From Luka Doncic to Nikola Jokic and Giannis Antetokounmpo, how are more and more Europeans finding success in the NBA and how FIBA plays a huge role into that success. European basketball 101.
Also, european players are used to make only 2 steps at most after a dribbling, so when they come to the nba and are allowed to make 3-4 or even 5 steps without a whistle, they can do pretty impressive things.
The stricter the rules, the better and more efficient you have to move. Europe’s players are much more fundamental and technical, there’s less ‘show’ than in the NBA. Not hating on the NBA, just pointing out a difference.
Basketball is a game of intense strategy. It's not about who is the highest jumper or fastest runner. But here in the U.S. coaches have lost sight of this over the years and built the NBA with super athletes. But this left the door open for decent athletes with high IQs to come in and disrupt things a bit.
The problem is lack of basketball culture in Europe. Lived in Spain for 2 years and park games were just leagues below skill wise to park games in the US. It's just not taken as seriously because of soccer.
Europe still allows players to play defense. So when Europeans get to the NBA, where nobody is allowed to touch eachother, it's like there is no defense.
Then why is everyone except Giannis so bad defensively? Luka sucks. Joker sucks. Vensenkov was Euroleague MVP and hes so bad defensively that Sacramento cant keep him on the floor. The court is smaller. There's no three second rule. The Euroleague is packed with no talent hacks barely making six figures that are willing to throw caution to the wind and bang it out down low. That's why defense is tougher over there.
@@mjwbulichDoncic in Real played more like a point forward, he would share the floor with two guards at the same time so he guard the opposing small forward in most of his time on the floor. Vesenkov was was always known for his slow feet even before he played in the euroleague. Olympiakos tried to help him by guarding players that were the least possible to beat him on the dribble but the Kings won't do such adjustments to help him out. About Antentokounmpo, you cannot really consider him a European player either by anchestry and by basketball upbringing. He played at the very low level before being drafted by the bucks. When he plays outside the NBA he sucks all the time. The best proof how the NBA sucks on defense is the recent world cup. In the NBA a guard lineup with Brunson and Edwards would dominate still the perimeter defence of the USA team was exposed so many times. The thing is that all you guys that make such comments you never watched anything else apart from the NBA, still you are making judgements
Why Europeans Are So Good At Basketball? Because the first thing they learn, is the most effective moves.. not dunks and 3's... you sacrifice for the team, not the other way around...
@@i_fuze_hostages6 The most effective way to score is finding the space to shoot an uncondensting shot. That requires passing the ball around, making screens, finding / creating the open opportunity etc. So Team work. ISO in Euroleague is not existing, you try to go one on one against the guy defending you, as soon as you get rid of him you will have someone like Tavares turning the lights out on you.
i don't think you're seeing this correctly. The dunks and 3s are the extremes in strategy. The most flashy, which sells a lot better. In the end without getting the fans all excited you don't make money, 3 pointers and dunks sell a lot of seats.
Its easy. European learn basketball through academy. They are trained and selected. In academy, they learn what is basketball through philosophical perspective, instead of just straight dunking on the street and trying to be selected into school program.
Yes but even 30 years ago the Europeans where trained that way. What happened is that in the last decade Americans are all-out in being physical athletic monsters and neglect the rest of the game. It is easy for well balanced Europeans to outperform these one pony trick americans
Even with all that, American players are still way better and that’s a fact. You don’t need an “academy” to learn the game of basketball. Take any high school kid right now, he could be good in the euro leagues.
In some European Countries Basketball is Viewed and Supported like Football Teams. Its a Real Crazy Atmosphere.( And very dangerous in some games between some teams,where Violence between supporters is guaranteed ).
@@tsunayoshisawada8062 Idk. Maybe switch it every year or something.🤷♂One year games are in US with US rules, next time, games are in Europe with Euro rules. I haven't really thought it through, just thought it would be cool.
It makes no sense. Where in the last world cup both Lithuania and Germany destroying USA - what's even the point? Number four team in the world (USA) vs the world? Are you mad? Aside from that.. If you pay top 24 ballers of the world 20 to50 million bucks each for a week of work, it could probably be done, provided you find a spot in the calendar. However, that spot will most likely be the one where the form curves of the players will be the lowest in the year. Money invested badly.
Well depending on perspective. At the same time the NBA became less physical and softer on defense. Euro league is closer to early 2000 NBA than the NBA itself. Back then Europeans where also more skilled but couldn't dominate because of the physicality
The biggest hurdle for most Asian players is size and athleticism. Thanks to European and NBA basketball trends towards "space and pace small ball style basketball", those problems aren't problems anymore. I predict an Asian draft pick someday soon lighting up the league with Steph like shooting from 3.
History doesn't repeat itself in sports. After this Olympics, the small ball will be dead and buried. The era of the giants has come. Nobody wants to watch weaklings jacking up 3s from their safe space. That is not what basketball is for.
