Why Everyone Hates Hwoarang In TEKKEN 8 

What do you guys think about Hwoarang In this game? And which characters do you want to see me cover next in a video?

I hate Hwoarang because it doesnt even feel good to win against him. Even if i win i dont think "Hell yeah i kicked his ass!" I think " THANK GOD it's over!"

For me its the feeling of unfairness. He doesnt have to learn my character to win but i have to spend hours trying to learn him and its not even gonna be fun? Like bruh

id rather fight 10 hwoarangs back 2 back than fight a single alisa

The comparison to a Dark Souls boss is really apt. However big difference is there is no satisfaction to winning against Hwoarang. Just emptiness.

I do like Hwoarang but to say he isn’t a pain in the ass to deal with would be a lie

a character that requires extensive knowledge to counter piloted by a player throwing out random bullshit, wonderful

Everyone hates everyone in Tekken8

Posting this right before Kwiss started streaming is devious

To be fair Hwoarang is probably the most gifted Tekken new comer if we are being honest the man is like chun li never truly broken but never bad enough to seem fair lol

Currently labbing against him rn and yes, his movelist and frames is giving me mental damage

I dislike fighting against Hwoarang because his animations are not intuitive. Most other characters you can guess if he's plus frame or minus therefore you can guess that it's time to punish or not. But against Hwoarang often it may look like he's minus 12 but when u jab it's a frame trap.

Early level hwoarang players can mash and not know what they're pressing and kick ass. But higher level Hwoarang that doesn't work every button they press they know what they're doing even if it looks like spam. I know for a fact he is one of the harder characters to master in higher level gameplay.

As a hwo main, i would be lying if i say i dont let out a sigh when i see hwos face in the prematch screen

Sidestepping is very strong vs Hwoarang in tekken 8. no pmode grind needed for it, sidestepping blows up most Hwoarang players

The part that drives me up the wall the most with Hwoarang, and other string based characters like Eddy, is that the offense is so effective they never learn defense. Its never rewarding to fight them because every round is a stomp in one players favor. Either they get the flowchart going and win, or they get interrupted once and dont know what to do.

I definitely agree that people should force themselfs to try and learn him because it really makes dealing with the character so much easier

As a Hwoarang main oscillating between Bushin and tekken king, let me say that when i face someone with a minimum knowledge of hwoarang i might be fucked up. Knowing when to duck and sidestep at the right time make me struggle to win, that's the character weakness

The problem with hwoarang is it takes a skilled player to beat an average hwoarang player in tekken 8. In older tekkens you could just back dash, throw out crush options, whiff punish, or counter hit him. In tekken 8 this is significantly harder for A L O T of reasons. The game caters to his playstyle. One of my friends is tekken god with hwo and he is straight trash at the game. He can only play hwo, and has 0 defense. He cant break throws, block lows, he doesnt understand the concept of punishment, he doesnt even know frame data. He just knows when he is plus, thats it. And as bad as he is, when he plays a first to 10 with me, he still manages to sneak a match or two on me. In tekken 7, this guy would play me 50 games and not win once.

Biggest problem with him is that your forced to understand the character yourself to beat him, which isn’t for most characters. Most characters you can see moves and go “oh Ig that plus or oh Ig I can punish with this” with whorang a lot of him buttons just looked similar to one that isn’t in the know and just becomes absurd to fight. I hate whorang cause ik the most of them are not putting in as much effort in beating me as I am in beating them.

tekken 8 is my first tekken game ive actually put more than 10 hours in, and when my friend mained him back in 7, i thought i already hated him. now in 8 after making it to purple ranks, you can tell the difference between a good and bad hwoarang. bad hwoarangs have real openings in their moves. good hwoarangs feel like their turn never ends

Oh boi, the Hwoarang community and Boo saga continues

I love Hwoarang, I'm definitely not that good with him, and I'm sure get beaten a lot. But I really like how he works, his move set, stances, animations, it's really nice to play with him.

