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Hey, in the minute 8:26 you put the face of the Argentine dictator Videla, not the chilean one of the same lastname, they were not related, nice video though.
They always talk about how the Nazis went to South America or Argentina but they always forget that a large part of them went to the USA and the Soviet Union.
@@Arrows_Of_DoomI wonder why they couldn’t just execute those war criminals after taking all their knowledge. Was it that hard to play nice temporarily?
@@mikloridden8276Then the other war criminals find out and none of them will cooperate. Plus the US, UK cared more about anti-communism than punishing war criminals. Also knowledge involving jets, rockets and nuclear technology are not something that's easily learnt and you need those specialised individuals working on it for decades.
@@googane7755 I get that but a lot of those guys ended up just retiring and not touching anything. Would have been cool if they just disappeared them during those times for Justice sakes.
Those 2 lightning bolts stand for the SS.....which they were the ones that ran ALL the concentration camps!!! Aka SKULL Research history Heinrich himmler
As a brazilian, I remember having a history class at 8th grade about ww2, and my teacher taught us about Mengele, and all the crimes he committed and was never punished for. That was for sure a very painful class to have, but a very necessary one imo
I still remember reading mengele's Wikipedia Page thinking about it as the history of the far away european continent, as customary for anyone in the New World basically. Then I was shocked to read he died in fucking BERTIOGA, a beach town in my state where I've been to multiple times
@@zanesc01 crazy to think the worst monsters in human history escaped uncharged for their actions, living free while not even feeling any remorse for the piles of corpses they left behind
@@gabithefurryAt the very least, Mengele had a pretty horrific death by drowning. Shiro Isshi got to live peacefully and died surrounded by his family when he took so many people away from theirs.
People must also remember that the vast majority of Germans and Italians who came to South America, came before the war. This is why the Nations where sympathetic to these nations. Since they already had a large diaspora of those cultures
No no no Ppl better research history and pay attention Germany and the Italians and the CARTELS have been in business together for MANY YEARS!!! The Italian mafias run and own almost everything...as well as GERMANY!!! And this has been since ancient times.... the holy Roman empire
Yeah, and people have been fleeing to these nations ever since, from there wrongdoings 🧐👍🏻 You should have shot them, on the border, but Indians have always been weak to pale hight males ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏾✊🏽✊🏿
As someone who gose to Mexico every other summer. It’s a great place to get away from it all. Especially rural towns. Latin America is definitely a great place to flee into hiding.
The thing with Argentina/Brasil/Chile is that previous immigration waves made even easier to hide in cities though the integration of their culture in the local one, and also climate is quite similar in the southern regions, like in the cities around Llanquihue lake in Chile that almost looks like as if it were in Germany; so they could even speak in German without raising suspicions.
Revolutionary mexico is actually a interesting subject given how it was deadly against almost every radical movement and was extremely left leaning (at the time). Harboring trotsky and aiding the republicans in the spanish civil war must have deterred war criminals of the funny austrian very very cautious.
We are talking about the southern cone, I don't think anyone wants to hide in Mexico knowing that they have the side to the country with more larger espionage organizations.
Hitler has no children of his own. He only has one sister that died unmarried and childless. His one nephew (that we know of) enlisted in the US Navy around 1942 so that is a dead end...
Mengele lived for years in a mud brick house in a very poor neighborhood in the state of São Paulo, people said that he never talked to anybody, only when he went to the closest bakery to buy food. It is also believed that he traveled once to the city of Cândido Godói in Southern Brazil, the city is famous for being the place with the biggest amount of twins in the world.
Say the real reason. He had a job as a doctor and performed abortions. And not the good kind. The kind he performed cause he really missed the war. Wouldn't be surprised if some mothers died under his care (and obviously didn't know who he was) Gisella Perl he was never.
German inmigration and influence in Chile was already strong by late XIX century (For example, the Armed Forces were reformed and influenced by prussian military traditions). A great part of Chile's society admired german culture.This was one of the reasons why Chile mantained its neutrality for so long and only declared war on Japan in 1945, but not against Germany or Italy. German colonies already existed in Chile, especially in the southern regions, and some german-chileans even fought in the war (like Peter Adolf Caesar Hansen). Therebefore, Chile was a good place for nazis to escape and settle.
I must say it, I love all of your content. All from the roman wars, to the russo-ukrainian conflict. The time and effort you and your team put in to these videos is amazing, keep it up❤
@@NorseGael1you wouldn't have said a word if the video was filled with stuff you only agree with. People only complain about bias when it's stuff they don't like. The guys at Armchair try their best to be impartial, but it's very hard to do so when talking about Nazis.
My Argentinian grandfathers work uniform has lightning bolts on it. Guess he was a really good electrician! Still wondering what the red flag in his attic is for though.
In Chile there was a German Commune known as Colonia Dignidad whose leader was a Former Nazi who fled Germany Outside was Normal but Inside was a Torture Chamber for Pinochet Secret Police.