But the players who are dominating the league right now would have huge size or extremely strong and quick or both. Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Embiid. Same with the next generation, Sengun, Anthony Edwards, Vic, Chet etc... Maybe there's hope from someone like Shai. Yet, the physical difference is not just in stature but also muscle, tendon, ligaments. Part of why Yao was so injury riddled was not just due to his height but also Asians have less bone, muscle density than other races. This puts more strain on their ligaments and tendons. No doubt this contributed to his injuries. Interestingly, I think where they might achieve breakthrough would be in women basketball.
There’s no college game, that’s why. They move up professional ranks at different levels. 16 year old usa athlete gets award a competition that’s selected down playing against amateurs/ 16 Europeans if they’re good enough play against professional adults at different levels of the pyramids. It’s also why we can throw 1 billion dollars at soccer here and not come up with a single top 100 football player.
@@ehrenthompson7891 Imagine if the (extremely talented) young players in the US would also get proper training and development instead of only focusing on individual skills. The US would again completely dominate the basketball world for decades. Greetings from Greece!
It's easy: Passion. If soccer wouldn't be so popular in South America you can BET they'll be as good as Europeans because they have passion. Basketball is played organized since 3yo and 4yo and we have passion in the blood, we live, breathe and give our life for our passion.
Thing you just said maybe has no sense. You worded that out in a way that it would seem basketball in Europe is bigger than soccer, and I believe that isn't the case. Soccer is the biggest sport in Europe.
it is a social thing,they do not want to be flagged as communists.Apart from making fun,if NBA is going to go like this,they might start considering keeping it to the US only as it is for Rugby and these american sports,otherwise they must call it something else.
Because we produce far more elite athletes. When you have elite individual players it is easier to build around that player vs to construct simply good team guys. It is difficult to win in the NBA with just good team guys. You need superstars more often than not to carry you over-- if you draft especially well, you can create a team like championship year Mavs who can get by with less overall talent with a perfectly oiled team of role players.
From what I'm hearing (as a person who don't know much about basketball). It sounds like you're saying: NBA is more technical whilst FIBA is more tactical as in: In Europe you need more understanding of the tactical parts and more team play mentality whilst in the NBA you need more individual skill and more of an egotistical mindset (I don't mean it in a bad way btw, both ways has it's pros and cons). Am I understanding you correctly?
Part is they took defense out of the game. In the 90s you weren’t allowed on the court if you couldn’t lock your man down. Rule changes and style of play changes mean it’s okay to get beat for 2 now if you get 3 on the other end. Change the rules back and bad defenders would disappear again. Steve Kerr was a guy that barely played because he couldn’t lock down. In todays game he would be a star
The way he described European basketball reminds me of my teams growing up as a little kid in America, which is funny because he said they were strong on fundamentals the way he described the NBA is basically every single black person I’ve ever seen play street ball at any park everstrong individual players that don’t know how to play as a team together. That’s really interesting.
I have seen a lot of Podcasts with the Wagner-Bros and they planned their career in an very early stage. Youth teams, Bundesliga, College and then NBA. They did get the fundamentals in Germany, the ISO-Play and Physics in College and the rest in NBA and National team. Perfect mix of both systems. BTW: When i saw in docs their training environment in Michigan it was much much better than any faculty in Europe. Even the best clubs did not have anything near this. So, BBall in Europe is still a developing sport.
Developing sport 😂 Basketball didn't start last year, when Germany took the first gold 😂 Prost 🍻 Read a little about the history of basketball in Europe, you will be surprised... 😁
As a European I’d guess more emphasis on team play and less on individuality. Individuality is usually only permitted in European sports as long as you still play the most effective. With a few notable exceptions like Ronaldo for example. In other words you won’t become a star if you don’t take back your ego for the best result
@mylesunion8413 yeah man a team that had Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brunson and Haliburton is somehow a C team, tell me another one I honestly believe the Americans are in for a rude awakening in the Olympics this year
We do not usually make sport only a spectacle, for this reason, players rarely seek to stand out from the rest of their teammates. The behaviors of American society are reflected in many arenas, including sports (including basketball), the behavior of Europeans is largely different, both in politics and economics and in sports.
They develops players the right way In Europe you are taught all of the skills on the court regardless of size. Guards learn to post up, big men learn to handle the ball, forwards learn to pass and so on. In the U.S. you can get pigeonholed into a position pretty early, especially if you are more mature physically at a young age and never learn other skills besides how to score near the hoop. Europe plays the game the right way. In Europe, the basketball system is fluid. They have the same rules, same courts, same lines, all year round. There isn’t a shot clock in some places and not in others (there is one everywhere, at every level). The three-point line doesn’t change. In the U.S., some states have shot clocks and some don’t. With rules changes between high school and AAU, it can take the focus off of on-court development. There aren’t as many parents who have an “ownership mentality” as can happen in AAU settings.
