Why Gen 3 Gengar is Perfect.

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Pokemon Competitive Singles was at its peak in Generation 3. At the centre of the metagame is Gengar, who provides valuable support to teams thanks to it's Ghost typing, acting as a shield against Rapid Spin, Explosion and Fighting Type breakers.
Gengar is the best Ghost type in the game and is famous for it's incredible Set variety in Gen 3, with reasons to invest in Specific Benchmarks for every single one of its stats.
Gengar can invest in its unimpressive Attack stat purely to capitalize on Explosion or Focus Punch.
It can invest in precise amounts of Bulk to live important hits like +1 Salamence Hidden Power, or Starmie Psychic, and strike back with a counterattack.
And Gengar's attacking options aswell as utility options are incredibly vast, with such tools as Mean Look, Taunt and Will-o-Wisp at it's disposal.
Gengar is a wonderful member of the metagame and a perfect showcase of the Expressive, Creative and Skillful format that is Gen 3 OU.
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Some will never figure out how to get Gengar in Pokemon Scarlet and Pokemon Violet. But famous player Jim Cool is well aware of the Best Gengar Moveset in Competitive, and even how to Gengar Shiny Farm. Many aren't and never will be. That's just the unfortunate reality of the world.
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@jimothycool Месяц назад

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@DkKobaADV Месяц назад

I'm eating.

@jimothycool Месяц назад

@@DkKobaADV What!

@deforestdelpech7528 Месяц назад

I don't need a hat, but more fascinates me.

@gabrielalves303 Месяц назад

This running gag of your viewers repeating your script back to you is a good indicator that theyre well written. I love the level of polish in your content, keep it up ❤

@10carflo22 Месяц назад

Meanwhile on Jimothy Gaming: “I hate hypnosis Gengar and it is so annoying”

@handoverthestromboli6715 Месяц назад

@@10carflo22 Jimothy "Hypnosis Gar beats me" Gaming

@xenobrina7880 Месяц назад

Jimothy when the Pokemon helps him win 😃 Jimothy when the Pokemon is used against him 😡

@tecul1 Месяц назад

hypnosis imo makes gengar way less consistent when there is no need to do such a thing

@h2o684 15 дней назад

The Jimothy Cool slander is insane, folks

@azeria1 Месяц назад

Gamefreak punished gengar for his over confidence and took away levitate from him to humble him

@nintendosaber1184 Месяц назад

GF: "Your overconfidence is your weakness" Gengar: "Your faith in Charizard is yours"

@anasbinmaalik3739 Месяц назад

now he's stuck with cursed body

@bananaspice1967 Месяц назад

They clipped his wings

@RuggedRing Месяц назад

Gamefreak: "Bad Gengar. You're grounded."

@SaintoftheHonest Месяц назад

They decided four immunities was too much

@touyakami1406 Месяц назад

Since entering Generation 9, Gengar has lost it's ability to explode. Coincidentally, Horsea's hidden ability Damp prevents self destructing moves from occurring. Something is afoot folks. Could Horsea have survived the Horse Duel and been plotting something with his business assiociate Old Money against Gengar and the Council of Ghosts?

@anasbinmaalik3739 Месяц назад

wait, let em cook

@azeria1 Месяц назад

Glaie also lost explosion it’s one set of setting spikes and exploding is gone now

@benross9174 Месяц назад

@@azeria1Did it? Theres a Glalie that knows explosion in the Scarlet/Violet anime. With a decently big-ish role

@flyingice6699 Месяц назад

@@benross9174 clips I see of it say self-destruct instead. Revisionist trash.

@TwiliPaladin Месяц назад

Glalie is on the Council of Ghosts as an honorary ghost. Some call it nepotism, since he shares a pre-evolution with Froslass, but the Council assures that he was allowed in on a democratic vote.

@ct1296 Месяц назад

I think the fact that Gen 3 Gengar cannot learn High Horsepower disqualifies him from being the most varied and complex Pokemon. Without an avenue to join the Horse Council, he lacks the crucial horse-related skills possessed by Pokemon such as Barboach and Falinks.

@epicdude8742 Месяц назад

Neither of those pokemon can learn High Horsepower in Gen 3.

@ct1296 Месяц назад

@@epicdude8742 yes, that is factually correct. but I did not specify “gen 3 barboach”.

