Why Everyone Is Wrong About This Notorious Serial Killer 

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@@Capitan_Unknown very cool

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Hey Thoughty2, have you ever done a video or given an explanation as to why your channel is named what it is? I'm just curious because it feels really close to a reference to the Hitman video game.

Let’s also mention the fact that H.H Holmes is actually Jack the Ripper

​@@DeskDragon nah that's dB cooper

@@out_of_orbit1968 actually its me

We hear you!

The internet isn’t real, all of this are just ads and bots catered to suit your desires based on a microchip implanted to your brain at birth.

He was definitely some kind of criminal psychopath, but probably not as efficient at murdering as the legend has it.

Just watch 3-4 other history fact channels, he copies other youtubers when their videos are successful. I watched basically the same video by some other guy about a week ago ... And yes that's no coincidence, that's about the tenth time I've seen him doing it

@@CrazzyJokerr Link to those youtubers and "original" video about HH Holmes, please?

​@@jeinnerabdel don't wait for them, they're lying.

@@jeinnerabdel Dude I watch like 30 videos a day. The title was something like: Who wins the serial killer competition?

@@CrazzyJokerr so cringe Ai videos?

It's also funny they are both fiction. Holmes killed people for money. It wasn't a hobby and although he is a psychopath just the same, it's different. That and no one has proven he actually did most of what he is accused of. Over the years things that couldn't be solved got thrown squarely on the Holmes list.

**Vsauce sounds** OR IS IT?

Sherlock Holmes is fictional, HH Holmes isn't so no irony here pal.

​@@osmanhadzalic9060 Lemme guess, you don't have a lot of "pals".......

@@osmanhadzalic9060 Holmes chose his name. He wasn't born Holmes.

Oh thank gawd. I was afraid I had to go bail you out. It would really mess up with my plans today!

@@ayoelang It's the thought that counts.

@Ayoe Lang @Gary Stump Sr I was thinking exactly the same thing!! except that I would likely end up trapped in a murder castle! and, sorry gary, but no thanks..

It's not a coincidence

@@jasonvoorhees8545 I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning behind that assessment.

Great book

reading this book was my introduction to H.H. Holmes

Such an amazing book

@@zacazzz wait what!? Hell yea

Good book, I read it a few years back. I'm not sure how factual it is, but it is a good read

I doubt newspapers had much to say, much less exaggerate anything in the case of E. Bathory...how many of newspapers or journalist do you know btw.the ages of 1560 and 1614?😂

@@veskoavramovic6531 Maybe not "Newspapers" in so many syllables... BUT in that same token, because literally EVERYONE involved had their reasons (profit, status/class, politics, public image) to exaggerate or lie outright. For the time, even something as petty as a stolen chicken would result in a document called "Letter of Complaint", and there's almost nothing of those... The witness accounts that can be confirmed are largely based on word of mouth, and even the arresting officials gave enough conflict in their own accounts to be questionable at best... The reality is that even AFTER her legal husband died, she was making money AND expanding her land-ownership, in a place and time where women just were NOT welcome to do that kind of thing independently. Men felt threatened and insecure, and she held debt-marks for several other nobles and their families. Keeping more or less to herself, and mostly earning a living by teaching Courtly Manners and Etiquette to young women for THEIR families, she was an easy target... especially when making business deals to profit a woman couldn't be seen as becoming for a man of the times, she would've been kept quiet about that so rumors were allowed to fly. AND for the estimates of her victims and atrocities... from the shear scale there should be SOMETHING findable now... and there simply has been NOTHING in spite of questions, and returned investigations... so the whole "affair" is doubtful at best... Newspapers only later turned the rumormill and sensationalism into an industrialized business... not so much for dubiously and randomly finding rich women to burn alive for fictional crimes, but purely to sell their supposedly credible "journalism" no matter how many or to whom they caused harm in backlash for this fictional behavior... ;o)

HH Holmes was grave robbers? 🤔😄 lol

@@Vikanuck it's true, despite the grammar. He'd loot the graves, keep the valuables, flence and sell the skeletons to the University of Chicago. He did the same with many of his victims. It amazes me how none of the universities would ever get curious when one or two people keep showing up with corpses & skeletons for sale. Nor were the professors *buying* said remains ever made to face any repercussions for not mentioning something as sus as "Bob's Weekly Corpse Delivery" to authorities.

He robbed graves and sold the bodies.

I think the receipt thing is a stroke of genius. Who would ask questions if you presented a receipt yo👀

​@@kenik2023yo??? What does that mean, yo

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lol

That's just what Big-Stache wants you to think

Of course!

@@rh2097 HAHAHA!!!!

Yes, exactly the point I made in my comment. Holmes was more of a career gangster type than he was a traditional serial killer, it was pretty much strictly business not pleasure and it's even said that he felt remorse for his killings

Greatest winker of all time

At the time he was killing he honestly could of gotten away with it he could of done all this stuff there's just no proof or documentation to back it up making it a rumor which was easy hiring multiple different building companies to build part of the hotel there were secret hallways and rooms that led to no where and shoots that led to the basement they just don't have any evidence that he used the hotel for malicious intent

​@@alexandriarennie5992 The third floor "hotel" part of the building was never finished, so the "secret" rooms, hallways, shutes leading to the basement, etc, probably never existed at all. They may have been simply inventions of the press, as were many of the stories about H.H. Holmes and his alleged "Murder Castle."

I think he was the inspiration for leather face/texas chainsaw massacre. Heard this recently, saw the movie as a teen and had no idea as I wasn't into true crime yet.

