Why Everyone Hated Battlefield 5 

I'm still not sure why a lot of people didn't like infinite warfare it had a good campaign and an unique thematic and i get why there's a woman it could be a woman trying to help his country with blitzkrieg and there were few military women in ww1 so it's not completely bad that hand replacement is unrealistic for that time and we didn't even get a lot of the things in that trailer

I just subscribed. It’s not crap

The messaging was horrible. They're hoping to catch hardcore fans' nostalgia of BF 1942 but peppered BFV's trailer with microtransanction elements. Fans see and treat BF games as one giant sandbox for them to fool around in. The reveal trailer and EA's plan treat BFV as one big giant wardrobe. Throwing a tank into air to shoot down a plane is a fun thing to attempt by everyone even if it failed. Flashy costumes or vanity items mean either endless grind or whipping out your credit card.

Many of those who you were saying “DIDNT mind women in battlefield, it’s just tha-“ Nah bro. I’ve spent enough time around reactionaries to know what a fuckin dog whistle is. You even showed The Quartering for fucks sake. If the issue that sparked it all was truly one Reddit comment and a 9 second clip, then it wouldn’t actually have dented the release. You have dudes commit sexual assault and still have their media properties release to astounding success while their fans harass their potential victims to insane degrees. Gaming has had a real problem with really shitty dudes that have a knee jerk aggressive reaction to anything a woman says or does that’s even slightly cringey. They don’t see women as people, but rather these strictly ‘one thing or another’ kind of things- they’re either “one of us” or “screaming blue haired woke cringe wamen.” I’m decently sure that you are arguing in good faith, because the tone in your voice seems to give off some sincerity. A good chunk of the dudes that bitched about this were angry that there was a woman, but wanted to wait for the first excuse they could find to bitch-bemoan-gripe and harass. These same people bitch to no end about cancel culture, but happily participate in it any chance something is ‘left’ of McCarthyism.

BF5 failed because of gameplay. Only nerds cared about the launch trailer and comments made from dice

EA: *Surprised Pikachu Face*

EA: I can't believe you've done this.

EA: wait you're not supposed to do that

Xbox game pass: i.... Don't understand

Gamers: Bought it anyway (as usual)

Seriously. Who gives a shit if girls feel included in video games! Go men!!!

@@imorokr ??? That isn't what he was saying at all

Don't say politically correct statement when you there is nothing INCOREECT about

@@XxXIRoGuEIxX i know. I'm agreeing! I'm saying I recognize this Norwegian's feelings and saying girl's feelings suck and are dumb and just kinda icky nd shit. Always wanting to be included in fun shit, you know

@@imorokr go a bit lighter with the bait, you're pushing it too hard, exclamation marks also don't help. And in the sad case you're not baiting then idk what to tell you.

What a lazy answer. “Because you are a girl” Dice could at least add a theatre where women were really out there. BF1 did I right with the DLC.

nArAtIvE

@@ensignd.crexote5350 Would've loved to play as the Soviets or any of the resistance groups such as the Polish or French where women actually fought on the front lines.

@@rejectedkermit1220 go play BF1. That did not miss with that DLC I tell you. Extraordinary

Can’t have wahmen in ma vidya games! Too unrealistic while I play ma totally real vidya game!

Are they tho?

Yup

@@Savenya_Amari yes they are. They burnt their loyal player base from before BFBC and grew through those games and stayed loyal through the joke that was BF4 and who supported it with the CTE to fix it and premium to pay for it. Why do you think they made 2042 now after all this “woke” bullshit when people have been asking for it since BF4?

I think their troubles with the community truly started with Star Wars battlefront. It's a shame that they also failed that launch because Star wars battlefront 2 is an amazing game in its current state.

It's true though

It's not even an appeal to morality. Everyone knows that the victor writes history. They think they're going to "conquer" their opponents, not win it through a morally superior position.

@@diogenes8272 history is written by the historian, which can be the victor, loser or neutral, although I agree that they are just stupid for saying that.

@@nikolairostov3326 but no one is going to believe the historian who lost.

@@ajb6359 German WW2 history is written by losers, it’s believed by most, it is incorrect and biased.