THIS DUDE DOING STRINGS

I started playing tekken a 3, and i played Hwoarang ever since. I played a handful of online games but went to my first FGC to finally start getting humbled by some folks, it was really nice to finally have a reason to start focusing on Hwoarang's nuances. I know most folks hate him, but I hope maybe someday I can just start teaching folks how to beat him, teaching to folks as a Hwoarang main.

LTG: This dude's doing a ten hit combo. This dude's doing strings

I dont think he is the most hated. He is my favorite opponent. Every time he shows up I sit up straight scoot my chair up, I straighten up my keyboard and then I turn up the music. When or Lose this character is fun with my Bruce Law its all action. So, to all you Hwoarang players out there I salute you ! I got nothing but love and respect for you. THE WOLFIGHTER!

1:55 man sorry but this being a just frame doesn’t mean its hard or he is a harder character. I never play Hwoarang and I can do it perfectly 20 time in a row. What makes a character harder to play is how hard it can be to get through opponents defense. And obviously Hwoarang is so easy to cheese with and so hard to counter + how psychologically this character destroy the opponent.

I love that everyone hates playing against my main

I didn't know you need a PhD to spam Low, mid, low, high, low, mid, mid, high, low, high, mid, low, mid, high, mid, low.

Honestly, hwoarangs are my favorite opponents because the bad ones get frame trapped easily and just can be out played quickly. Especially when the obvious lows come out, just low parry or block and launch or the highs are coming - duck and launch 🚀

I love Hwoarang, since he's quite beginner friendly, but a little harder to master. I really suck at inputting, like, you'd never in a lifetime see me do the "I'm not gonna sugarcoat it" Kazuya. Him being more just simple directionals and most just 1 button press makes him so much more easy for me to understand and play. Besides, i suck at poke or more defensive characters, so keeping the pressure for long periods is much better for me.

String and pressure based characters are tough because defending against their moveset and set-ups require more knowledge than being the one actively pressing the buttons. Some characters are just tough because you never see them. First time I played a bear in T8 was my Kishin promotion match, which I got freed-up in 3-0 LOL.

Hwoarang is for players that like to play with themselves , people that don’t like sharing nothing with you. It’s about me me me me me me And they get frustrated if you remove that from them

My biggest issue with this DAMN character, is that you HAVE to learn the match-up to do good against him, while the ppl who use him, doesn’t have to learn the match up against you, in most cases. You’re definitely playing their game in neutral and it’s pretty annoying! This is coming from someone who actually does well against this character.

The coolest parts about Hwoarang to me are his wavedash, design, animations, fight style, his personality. But I can’t bring myself to constantly press buttons to initiate my + frames and hope that the opponent doesn’t duck 😂

thank you for the insightful video! to be honest, i main hwoarang and i feel like he's so stylish and cool while also complex and allows forr different playstyles. i know he's super tilting but i honestly have kind of leaned in to it because of the competitive edge. it's really difficult to stay calm against him. he'll always be my favorite

Hwoarang is that mf dude😈💯

As a Bryan main I hate everyone that plays.

Nailed it as usual. Definitely need to learn the matchup to stand a chance. The usual default strategy when you don’t know what to do of holding back, you will never “get a turn” Maybe a video idea on most important characters to know the matchup of (and follow up videos on some lvl 1/2/3 defense?)

It's the heat system and over tracking that makes him infuriating. Nothings worse than waiting patiently for your turn. Then when you do get him on the defense. Heat activation.

I lament not learning Hwoarang back in 7 going into 8 bc he was my second choice until I settled on learning Lee. And I’m pretty sure we can all agree that the practicality of knowing the Hwoarang matchup in 8 is more useful in a broader scope than learning the Lee matchup. Learning both is crucial, don’t get me wrong, but one is clearly more common than the other.

I found understanding the matchup pretty simple. The only tricky part is understanding the hwo player in a few games. One game a hwo will use lows and highs every chance he gets from rf, another will play safe options by picking mids and try lock you down with rff options. I learned to play the character myself because im a psycho who likes to learn lots of character. The character is designed to be string heavy because he doesnt have good defensive options. One good read or sidestep and hwo gets launched since you need to have a flowy offence between stances. Playing a character is the easiest way to understand a character. But the interesting thing i realized is that most hwos pick a way to play the character and dont adapt until like kishin or bushin since these people in these ranks actually know the match up. Hwo isnt an easy character, but he does carry because of the lower rank players lack of interest to understand the character, which i understand.