While I definitely agree he did some wild stuff with body parts, I'd argue he doesn't really set much of a bar, considering he only killed two people. At least, that they could prove.

Albert fish is right up there.

You're a little confused. You refer to Hannibal Lector, the "Buffalo Bill" killer (both from "The Silence of the Lambs"), Norman Bates ("Psycho"), and "Leatherface" ("The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and its many sequels, prequels, and remakes) as "non-fiction characters." Wrong! They're all FICTIONAL, meaning that they're just characters in books, movies, or whatever, that they're not real people. "Non-fiction" means that it's a true story, and that the people in the story are REAL. Also, I don't think Ed Gein (who was supposedly the inspiration for the above mentioned fictional murderers) can be considered a "serial killer," because he has, so far, only been linked to TWO murders. Usually, the term "serial killer" is applied to someone who murders much MORE than two victims (often, it has to be four or more victims).

@@michaelpalmieri7335 he used skin as furniture, he used skulls as bowls and face skins as art. Perhaps he was a grave robber who had a serious Mommy Fixation problem. Either way: yes of course the movie characters were fictional. Ed Gein was real. A serious study into twisted mentality…what on earth made him think and do such things? Human skin stretched like leather as a chair… a lampshade…gutting the woman who was strung up like a deer being dressed… it’s that mentality that scares me!

no totally not it would only be weird if this didnt happen like 200 years ago

>Stephanie HarLOT posted Hard PASS

A eye , hand, a shoulder?

@@johnsimun6533 No , just a plaque .

@@shereesmazik5030 be careful. The world has jumped went through a pandemic. Hopefully it has several safe points to help prevent the release.

*just

@AzureWolf150 the plaque, or body parts? I believe it is according to your location, and situation that is in question. Generally, I would guess not, but if you possess any of these. You may not be concerned about that, but Akuma, Matata?

it's official he chose a name that sounds similar to "42" ....

A common misquote. In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of etc., not the answer to those things themselves. What this "ultimate question" is never gets revealed.

This is how I feel also. LOL

Lol

I actually think Albert Fisher is worse

@@adeponol More worse than whom? There are many who are worse than HH Holmes in many different ways, but when it comes to the first two I mentioned, I'm not sure I would agree. I agree that Albert Fish was really, really bad, though. To say the least. He's definitely up there too. Any child killer is simply evil.

What is it called?

@@rileyfuckingrifle I think it was the 2004 one by John Borowski. But I'm not sure they all have the same name. H.h. Holmes Americas first serial killer.

That movie is awesome!!

You should also check out The Why Files. Another excellent channel.

​@@MidwestLori77 I absolutely love it. I love how he doesn't try to dispute his story based on his opinions but on research

Everytime i'm channelsurfing and I see an episode of Oak Island, i'm just like, "still ain't found the treasure, huh...getting real ark of the covenant vibes" lol. Then again, that's just everything Discovery/History channels do lol.

Agreed. He was gruesome and able to do children and dismemberment, as well as people close to him who trusted him, almost certainly a psychopath. But not a serial killer in any other way than having multiple bodies.

What are you talking about? Hhomes was more than likely psychopathic there was no remorse. You don't kill 200 some people and have remorse. You don't kill more than one person and not have remorse. The dude is a serial killer, multiple people. Some of them just for fun. I'm from Ohio. We grew up hearing about his House of horrors

@@monkeykidd420 if you press the read more button you'll see that I ended my comment by saying "by definition he technically is". Never argued that he wasn't, just that he's not comparable to Bundy or Dahmer for instance Also, he did show remorse, there are letters that exist that at the very least claim within that he was having issues coming to terms with the fact that he killed family members and others close to him, particularly a woman he'd fallen in love with

​@@monkeykidd420 Did you watch the video? He didn't kill anywhere near 200 people and the 'murder castle' story is almost totally made up.

though on the other hand there were also letters saying that what he did was so dark, he didn’t know if should lie, because people might not believe a human could be so heinous. Also adding that he would skip writing about the begging for mercy and screams for help, not because they bothered him, but to save the readers. So I don’t know if he was… truly remorseful

@snarfsnarf977 Certainly H.H.Holmes 😅

I thought he said, "Thoughty 2".

Was his grave always littered with fanfare and half-empty liquor bottles? I always think it's so strange how the wicked are "honored" after death.

Not to mention he probably "indulged" in some of the workers. A few guys DID vanish while working on it. No way he could get away with that with a bigger firm. He also hired small enough operations they couldn't do anything other than quit when he stopped paying them. Dude wasn't evil, just terminally greedy. Everything he did was either for money or to cover his butt. He was still trying to make money with a book up to the day they put a rope around his neck

I don't know whether to trust your "fact". It seems to contradict what was said in the video

There was no "Maze" of any kind. The place was built rather orderly. A half dozen or so storefronts, twice as many apartments. The reason he never hired big companies was because of costs. Every addition he put on the building actually spawned a new company though, the laborers got together after the work was done and kept selling their labors. And as to the blueprints, there was much in the construction (or rather lacking therein) that wasn't accurate to the prints because of corners being cut. Something else that you couldn't talk a bigger company into doing, and even if they did take shortcuts, there's never any convincing them to cut the costs for doing so.

@@HFRG-zq1qm I would absolutely love to continue this civil debate, but I have to ask a question first. Have you ever read the book "The Devil In The White City" by Erik Larson?

@@Rngenius_ There is no debate. You are just very very wrong. It not only says contrary to your claim in the video, but on google as well.