@@nikolairostov3326 Yeah, no it's really not. German WW2 history is written by a collection of Americans, British and Soviets, aka the victors of WW2. Just like all wars since forever, the history that is accepted is the one that fits the victor's narrative, for an entire plethora of reasons. You're not going to sail very far as an academic if you don't take curriculum at face value, similarly you're not going to sell many books either.

lol

Yep

Well, at least the controversies with BF2042 were strictly gameplay related, not this dumb shit

@@lemomannmusicproductions4074 the gameplay is all that matters to me, BFV had and still has better gameplay than 2042 since day 1

@@eddielombera5862 bf5 balancing and post launch support was abysmal. 2042 will be the better game

What they did was they added women to the game. And some other ethnicities. Battlefield has never been about historical accuracy, it's about big explosions and killing damn near everyone you can, who the fuck cares if there's a woman in it? Like, seriously? You all passed up a potentially amazing experience because someone had a vagina? Gamers, man. Wild.

@@ijnyamato643 . How about people weren't the slightest bit interested in social politics. And told them to shove it up their arse and kept their money instead.

@@ijnyamato643 i very much so agree it was a fun game, i have every gun and many hours in it, however i also respect history and when dice just told us to not buy it it was just another just kick in the balls

@@ijnyamato643 If a Developer made a game about the American Revolution, you would probably buy it if they slapped a vagina on George Washington. The Indoctrinated, man. Wild.

Social politics I don't agree with*

Do you care to explain? Games SHOULD prioritize fun over realism. Game like MW could be the most realistic shooter ever, but it doesn’t matter, because the gameplay is straight trash

@@howdoichangemyusername9802 you’ve misunderstood my comment. I’m pointing out how the staff are confusing authenticity with realism. The gameplay has never been realistic but the setting should feel authentic which BFV completely missed out on. MW is a good example of an authentic feel/setting despite arcade gameplay.

@@CalDal_22 but MW has anime skins and pink tracers. You wouldn’t call that authentic.

@@howdoichangemyusername9802 thats months after release I haven't played it in a long time, but the base game and single player was.

@@CalDal_22 I don’t know why people make such a big deal over accuracy anyway. No one that actually enjoys games cares. If you want accuracy watch a documentary. Games are made for fun, not realism.

yea when 1 guy makes a statement that makes the stock market drop your companies stock 13+% in ONE day ... your career is over.

Good. He legit pissed me off, it's one thing to want to test shit out, I don't blame them, but then "don't like it, don't buy it" or that disaster of a press conference they held afterwards making fun of the community. It was such a fuckup I'm glad he's gone, you have to be really stupid to not see what the community wants

Don't forget he also took a couple mill with him to resign as well.

*Good Ending*

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, she can play MGS:R

@@lemomannmusicproductions4074 lmao

Daughter: Daddy, I can't empathize with people that don't look like me, not even you, so put vagines like me in your game, because vagines are important! Dad: Of course Lisa, everything for you my queen, you can have everything you want at any time, because it's all about you. *man I'm the best parent ever*

I agree, I would say that artistic direction is what makes a "realistic" WWII game, not gameplay, if a game is made to look like what we are used to see in other media depictions of WWII it will sound familiar to what we know/take as history, and as a consequence, look/feel realistic and historically accurate.

Truths has never been that spoken

@@FRGBlackBurn Exactly dude, people just defend these ww2 trash games by literally saying "Let alone, you don't respawn in real life too" People seems to forgot what actually a good representation of a world war game was. Medal of honors, Battlefield 1942, Cod 1 to Cod waw literally is all the things you said. And if someone say this are old games by past gens so it doesn't apply to nowadays, well if they want a modern game with a good representation of a world war then just look at Battlefield 1, Hell let loose and etc. People are so stupid nowadays

So true

Wow. That brings back memories... "Which do you think is more important, writing about it"! "No one will ever read this"! Later scene "Someone should read this...."

I dont think that "everyone" wanted it, some of them might just didnt wanted to stop because... well being cancelled or something like that

@@laszlohrabovszky2489 yeah, they were probably scared of backlash at their company too, so they didn't speak up.

Because they thought it looked a bit like Fortnite and they thought they’d be able to sell lots of skins.

This was when Fortnite was making billions.

​@@jackcole2628 BF1's trailer was universally loved why coudn't they just make something like that? Not to mention, actual gameplay of BFV feels nothing like that so I don't understand why this trailer

That’s a good idea. I wouldn’t mind a CoD taking a page from Wolfenstein. They could also take some reference from Man in the High Castle. Go crazy with all kinds of wacky shit with a WW2 theme

Why'd you have to add people of color and woman.