@PeridotEX Месяц назад

I think it's impressive that Gengar got as far as he did with such low horsepower. He's a real underdog, I suppose

@tecul1 Месяц назад

text to speech may in fact dictate that many gengars have 248 horsepower

@CoNteMpTone Месяц назад

@@PeridotEXunderhorse*

@waterwallets Месяц назад

Jimothy: only Fire types are immune to Will-o-Wisp Wailord: And I took that personally

@SMorange-bh8ou Месяц назад

i cant believe jim forgot the ou staple that is wailord

@armorbearer9702 Месяц назад

Seaking: I hear you buddy.

@darkdragon7210 Месяц назад

Funny how Fire Types are Immune to Will-o-Wisp, but NOT from getting Burned!!! Lol 😂😂😂😂

@danyg0000 Месяц назад

@@SMorange-bh8ouespecially on Wailord Wednesday

@kodar98 Месяц назад

The gen 3 ou monologue near the end was beautiful

@benjulesrun9057 Месяц назад

Gengar has access to Explosion because he's part poison-type on his father's side

@JmastersJ Месяц назад

I don't get it. Pls explain

@PorkpieJohnny Месяц назад

@@JmastersJFor Gengar to run Explosion in gen 3, it either needs to learn it from a move tutor, or inherit it as an egg move from a Koffing/Weezing father

@Scurrying_Snail Месяц назад

Even though it got stronger, gengar certainly lost its magic from the physical special split. The smogon page for ADV Gengar is the size of a novel.

@josephbulkin9222 Месяц назад

Tell me more about how it's a good thing that Gengar cant make use of Shadow Ball.

@dragonslayerz2220 Месяц назад

@@josephbulkin9222in exchange, Gengar got all three elemental punches on it's Special Attack.

@Brandon.thebaby Месяц назад

@@josephbulkin9222shadow ball before the steel nerf was kinda wack tbh, especially since ttar was everywhere & steels were basically mandatory

@konbkob4156 Месяц назад

@@josephbulkin9222Gengar is still top-tier without Shadow Ball, and had a lot of special moves (such as the punches) that it basically lost access to when they became physical. It's still strong without the punches and with SB STAB, but there's a charm in its versatility and how it isn't chained to its STAB attacks

@josephbulkin9222 Месяц назад

@@konbkob4156 I suppose I wouldn't know anything about that. I always thought tiers were for tryhards.

@songbongbang519 Месяц назад

The love-dissertation at the end regarding why Gen 3 OU is your favorite Pokemon metagame reminds me of how I feel about Melee. Especially what you said about how the top tiers in ADV OU are the most interesting and fun to play. That's EXACTLY how I feel about the top tiers in Melee. A common complaint you hear about Melee is that only eight characters are viable, but this ceases to matter to me when these viable characters have such endless complexity to them that there is no singular way to play them. I like Ultimate too, and it IS an impressive feat in its own right that so much of the cast is viable, but when I sit down to play/watch platform fighters (or any fighter in general, really) at the highest level, what I value most is skill expression through depth, not width. There's no confusing Plup's Sheik with Jmook's Sheik, or Salt's Falcon with Wizzrobe's. When I watch a Falco aggressively wavedash-forward to make his opponent play scared and then open them up with the craziest most unorthodox move ever, I don't need the overlay to tell me I'm watch Mango. To me, this is what makes metagames like Melee and ADV OU great. Diversity in skill expression, not necessarily diversity in intellectual properties.

@genarftheunfuni5227 Месяц назад

Gen 3 Gengar is genuinely pretty insane It's so flexible, that you can put almost anything on it, and with enough skill and luck, it somehow manages to work

@CoralReaper707 Месяц назад

There's something so awesome about old gens where the top level threats are the most versatile things on the planet. Seeing gen 9's top tier mons usually being nothing more than just "click broken signature move and kill everything" is really sad

@tecul1 Месяц назад

it's the easiest way to get kids to keep playing, unfortunately

@AlphaetusPrime Месяц назад

I love the point you make near the end about how underdog Pokemon aren't necessarily the most interesting. The more I watched of ADV Revival and now Jimvitational coverage, the more I've come to appreciate not just the variation in which Pokemon a competitor chooses to use, but also how much variation there is in how each specific Pokemon can be used.

@GoldStorm07 Месяц назад

Gengar may have gotten more linear after transitioning into a STAB attacker role, but it never really left its offensive utility role behind. Even up to Gen 9, most of its sets will run 1-2 of Will-O-Wisp, Taunt, Trick, Destiny Bond or Encore. I remember early in BW it would run Disable after that move got buffed. Its defined personality as a scheming gremlin who loves to mess with its opponent is still represented in how it's used, which is rare for such an old Poke that's gone through so many changes.