I sigh every time I get matched with Hwoarang. I don't rematch even when I win. It's just unenjoyable for me.

Picked up Hwoarang in T8 and he gives me the same fulfilment as a Lei main. Tricky, rushdown character, with very clear strengths and weaknesses. clear emphasis on deliberate practice if I want to excel at or beat the character. Your review of the character was quite accurate 👌🏽

this is probably one of the most level headed vids for hwoarang ive seen sick to see someone putting in the work to learn abt him🙏🏽

The issue with habing fast frame attacks and sometimes + on block and quick recovery its hard to punish this character and those insane power crush moves that are also fast is insanely ridiculous

Yo Boogard, hope you're doing well. I am really enjoying your videos. Keep it up!

Im torn with hwoarang hes so cool but every time i go against him i only feel good when the match is over lol

I really love playing him as my main, reasons why, he has a versatile set of combos that I change up every match. This makes him very hard to predict. He has two stances. As such he can punish from what ever leg u use. I am not going to say lower ranks don’t spam him; however, I have loved playing him since Tekken 3. I picked up Tekken 8, and I have done pretty well with him in ranked matches. I also never knew about the heat moves and super moves till yesterday. I have been fighting all this time without them.

I honestly never had problems against hwoarang, and I'm a newbie, I simply learned how to low parry, and he is very easy to beat just with that.

Absolutely always you criticize this character his fanboys will defend it saying "It's hard to use", that's all they say, but I will always think that's a joke, the player that has to do the real work is the player trying to defend against him, the typical Hwoarang player is just spamming non-stop strings hoping for a counter-hit or just win every round with infinite pokes, without any skill or any need to defend, defense being something so important in this game, the Hwoarang player doesn't know what is that as his game plan is to apply so much spam and pressure he doesn't have to defend at any point, and that is "hard to do"... F.... Hwoarang

my gad this character is tier S right now. You just need to press buttons if you use him to win.

The people who hate Hwoarang don’t know the pain of having few options for sidesteppers. Black Kite is his best option and is the only attack in his arsenal that won’t randomly whiff .

I’m an extremely casual Tekken player, and have never played other than local MP. And I love Hwoarang 😂 It’s the flow and nice looking techniques

When we talk about broken we talk about 1 person picking up 1 character to an avg/above avg level vs someone else doing the same w their character. .. As this is how casuals will play. But pros will lab their character against all others and memorize shii like they dont got a life outside these games... Big ups to them... I just barely remember some strings w some characters... Mind you im a casual on tekken and novice on FGs... Bit hitting Elder God multiple times on MK1 without YT combos(im against YT combos as youll tell by my raven gameplay 😂😂) but some characters hwoarang... Will be broken. Bc those players will have access to his mixups and movelist... While anyone fighting him now has to lab their own and lab hwoarang... So for me broken on a casual level comes down to ease of pickup/ease of learning vs your opponent ...

So, you telling me this character is like a Boss in a souls game and think thats alright?

I’ve honestly always found Hwaorang a cool design from the first time I played Tekken 3 when I was a kid, played him a good amount in T3 and T6 when I played again, am currently fresh to T8 (currently playing a mix of Reina and Lili) and honestly don’t really mind playing against anyone in T8 other than Alisa and Feng so far tho it probably is a skill issue from not playing since T6 and playing casually in my free time.

People are acting like Nina isn’t faster Hwoarang with a plus high-low mix with just pressing CIRCLE when all of Hwoarang’s move can be DUCKED

THIS DUDE’S DOING STRINGS!! -Low Tier Dale

I'm a fujin Hwoarang and honestly, he's super fun. I'm waiting for Lydia to come out so I can be both aggressive and defensive

As a Hwoarang main myself, I can guarantee that I piss off a lot of players just by playing Hwoarang and spamming the moves over and over again, which is why I switched to being a Kazuya main instead.