@@sheeeeeesh3622 apparently all games nowadays have to fit these standards. It's just ridiculous. I think they have done more wrong than right by having forced diversity, because more and more people have radicalised as a consequence. Where in the past, they wouldn't even have turned their heads.

@@dimeterchevaeros8480 Well I understand your point and you are correct, but at what point is it normal to see those characters in a game, and not see it as forced diversity. Well except the fact that BFV has women in the war, which makes absolutely no sense.

This comment is the same, word for word, to what I always say when talking about vanguard ( sorry for the shitty english i am spanish )

You sum it up perfectly.

@@DriZzlingBeAr :)

Couldn't agree more

You right.. 80% of a war is boring af

It wasnt about realism it was about having that stupid narrative mocked by a CEO . All the people that cried about that guy bought cheats and 'got gud' at Warzone .

I actually met a guy playing battlefield 1 and he gave me a key for V, turns out he's a back-end developer at Dice and worked on V, when I asked him about the trailer and his opinion overall he admitted that putting women everywhere in the game was a massive mistake and the reveal trailer pissed a lot of people off in the dev team but they wouldn't dare speak out against the corporate political machine in place.

@@deluxgamer999 because the corporate machine do not play these games. At all. They browse Twitter and news networks on political problems that are happening and they tell the dev teams, “this is it”.

@@Barrett_z33 It all comes from modern western universities ultimately.

@@deluxgamer999 If they had simply let you play a woman in some historically representative campaign episode and added the option to play as a woman in the multiplayer (potentially only on maps where that happened). And not lectured potential customers on historical accuracy (while disregarding it themselves) and insinuated the potential customers were bad people (while proving themselves to be). The debacle might not have happened or at least been a lot smaller. But noooo.... They had to shove women in and virtue signal about it. Apparently you can only be good, if you simultaneously brag about how good you are.

Interesting point, thanks for that

@@diehardGG thats my case too you're doing a good job, keep it up!

@@diehardGG Hey man, I only recently got into Battlefield and found your channel. Subscribed immediately after 1 or 2 videos because I felt your videos were helpful and engaging. I'm glad I found your channel, can't wait for future videos!

@@diartay5374 Should have one ready for tomorrow!

@@diehardGG Damn man, I didn't realise you'd reply. I was more hoping you'd see the noti come through and appreciate it. Looking forward to the vid!

Ah ah ah! Good one! 2042...historically accurate...in 2021. Ah, ah , ah! Very good Sir!

This is a joke right?

You mean "futuristically accurate" ??

Yeah, DICE have a fucking time machine to know how things are in the year of 2042.

AlienPls3

Yeah I don't think there's anything really political about BF2042, but I have seen some people comment about why is it always the US vs Russia, and where's China, etc

@@diehardGG BFV wasn't even political. The choices they made were purely creative. They were trying to make something people haven't seen before. Hard to understand if you're not an artist.

@UCCDknjWPxj8NkdJc-WIlK4w Thats completely wrong, they literally said they were making it accurate but in World War 2 women weren’t on the front lines. Then the developers said they were going to be on the right side of history because they chose inclusivity over realism. Shoving modern values down someone’s throat isn’t unique or good, it’s just annoying. When a “realistic” ww2 game allows you to be a black female nazi there’s something wrong. Also the trailer is not realistic at all with a British woman with a prosthetic arm using a barbed wire cricket bat. Also you seem pretentious as fuck with that last thing about being an artist, shut the fuck up.

@@unrulymarine6769 Where did they say that then lol. You're choosing to perceive it as them "shoving modern values down your throat" when in reality, from their perspective, it was but a mere artistic choice that had the inherent benefit of representation. Your emotions are clouding your judgement lol. It's just a videogame. Battlefield has never been a truly realistic war game like ARMA or any assortment of indie milsim games. It's always existed within its own universe and has always played by it's own rules. And how is that pretentious LOL. Developers are artists, and they have the right to make what they desire to make because they're the ones actually putting in the work to make it, not you. If you don't like it, don't buy it and stop hating. Stop being a selfish, entitled American consumer. They're not robots that solely exist to serve you, they're people with their own perspective, ideas, desires and beliefs too.

