Why Ghibli's First 3D Looks Soulless | Video Essay 

You uniting these disparate fandoms reminds me of the Anton Ego speech XD "But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the *new*." Who would've thought it would be by drawing the ire of both groups :P That said, love your witticism ^^ And, ngl, I love how frustrated you are both here and in the Mulan review XD Schadenfreude is my jam lol

Sorry but what do you mean? I know you make a comparison to Gosling's lack of range in the video but how else does he factor into this equation?

@@pancakemogul Both would be pissed at him, anime fans for the waifu dig, and Gosling fans for that dig as well. As for me... I like Gosling. Maybe he doesn't have that much range, but I really liked him in a lot of movies and think he can do well when the material gels is in his range. Have at thee!

“despite the way I sound I do work out” (paraphrase) -Iron Mike Tyson

I hope goro sees your message

he needs to learn boundaries and to say no. maybe he'll grow a spine someday, but otherwise, can't help but just feel bad for him. Edit: in response to comments saying I'm "judging" him. It's not my desire or place to, I was just commenting on the fact that a lot of his misery seems to stem from a lack of self worth. And if that is the case I can only feel sorry/bad for him. There's not much else I can do.

@@HisameArtwork I'm left wondering if he legitimately does want to work in animation or if he's just doing it for the sake of appeasing a distant father. Or maybe it is actually both, which is why both this movie and Earthsea wound up feeling so emotionally confused.

@@HisameArtwork I mean, if someone asked me to direct a movie, I'd take the opportunity, too. It's hard to judge him for that.

That's some good experience, i can see him learning a lot with those contracts and i believe that in the future years he'll get to a point where he can be regarded as an equal to his father, i hope so, at least i really liked Tales from Earthsea

@@chrisossu2070 Don't get me wrong, I know H. Miyazaki is a bad example of a father, but you can't discredit his criticisms toward his son like any of it doesn't mean anything. If I worked my ass off honing my craft for a few decades, only for my non-experienced son to be given a directing role off of my coattail, and for the same directorial debut film to be set ablaze by filmgoers, damn right I'd be pissed. If Goro had spent years under his father, or any of the Studio Ghibli staff, working and getting experience then maybe H. Miyazaki wouldn't have thrown a fit. The accolades this man has accumulated over the years is nothing to smirk at.

Don't be surprised. It has happened before. Disney is the prime example of this.

@@B121AN1 All great things come to an end.

Ghilbli Fans and soulless, I hear that all the time lol

@@B121AN1 yeah...

@@B121AN1 Disney should stop making live actions, they are simply bad

Not sure it is his peers, just studio directors thinking having his last name on the movie will sell.

@Random Task N-Word I would disagree. Goro and Hayao don't share the same vision for film making and it's a lot of pressure for someone like Goro, to be expected to create a masterpiece like his father. Especially since whenever Goro has been film director, his father has always never helped him through it. What if you were expected to meet high expectations and no matter what tools you had, the person who you aspire to be like, never helps you learn? Is never is satisfied with your efforts? No wonder Goro took up architecture. It's clear Hayao's expectations for his son has stopped Goro from deciding what he really wants in the film industry.

@Random Task N-Word Yes, Goro obviously had much more resources compared to his father. But more resources doesn't automatically mean you can be successful at something, especially if you're avoiding going the path of that "something". Thinking otherwise is simply narrow-minded.

@Random Task N-Word having resources doesn't mean he will achieve the same feats as his father, who he has a bad relationship with. Passion isn't passed by blood. Your ideology would be compared to a son of a world-reknowned guitarist given the top tier expensive guitars, equipment and etc while the guy actually wants to be a pianist.

@Random Task N-Word My father is a stone mason. I’ve grown up visiting him when he was at work, watching him while he laid stone, even helping him a couple times. He built his company from the ground up. At one point I worked for a him. I know the basics of stone; I even know it a bit more than many people. But if someone gave me my Dad’s tools and gear he’s amassed over the years (literally everything you need to do a perfect stonework job) and told me I had to take over a couple of his jobs, I might be able to complete the task, but it would suck. Like legitimately the person who paid me to do it would regret it and wish they’d kept their money. You can’t expect a child to be a replica of their parent. It just doesn’t work that way. Even with tools at hand.

A father working himself to the bone to build his empire from the ground up only to watch it crumbling before his very eyes the moment he hands the reins to his son. I can not even begin to imagine it.

