I'd be pissed as hell if I sent my kid to school and then they come back home saying that some stranger was invited into the classroom and allowed to kiss and touch them. Get a grip lady and be respectful of other people's children.
@@subhabratadas4087 Taking unvetted strangers to a school is wrong on so many levels. Has nothing to do with culture, this is pure exploitation, exposing those kids to all kinds of miscreants.
no, when in Rome... i've brought my kids to 3rd world countries and other people touched my kids but it was normal for those cultures. just have to roll with it.
Every other black country has just as much or MORE poverty than South Africa.... why is this story being twisted in yet another "it's all whiteys fault" vibe?
@@digbyjones4203 It is whiteys fault. If we didn't massacre them, bomb their cities to shit, colonize their countries, divide up their land, sell weapons to warlords, buy diamonds form gangsters, train and fund local terrorist groups, incite mass religious unrest, kidnap thousands of locals, kill their local leaders, sponsor coups, create apartheid, steal their oil, pollute their waters, cut down their forests, drive them to poach and then kill them for doing so, force them to work in mines where the white owners get the resources they dig, then they may have a fighting chance.
@@BBxx19 Or maybe you'll benefit from expanding your worldview by reading up on genocieds and plunder on the African continent courtesy of white people; how it continues and the effects on past, present and future generations. Ignorance is a choice.
@@anyaperceives While I agree the person above is absolutely wrong and ridiculous, you are no better by saying that. Also Neanderthals were just as intelligent as homosapiens in the same time period so your point is just stupid.
white leftists look down on all brown people. why do you think they break into applause when a black guy manages to finish primary school. they didnt think it could happen!
Im from south africa @ByeBitch it isnt the guys fault who does the tours coz he's putting food on the table .Im in the middle class so ive got priveliges that he doesnt have access to ...you have to do what you can around here to get your check its rough for the lower class citizens in my country
That young man said it best. "people take our pictures without our permission. We are not animals." That woman kissing those kids crossed the line 😕. She shouldn't have. Hugging or shaking hands would have been just fine.
Dakalo M eh don’t be soo sensitive lah. She’s just showing affection. If you see things from a bad perspective, you’ll only get to see the bad part of it.
I'm South African, and I need to make a couple of points: 1) The Swiss lady is a creep and should be charged!! 2) That is not a township, its an informal settlement. Government refuse to develop informal settlements because they are either not recognised as safe for human settlement OR a result of illegal land occupation. 3) Yes, South Africa is, unfortunately, notoriously known as the most unequal country in the world; we have living standards that rival Switzerland and in the same breath those that rival the poorest countries in the world.
Really? Because there was a black tourist interviewed in the video..... or didn't you bother watching that far before rushing to the comments to start race-baiting.
Everyone is judging her way too harshly, she wasn’t trying to be creepy, I think she didn’t realize what she said sounded like that. She’s just a mother who likes kids, the kids where all happy and smiling to meet her anyway, no harm done.
What a crock. Before settlers these people were living in huts without electricity dying from the common cold. Blame 25 years of ANC theft and corruption by your own people
Cheyno Mdingi incorrect. Your ancestors brought those diseases here. My ancestor did not care for such a lifestyle. It was forced upon them. Stop trying to speak for my people colonizer
@Zac Crow Vice rarely reports on stuff like that to begin with. They run their articles about weirdly specific stuff but they're not the "breaking news" type.
@Zac Crow Showdown Vice News (The youtube channel) only post what Vice News (The TV Channel) has posted after a week it aired on TV, so don't expect to hear anything from Vice News for about a week.
When I was 12 years old I went to South Africa with my family. We were a group of white European tourist who went to langa township just like this family in the video. We also visited the houses and schools. And I remember feeling weird. I wanted to show these kids that I was just like them. I wanted us to feel equal. But the fact that we were giving them all kinds of gifts and taking pictures with our expensive cameras just made it impossible to give them the feeling that we are equal. It did really feel odd. I wish I could have just lived with them for a day. Played soccer together. Eat together. Not just watch and take pictures. Not treat them like a tourist attraction but Treat them like a friend. It's hard to explain. Even though we helped them by donating I felt like it gave off the wrong vibes. And I felt that even though I was just a child and did not know much about the politics and apartheid.
@@Xainfinen In America French guys are stereotypicaly shown wearing that exact shirt, even in cartoons, and then this French guy is actually wearing one. I want to say it's ironic but I'm not sure if that's the right word?
I really appreciate his journalism! In my opinion he finds the perfect balance between asking the right questions and not leading the narrative too subjectively! Thank you!
Wow, this made me uncomfortable. I'm sure there are good motives to visit these places, but the second I see a camera, all I can think is this will be some white person's inspirational instagram post
yup they would build establishments for skill training with yards and what not, at the establishment there would be a cafe where the rich would eat and observe the poor working like a zoo.
Lol. This is similar to all the American church mission trips to poverty stricken areas/countries. At least this guy has found a way to use the tourist business for his advantage.
"We want to show our kids what life is like in different places." *Did you explain why life is like that for these people?* No, that is too much for them.
