The fact he calls Cleo entitled for wanting to be treated with human decency is insane. L take. Cleo shouldn’t have accepted the late invite but she thought Ice was her “friend”, and after Ice said she would be taken care of just for it to be the opposite shows that Ice is fake. But its Cleo’s fault because she’s a “nobody”? Okay…
YES! I was flabbergasted at that I was like wtf, she’s still a human being and “that’s how it works.” And “this is an opportunity for you.” Is not an excuse, yes she was invited but she was given almost no notice and then treated like shit.
Your take on the Cleotrapa situation was not it 💀 “Ice invited her she doesn’t have to be there” like that’s not an excuse to treat her poorly. I was very disappointed to find out how ice spice treated Cleo on tour, bc I supported Ice even went to her concert. Ice spice should not have invited her if she/ her team couldn’t accommodate her it’s missed up edit: messed up*
He probably finds Ice Spice attractive. People tend to give more leeway to people they find attractive. (Not discrediting the colorism point either, I just don’t feel it’s my place to say as a white person)
Ice reached out to Cleo and Cleo asked her specifically if she needed to cover anything for the tour, and Ice said, “Don’t worry about it. You’re with me. You’re good.” If someone says that to me, I’ll still bring discretionary funds, but I’m expecting not to have to cover for room and board at the very least. And I didn’t see anything in Cleo’s original series where Ice texted her about paying for her own room. That was supposed to be covered by Ice! “You’re with meeee!”
the way you sticking up for ice spice ab the cleo situation is crazy😂😂 if thats ur bestfriend, not just a business partner, i would definitely feel some type of way bc SHE MY BESTFRIEND LETTING ME BE TREATED LIKE THIS! you love you some ice spice😂😂😂
In what way is he sticking up for Ice anywhere in this video? He full on hated on her throughout the whole video biased asf and talking about she can’t rap when none of y’all are qualified to say another rapper who makes more money and music than y’all have ever put out is trash. Y’all can’t talk.
@@JohnGalt916Ice spice said Cleo would be taken care of. Cleo literally explained this already. If Ice would have told Cleo she wouldnt be taken care then she would have made preparations with her label beforehand
Exactly. I wouldn’t even call it a “girl thing” to understand where she’s coming from. I do think there is SOME entitlement to her points, but I also see where she’s coming from because they’re supposed to be friends.
For real, either he colorist himself or he doesn’t understand common courtesy. I am starting to think if Nikki did this to Ice, he would somehow understand…
your take on the cleo situation is so objectively wrong it hurts😭 bc if her BEST FRIEND invited her on tour last minute which she first declined until HER BEST FRIEND said “don’t worry i got you” just to turn around and in fact NOT having her, is crazy.
Were they actually best friends tho? My understanding is that theyre just friends n both happen to rap. I didn't think they were actually close or long time friends etc.
@@pocketlinttreasures33 Yeah Cleo said they weren't close at all; only friends for two years. But she still treated ice spice like a friend. Unfortunately, Ice didn't do the same
You were eating with the video till it got to Cleo tbh. Just because she’s a small artist doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve to be treated like a human being, especially from a friend. By the way it was shown that Cleo asked if she would need to bring/do/check anything before she came on tour since it was so last minute but Ice Spice said she’d take care of everything and not take care of it. So for you to call her entitled when she had reasonable expectations to have basic accommodations is really gross.
@@HYextraif you did, then you lack basic comprehension skills. To come to the conclusion that cleo was entitled after being told she was going to be taken care of during the tour is bizarre. To disregard the way cleo was treated throughout the entire tour and STILL say she is entitled is bizarre! Like ur weird for even being able to think of that. It wouldve been a better look if you said you didnt watch all of it because only then your conclusion would make sense! We all watched that video, for u to somehow end to that conclusion just shows how you think of urself. U will allow urself to be disrespected all bc someone bigger gave u a crumb of attention. Food for thought
Cleo was ice’s friend, she shouldn’t have been treated like a stray. Ice told her she would be taken care of and didn’t need to plan anything. It was very last minute and why should she not have her own room. Don’t bring someone on tour and give them false promises if you’re not going to look after them.
