Bobby knight was both a coaching genius & one of the worst narcissistic abusers in the world. He had serious psychological issues. He needed a good old fashioned ass whoopin to humble him
I was a student at IU. I have two Bob Knight mini stories. One was just kind of funny. My friend Chris and I went to a IU Student event where Knight was going to speak. When Knight took the podium, he said, I’m not going to speak until he takes off his hat. He points to my friend Chris, who is wearing a baseball hat. Chris quickly removed it. This was the 90’s. Some people out of manners would remove hats indoors but not really students in classes. I don’t think anyone cares about that anymore. The other story was I was eating at Steak N’ Shake in Bloomington with a friend. Bobby Knight was at the restaurant as well, eating at a table with someone else. We had the same waitress. she came over to us and she was flustered, and commented on how big of a jerk he was. Not surprising that Knight was mean to waitresses.
Bob Knight light going fishing. I know this guy who was a teacher here in California and during the summer he worked as a fishing guide. Bob Knight hired him a few times to take him on fishing trips. The man's wife would do all the cooking and he would do the guiding. He's a super nice guy. Anyway apparently bob Knight was a total ass to the guides wife. The guide had enough of it and basically told Knight he was no longer welcome.
Yeah, he like to physically push around old-lady secretaries on campus, too. Such a badass, that's why he only went after players that he could cut on-the-spot and little old ladies at the school.
@@williamgullett5911That was partially propped up because Knight was fond of revoking scholarships of players who he perceived as not being good enough, and ran off a bunch of other players through transfers back before the transfer-portal was really a thing. And not just "soft" players: Larry Bird is one of the toughest, most competitive men in sports history and he hated Knight.
@@pronkb000 Knight didn’t run Bird off, Bird didn’t like being in a bigger city which is why he went to Indiana St. The other stuff you mention I’m not so sure of. If Knight ran anyone off it would be the guys who didn’t go to class like Giomi
Played grade school basketball versus Dakich. He was unstoppable. Stood next to Knight a couple of times, he’s huge physically and imposing. Used to see him at HS games recruiting.
@@Damonbird775 I was there in 1976 and used to play at the HPER Building a lot. Benson was a dick to everyone after Buckner, May, Abernethy, and Wilkerson graduated. I guess he was reveling in his moment. Bird was a casualty of that arrogance.
@@mc76 We had a lot of drills in the HPER during Knight’s camp I attended twice back in the mid 90’s. I believe my father graduated from IU in 76. Small world.
This is why Indiana lost Bird, Jeff Rulland, Jeff Lamp, Kyle Macy, Jerry Sichting, and many other professionals. He was a great coach but a supreme jerk
@Edward Monix that’s false. Even Knight said so in retrospect. Bobby Knight would have ruined Larry Bird if he stayed four years in Bloomington. He probably ruined a LOT of people that stayed four years in Bloomington. Andre Patterson and Damon Bailey come to mind.
Knight is so very large in person. I was an admin asst at Texas Tech during the Knight years. I had to deliver documents to United Spirit Arena and happened to park next to him. When he got out of his car I just sat in mine completely cowed. He's very intimidating in person just based on his history with others. After he had a fair lead I followed him into the arena. He had a very public spat with TTU Chancellor David Smith. For that reason I never ran into Knight again because he didn't step into the Chancellor's wing. It was fun to watch him coach during games, though. The students worshipped him.
If Bobby Knight was so nasty, why did Dakich bring him to Bowling Green to help him raise his profile and fundraising? I was in the BGSU arena that night when it happened. What a two-faced piece of crap. Come on Dakich...
IKR!!!!! Dakich is such a bitter back rider. IF it not for Bob Knight DD would have been a forgotten foot note in indiana lore for his guarding Jordan in tournament and then being the reason IU lost the next game against VA.
Dakich "held" him by forcing him left all game into help D. Lol. Lot of former players, including a few of his own teammates, always laugh when this comes up.
Nah. BK was a grade a jerk. No amount of wins justified how he treated players and certain people. Boeheim is another example. These guys made their name in an era when players had no options and the head coach could make or break your pro opportunities. BKs legacy will be tarnished as time goes on. This generation doesn’t lionize sports figures like previous groups. They won’t be so willing to ignore his abuse of players.
He seems like that as a broadcaster, he always seems to be yelling a little bit and is a guy who doesn’t like broadcasting or watching overly flashy players
Dakich didn't accomplished Squat as head coach. 2 NIT 1st round loses in 10 years in a sub-par conference....Dan won't admit he was a Knight wannabe. Class dismissed Dan.
I'm not a fan of Dakich....he's a professional troll a lot of the times...and as a UK fan he's targeted UK multiple times in that kind of thing...but him not being a great coach has nothing to do with how someone who he thought was his friend and mentor would treat him like that.