Even

Nonsense. His own lack of skill and understanding is what sinks him, just like he screwed up Earthsea which was a golden goose. He isnt good enough and shows no improvement.

@@0utrunner237 if he didn't want it to crumble he could have at least given him some feedback XD

@@NavilleT these people think skills are transmitted through osmosis or something, parenting is hard

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Yes! Please, give the poor guy a break for once. Goro does have a lot of qualities, they do shine in Earthsea and Poppy Hill. This guy have it in him to be great. And not as a Miyazaki bis, but in his own style.

Seriously, Goro sounds like a tragic character!

I wish he was able to make a movie focused on architecture and telling a story through buildings and landscapes rather than people

@@thedeliveryboy1123 the problem is that Ghibli is the standard for quality anime and it's rich story telling. If he does that then he'll be driving the reputation of the company. This is why traditional anime is still preferred by so many people. In art, you mainly focus on the focal point. If everything is highly detailed then the people watching it will be overwhelmed on where to look at. Attack on titans and violet evergarden produce an incredible anime by combining traditional and 3d buildings. It has style and what makes an anime Anime. Disney and pixar animation focuses on clear visual story telling architecture is just not as important or it's important but other visual cues like colors is more important. Well if we have a theme focusing in architecture then this might work but then again it doesn't have to be always true to reality or realistic as possible. Breakingdown architecture by showing pillars, foundations and other constructing elements is more necessary than to show the frosting on cake.

​​@@thedeliveryboy1123He could make a film about his own situation. The son of one of the most successful and highly-regarded directors in cinema history deals with internal and external conflict and pressure of following his father's legacy. However, he never had a passion or drive for film-making, and is doing this not for his own reputation, but to prove to the people around him (the people giving him the most pressure) he is able to achieve the heights of his father. In an unfortunate set of circumstances, his own father looks down on his son's inexperience and incompetence, and provids no further morale or guidance to propel his son's seemingly misguided career. The son continues to feel more and more burdened. Through his struggles and failures, he slowly realizes he shouldn't be dedicating his energy on projects meant to prove he's just as capable as his father, but should rather pave his own path and explore his true passions, even if it means having "ordinary" goals It would be a great film going over the complex feelings a person feeling pressured and lost in all sorts of ways. A movie about being destined to fail unless he could beat the odds is something that's not often explored. Unfortunately, he doesn't. So many great lessons and themes to be presented, such as the importance of supporting and connecting with people, why failure isn't bad, to not bully yourself for failing to follow someone else's near-impossible career, discovering your own identity, resolving internal and external pressure... list goes on and on.

@@thedeliveryboy1123 i wish people like you would respond to people replying to your ideas

⁠@@Kooczsi uh, okay?

No lmao,goro miyazaki is objectively a bad filmmaker,he is fortunate to be miyazaki's son,no one would be willing to produce for him if he was someone else

@@rittamkhandai4201 sounds more like unfortunate to be Miayazaki's son because everyone expecting that same thing for him, particularly cringe idiots ghibli simp like you

@@rittamkhandai4201 Up Poppy Hill isn’t a “objectively bad” movie, on the contrary it’s a good film, and Goro also directed that one.

yeah but it's not the reality,i mean Miyazaki lived with his son all of his life and loves his son all of his live.Don't let people on youtube decide your thinking,no father hates his own child man.The problem is that you guys aren't grown up when you think such things.

@@lanmichaelmix2818 What fantasy world do you live in? No father/mother hates their child? You are either ignorant and naive or willingly ignoring the fact that there a millions of parents who hate their children.

Fantastic comment and I agree, THAT type of film would be awesome.

Beautiful :')

If he does leave I wonder who's gonna take over,or is this the end?did the father not have any apprentice?

C'mon,you're not his father or mother.You gave him no food,you loved him no day and now you please stop being f a k e.

@@lanmichaelmix2818 Feeling empathy for someone else's situation is being fake? You don't have to know someone personally to feel bad for them and what they're experiencing, even if what the general public knows about that person is likely only surface-level. You can be moved by someone's story even if you've never gone through the same thing as they have

exactly, this movie isn't about the story but more about literally him trying to make this movie. I don't wanna sound like those pretentious art critic guys, but a mediocre movie is here used as a medium to show who he is and what he does and how he struggles and this is the product. The movie without the backstory is not good at all, but knowing the background details and relating them to what happens in the movie is really entertaining and engaging. Things like how you can see how him being an architect reflects in the movie and it's literally him trying to learn magic (his fathers art) and failing and this is the result, Look at it father!