In short, players with Euro League experience are very skilled in the fundamentals of basketball. No wonder Giannis Antetokounmpo, Nikola Jokić and Victor Wembanyama are making most American-raised NBA players look totally silly unless the American player has ridiculous skills like LeBron James or Stephen Curry.
We Europeans are good at soccer and basketball because 1 we have coaches that are architects that build a strategy or plan of actionbefore the game, the coaches compliment a mentality and a plan of how players should play and players are disciplined to the plan that coach built and they use their minds for better decisions along with physical ability. But above all basket to a European is passion
One thing that contributes to the play style is entering the league so young. You are smaller and slower than older men you are playing against. This means the only way you are going to succeed is using the type of style Luca or Jokic has developed
Most of the Europeans that have gone to the NBA like Luka have been playing against adults since 16. You start learning a lot from veterans from a very young age.
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that's what I noticed...like for european center players, they develop other skills like passing and shooting unlike american centers who are only there to defend and dunking
Its vezenkov god damn, learn how to spell his name first and then talk about our piraeus legend, plus he doesnt take the minutes he deserves and to be honest i just want him to come back home so he get what he deserves where he is loved by everyone. Otherwise your comment its just stupid (with all the respect im just talking about your comment not you), there have been first round picks that were totally busts and they couldnt even play for a euroleague team, and some of them not even in eurocup.
I live in india and man basketball's situation is really bad here I'm not saying the players here are better than players in the nba or euro league but it would be good if we got a chance I'm sure there are many tournaments in india as well but the exposure is really bad The awareness is really bad It would be really good for the upcoming generation if this was looked upon
Americans dominate the Euroleague only in scoring numbers (and even that is not completely true) , that is not enough here. Without depth, strategy, team play and good defense you won't go far.
let me give a simple example of team defence ,if a player has a good right hand you deny him his good hand without whoring for the drive because in paint is always the big guy.
Europe gets better at US sports (Basketball and even slowly but surely American Football), while the US getting better and better in Association Football.
A lot of this is being part of the different culture of sports in europe. The system with several independant leagues all marketing themselves and the best teams competing in a european wide league is also found in football, handball, rugby, icehockey and other sports. Same for playing teenagers in top teams. That is not unusual in europe if the player has the talent. That is not something done deliberatly in order to develop basketball talent. That is just doing the thing sports teams in europe do for any sport.
you can see that from some quite time , USA national team struggle when they play top European nations like Spain France Serbia....and they don´t even win anymore
İf you score . You are good to go. We are seeing these in doncic or jokic. They arent fast or athletic . But they know how to use their height and body.
Basketball is a weird sport. With only five men on the court at once snd a pretty short court, a single player is worth more in basketball than in any other major team sport that I can think of. Consequently, the league collectively has bent over backwards to accommodate some of the laziest, most undisciplined players imaginable. Generally someone like Shaq who can’t be bothered to practice free throws is still worth so much that what can you do. So when someone comes along with next level gifts and who’s put in the time to really understand the game, he’s a force of nature.
I'll tell you why - because of social values. In europe, you have strong social structures, while the US is all about individualism. You can't win a team sport if everyone is playing for himself.
Euroleague is dominated by Americans. Last Time American won Euroleague MVP was in 2005. All Euroleague team: In last 11 years, out of 55 players, 6 were American. Total domination. The American with the most All Euroleage selections is langdon with 3.He also has one MVP. He is in 13th place.
Because they still playing real ball. Traditional basket ball. I don’t think they’re standing around like players in the basketball Stars game. Probably a bit more physical too.
imagine being good in a region where the rules are aplied, then going to somewhere where the rules doesn't mean shit and you get steroids and other PEDs on every hamburguer
Your not a the best player if your not the best on both ends of the court jokic and Luka good offensively defensively they are bad. Gianna’s Antetokounmpo is the best player he is great on both ends of the court. And he is a Nigerian born in Greece
Ok... Stopped at 0:06 You forgot a place called Spain. 3 NBA rings, twice WORLD CHAMPIONS and three silver Olympic medals (the second one, in 2008 blatantly a daylight robbery for Gold). I'll keep watching with an open mind; but it's not a good start. Mucho amor desde España. Edit at 9:54 ish... No it's not. The MAIN difference is the First Step Rule.. 13 times is too much. For an eleven points "victory". Sorry. Promise to drop it for good now. Big love from Spain
You have a couple of handfuls of really good ones in the U.S. and ya'll wanna act like they are taking over. Jokic and Luca are big ballers, Giannis, Porzingis, SGA and some others are fantastic, but pump your breaks. This is STILL America's game. I find it funny that you are choosing to ignore the plethora of ballers right here in the US. Everything in the media including on RU-vid is overblown.......
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