He shouldn't have went public,but no surprise working together that long.Yes I believe Dakichwas offered job in waiting. Think about it,imagine working with coach Knight all them years.That said Knight had some great ideas and is one of greatest coaches all time
These two guys are the same. Fake bullies, celebrity friend name droppers, arrogant, and stubborn. Knight was a good basketball strategist, but his routine of abuse would not go today. discipline and abuse are 2 different things.
I remember there was a hypothetical question being tossed around about if anyone would want their son to play for him. There was a time when a lot would say yes, but by the mid 90's it was a resounding no. People change.
BK lost me as a fan when I found out what he did to Neal Reed. That kid didn’t deserve INU and knight running a smear campaign against him, that was BS
I first saw Bob Knight play with the Buckeyes back in 1960. He was a winner and a fierce competitor then, and was throughout his coaching career. That man could throw a chair!! Woody Hayes had the same demeanor with Buckeye football.
You apparently do not follow Indiana basketball. Most of his former players love him. Just to be clear Dan was speaking to his career after he was a player.
@@TerryWilsonModels you misread what I wrote. I typed "disliked"; as in, I can't believe there are former players who actually DISlike him. Also, I once had the book "Season on the Brink", and have also read other books referencing Indiana.
As I am old, people occasionally ask me if I have ever seen anyone like Trump in my lifetime. My standard response is yes, I went to IU in the mid-1970s. I am not speaking politically. I am speaking in terms of a fan base's utter idolatry. Like Trump, Knight could have shot someone in the middle of Kirkwood Avenue, and he would not have lost a fan.
That's true--& I was there too. I remember saying as much to my Dad when I was a kid. "Bobby Knight can get away with anything here in Bloomington". My dad agreed.
Dan Dakich was with Bobby Knight for 16 years. Dakich also worked with Knight at ESPN. So he would know as much as anyone if not more than most former players and assistant coaches.
If I had a son headed to any college to play basketball I would not want them with Bobby Knight. BTW How many national titles at Texas Tech? Great coach?🤔
Neither Knight nor Dakich had any desire to be liked, their program was built off almost unhealthy competitiveness as have many other programs in college and HS hoops throughout the decades. Why do you think nobody likes Isiah Thomas? They had a philosophy on how to build champions and still stick to it even today, they don’t care if you like it or not. As I recall the last unbeaten team in the sport was coached by Bob Knight so something they were doing at Indiana must’ve worked. I hate Dakich too, but that’s sort of the whole point.
Knight must've gotten fucked in the head right around 1993 because, after that, he couldn't do shit. People bitch and debate about Miles Brand not liking him, how unfair his zero-tolerance policy was, and he was set up to be fired. They can't do that to a coach that is running a great program, that's the armor against all that crap. Knight utterly quit producing in 1994, that was his actual downfall. His last 7 seasons at IU, he never got past the 2nd round of the national tournament. No matter what kind of animosity or whatever nefarious plots Brand had against, it wouldn't have mattered in the slightest if Knight was producing like he was supposed to. Him having a job there for his last 7 seasons was an act of charity. He only stayed that long because of who he is. It's the reality of sports at that level. If you're not winning games and keeping your program on the map, you're gone. Post-1994, IU wasn't in the news for winning championships and setting records, they were in the news because Knight was finding new and interesting ways to be a PR nightmare. If your program stops producing like it should AND you're a total joke in the media, your days are numbered and it doesn't matter who you are. The first 2/3 of Knight's career was sterling. His last 1/3 was a joke and it's all on him. When people gush about him being a legend, they're looking at his career minus his last 14 years where he didn't do shit on the court and was a constant joke in the media. The groupies are real good at forgetting about that.
The most I know about Dakich is he defended MJ strongly in '84 sweet 16 and sent MJ packing to the Bulls who was my fav team. In the end , they're probably all egotistical jerks, including MJ, but not worth hating on.
The term “Narcissism” is quickly becoming the trendy word that allows us to ironically blame things on others or appear morally superior when someone else behaves in ways we don’t like, even when we are sometimes hypocritical. It’s couch therapy speak that millennials have seemed to latch onto to explain or scapegoat anything they deem as detrimental to them it seems to me. Human beings are going to look out for themselves? No, really? They are selfish? Whoa...what a revelation, you know? I’m finding that the same people that throw this term around so liberally onto ppl they don’t like often seem to be the ones that exhibit this nature the most. I imagine that’s probably a key trait in narcissism? Not being able to see your own role in how others treat you, etc.
Yup. And he had a bunch of lackeys who would intimidate others into silence when the abuse charges became public. Some people in Bloomington described it like they were in the Mafia.
Look at all the BK fans coming to his aide. Hilarious. Dudes vile anger and temper is getting the better of him every single day. There's a reason his nose has turned purple.