@@smo-king6504 took the words right out of my mouth! That’s an accurate and thoughtful way to sum up what happened here.

Believe me, Hayao wasn't supportive at all. Like I wrote somewhere else in the comments Hayao Miyazaki is a shitty person according to a Japanese exchange student's grandfather. Her grandad literally grew up with Hayao since they were kids, and he can't stand Hayao as a person. Her grandfather told me Hayao humiliated his son in front of his entire first grade class over a drawing Goro has made. Literally tore it up and screamed at him so loudly it scared the entire class and their teacher. And not to mention Hayao is a MASSIVE jerk to wait staff at restaurants. The final straw that made her grandfather cut Hayao from his life completely was when he drunkenly humiliated a waitress to the point she cried and Hayao had to be removed from the premises.

@@AFanOfCinema So, basically, the grand daughter I never knew about, is WAY WORSE than Goro's dad??

@@echotrash466 huh?

I hope so as well. Poor guy.

Both the public and his father especially are ruthless while critiquing him... I hope he's doing fine

He'd probably have been better off sticking with 2D animation like his father said.

@@RonW357 he need to pass the torch to someone who has it goro dosnt has it

@@RonW357 He is pressured to make a change and differ from his father's work, that's why he settled for CGI animations.

Interesting take

I kinda agree and disagree. As and architect and artist who loves animation and 3d modeling, I can say, some of it depends on the style of the architect and artist. But not every architect out there make static backgrounds or use bland, flat lightening. Actually, the technology and the animation industry changed the ways architects present their works. In the 8 years of my architecture journey, I actually learned how to tell a story by my buildings and give it life with some dramatic lightening and even animation. You can watch many architecture post production processes on RU-vid. Many of them use motion blur effects, fog, water splashes, lens flare and other props to give their still renders some mood and life. It seems like people and cars are in motion and the trees are dancing in the wind, and it's an alive photograph. Not a lifeless render. And if it's in animation form, a professional architect never forgets the wind and the waves of the water. Goro's problem in my opinion, is passion. (Besides him probably not being professionaly educated for animation industry) He dose not have passion for animation and I understand him completely. When you don't have passion for something, you just don't want to open up a room for creativity and new technics. Be it animation or architecture. Your heart just won't flutter when you work on it, you have no feelings or connections towards what you're making. You just want to run. Just do it somehow and get away from it as soon as possible. So I feel so bad for Goro. Imagine someone takes your passion away and force you to do somethingyou don't like, in addition to you're not bad at it, but not very good at either. I just hope he realizes this and goes back to what he truly likes before it's too late.

@@monaartsy2410 That's actually really neat to know! Thank you for the information! And yes, passion always affects your quality of work.

@@lavenderbee423 you're welcome!❤❤❤

There's an art to meditative and static cinema. Some of the most powerful moments in film have been borne out of it. The thing is, it's like this film isn't an example of any of that. It's not rhythmic of slow cinema.

yeah, that remind me of sonic?

Because Ghibli is not expert with 3D animation. It's like If Pixar would try to animate in 2D for the first time. They don't have any experience with 3D before and tbh, they should return with 2D. They're really strong with 2D than 3D.

It was a TV movies. I bet there was simply no budget to make additional changes

I’ve heard that the CG used in Earwig was meant to stimulate a stop motion feel for the characters.

@@MidoseitoAkage disagree, it was miyazaki and the studio which were the problems, they have plenty of experience to direct dynamic animation, yes ghibli movies are mostly 2D, but you cannot deny that those movies have "3D elements" that can be easily be translated into 3D media because that's just how talented they are, enough to be on par with the big studios of 3D animations had they hired professional 3D animators to help them, but then this one dumbass insisted that Goro should take the reins while knowing full well that he knows jack shit about animation in general, heck, even miyazaki warned them but for some reason these retards went with their decision till the end, afterwards resulting in miyazaki being a bitch about it, throwing a tantrum to his own son because miyazaki being miyazaki, and abandoned them while also knowing that they wont make anything decent out of it, turning the movie production into such a shitshow

That and to be honest, Hayao was also being a punk ass for not even trying to talk to his son. Goro cannot grow or draw on experiences of his father.