@@avteur Lol... "hard to understand if you're not an artist." And I guess you are an artist. Why? Because of the videos you make? I draw and I also used to make good money with it, but I wouldn't call myself an artist just because of that. "something ppl haven't seen before"... What exactly would that be? Honestly, explain that to me. And don't try "aww you wouldn't understand" because that would show that you yourself don't know. Game developers make games for money. Sorry if you truly believe otherwise. If they were so convinced of what they believe, why change that with the next game? Why not double down and show all those haters how awesome their believes and convictions are, like a true "avant garde" and "je ne sais quoi" - artist who gives a damn about other ppls opinions? The gaming industry is well past the time of just being a place for creative dreamers. In fact those with passion and creativity are being worked like slaves and end up quitting totally exhausted. Look at EA, Activision Blizzard, CD Project and even Paradox... they are all accused of mistreating their employees. Its the shareholders and CEOs who are calling the shots. And they definitely HATE it when games don't sell. They don't give a rats ass about "creative decisions". And that's the reason why BF2042 has nothing in it that could jeapordize the game's success. DICE is one misstep away from being closed down because of BFV. Don't believe it? Check out all the other actually good development teams that were closed down by EA just because of ONE failure. It's not about making a lot of money nowadays... it's about ALWAYS making ALL the money. You don't like it? Don't buy their games.

Your English was great

@@diehardGG thank you man. Love youre videos. I mainly speak Afrikaans( South Africa ) and Im not really the best at english, but I do appreciate youre kindness.

@@hanubrandt4359 I’ve heard native English speakers that aren’t as good as you

Its not even accurate on vanguard

@@AB-fr2ei but better than BFV.

I’m actually surprised someone covered this without the whole “they hate women” bull crap.

@@Alecxace yeah, that was really disappointing to watch as it unfolded....

​@@Alecxace I mean, this was also in the wake of things like Gamergate. While "they hate woman" certainly isn't the full story, claiming it didn't play a substantial part is idiotic.

@@swapode gamergate was 2014-2015, this game launched in 2018. The people that buy Battlefield did not give a shit and still don't give a shit. the horrible trailer (with arguments against the prosthetic arm lady) and the absolutely horrid response to fans led to the sales bombing in the first few months and the game going on sale. I'd argue telling the core audience "if you don't like it, don't buy it", "get educated" did far more damage. It also doesn't help that DICE/EA has serious issues when launching a new title. Also, notice no-one cares that women or non-binary persons are in BF2042. The major issue even there is that the launch is once again a disaster.

​ @Alecxace ​ Ah yes, let's pretend that EA's (admittedly poor) take wasn't a direct response to tens of thousands of misogynistic comments. And let's pretend that the wave GamerGate brought to light just disappeared in 2015 and isn't an ongoing thing. While we're at it, we can also pretend like GamerGate was about ethics in gaming journalism. If we pretend enough it certainly will become a worthy cause.

The cosmetics irk the shit out of me too, it makes me put the game down sometimes

The thing is the cosmetics don't really bother me unless I get killed by someone running a legendary skin in the wrong front ex: The German legendary skin with the white mask on a Pacific War map it just kinda takes me out of it. Other than that the game is decent & the gunplay is addictive, don't really side with the people who say the game is absolute dogshit because that's an overexaggeration imo.

@@IamtheDesperado the japanese elite skins are cool for me, but that grandpa with blue cape, or the guy that looks like he is a part of biker gangs really make me feel weird

@@lel9422 I like the American paratrooper elite skin too

Yeah I heard quite a few norwegian people were upset by that mission. The real story is super interesting too

Right?! I feel like many have the comprehension of a 5 year old

That was how they did it from the very beginning. Have you even played the fucking game? The compromise is admitting that it’s not historically accurate but allowing you to do that.

@@zqplyn-r6648 it does not matter if it is historical accurate because it is a video game you should read a book not play a video game if you want to learn about history

@@Vastilious the problem was that the developers double downed on it being historically accurate. They could have admitted it was for the sake of diversity and customization, but they claimed it was completely accurate.

@@zqplyn-r6648 do you really need to be this upset over them thinking that it is historically accurate?

@@Zen-rw2fz Yes because it is disrespectful to the people who fought and died in WW2 and people creating popular media set in the conflict should at the very least admit the inclusivity isn’t historically instead of doubling down and rewriting history.