Yeah that Cleo take was a mad L take. Even beyond being treated as an artist, but just basic human decency. Even with basic accommodations like room and board was promised and then denied. That’s not entitlement, and dude this feels hella tone deaf to call her entitled
Nah Cleo got done dirty ice asked her to go on tour with her this ridiculous nonsense of she should be grateful too be treated badly isn't part of the deal only us black people dog each other out then got the nerve to talk about Caucasian people do something towards us it's racist ice invited her last minute do right by her
Clock it! Bc for him to hear the entire story on how cleo was treated below human, and still come to the conclusion that he came to just shows how he views her. Maybe even views blk women but idk i might be reaching. To tolerate top tier disrespect all bc u are a small artist and have no listeners is the most bizarre statement i have ever heard from someone in my life💀
Bro ngl I mess yo content nd knowing yu make crazy takes on situations,but when the Cleo part was outrageous yo bc she deadass declined w going w spice nd ice told her to come nd be taken care of…yo low level of thinking is crazy
I was with you until your take on Cleo. That wasn't it. She was told by Spice that she'd be taken care of, doesn't matter if she's 'somebody' or not, friends don't treat each other like that. Ice told her specifically she'd be rooming with her, getting everything she gets, etc. Also opening acts don't start before the show, they're not 'pre show' acts, they're *opening*, meaning the start of the show. Like why would she invite her and then treat her like that?
😂nah same he's lame asf to me now, I used to like his content. And he's doubling down in the comments confirming he. indeed watched all of Cleo's videos. Thats even crazier bruh, EW
I see where you're coming from, but Cleo and Ice were supposed to be friends. Like Cleo isn't some aquaintence. As a girl if my close friend say"s I got you you're gonna be with me" it would be implied that I'd be taken care of at least to some degree, Not treated me like a distant aquiantence. And just because Cleo got an amazing opportunity doesn't mean she should be okay with being treated badly. But I appreciate hearing a different perspective since I've never thought of their situation in that way.
The producer and the Director of the Barbie film already spoke out how they wanted Nicki for this movie years ago. Why in the hell would a billion dollar franchise invest in a new artist like ice spice who only charted because of her collaborations and hasn’t proven herself as an legitimate artist, she wasn’t even at the premiere of the film… it doesn’t even make sense. Be for real! Nicki wanted publishing for the collaboration because without Nicki being on the song, it wouldn’t have gone anywhere. The Taylor Swift collaboration did nothing for Ice! The Swifties wasn’t supporting her. 😂
bro when they say what time the show starts that literally means that’s when people are supposed to be getting on stage. they did her dirty by putting her on stage before it was even advertised for people to be gettin on stage. when the show starts that’s literally the first act even if it’s just the dj. prior to an actual dj getting on stage, the venue is just playing random music. have you ever been to a show before ?? from doors opening til finish??
kinda but no it's supposed to be an aged up annie from the movie because the movie has a song called tomorrow and she has a song named tomorrow out with another rapper named glorilla
Imthis was background noise until your Cleotrappa take. I had to check what i was watching because this is the first time ive seen someone grossly misinterpret the entire situation. Still time to edit this
Hey hey, maybe don’t support a colorist? What a way to put down Cleo, she has talent and was a last minute addition who was pulled in by ice spice telling her “ oh, don’t worry about it you’re with me everything will be good. Everything is taken care of.” She didn’t wanna go at first she said she had her own things to do. But she took the opportunity for the friend. I may be mistaken, but I believe it was unpaid. Then you expect her to go throughout this entire show and be treated like shit and just be OK with that., plus there was multiple accounts unsubstantiated, though that she was being talked about behind her back and ice spice seemed to be using colorist remarks, being a smaller act, does not give anyone the right to treat you like that, she is still a fellow human.
How was Cleo supposed to take her bag with her while she performed? She was alone, there was no one to watch it for her. It’s not wrong to expect her belongings to be safe in the touring artists room. Was she supposed to have her bag beside the mic stand?
“ a Ki” means “goofy” “funny” “latest gossip” “fake news” those kind of things And I think you’re missing one thing about the cleotrapa situation is that ice spice always had that girl front row and center with her
Cleo and Ice werent strangers tho, that was her real friend who, instead of introducing her to the game, was trying to set her up for failure. Cleo is venting about the “little things” that a real friend wouldnt make her go thru. Cleo built different bc a lot of ppl would’ve just left
First time viewer. You uploaded this 5 hours ago and you didn’t hear the majority rule that Ice was for treating Cleo that way….. seriously?!!!! Entitled? You’re not that smart. Also the bag situation, it’s understandable that she wouldn’t want to carry her bag with fans going nuts around her. It’s a safety issue. Also if fans want pics it’s lame to be carrying the bag. You’re the problem and channel gets nothing but the side eye from me
Agree with all of this except the majority rule part, herd mentality is lame af because it's possible for many people to be wrong at once. One shouldn't be EXPECTED to agree because of the majority, that's bot ish
I’m sorry. I’m new im one of the girls who’ll disagree but can you tell me how can she be grateful when she didn’t even receive what she was promised for? Ya know. A room, FOOD…the girl was starving. As someone who isn’t famous but I did move around for beauty pageants when I was like pre teen or a teenager and stuff and yes it’s nerve wracking. When I tell you I would’ve had a mental breakdown for not being able to HAVE BASIC FOOD knowing someone went to a steakhouse?? To have my “friend” be treated better than me, and then her acting like I’m the problem when SHE asked me to be there? Cleo didn’t want to be there. Cleo wasn’t PAID to be there. I’d like for you to do this for free. To miss out on money opportunities because of some publicity opportunity only to be put in where people will hardly see you. To be promised a room, food, basic necessities, only to be not only treated as if YOU are crazy for assuming that it was handled (when it said it would be) but the only person who respects you…shouldn’t respect you because your best friend is mad at that? Yeah…no no not a good take at all… I hope you read all that because in all honesty to wrap it all up I genuinely started to believe you was riding ice spice because of her looks because Cleo wasn’t even treated like the human she is. Ice spice gets millions, billions even. And can’t even give her a chicken salad that cost like l, what? 12$ 😭
She did not call her the princess of rap 😂 she called her the peoples princess. She was just saying people loved her....which i dont believe she was the people princess either but i get it. She had a lot of hype for some time. Glad her time seems to be coming to an end. Don't want her to fail, but want her out of the music conversation. Maybe an OF career?