Maybe The place for Goro is not directing. I've particularly enjoyd Up On Poppy Hill and however not saw The TV series He directed, it makes some success and received good reviews - generally pointing The start of The series has some problems on pacing but it grows along The way. I think is unfair to consider that Goro is merely a fantoche of Suzuki or a farse. He's a boy Who grow around The works of Ghibli, is Hard to imagine someone not being enchanted with animation on a landscape like this. I think He Take The absurdly dificult shadow of Hayao on his back and tried, no matter hayao himself was against it. He's been around for at least 15 years, I think he's probably a young director searching for a voice but without any help. He allready had some better works, even with their (many) problems you can allready see some authoral intents on his work... Excerpt from this abomination of a movie... Maybe... Maybe If after Tales From Earthsea backlash Goro Take some time for an cinema and/or animation degrees, some time of experience helping older animators and productions, we can Really see what HE WANTS right now.

I just went to research about him as I didn't know this whole issue and I'm sorry for him. He should do something he like

Hayao would disown me immediately after birth if I were his son 😂

Agreed. He doesn't want to be a copy of Mayazaki. It's a pretty tough position for all inheritors of well-known master's or superstars.

I watched the NHK's documentary "10 years with Hayao Miyazaki". The recordings show that Goro is the one who refused his dad's help.

i was thinking the exact same thing

You cant really teach someone " magic" you have to have it natrually. His son thinks having the name sake of ghibli, its staff ans finance doesnt mean magic will be produced.

@@zuluzero4659 I hear what your saying but then that just means his father didn’t cultivate his sons natural magic or allow it to grow or even guide him. Like you said, No amount of money can be thrown at a problem to fix it. It’s kinda on the dad for not recognizing if his son had any potential for ghibli magic or not. There’s a way as a parent to guide your children and it seems like he didn’t even give his sone a fair shot and let any potential he would have had rot away.

@@zuluzero4659 His fathers was a asshole and that's a ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

he's from an older generation in a very traditional society, no wonder he grew up hasher and is a harsher person in result

@@yanstein8464 nah he is kinda of an natural born asshole honestly. You have testimonies of some of his past friends (people who grew up with him and are of the same generation) telling stories of him humiliating his son publicly, making a waitress cry etc... He's a dick. A very talented dick. But a dick nonetheless.

How was he harsh?

@@gogogoooooooooo I mean, at the screening of his sons film. After 5 minutes he got up and walked out saying that he had seen enough. I can imagine how soul crushing it must have been for him to see his own father doing that in front of him. If he's a dick like that to his own son, you can imagine how he is with most people in his life. He's still a genius. But he's also an asshole.

Yo what happened with Junji Ito??

Wasn't the beginning of his first movie a son killing the father with his own blade?

@@thepants1450 and in his second movie the protag doesn't have a dad. yeah i feel like goro is working through some stuff in his movies

I feel the opposite. I mean, a story like that relates to him the most in such a raw way. I think, if a story like that were ever to come into his possession, it might inspire him in a way nothing else has. But, who really knows.

I'd be suprised if we get another movie anytime soon and im sure the Studio is looking real hard for an heir or else the studio is well finished.

Oh yes, most indubitably.

@@MrBepis-qx5ye UNDOUNTABEBLY SUCC

as person who plays them, im telling, you are wrong mister.

as another person who plays them, I totally understand

That is insulting to City Skylines and the game's devs.

Someone said this once: A great filmmaker, but a bad father.

sounds like Picasso too. Great artist but not so great person.

@@onebraincellarmy6972 Many have said this many times. He's not only a bad father but also the most frightening boss. He shouts at you, denies all your work and says those are all shit. He calls you moron and retarded because you cannot finish even "the easiest work". And you cant tell shit back because he really can do things 10 times better than you with same effort and time. You could search how he shouted at Hideaki Anno when Anno was nobody, and how Anno still hates Miyazaki till this day, interesting story.

@@SlapstickGenius23 That's like saying there are worse criminals than the guy that just stole your wallet. Not really constructive.

@@cochan7347unrelated but amazingly this person is a communist. You'd think he would care about worker's rights but no.. (Edit: Please stop messaging me about communism and workers rights. I am getting a massive headaches from all the comments. It's not like I give a huge deal about communism either.)