@wxcvbndu51 Месяц назад

Gengar is the most iconic ghost type Pokemon in the franchise.

@Greeds_ Месяц назад

and one of the series most popular mascots

@ShenaniganBros1 Месяц назад

But Gengar (me) isn’t just iconic to casual fans.

@adam9279 Месяц назад

But Gengar isn't just iconic to casual fans

@DJTileTurnip Месяц назад

This funny ghost is also an icon of the competitive scene

@Save_Frog Месяц назад

Ever since the first game in the series, Gengar has been a central force in competitive Pokémon

@olympusgolemoflight7198 Месяц назад

What I love the most about Gengar are the stat spreads. Most Pokemon go all in with two stats, maybe putting enough in to hit a specific benchmark, but Gengar's EVs are incredibly fine tuned.

@BobbyHopp Месяц назад

gen 1-3 Gengar really has that Black Mage rpg spellcaster type feel. frail but iconic, uses a variety of spell like attacks/elements, alot of trickery. (thunderbolt/icepunch/firepunch/explosion etc) Im glad it got stab special poison and ghost but og gengar is such a great example of how alot of pokemon are twists and representation of traditional rpg classes.

@shoogles_ Месяц назад

Gengar has Levitate even though it clearly stands on the ground. This deception was only uncovered in Gen VII. Unfortunately Gengar still eludes justice for its massive avoision.

@MAYOFORCE Месяц назад

He actually stole the ability from Magneton

@JJNWSGHOST0299 Месяц назад

Days since Groodon: 0

@tecul1 Месяц назад

grewdon

@jeffethegamingadvocate2821 Месяц назад

Your love and passion for Gen 3 ou is very contagious. A lot of gamers seem to not even like the competitive game they play

@the_bookworm8281 Месяц назад

Gen 1-3 Gengar is a weird enigma in competitive Pokemon; a mon with zero STAB options, yet still so good (especially in Gen 3). I don't recall any other Pokemon being like that, though my memory is a little rusty.

@InkSams9386 Месяц назад

Blissey?

@wyattstout342 Месяц назад

Gen 9 dragonite hardly ever runs stab attacks

@YunaLuni Месяц назад

@@wyattstout342 dragon dance

@DragonFellowship Месяц назад

Gen 3 dragonite

@Dragonoid269 Месяц назад

Gen 3 dragonite isn't that amazing, it is fairly niche compared to Salamance.

@nintendosaber1184 Месяц назад

With such a lovely and welcoming smile, Gengar can do no wrong

@feelsokayman5656 Месяц назад

I mean having 3 inmunities and two 1/4 resistances is Outstanding, i agree with you in this one Jim We're Gaming, bros

@Buschkopf111 Месяц назад

After the beginning of Macargos reign, i recieved this really nice t-shirt. I think i am gaming folks.

@teo2805 Месяц назад

If Jimothy does not upload i do not eat

@LuaShine Месяц назад

peak just dropped, folks

@twilightsilver6230 Месяц назад

Can't wait for the top comment to just be the first line of the video

@jimothycool Месяц назад

Can't wait for the top comment to just be the first line of the video

@glowingpineapple619 Месяц назад

its kinda funny how some people who are unaware of competitive pokemon think gengar only gets good in gen 4 when it gets special stab when its amazing/pretty good (not sure about gen 2) in all three gens before it

@josephbulkin9222 Месяц назад

Tell me more about how it's such a great thing that Gengar(you know, the Ghost-type) cant make good use of Shadow Ball(you know, the Ghost -type attack).

@glowingpineapple619 Месяц назад

@@josephbulkin9222 i never said that it was a bad thing that it finally got special stab in gen 4 i was just saying that gengar is so good that in the first three gens it didnt really need stab to achieve its role as a speedy special attacker or anything it was doing in gen 3

@timothylawrence8929 Месяц назад

Gengar is top tier in gen 2 as well

@dogman7776 Месяц назад

This is the best thumbnail of all time. Wowwe. this is truly insane folks.

@bg-cc6hn Месяц назад

Really enjoyed this video. Slightly different take on your usual format, but executed to perfection 👌 Like Gengar, the diversity in the content you make is one of your greatest traits as a content creator. That, your positive attitude, and unique humor are why I look forward to every upload. Great job, Mr. Cool 😎

@hps362 Месяц назад

This is peak Jimothy Cool right here. Also, I agree. Hclat did game.