Edit: I lowballed the fuck out of the roster count, it’s 33 soon to be 34, my bad This video is gonna be my go to for why Whorang is so damn annoying to fight, your Victor video did a great job of showing his BS and so on, but also showing how he’s legit minus on 90% of his kit, and how he hurts for lows and struggles against some things, but this is legit just “you gotta learn how to play him” which is my biggest issue with the character. I don’t mind labbing a character, hell I’ve done it in plenty of other fighting games (Fighterz, Guilty Gear, and Street Fighter) but with Whorang you have to learn every single in and out of a characters kit cause he is plus on LITERALLY EVERYTHING and has options out of his options, as a newcomer to Tekken that’s where my issue lies. I will learn him, but it’s kinda mad annoying to have to open up a whole ass character guide to learn how to deal with one character out of a roster of 27 characters (soon to be 28) I will “get gud” but I’m seriously not gonna enjoy it. So far he’s the only character I’ve had to do this with, cause every other character has fucking MINUS FRAMES. I play a buddy of mine who I meat through Tekken 8 and he plays Whorang from time to time, (usually when I’ve won a few more sets then him) no true full knowledge of the character just using what he knows from a old friend of his, and it feels like each time I figure out how to deal with some of his, and let’s be honest here, straight up bullshit, he has some other option that will get me killed for trying the solution to the prior one, he is the nastiest hard to read 50/50 machine of any fighter I’ve played

Eddie has always been the most hated ever since the 2 button spam

I been kicking ass wit him for 20 years running lol

I'm a month late; but as a Hwoarang main, I LOVE mirror matches. I love fighting King too. Alisa should have been the one to fall in the volcano.

Hwoarang & Bryan have been my mains since T3.

I never knew my favourite character was so hated XD

I managed to have a good WR against Hwoa in T7 cause I had a super long reach character that could keep him away easily. Now I don't have this character anymore, and he can jump at me from fullscreen and immediately goes + on block AND heat engage at the same time cause why not. I have to agree with everyone here, win or lose, playing against this guy is just raw pain.

can someone teach me how to be a hated hwoarang main cause idk how to do his strings despite reaching battle ruler and i feel like one side step and i lose the game

everyone hates a character in every fighting game its a norm.

Dude, compared to the rest of the T8 roster, Hwoarang is a joy to fight.

I learned to play against him in T7 after being demolished 100 times

If I can’t win them, I’ll learn them. It has been a game changer in terms of satisfaction

See the thing about hwoarang is that, He pisses me off but the fault is with me for not learning the matchup. That doesn’t mean he’s not annoying though😭 everyone loves to say, “he struggles with finding a way getting in! Just be patient, play slow and wait for the hwoarang to come to you and punish a mistake!” I’m like okay cool but when I let him “get in” I GET KICKED FOR 10 minutes and I don’t know what to do!! I’ll also be honest I when I first started I thought hwoarang players wore just mashers but I learned oh the character is actually really hard to play, like at that point I just gotta respect it. What I hate about him the most is his string pressure, because the game is literally like “you are gonna sit here and learn the 10 different strings he has in his 5 different stances and you’re gonna like it” like at least with other stance characters movement is usually the answer, but with his strings I really gotta sit there and learn when to crouch and stuff. I’m obviously complaining a bit but at the end of the day it’s on me to learn the match up and I will! And of course respect to any hwoarang players cuz that character is really hard. Screw that character though LMAO

ITF Taekwon-do, proper Taekwon-do. I also saw that there is an anime called God of Highschool that features some Taekwon-do loosely based on ITF.

Can we get a video on Yoshimitsu?

Kicking it like Wulong with my boy

All hwoarang players do is the following:spamming strings,spamming his launcher,his double jab into a low kick,his armored moves,frame trapping which they LOVE or just keep pressing butons. No matter if it hits or not they just keep pressing buttons. Just keep.pressing buttons dont stop just press buttons untill they win

He’s been my main since I was a child 💯

My problem with harowang is the player behind the controller, same with Alisa. They seem to be just absolutely toxic and employ goblin tactics. Going as far as plugging, spamming their good stuff, and generally being disrespectful in higher ranked. At least with eddy they don't act like they own the joint.