Honestly i think he should make a movie about a house that constantly switches shape, size, and all to fit the current owner. He can do what he loves too while fitting in a story about moving out and being a comfortable with responsobilties and the fear that theres no one to help you out nearby but that it can still turn out great in the end.

I would pay to see that

Ponyo is kind of this. Miyazaki intended it as an apology towards Goro for his absence when he needed him. Notice how in the film, Sosuke's father is absent from the family due to being out at sea, which pisses off Sosuke's mom and in general leaves an empty space in the family? Despite this, he still loved his child Sosuke dearly even when he wasn't there. Sosuke was meant to represent Goro when he was younger while the dad was him. So in a sense, even though Ponyo is a cute movie, it's also kind of the story between him and Goro.

@@intreoo I actually havent watched Ponyo... thank's for letting me know. Ganna go watch it tonight

@@DioSpl It's a great movie with classic Ghibli energy, hope you enjoy it!

I cannot agree more! In fact From Up on Poppy Hill is my second favourite Studio Ghibli film

Yeah Earthsea and Earwig were definitely not great but From Upon on Poppy Hill tbh honestly rivals some of his father's works imo.

I agree as well, Goro Miyazaki needs to be his own person, not a copy of his dad.

@@minisqui7103 yes! its first place for me. :))

@@emersonlee5146 well probably because his father also worked on that film

i think he tried to replicate the simple beauty of life, but forgot all the small things that make it so beautiful in the first place like the swaying leaves of the trees or the songs of cicadas

@@kateellec3704 omg yes!! like they forgot the subconscious elements of everyday life or the mindless things that aren’t really payed attention to. such as warm lighting, leaves moving, even how someone places an object down or stirs a drink. those elements are what makes previous Ghibli films so comforting and well... captivating.

@@kateellec3704 Exactly ! It's like drawing figures without knowing or practicing about gesture drawings, those figures look so robotic. Something similar happened to this movie.

@@Chloe-ul3vd And it's really interesting when those "mindless" things that no one really focuses on are left out, it doesn't feel real!

Not to mention Coraline is stop-motion

@@kershrain9483, indeed. Which makes me think stop-motion would have suited this 3D Ghibli film more

that's also why I can't get into Miraculous Ladybug

@@AlessaParker you shouldn't anyway the fandom is really toxic and stupid...

@@Proudcitizenoffloptropica23 wait fr

I remembered a quote by Jackie Chan: "Would you go to every theater to tell the audience? No. The Audience see the movie. Good or bad. That´s all. Whatever you do, do the best you can, because the film lives forever."

Why did they create their own CG animation program? Whole films have been animated in Blender, a program with tons of support and a huge knowledge base, that look amazing.

Yep, as a made for TV movie, I feel it's not entirely fair to compare to big Pixar films or major Ghibli releases.. but it doesn't help that it HAS had theatrical release outside of Japan, which I think set unrealistic expectations. I think my kids will enjoy the Korean dub whenever we get a chance to see it, and that's good enough for me.

Hey guess what, if you want to test out new techniques, MAKE A SHORT! The main reason that Pixar’s mascot is a desktop lamp is because they started out by making numerous animated shorts where they would test out the lighting in a 3D setting. Every Pixar movie that debuts a new modelling or shading technique is prefaced by a short movie that explores the same thing. After a while, once you have filled your toolbox with new techniques that you have developed, you bring them all together into a feature length piece. What you don’t do, it’s just put a whole entire bare skeleton out there So people can watch you try and fail for 90 minutes to figure out what you are doing

@@alexmac101 That's the thing. They did. They made a 3D TV series before this... And the it looks better than this.

I know right "from up the poppy hill" is so simple yet the animation is so warm.

I agree, that was the first Goro animation that I know he put so much effort into it even during a natural disaster (if you watch the Miyazaki documentary). I agree, it would've been better to be in 2D film.

Is it true that Hayao said Poppy Hill wasnt good enough tho sldjdldkd like wtf??

Was about to say that. But you have to keep in mind that Hayao Miyazaki wrote the screenplay so maybe the story is so good because of that. I really hope, Goro can step out of Hayao's shadow and find his own voice.

@@gebbygebbers I did find the “maybe we are siblings” plot line quite jarring but other than that I really liked it. The animation style, especially the scene where a bunch of student clubs were crowded in the old school building has the charm other Ghibli films has, but is uniquely Goro. I hope he can keep going with 2D animation, succeed in it, and prove his dad wrong

there is "stuff" in it, but it is simultaneously so empty!