@konsth191 Месяц назад

I love the last part of the video. what makes a metagame dynamic and fun is one of the most interesting topics to talk about in regards to pokemon, for me

@xerthk5926 Месяц назад

Jimmothy! I have it on good authority that the Bird counsel (Pokémon who learn brave bird) are planning a war against the horse counsel due to Macargo being their new leader

@cocoPls Месяц назад

I've always felt like gengar and boo from mario would be friends, and do petty crime together

@subtodicerat8305 Месяц назад

this is officially my favourite jimothy cool video

@tecul1 Месяц назад

my fave vid to date is the now privated day 1 gen 9 insanity with brute bonnet

@gallae Месяц назад

would love to see a video like this for all the top ADV OU threats, i’ve been getting into the format thanks to your channel and this is such good insight into what makes these pokes good

@gibra-elwalker8022 Месяц назад

I was going to queue up for a TFT game but dropped everything to Watch Jimothy. Thank you heavenly general for your diligent uploading.

@DarkrarLetsPlay Месяц назад

The old outro is ALMOST back :O

@DrewZGmusic Месяц назад

Hey it me

@jimothycool Месяц назад

hello Gengar.

@BillytheCorgi Месяц назад

To add to your final point, i agree not every pokemone should be viable in every meta. Remember how hyped people were when Pachirisu was seen in VGC? It was exciting because it was such a specific counter to the meta at the time that nobody would've thought it. It was different from everything else, and seeing the creativity to pull something like that off was truly astounding. I cannot imagine that would've been nearly as exciting if pokemon like pachirisu, farfetch'd, and smoochun were always viable no matter what.

@handoverthestromboli6715 Месяц назад

23:40 GRUDON MENTIONED

@Gold_Gamer_100 Месяц назад

I've been waiting 4, no, 5 thousand years for this!

@Brandon.thebaby Месяц назад

gengar was so much more fun before the physical special split 🥺

@Snagavitch Месяц назад

Have been on a gen3 spree since the jimvitational started. Honestly after playing gen9 for so long I love the stability, and have noticed the stability has actually created more variety. I have made 6 successful (by my standards) teams and each have used a metagross but the moveset or spread has been dif everytime and for a genuine purpose. Constraint leads to creativity often times

@tecul1 Месяц назад

Necessity breeds innovation

@pantslesswrock Месяц назад

For breakfast today I had an apple bar.

@icky_sticky_mars Месяц назад

3:02 "you get the point ahh clip"

@nekomansa Месяц назад

14:35 Sounds vaguely similar to the fighting game adage, "take the throw." But in this case it's "take a nap."

@nickkerinklio8239 Месяц назад

Why are you using the remake version of the Azalea town theme in your videos? This is a wicked thing to do. Use the original for our sake.

@Blazin_Tundra Месяц назад

Gengar needs levitate back.

@graveleater9746 Месяц назад

Gengar+cloyster+ninjask goes absolutely insane. Cloyster is severely underrated as a special attacker. Those icy wind predicts will win you more games than a pursuit will.

@00Krohnos Месяц назад

This is my favorite 1057 elo core

@donlyphans7801 Месяц назад

Good video and I really appreciate the showdown replays with the level 100 speed stats as their nicknames!! Although my lunch break is 30mins so consider trimming it down just a smidge for me ;)

@beaky8138 Месяц назад

That sub drum Hariyama is neat.

@kms1137 Месяц назад

The most insane part is the hoodie with a 65$ price tag that’s almost half of the minimum wage in my country 💀💀💀

@thearrivalcyberseignister8898 Месяц назад

0:38 that focus punch 💀

@tecul1 Месяц назад

i love you jesus always does this with his gengars

@aldrichunfaithful3589 Месяц назад

if you're interested in building an offensive spikes team that uses gengar to aggressively spinblock, a nice way to make the strategy more consistent is to also use offensive swampert (this set uses pump, eq, ice beam, focus punch with a rash nature, and 108 Def 252 SpA 148 speed). you outspeed standard claydol and do 85% minimum with pump, so it's perfectly fine to throw away gengar for claydol chip as long as you keep pressure up and keep swampert in front of claydol. off pert is also amazing on these teams in general, pump chunks everything and you outspeed blissey which lets you beat it down with eq and punch

@tecul1 Месяц назад

i like this swampert on jolteon spikes, basically mandatory i would say

@lordinfernape4753 Месяц назад

Bring back Levitate and make it learn Mystical Fire

@YosiahW Месяц назад

I always used to say that I am the biggest gen 3 fan but Akimbo Jimbo is pretty Cool. I don't think I can compete.