I wont lie i never learned hwoarang i just parry the end of his strings. I know its cheap but what do you expect from a leroy player

Funny enough my mentor the way he plays him is fun to fight the character i use to fight his Hwoarang i use Lee and its so much fun, because im also learning lee

The biggest irony for me is (i only play tekken 7 right now) is that i myself practice Taekwondo and i hate playing against Hwoarang 😂😂

THIS DUDE IS DOING STRINGS!

Why i personaly hate him is that if dont duck his in stance jab looking move ,i will never get my turn back ,other string based characters ends their turn in one string ,hwo will never stop if i dont know exactly when i have to stop him ,yes that jab looking move is high ,but you cant duck and launch it ,d34 was risk free glad they finaly nerfed it ,every engage option is plus ,so if you fail to step it you have to eat the mix

When you play Hwoarang you put a lot of time into learning him, sure, but you're learning Hwo not Tekken, not matchups, not reactive. You're just playing it as though there isn't another player.

Eddy is the one character I will FOREVER hate it feels like a chore fighting him

Id rather fight hwoarang than victor or king

Tekken is by far the most difficult fighting game on current system's. Its the steepest mountain to summit, the skill and concentration required to get good is bonkers, the game is seriously deep. I'm only a red rank Garyu Howrang main and honestly theres days i feel like switching main because he's just too difficult i get my arse handed to me on a plate everyday. BUT when I'm on form he's the coolest charater to play feels so rewarding. If anyone hasnt tried him please give him a shot, he is worth the time and most importantly he's fun. Ps i hate "King" 😂

I rather fight 10 victors and alisas than fight a spammy Hwoarang, and I’m a Hwoarang main

I don't think its laziness you gotta understand we don't have that type of time we have lives and responsibilities we some of us don't have time to lab literally 32+ characters a solid lab is about 30 to a hour which is honestly ridiculous so you need a total of 32 plus hours

I always played a lot of Hworang, and I think playing him is pretty brain dead.

Hwoarang ain't too bad. It feels bad if you don't know the match-up, but to be honest every character has knowledge checks that require skill. It feels way worse to fight against a Feng, king, or Dragunov imo. If you haven't already you should do a video on why people hate KIng in T8 as he is imo the easiest character to get into T8 with. Grabs are very OP. His armor moves do stupid damage as counter hits that leaves no gray health at all and his throws basically act as combos. With people not knowing how to break grabs and grabs being giga buffed King basically will carry anyone that puts like an hr or two to learn his moves to red ranks.

Throws were naturally stronger in Tekken tag 2 and previous entries. Everyone technically had a throw game and the break windows were shorter. But beginner counter play against Hwo would be to low jab interrupt his chains from time to time. Blocking his mid options tend to end his pressure. Though for some reason they gave Hwo a plus on block mid low crushing option in T8 which lessens the commitment on his mids. Once they are conditioned with the low jab interruption, watch and block the incoming mid. Though low rank Hwo will just keep eating the low jabs so feel free to do it every time. Other than that, side step/walk his approach since his pressure starters are quite linear. These simple tactics will get you quite far in the matchup for beginner and mid level.

The minute a Hwoarang player start getting smoke they start spamming his endless strings never fails desperation at its finest.

victor and eddy are prolly hated more, but whoooaaarang is up there. chip damage will prolly see some adjustments. u can lose half a bar from blocking everything victor spammers throw at u. perfect defense but ur bar is still gone. thats outrageously broken.

Yet to play a hwo who put out even a single just frame skyrocket. Idky ppl use that move as execution requirement standard. Gets the job done just frame or not, so it is not a requirement. What other execution does he need?

Hwoarang is the best❤ I don’t care if people hates him or not I love him so much❤

I think calling it "lazyness" is a bit unfair when there's so many characters where you have to put in that work. On top of learning basic things like throw breaks or how your own character works, etc.