This reminds me of a story Trevor Noah once told about him and a group of people going on an "excursion" to the locals' home. It's crazy for first world nations to even phantom having random strangers causually drop in on an underprivileged household just so these tourists can witness their everyday life. It's disheartening but this is their reality.
Im from South Africa ,Cape Town, I’m so glad that Vice showcased what the camera doesn’t show. The margin between rich and poor especially in Cape Town is forever increasing. Most houses alongside the sea are sold to foreigners and due to that the property value is for increasing and the dream of buying a house grows further and further.
This is actually where I was born and raised I grew up here and always felt very weird when you see tour busses and people taking pictures of us playing.today I live and work in Dubai my life has taken a full 360 turn I’ve pushed myself from seeing all these people coming from better backgrounds. Every year I go back home and as the tour guide says the townships are about culture I could afford to stay in the poshest of hotels when I visit home but I stay in the township as that feeling can not be replaced or copied I hope when you all watch this short story you don’t look down on us and rather appreciate how these people open their homes to strangers and allow them to feel at home even if it’s just for a few minutes. South Africa is a country of many stories choose the one you want visit and experience it
The same thing is done in Brazil with the favelas and it’s uncomfortable bc it is like “omg look at these people in poverty.” It’s kind of fucked Up. But not everyone comes for a bad reason, some people really do come to tour low income areas to learn about the people there and how to structurally combat poverty...but overall I think it can be done better. A historical tour of the favelas or townships where they learn about the history and sociology, etc I think could be ok...but generally only visit these neighborhoods if you organically make a friend with someone there and they take you. These areas are just neighborhoods in the cities they are a part of, they just face unique challenges compared to other neighborhoods.
There is a slum here in Los Angeles. and it is a hundred times more dirty than that of South Africa. but someone can explain to me why European tourists when they come to los angeles they do not want to see the los angles slums??? at least those in southern Africa have a roof .. those in los angeles have no roof live and shit and urinate in the street and the city does not want to do anything..and im from los angeles!.. united states has more homeless than any country in africa..
byron ellington Los angles is a first world city with first world problems South Africa has a murder rate of 56 per 100,000 ... the USA has a murder rate of 5.5 per 100,000
byron ellington this area they went to is called "cape flats" it is one small area of a city and in ONE weekend that area had 21 murders .. 21 murders in one area of a city in one weekend
Apparently they do this is Brazil as well. My friend went to a language school in Rio and she said favela tours were part of the extra-curricular activities for students.
What are they supposed to do? Give half of their savings away? This is tourism, a fair exchange (the tour, souvenirs ecc. for some money). It's not supposed to be a hand-out
@@shabbytwo1787 "I don't ask, I just go to any house and they allow me". By that he means that people just let his tour in their houses without having to ask permission before; i.e. they're so much in favor of this, they just allow these tourists in as soon as they show up on their front porch. It's not as if these guys storm in the locals' homes without telling them.
"I'll go to USA, my brother and go to places you would never go" wow, he hit the nail on the head. Stop dramatizing foreign cultural and take a look at the mirror.
The reason white South Africans don't go there is because they want to avoid the reality of what they and their ancestors did. White Europeans go there to feel better about themselves and their crappy lives in Europe. I don't think a black American relates to either of those
Not true...being the only black in a group in public means you'll just have random people ask you to buy marijuana. It's assumed that black = drugs in America. Studying for college finals in public WITH a backpack and books WITH non black friends= you look like a drug dealer and may be asked by a white person to sell them drugs or where to buy it. 🇺🇸 So, Im thinking they would assume any of those blacks were drug dealers. At least the American tourists...
I as a south african hate poverty tourism,they send a wrong message about south africa South african towships are vibrant,living,great lifestyle,yes poverty is part of the architecture but not who we are,we do not let the poverty stand in our way We are proud people,we love our townships
i wish you would of also talked of all the NGO's that come down here and mess around with our economy while providing an easy way for our government to ignore poverty
Is this place actually a product of apartheid or merely just poverty and unemployment? I've seen lots of videos of SA and I've never seen people living like this until now
Zach T Our townships are largely former “Bantustans” created in the apartheid era (areas designated for black people to inhabit). Unfortunately, it’s the poverty and unemployment that has kept people there post-apartheid.
@@pelomk9022 Please read what I said. I didn't say we didn't have them, I said we don't refer to them as SLUMs. Angithi I am not from SA and wena wazi wonke umuntu wase mzani.
@Showdown europe wont exist then. When the white men vanished, the yellow men is going to continue. But you have to know that chinese are by far more racist. Europe in this actual days is just Babylon 2.0 I personally smell a feeling of the last days since 2014.
@Showdown i merely believe that the USA was just an experiment to see if it does work on a bigger landmass. Yes, the building of the EU comission is looking like the tower of Babel. Strange shit.
It's been 25 years since Nelson Mandela came into power and the end of the apartheid. In post-apartheid South Africa, Most government roles and the police have been filled by blacks but unemployment has been extremely high as the country has struggled with many changes. While many blacks have risen to middle or upper classes, the overall unemployment rate of black people worsened between 1994 and 2003 by official metrics, but declined significantly using expanded definitions. Poverty among whites, previously rare, increased.