Bob Knight did some bad things near the end & some during his time at Indiana. My problem is all the great things he did everyone overlooks graduated players don’t tell they are suppose to cause listen to many of todays players in interviews their verbal skills are sad. He ran a clean program not one illegal NCAA violation & thats my shot at you Kelvin Sampson. People say oh Knight put his hands on players like he’s the only one who has. The media totally over blew things he did to The Chair & the Whip came to mind Knight was over 50 years old & many of those players were between 18-22 they would have kicked his ass some confrontations if needed. Knight was a target l, if John Chaney threw the chair who would shown it answer is nobody.
? Who overlooks the great things he did?? FOREVER everyone only looked at the great things he did & ignored what a dick he is. It's high time the other shoe drops, & STILL a lot of people only want to accentuate the positives--like you're trying to do. IMAGINE if he coached today: he'd probably be in jail. Let alone fired instantly.
All good points you made Pat. Spartan fan here, and I loved Bob Knight. Old school coach, clean program. Focused on mental and physical toughness, which today, is a far cry from that.
@@pigalow2002 have you watched the obvious cheating that goes on are you telling me Cals one & dones at Kentucky go to class???? I have a hard time believing that. It’s people like you that ignore the good in Knight & can’t see what the rest of college hoops & football world is like all scandals & recruiting violations. Your point on Knight would be looked at differently if everyone ran clean programs guess what they don’t. You talk about what a jerk he was guess what the player or his parents should be intelligent enough to know when you sign up to play for guys like Bob Knight, Bob Huggins, Tom Izzo, Coach K, Jim Calhoun your gonna get bad language & confrontation thrown at you. Yet these parents are so stupid they hear oh my boy is getting cursed at grabbed by the coach to get put in the correct position when playing.
@@patrickgray5633 ? How did I ignore the good?? & are you saying "the good" makes everything else ok? & it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks about how kids should be disciplined or whatever: if they're not going to put up with his style, he has to go! That was the case late 90's. Kids wouldn't play for him anymore, & he refused to adapt to the situation. What are you going to do? Not have a basketball team at IU because you want to pout about Bob Knight not being respected anymore? I'm an IU fan 1st & foremost.
He threw the chair early on in the ESPN era and it got replayed once every 30-minutes all over world for days and days and days. 10 years earlier, it would've been a flash in the sports news for one sports-cast with no video and been gone. ESPN was in a position to wring every ounce of hype out of it that they could, and they did.
Dakich is a LOSER..... Solid Player in his time but whining on a National Radio Show because A Coaching Icon possibly talked behind your back at ESPN...... 😭 Give me a break. And if Knight was SO BAD, why did it take him 16 years to get out of there.... Hilarious 😆
Dakich wasn't a solid player, he sucked(he played decent defense)& he plainly said why he stayed 16 years: he thought he was going to get the IU gug because Knight told him as much.
If Dakich had anything he would have proved it at Bowling Green and going forward but he didn't he's an embarrassment who needs to learn to keep his mouth out of it listening to him do the color on a game any game is absolutely one of the most painful experiences you go through as a sports fan
Dan,please put the hate down. Justified,yes. In your mind. You were thrilled to get hired,as things went south between you @ coach you could have left. So wrong to speak this way. Hopefully you will wake up, reach out@ make amends. Back talking, cutting down a man who gave you so many opportunities. Why act like Judas? Say prayer ,call coach Knight @ mend fences. Your on the top now,be the bigger man. Please smell the coffee.
Wow..just a few observations on this: in any line of work I would not stay 16 years if I hated my boss that much. Dakich is full of shit right there. 2. Is Bobby Knight a mean spirited asshole? Absolutely. But he won, and maybe the best college coach ever. 3. Yes, Larry Legend would not have worked at IU with Knight as HC. He left because of Knight. 4. Dakich seems angry no matter what. Why berate Coach Knight now. Keep if professional.
Bird stated multiple times that he left IU because he was overwhelmed by the size of the IU campus, that he was homesick, and that he had no problem with Knight.
The military mind is difficult to grasp for one with no background in the military. I have no service record. Just experience. And, i count as friends many who did serve. Family as well. In fact, the people I get along with most are military people. Special forces in particular. Don't misunderstand. One who sees little if any difference between sport and warfare can only be respected, let alone tolerated, by others with the same mindset. Period. And... To add an additional two cents... In my opinion Dan Dakich is more like Robert Montgomery Knight than he may ever admit. Seems clear that Knight perceived that. And, no... In no wise am I dismissing whatever the full scope of Dan's experience was while under coach Knight. Just offering hope that one day... Dan Dakich will see himself fully as Bobby Knight saw him. And, come to respect coach for who he was in the realm of sport...and life. The General.
“If your a woman getting raped, you might as well lay back and enjoy it.” That was what Knight actually SAID in an interview in 1988. Let that sink in.