Yes yes 👍👍

So women should have only been in the game as snipers only and pilots?

@@brutuslugo3969 No. I meant women should be in the combat roles they were in during the war. Resistance fighters were women too. I would love to see that as well.

@@CyanTygerTTV Why should they be limited to that when its a game?

@@sagephil because of historical accuracy

I'm not so sure that not wanting political statements in your escapism pieces would be considered being non-sensible. Video games, at their core, are an escape, and MANY people don't appreciate modern politics to be shoe-horned into their escapes. One of the purposes of an escape piece is to not think about nor worry about current politics and social issues. Especially if the game itself is outright not about modern issues. No one buys a WWII game and expects to have modern politics thrown into it, which they CLEARLY did, that isn't debatable. He even stated as such, that doing this would "be a fight", as in fighting the audience that he knew he would upset by shoe-horning in his personal politics and beliefs. Do not call those who want proper escapes non-sensible, that is very sensible, and realistic. What you just said is identical to what the ex-EA Chief Creative Officer said. He called those who are upset "uneducated", and you call them "not sensible". Good thing you aren't in a high position like his, you'd get fired just like him lmao.

The best gunplay of all time! I blame the community for the toxic vibe around the game. I just played 4 days of BF2042 beta, BF5 looks like a masterpiece..

a shame the reveal trailer (rightly) turned everyone off

@@JOE_XD nothing wrong with people who like and play it, but if I, a history nerd, see a game that is supposedly about ww2, then I will expect a game with some realism about ww2 Games would be bad if they had 100% realism, there would be no fun in playing something like that, but at the same time that also doesn't mean that realism should be thrown out of the window. That's basically what bf5 did... Bf1 is an example to follow. The amount of realism that they put into it is in harmony with the player being able to have fun. That's why people like me loved it

@@joaomarcelo7708 Get over it!

@@joaomarcelo7708 There was a bad ''buzz'' around BF5, that's it...

Now that you mention this, it did shattered my memories as well. This was around 5 years after joining BF community and i still remember i was having fun. Heck, even BF1 gave me a lot of memories. Ever since BFV, it just gone or at least feels like gone. I just don't have any memorable moments in post-BFV. I just hope BF2042 will come back we all love and move on from it.

I don’t even think it’s a civil war or things, Dice and EA just started to stray from what made battlefield Battlefield. I couldn’t even put 100 hour into BF1, it left a bad taste in my mouth, but I’m still playing BF4 to this day making amazing memories and having fun. I feel the biggest mistake they made was server hosting, server administration, and Battlelog going away. The social aspects of the game in the past created communities that let players play their way, and ever since BF1 it’s just not been remotely close to what we had in all the previous games. Clans, competitive, pistols only, tons of fun stuff. I don’t even know if they have that in BF1 or BFV, I never cared to check after I played BF1 at launch and saw BFV was just a BF1 reskin for WW2 without the 1942 cool bits. Basically I feel dice removed the battlefield from Battlefield, they removed the sandbox fun, cut game communities out, went with historical era stuff when they did way better with modern, did it twice in a row, and then got controversial. I pray BF2042 picks up where BF4 left off, with gameplay that keeps me coming back without worrying about content. BF1 and BFV needed “content” as a crutch, many of us still play BF4 original maps to this day for thousands of hours, it’s not a lack of content, it’s a lack of a good game period.

This… didn’t age well…

Yikes

@@MozambiqueEnjoyer6097 Yeah i remember it was quite bad when it came out.

Nope, fuck that SJW shit. It has slowly become a standard for every single game and I don't support it in any way. They'll just have to do without my money then. Fortunately there are still Japanese developers...

yeah, bought it on sale a week ago it's a fun game doesn'y have some things which were in bf1 like bayonet charge or horses but it's still a fun game the only real problem i had was that there isn't any russian faction or ussr faction, would've love to play as the reds.

@@nimanp-cy4rh it does have bayonet charge

@@yngwok2839 well then i didn'tpay enough attention.

Agreed

Main problem with me was then Changing the TTK after that it just didn’t feel right

I didn’t even bother buying it, I disliked BF1, battlefront was a flop, and overall the gameplay itself along with the drama just made me say no. Still playing BF4 to this day and have no desire to touch V.