My great grandfather was german and apparently fled during the war (according to my grandma) to Colombia where I am from. I never was told if he was actually escaping the conflict or the loss…
I got family down there, too. Never do I miss the chance to tell people about my grandfather being in ww2 or about my Argentine relatives.... He earned the Medal of Honor at the Battle of Ramagen, and part of us left for there after participating in The Hungarian War of Independence (1848-1849).
I grew up in Peru and my best friend from high school has a german last name. He told me his family from the mothers side were germans that came to the Peruvian amazon just one generation ago. He told me stories about his uncle living in the jungle and being a crazy man. Now living in Peru as a child I didnt know enough about world history to connect the dots, but now that Im an adult living the US I realize that probably my best friends family were nazis that left Germany after the war. I havent seen him in years but next time I see him I will sure tell him "dude your family were nazis that left after ther war" lol we will probably have a good laugh about it... I want to add that my friend and his mom are probably the nicest and most caring people I have met in my life. His mom was a nice caring woman that dedicated her entire life to raise her children, when I was already an adult she once told me a very caring and heartfelt story about how my friends father had raised him. So there you go for being the descendants of people who the world have demonized in history, never judge people you havent met.
Great video as usual but as a long time viewer I’ve noticed you guys are really focused on the Second World War and the most popular content you can think of. I understand those get more views but I hope you guys know you have a loyal viewer base that will support whatever you want to do. Keep it up guys👍
@@franciscoacevedo3036 Civil war is different from wars between countries. Plus the Confederates received a conditional surrender which legally protected them from treason convictions. Otherwise, the civil war would have lasted longer.
@@WellBattle6 so you wanted the United States to comply with a treaty??? The same country who tore up hundreds of native land treatises, the German empire conditional surrender, the 40 acres and a mule, the Cherokee representative in Congress??? All promises BROKEN. Not to mention that those British taxes taught in school were a result of the USA provoking the 7 years w4r after CONTINUOUSLY disregarding the British authorities and settling into native land. No, brother those W4R Cr8mln4ls shoulda been hog tied dragged through the dirt they whipped millions of black 🖤 people court marshalled in west point and húng. Those mofos are indeed a public nuisance that's the reasoning USA wanted to eradicated nassies from Germany. And btw the civil war is STILL dragging on socially. You got a good amount of the country h4ting on Kaepernick while elevating these monsters to school names busts statues military bases. If this country was Germany we would be elevating the Austrian failed artist while h4ting on Ann Frank
It makes me a little bit happy knowing that Mengele died in such a terrifying way - slipping underwater as he's unable to will his muscles to pull him to the surface, being fully aware of his fate
@@roomyhaddock3245 100% he’s in hell. However there is something comforting about the rumor that Mossad may have had the last laugh and gotten justice by delivering him to hell.
Surprised you never mentioned Martin Bormann since he’s the only one of Hitler’s close staff that has a debated escape story to Paraguay. Historians lean on the side of him being shot outside the train station in Berlin’s Government District, but there are some things that contradict that.
It was used as a joke in _Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_ (1971). When they announce the false fifth winner on the telly, the Paraguayan casino mogul, they bring up his picture, and it’s an old portrait of Bormann with the insignias all airbrushed off.
"Not just beer and pretzels" lmao that needs to be used more often in your videos when the Germans have trouble with something. "They attempted to take Stalingrad but it wasn't just beer and pretzels"
8:26 Small Correction. The man on the left is Jorge Rafael Videla, the Argentinan Dictator from 1976 to 1981. He was not a Chilean political figure or head of state. Personally, I would've used the images of Presidents Juan Antonio Rios or Gabirel Gonzales Videla. I'm not sure if the image of the Paraguayn representative is correct so maybe someone can help me out here.
I've never been to South America myself, but I would like to visit the Andes in particular. Thank you for another interesting episode. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
I think the most curious thing about it is how much the previous immigration waves were almost directly caused by similar principles the Nazis had. Lots of Pomeranian and other distinct ethnic Germanic groups across the regions of Austria and such were pushed out by repeated discrimination and reprisal by the Prussians and eventually the Kaiser. Even many "volkisch" found them unworthy; swarthy and tainted by either some sort of Slavic or perhaps Turkic blood. So after their mighty machine collapses under its own egotistical impotence, they ended up right where they sent the others they found disgusting. It's poetic, if poetry also had Simon Wiesenthal with a Walther trailing not too far behind.
Although Mengele was never captured alive, having died in 1979, in 1985, his remains were located and exhumed, and in a karmic twist of irony, his skeleton is now kept at the São Paulo Institute for Forensic Medicine for educational aid.
Fun fact: among the last major incidents of Germans fleeing to South America happened in the early '90s with Erich Honecker and his family in Chile, though it was less "escape" and more "got off by technicality due to cancer." Apparently both Erich and his wife were given a sendoff worthy of the DDR there, with the surviving members of Allende's family in attendance.