Exploitation, he explained how the tour guide doesn't even ask to come into homes before hand. The only advantage some might get is donations from the foreigners.
@@sandhyamathura they're happy to have tourists, just dont like when they take photos. if i was them, i'd get extremely pissed but you got to admit that this guy is a smart business man.
I'm not sure if this type of "tourism" is bad and should be classified as "poverty porn", mainly because it is true that everyone should have an idea of how it is to live in poverty and that not everyone has access to the same opportunities. I believe this tour will change the Swiss kid perspective of the world, and hopefully make him a better man. This is just the reality and all of us should be aware of it.
same thing in india the foreigners just love Dharavi,Mumbai.they barge into random peoples homes to see "slums".they are peoples homes.those people work hard to make a living they dont want your fake pity.just leave them alone
A lot of white travelers believe non-white people are more "authentic" if they're extremely poor. They want to feel like they're having the same experience a 18th century British explorer had. They feel the way to achieve that is by going poverty sight seeing. Being among middle class or wealthy non-white people isn't good enough. They won't acknowledge it, but that is how they think. Also it's the goal of every white traveler to be the first white person that a non-white person has ever seen. Higher odds of achieving that in a really poor area.
It might seem weird but I think this is alright. It exposes foreigners and tourists to SOME reality of poverty in Africa, not just the nice upscale towns. If they truly want to help they can contribute to nonprofits within the slums or even try to start one with the help or the tour guide. Annnd they should treat everyone with more respect and not go around taking pictures without permission, I think that should be part of the "tour rules "
White people keep saving africa since the 80s with aid supllies and medical programs. the result 400 million people population in 1980 to 1200 million today. great success!!!!
Pure exploitation, the world really is racing to the bottom. This tour guide is exposing these poor people, especially those kids to so many dangers, not to mention the human zoo effect, sickening. What the hell is that school thinking letting unvetted strangers rock up every day?!!! Truly disturbing. At least if this tour guide was helping the poor people in the townships to set up home bars and food places they could make a living and improve their living conditions. Really losing my faith in humanity!
I went to South Africa in a similar township tour. I didn't take any pictures, but I did interact and try to spend a reasonable amount of money to the local people.
Those people did not have to travel across the globe to see poverty, its everywhere. They could have traveled to Downtown Los Angeles or the Florida panhandle. Homeless and tent city is all over the United States. Then to show up there with no care packages, Just Rude.
I don’t understand why people come to Africa and avoid the fancy parts and the well developed parts of it .. instead they want to go to slumps and visit slumps ? I’m a South African after watching this video I feel insulted because they think they have went on an African tour .. ! Africa is not the same Africa it was 100 years ago !! We have developed and people are so ignorant to the point that they spend money to come see poor parts of Africa , every country has a rich and poor area reason because of the segregation’s that we why through decades ago ! Now going deeper into what I’m saying ( why would European people come to Africa to see the effect of their work ?) it’s like , they enjoy seeing us suffering .. and we are not !! We are not !! They chose to go to slumps and that’s what makes them happy
Let's keep it real for a second. The living conditions for many black people in SA could be better. It's worse in other African countries (like Burundi and Liberia) so why not show that too? In Brazil they literally hide those places like they did during the World Cup and I think that's even worse. Let them see both.
Imagine, if you're ancestors said that you wouldn't be here. just because they are in poverty now dosnt mean future generations wouldn't find solutions. I had those kind of thoughts but they're slowing changing now. You have to understand that you're not the sustainer of you're on existence let alone of others.
@ Life is durable enough. If only the well off had kids what a deprived world this would be; think about all the genius that's come from adverse upbringing (weigh that against what genius comes from the opposite end of that financial spectrum). It is not stupid to desire family when poor. Arguments for eugenics cloak themselves in pedestrian logic. It is okay to choose not to have kids too.
Kikuyu Kiiru Oh shut up. There are many black African doctors, lawyers, engineers, and Harvard graduates. Keep living in your fairy tale world, where white people are magically superior to everyone else. Imbecile.
I felt extremely uncomfortable with what the Swiss lady said.. You don't touch children? She kissed these kids! Fist time I see such a weird person.. Suspicious
Am I the only one who didn't find the Swiss lady kissing the kids odd? I just saw it as a motherly embracement kind of kiss. I think we should give people benefit of doubt and not jump to extreme conclusions.
Yeah I didn’t find it strange, she just seemed like a motherly woman who likes to see children. People are way to quick to assume the worst about people these days. In most countries a woman kissing a child on the forehead isn’t weird at all.
The effects of bad policy, such as colonialism, slavery, Apartheid etc, will continue to be felt. What amazes me is the people of affected populaces. They're awesome.
Stop judging the woman. In Europe it is perfectly normal to kiss people on the cheek. English is not her first language so saying that the Swiss can't touch kids was just a bad choice of words. What she meant was that in Europe, you can just take a group of strangers into a school and hug and take pictures of them. You saw how excited the kids were when they came in, how could anyone just give them a cold shoulder? I would hug them too if they wanted a hug. Liking children doesn't make you a pedophile. She is a mother, she has a maternal instinct.