@@ApolloTheDerg battlefront didn't flop launch yes but over 2 years of support it was getting shit ton of good content it was getting alot of people to play the game until at April of 2020 they stop supporting it cas they took the team to make the new battlefield

@@stiffplaysgames9999 You say that but it strayed from so many of its original aspects many of us including me didn’t give it a chance, it’s dead basically. The OG Battlefronts where closer to battlefield than the new ones made by Dice are, and that’s probably the biggest boner killer to me. Maybe it’s “good” now, I didn’t have a good taste in my mouth with the last one and I have little reason to buy it now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They goal should be aesthetics (how the game looks and sounds) are as realistic as possible, while the gameplay can take serious liberties with realism. That was the formula from Battlefield 1942 - Battlefield 1 (with small annoying exceptions like Battlefield 4 allowing you to put Pinkie Pie on your parachute or the black German Scout in Battlefield 1), and its what works best.

I should add I mean "small" in the scope of the series. Battlefield 4 really, really annoyed me with how goofy it could become due to the customizable camo and emblems everywhere. Battlefield 1 still had those things, but the default was always something realistic.

Yes. The Germans need more humanization.

Every battle field game is buggy at launch it will get patched

I prefer Battlefield 1's campaign though. It was something different, and a hell of a lot of fun to play. I greatly appreciate the amount of love put into them. But for Battlefield 5... yeah. It took forever for me to beat that dumb chapter on Norway. It was just so fucking boring! Thank God multiplayer kinda saved it

I still feel like Dice could kinda save bf2042 in the coming future, i mean let's take bf4 for example. As long as they change the core gameplay and add new free maps with better core gameplay or just add complete customization with portal, like leaving the map designing and stuff to the community in portal could like save the game... I mean stuff like SAMP, GTA RP tends to last alot longer than original game, They'll still earn, while we get all the tools to try out stuff like milsims, arcade matches, core bf gameplay etc.

Well everyone expects cod games to suck since their yearly releases. With bf its different

it is because bf has high expectancies while cod has none

Thanks, and you're welcome 👍

No it was not good faith, it was him pandering and pushing an agenda. At the time of him telling that story about his daughter she was an infant and also even if she was around the age of playing video games what is he doing letting a minor play an M rated game?

i respect feminists like this

@@IllJoy Good point.

Nobody cares what you are or what you think after starting your comment like that , stop craving attention ....its pathetic

@@krismcstay1325 Okay?

Glad you enjoyed it!

Appreciate that, Ketchup Dispenser

Haha thanks

It's an arcady game, were we revel and celebrate in a setting that haunted millions of people. there is no respect here no matter how 'realistic' you make it.

@@Zen-rw2fz "It's an arcady game, were we revel and celebrate in a setting that haunted millions of people. there is no respect here no matter how 'realistic' you make it." So there wasn't any reason why Hitler wasn't a jewish black gay woman and we fought the war to save the heterosexuals from extermination in gas chambers with orbital lasers and giant mechs fighting giant monsters? Man, that would have been a diverse fun over realism game if ever we saw one right? I guess BFV does deserve a 1/10 score, because of what could have been... if it weren't for those damn sexist, racists, x'phobes... who will just buy any game they get served up regardless of how unimaginative it is.

💯 More coming

How did you get around the lack of orbital lasers and giant mechs fighting giant monsters? I mean if you go to history books for accuracy, then not having such things means it's a boring game for limited minds...

@@nt78stonewobble 😂 lol

Thanks!

Thankfully the game failed. I'm glad more people don't share your views.

That’s called a “dog whistle.” Bigots don’t like to be called out, hell half of them are in denial. So they use dog whistles- things that mostly attract like minded thinkers but alienate moderates who don’t have experience with dog whistling.

@@calebreynolds9183 I know what a dog whistle is. I watched steve bannon's campaing

@@rexcolt9742 Sorry for the confusion on my end friend

@@calebreynolds9183 Nothing to be sorry about

@@calebreynolds9183 Dog Whistling sounds like something Communists do

I've got more on the way 🤙

Lol no it doesn't ... I play bfv daily . Trust me , you don't notice the women at all in the game

@@brutuslugo3969 until you hear the voice

@@brutuslugo3969 i think you are blind.

you on crack , this game had the best gunplay and movement of any bf except for bf4 , this game was a fps fanatics dream when it came to those aspects.