Just wanted to tell you how your videos really helped me to get through the final exams in High school two years ago and introduced me to so much knowledge about history. Especially, being from south america i was surprised how little i was explained about WWI and WWII outside Germany, Italy and the UK. Here i am, two years later and I'm quite sure that after finishing university i'm gonna get a major in history
You mixed Videla in Chile. Also, when you fail to mention that descendants of Germans in Argentina are a tiny fraction of the population and were a smaller fraction of the immigrants (no more than 5%), the vast majority being italian and Spanish, and that most German immigration to Argentina were pre WW2 (and pre WW1!!) Volga Germans, you help perpetuate the myth of Argentina as a country of german nazis which we see toxically used by American racists online. This needs to be mentioned because when your video says “German music and culture was integrated into certain areas” (it is!) it’s because of PRE WORLD WAR INMIGRATION, NOT THOUSANDS OF NAZIS FLOCKING POST 1945! Please, please, mention this in a comment or annotation because it’s damaging. (We could go on with more stuff such as the infamous state department blue book on Argentina but I digress)
My Grandmother and her family left Argentina for the united states in 1960s, fleeing the peron regime. As much of her family was alive at the time there were plenty of stories. For example, my great grandmother who was a teenager at the time, saw a german submarine in the harbor in Mar Del Plata ( where we're from ), as the story goes the soldiers came ashore with their families, while the harbormen unloaded cargo from the sub, she didn't see it but apparently after all was said and done a tug pulled the submarine out of the harbor and was sunk. My grandmother who came to the states, traveled back whenever she could, to visit cousins and relatives. according to her, in the 70s you could still find towns where the majority spoken language was german, as well as the customs and architecture, mostly nestled in the mountains to the south east of where some of our family lived. the places they colonized had some really great skiing so I'm told
An actual persona from Mar del Plata here. What you describe is a well know and documented event, which happened at the end of WWII: the surrendering of U Boat 530 on July 1945. It didnt land any cargo or personnal, just the crew that was moved afterwards to the States with the ship. It's the center of many conspiracy theories unfounded and plain mistaken. They play right along in the hand of white/black history (an error that The Armchair Historian has incurred unfortunately in this video) when analysing latin american history in the forties and fifties. Perón, though close with many strong hand dictators, was never "simpathetic" with the Nazi cause. He was a ruthless pragmatic who actually sanctioned a war declaration right at the end of the War after some preassure from the US. However, he was marveled with prussian discipline and specialy germanic innovations -something rightly pointed out by the armchair.- There's actually one of the stories widely spread out here in Argentina: he tried to kickstart a nuclear program but was douped by the lead German scientist. The matter of fact is, and as someone from Chile rightly pointed out above, German influece (both cultural, linguistic, or otherwise) predates BY FAR WWII, its politics, and ideologies. I honestly believe that both South American and particualry South American polítics should be analyzed through local sources, not what mainstream US academia says. One more thing: before anyone tries to pointed out that Luna Park was the biggest rally of Nazi suporters as a way of discredit what I've said early, I would like to remind You that 20k nazies rallied at the Madison Square Garden.
@@eduardolamancusa2400 Thank you for the clarification, I hope all is well in Mar del Plata, I hope the winter isn’t too harsh, when I was last there it was summer and quite gorgeous. On the matter of peron I cannot speak to his sympathies, he was a dictator after all. However we can both thoroughly agree on the massive effect that German immigration and culture has effected South America
@@hunterfalkenberg2837 For now, weather is quite calm; cold, and humid at times as all coastal cities are, but not too harsh. As regards Peron and your charaterization of him as a dictator, I couldn't agree less: at best his politicts were fundamentaly strong handed, but never despotic. He wouldn't have been able to win two legally recognized elections, stop a civil war in the middle by resigning, and building the legal foundations of most unions in all key industrial sectors if he had been a "fascist" dictator, as most anglo-american academia portraits him. He wasn't an angel, as we said around here. However, his relevance as a political figure is regarded as important as Alfonsin, Illia, and even the Foundational Presidents of late XIX century.
8:10 German speaking people (descendants from 19th century immigrants) were forbidden to speak their language in public. Some were randomly beaten or arrested. They’ve even come for their books and burned them. My grandma’s teacher, a Lutheran pastor who was a German national, was deported and died in the journey. It wasn’t fun for our people.
@@johnv4994 What is the point of punishment? Revenge, or prevention? Does ruining his life help any of the people he harmed? Not really. It doesn’t help their families either. Not really. If these people went on to improve life in third world nations, do we really have regrets about letting them live?
Good video overall, but I found the ticking in the background at some points a bit distracting. I don't know if it's just the way my earbuds are balanced, but the ticking felt pretty loud and disruptive
One thing i think you didn't specify enough: the large majority of german immigrants and their legacy has nothing to do with the nazis but is much older
Think the answer is it was mostly neutral in the war (except Brazil who joined to make up for WW1 when they weren't as good as hoped, but in WW2 were more helpful. Look up the line "The snake will smoke" for more about it.) like Argentina, despite being democratic, was out of the war and took in many Nazis afterwards.
Make up for WW1?? Germany literally blew up one of Brazil's ship although Brazil had declared neutrality. At that point, there was no option of staying neutral.
