop that crap then

Didn't they just make licencing exponentially more expensive? in some case 2 to 10 times more for MSP's? Like all those smaller businesses having to pay the price for it?

DPU is load shifting not in itself virtualization.

Well I'm definitely worried about this, since VMWare Workstation has been a very important tool for me, and VirtualBox just won't cut it for a large portion of my usage. Hyper-V is an option, but it's still got a way to go before it would be comparable. I'm already having issues with VMWare though, as VMWare 17 broke many things (poor Windows 11 handling compared to VMWare 16, and also the removal of virtual disk mounting), so a switch to Hyper-V has already become inevitable for me.

@@teknixstuff Same. I've been using VMware Workstation daily since 2004 and Fusion since 2008 or so. They are both highly performant and nothing I've used has come even remotely close to how close VMware performs to the bare metal. Parallels on the Mac might be as good, I don't know, but they charge yearly, so I'm not interested in their pricing model. I'm an average user and systems/network engineer and I am worried that the price of Workstation and Fusion will skyrocket like the rest of the price increases for VMware products after the Broadcom acquisition. I might need to look at testing under Hyper-V for Windows, KVM for Linux and Apple's new MacOS virtualization framework, for a future contingency plan. I've used VirtualBox before, but it wasn't great at the time and I don't want to move towards being reliant upon Oracle.

Oh wow, seems like you understand every possible use case out there. You are a geniuis.

The old ESX days gave some pretty interesting work life, before VMware ironed out the kinks. I remember time keeping in ESX for a while was really clunky, to the point of not working. The ESX virtualisation of hardware timers was so broken for a while there. VMware even put out a white paper about how difficult it is to virtualise hardware timers, with a note to customers to not run time servers as VMs. Imagine our surprise when we logged into Windows servers that were playing up, to find the clock *_ticking_* *_backwards!_* You could click the time in the SysTray to open the clock and literally see the seconds hand ticking backwards!!!!!!! Imagine the confusion within the time stamped event logs!!! Running a NTP time sync service as a VM? Haha!!! Good luck with that! They would oscillate wildly between too fast and too slow, because they were attempting to compensate for drift in a hardware timer (which ought to have a relatively consistent drift) which was actually a virtual "hardware" timer that was not running at a consistent rate. Those days were a nightmare for us in the infra team, trying to take care of these systems after we had already virtualised our infra.

Interesting 🤔

ESX kernel has nothing to with Linux. It can (or could, I am not up to date) load Linux drivers and there is a management VM with Linux. But the hypervisor itself is not Linux. If it were they would have had to release the source code.

Ah fair point

Exactly, each application exists in its own virtual memory space. However, virtual memory != virtual machine. It's confusing to conflate the two

Glad you enjoyed the video man! Unfortunately, not so great for VMware

Thank you as always Balpreet!

Ah, thanks for the extra insights Rodrigo :)

Ah, thanks for the heads up man

👍no problem, you make some of my favorite vids man.@@LogicallyAnswered

Its fair to say the skilled Microsoft ecosystem employee didn't know linux, so vmware made it easy for them to virtualise Windows. But linux skills are growing, times have changed and these people are now comfortable to start using robust linux platforms to virtualise windows servers.

They weren't the first. They just wrapped easiness around the product so smaller companies with less skilled/experience employees could leverage virtualisation for cost savings.

They are already there. Also if you have a professional version of Windows (not Home edition) you have Hyper-V which is Microsoft’s hypervisor.

Don't remind me the 7.0 SD fiasco. What a mess knowing that I could never reboot the host server that it may not come back up and it's part of the vSAN. I eventually trashed the entire two clusters of 7 nodes each and switched them to ProxMox. Never looked back.

"I thought it is MS application" It's a concept in Comp.Sci and Comp.Eng that supposedly goes all the way back to the 60's, but it really ramped up in the 70's. Virtualization of compute, memory, storage, hardware and networks.

I don’t know what kind of Broadcom manager you had. But I have never had that kind of experience with any Broadcom manager lol.

Why? There's already open source alternatives out there. vmware will never open source their code.

Do you use them personally or as an Enterprise user?

@@honor9lite1337 I use both VMware and KVM in production and they are solid. KVM is where I'm going to migrate to 100%. For VDI I can fire up a host, install some desktop VM's and setup Apache Guacamole behind a reverse proxy to host VDI to my sales team no issue.

@@honor9lite1337 I have used KVM for enterprise use. I've known others who have used lxc platform on proxmox. I will not specify the companies, but yes. I have seen other tech then VMWare used and it did work with some configuration. as far as containers, corporate, I've use Kubernetes with containerd. I've also used podman. I do use containers, Proxmox, and KVM at home as well.

Both.

Really appreciate the kind feedback!

Hey good vibes but you should read the comments because there are a lot of inaccuracies in this video's description of virtual machines

Hyper-V already exist in 2004?

The first virtualization from MSFT, If I remembering correctly is called Virtual PC.

@@honor9lite1337 It might have been 2005 or 2006, wouldn't be later than that. Can't be sure about exactly when I set it up but it was a very long time ago.

Fake claims 😢

VMware does provide virtualization for software. It's primarily known for its virtual machine software, which allows multiple operating systems to run on a single physical machine (hardware virtualization). However, VMware also offers solutions for application virtualization and management, cloud computing, and networking. it's not entirely correct to say that VMware only has a market in hardware virtualization. They have diversified into other areas like cloud management and networking (e.g., NSX for network virtualization and vRealize for cloud management).

Yeah, def more of a tech enthusiast/purist worry

Mhm, average computer users who even do jobs in technical areas might not use VMware and if they want to run any kind of virtualization max to max just to divide workspace.. They can go with another service like VirtualBox and they don't really care about VMware

You made the mistake of thinking they cared about you. So stop caring about them.

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