@armorbearer9702 Месяц назад

"No reason why a weapon can't have more than one use. In fact, I'd say its versatility shows how well you designed it." -Snake

@tecul1 Месяц назад

the bihi game where they expertly used gengar while down the whole game in spl is a thing of wonder

@Neverleterlun Месяц назад

Great video as always Mr Cool. The continued work you do is truly amazing. I am asking for your support again for Raichu. He continues to face hardship. But your videos give us at the F.E.A hope that one day some one will take up our fight. On behalf of all forgotten evolutions, thank you.

@dvddmo Месяц назад

We need Gen 3 OU the Collective Canvas. Metagame evolutions inspired by common threats & sets

@peterwhitaker6380 Месяц назад

This is my first time learning that Pokémon go "into the void" when they faint. 😥

@vladfi1 Месяц назад

Missed opportunity at 24:14 to nickname the Ho-Oh "Uh-Oh".

@CoNteMpTone Месяц назад

Very poetic ending.

@R0yalBunny Месяц назад

This is Gengar Gaming

@Darumaster Месяц назад

I could have sworn you already made a vid about Gen 3 Gengar

@poltergeyst5898 Месяц назад

Such a great analysis. Very articulate.

@LeaxanderNearney Месяц назад

Gengar has always been my fav. Still rots me that they took away levitate

@qstorm38 Месяц назад

Did you make that thumbnail yourself? If so, it’s very good.

@roysherwin9348 Месяц назад

@jimothycool why is there wii sports resort music in the middle of this 10/10 pokemon video?

@Zenarack Месяц назад

They should've never nerfed Gengar If he still had levitate he probably would be a very good mon in Gen 9 with all the ground types

@funkymachine Месяц назад

You should have mentioned the utility gar can be timid to live aero slides 100% of the time

@johnsanko4136 Месяц назад

Gengar is a beautiful (competitive) pokemon

@inuroses_ Месяц назад

i am in love with the thumbnail

@slapnutz3179 Месяц назад

What luck that Jim was able to find a replay where the players had specifically named their pokemon the corresponding base speed to help Illustrate his point This is insane

@canaldecasta Месяц назад

Imagine if Shadow Ball wasnt a phys move that reduced spdef

@MoarCheeseBirb Месяц назад

one of the rare cases of a pokemon that can overcome off-stat STABs. RIP Crawdaunt, Sneasel, Togetic, Sharpedo (apparently sharky gets UU play?). Flareon too.

@Dragonoid269 Месяц назад

Flareon is pretty bad in general though, really bad stat distribution compared to the other Eeveelutions. It is both slow AND has horrible physical bulk. Togetic is even worse stat wise, would never have been even decent even if it has it's attack and special attack swapped (at least they fixed it in later gens with the added evolution). Sneasel, Sharpedo and Crawdaunt could have worked with their stats inverted though

@Goobywoobygoo Месяц назад

*Clicks Hypnosis*

@MogusMasterSaikawa22 Месяц назад

really cool to watch this I never fooled around with gengar when I played gen 3 ou for a short time a few years ago. his versatility reminds me of sandwichtwo. I may hate sandwichtwo as a character and pokemon's mismanagement of mewtwo but the versatility of him in game is still fun especially in gen 4 ubers I found so I guess I should give gengar a try again sometime if he's anything like sandwichtwo ashfdoi

@3Tomatoess Месяц назад

i might be inclined to agree

@pcm1011 Месяц назад

I still run the Hypnosis and Dream Eater combo from Stadium

@AnthonyBalladarez Месяц назад

Gengar explosion goes hard

@catandfishfc Месяц назад

gengargantuan

@TheWaterMiners Месяц назад

Awesome thumbnail, but that last character in Gengar's Japanese name (ー) should be vertical in vertical text.

@yeeuoi7333 Месяц назад

good video Jim

@smittz_ Месяц назад

we love the funny ghost

@sramain2852 Месяц назад

Gengar losing levitate is my personnal 9/11

@idr121 Месяц назад

I love top tiers in gen 3, because they enable me to use shitmons.

@trevorstevenson4038 Месяц назад

Gengar having levitate isnt correct. Can ghosts levitate - yes. But it has legs, and for the fairness of the game, no levitate for Gengar. What ability do you think gengar should have?

@darkdragon7210 Месяц назад

How does Hypnosis work on Tyranitar? It's a Pyschic Move on a Dark Type Pokemon!

@MrAntwan301 Месяц назад

What nature would you run with a hybrid attacking bolt beam base for Gengar in gen 3? Is sapping 10% of your attack stat worth it if you're running ice punch and potentially explosion or fire punch? Cheers, keep up the great content!