you definitely dropped the ball with the cleo points. cleo is literally coming from the standpoint of her friend Ice spice told her she got her and shes with her before she came on tour. she told Ice spice does she need to contact her team to handle anything on this tour. Ice spice said no girl i got you. That deads everything.
This was enlightening. Your relationships are a mirror to who you are. Most people don’t know what’s unattractive about them until they starting getting those ugly reflections
I ain’t gonna even lie I feel like Nicki only chooses girls who’s up and coming and can’t rap better than her so there’s no competition but that’s me😀🤷🏿♀️
100% i would treat my friend better than how ice spice did. status is irrelevant when it comes to friendship, we all eatin especially if i invited you😂
Your Cleo take was so infuriating because if Nikki had done the same thing to Ice, you would be on team Ice and all of a sudden “oh I understand how common courtesy work”. It’s always the colorists that don’t catch their biases that piss me off. My guy what Ice did here was hater shit, no real humans would act like that unless they don’t like you or they’re super stingy. And no one likes a cheap stingy friend who can throw money at anyone but they’re friends.
Responding to someone being called out for rape by saying “the one with a Grammy” is the corniest thing I’ve ever seen. This just proves how little mfs in the industry care when women do it.
Yoooo, dude was screaming at cleo like she there. Like damn. You can her the anger in his voice. Never heard dude so angry. Even Akademiks was neutral.😂
Your take on how Cleo was treated made me physically sick. I understand that maybe it’s common place to treat people in the industry, INCLUDING friends like actual dog shit but that doesn’t mean that’s the way it SHOULD be. The fact that you really said “she’s a nobody” like because she’s not as popular yet means she doesn’t deserve any consideration or support at all is DEPLORABLE. It’s always hard to see the degree to which humanity has descended as far how poorly we view and treat OTHER HUMANS and pretty much this entire video was an attack on my faith in humanity. Please be better. Go read the Bible or something. Cleo was treated like pure hot garbage, not as a friend or a guest. I didn’t expect Spice to consider her at ALL the turns she mentioned either BUT overall Cleo was treated poorly which exaggerated the minor events. Yeah… be better sir.
I’ll always appreciate a RU-vidr posting longer content over these lazy content creators who talk for 2 minutes and post an hour long IG live, so thank you 😅
tbh that cleo take gotta b the whackest ive heard, how's she entitled for wanting to be treated w human decency, bro was starved, isolated and embarrassed repeatedly, but its alright cus shes a *nobody"..? 😭😭
Cloe and a dj on the tour says it was treated badly. Like legit getting mad because an 8 yr old asked for a slice of pizza who was with cloe team when there were 18 boxes. Everyone one else can't always be the problem, you soundlike you talking out your @$$
Ice violated Cleo imo she could've did a better job getting cleo into the mix and they starved her and her team on the tour that's foul 😒 and even ices stylist backed her up along with cleos Dj
“The people’s princess” is not the princess of rap title it’s a title that was on a magazine cover that Ice did. Nicki was just referencing it jeez. Also, OBVIOUSLY! Ice meant when she first seen Nicki as a child. Nicki has been in this business for 17 years. Ice is 24. Why would she idolize Cardi B?
If Nikki was so concerned she would have had Ice sign an NDA before even engaging in business talks with her. I think it’s unrealistic to not expect Ice to talk @her age…
The Barbie company already said they offered Nicki the song for the Barbie soundtrack 1st she said no so they got ice spice so she could get nick on it
"Ice spice shouldn't have invited her if she couldn't accommodate her" wasn't Cleo aware it was last minute, she probably thought she was gon be on the budget, thats why she was triggered by everything She probably also thought even if I'm not on the budget, my friend got me iono, thats where the sense of entitlement comes from You could always just talk things out with your friend then thug it out instead of this BS she went on She just tryna get clout