Granted, that is an abhorrent comment. But you took the comment out of context. There are politicians, some with presidential aspirations who have made similar comments about rape. Rick Santorum said in 2012 that "Rape victims should make the best of a bad situation". Richard Murdock of Indiana said "Even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape IT IS SOMETHING GOD INTENDED TO HAPPEN. How nice, apparently God approves of rape. The list goes on and on. Bobby Knight never billed himself as anyone's diplomat. Now, to your comment, did you ignore the rest of Knight's comments during the interview to give the impression the coach was literally giving advice to women who are raped? The rest of his comment following that statement during his interview in 1988 with Connie Chung explaining how Knight handled stress continues: "That's just an old term that you're going to use. The plane's down, so you have no control over it. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE ACT OF RAPE. DON'T MISINTERPRET ME THERE. But what I'm talking about is, something happens to you, so you have to handle it-now". So like many others who have used regrettable parallels, Knight did so too. But you intentionally made the comment far worse by setting it out alone, even excluding Knight's attempt to clean up the mess he created. Let that sink in.
@@-louie9728 Seriously, no uproar over Bobby Knight's rape comment? Either you are ignorant or dishonest. Here's just a short list of those who condemned Knight's rape comment: I.U. President, Thomas Ehrlich, Knight's own secretary, the I.U. Office of the Dean of Women's Affairs. Also networks, newspapers, commentators and other coaches condemned the comment. Let that sink in.
He actually said “If rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it,” then immediately said he wasn’t talking about the act of rape. The media often left out the latter part.
Louie, there was a lot of uproar about it, largely because the quote was taken out of context. He made clear in the interview that he wasn’t talking about the act of rape.
Dan Dakich is the reason Karen Knight's two conditions for Bob's return to Assembly Hall were (1) no microphone, and (2) no Dan Dakich. Blowhard. Lot of former IU players are open about muting TV and listening to Don on radio if Dan's calling game. Had balls to say he did more for Knight than Knight ever did for him.
@@tomy5868well apparently if you've heard of somebody that somehow makes them great and if you haven't heard of them then they are nothing. So my point was that I've heard of Hitler so that must make him great.
Dan your record speaks for itself! As a player u got the most of your ability, props for that. Your highlight is when you get credit for (with alot of help from your team) holding jordan to 16 when you bat them in the tourney In 84 and then lost to olden polynice and Virginia. Dont blame coach knight for your lack of "chances" to coach. When u got a chance you failed. Mike Davis got the job because coach knight got fired maybe if you woulda hung around you coulda screwed it up like Davis and the ones that followed? Indiana hasnt and never will recover. Sucks to be held accountable I guess. Stay on your podcast where u can judge and not be held accountable. Indiana fired knight gets a great hire in tom crean after having to fire cheater sampson then fired screen. Now u rip everyone involved w IU. YOU were an NAIA player that could've only played for a program like coach knight ran. The fans at Louisville had in right when they were flipping you off when you were doing your bullshit "clinic" during a timeout at the FT line. A real pro keeps things to himself.
Sounds like sour grapes. Life is to short to air dirty laundry over social media. Don’t play the victim card. Pick yourself up , kick off the dust & persevere.
Dan is a very good talker. Bottom Line: He had WAY below success as a Head coach. The MAJOR reason people talk to him is because he is associated with Bobby Knight. Fortunate for him. Bowling Green record under Dakich: Jim Larranaga left Dakich 4 Juniors, a Soph & Sr (off his 22-10 team. DD 1st year (with 6 of Top 8 players returning) was 10-16. Next 2 years were good. 40-18. Then 15-14, 24-9, 13-16, 14-17, 18-11, 9-21 & 13-18. If you are counting, that's 67-83 his last 5 years. Average of 13-18...for 5 years. Great storyteller, though
I don't care what some people think about Bob Knight yes he might of sounded like a tyrant at times but he was great coach and said it like is which i really like about him, he's really not a bad person, i know he got carried away at times.
Bob Knight, an a-hole?? Nawwww, ya don't say. He seemed like such a likeable guy, lol. " The more I look into this Hitler guy....the less I care for him " - Norm Macdonald. Perfect.
Ouch, no respect for a man who largely made Dan Dakich what he is. Granted, Bob Knight had his issues and is not the warmest of human beings. But really, Dakich has an issue with Bob Knight because he was told that if Dakich did this or that he would assume the head coaching job at I.U. when Knight left? Dakich of all people knows that while Knight may have had influence at I.U. ( at least prior to the events that led to Knight's firing) Bob Knight had no role in selecting his successor. Dakich is simply full of shit on that point. Makes me wonder if Dakich is being forthcoming on his animosity for Coach. Tell you what Dakich, how bout I fire Archie Miller today and name you as the new I U. Coach?