Animation and fps have less to do with eachother than you think

Completely disagree. They are different mediums but the language of is the same: a properly composed image works as a painting, a picture, a drawing or cg render. An image that is poorly structured is unable to convey meaning, regardless of the medium.

The worst part is, they really did great with the animation in Ni no Kuni, all the 3D models were as beautiful as their 2D works, so it's surprising to see what happened here.

You think Disney movies are animated at 24fps lmao

Lmao imagine turning it down and then getting mad like that. Props to Goro for even trying.

@@HorseSalon still, you gotta remember that OP is talking about tales of earthsea's history with both parties involved are going back and forth, fairly speaking, earthsea's ghibli adaptation is actually kinda okay, not amazing but watchable at least, for his debut, goro actually get the job done with that one while miyazaki is throwing a fit over it for years of rejection, ironic? I know earwig on the other hand, is an entirely different kind of story, and since the higher ups wanted to move to 3D and they once again pick goro for it since he's also an architect who is very familiar with 3D, while miyazaki once again..........being miyazaki, to be honest, had miyazaki helped goro to direct how the movie should look with his insight, earwig might actually work, again, history of animation can be so much different if miyazaki did things differently, including earthsea and not just earwig

Considering how many amazing animated films have been snubbed every year, they really should.

There do! Annie Awards in Hollywood and many awards for animations in Japan, covering voice acting, etc.

You should check out the Animators React series on Corridor. You'll learn so much about the effort they put in. They also have a VFX artists react , which is in the same realm.

In Europe there is the Annecy Crystal as biggest Animation award! Animation awards exist and there are many festivals as well, but it is still rather niche compared to Hollywood, especially in the west

Has Ponoc done anything other than Mary and The Witch's Flower? I saw that one and, while not as good as a Ghibli movie, didn't think it was as bad as what most people did.

@@chronicallychic I liked mary and the witch flower because it has DTS X 7.1 true surround sound.

@@chronicallychic modest heroes is another one that ponoc made, but other then those two I don't know of any other movies from the studio

Miyazaki mentored Anno.

the other problem is also that Studio Ghibli's other male directors have passed away and Miyazaki is either retiring and not, and also hesitant to give any of the female employees a chance to work on the film

Really? I actually think the character designs are pretty ugly. Maybe it’s just the way they’re moving/lit though

Y'all really are desperately trying to find anything positive to say. 💀 Denial, denial

@@neonice Dude you're the guy going to every positive comment to deposit your opinion on the local populace. If anyone's in denial, it's you.

@@neoniceeven a horrible, horrible product still has its own positives. This movie may be sub par in terms of its presentation, but it’s not bad to the point where the entire movie is fulled to the absolute brim with negatives. you’re the one in denial about that

I wouldn’t say it was badly animated so much as their story was boring, lacking and incomplete

I think it's time Jr give up trying to be his dad and step away from filmmaking. Ghibli needs to find a new direction.

@@TheZachary86 sooooo lifeless

@@fattiger6957 what about instead he steps away from studio ghibli and find his real story and art style, some people will fail and fail until they find themselves, if he's really passionate about making movies, he will listen to the criticisms.

Yup... same, but 3d animation was good, I have seen bad animation that's why and also it didn't feel like ghibli's work actually.

Don't worry; I'm sure poor Goro already got more than enough criticism and maybe even hate from his own father for this movie, that he doesn't really need to any more critiques.

That's great.. I feel bad for goro and let him do what he's rlly good at

You made me laugh dude. Now my wife is asking why I am laughing and I can't explain it.

Omg I would watch that tho hahaha

Tales from earthsea is rumored to be about hayao and goro

so basically an Ang Lee movie

That straight up sounds painful.

What pressure? He decided to ride on Hayao's coattails without putting in the work, and he became rich and famous because if it. Who you should really be sad for is all of the extremely talented animators with decades of experience that were passed over because of this nepotism.

@@aolson1111 bro hayao is literally such a garbage dad, when goro showed him up from poppy hill he WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM before the movie even started. yeah i'm sure goro has no issues with neglect at all s/

@@ahypocriticalorange Man, it sure sounds like Miyazaki had three children: his two sons and his artistic work. And he always loved his artistic work more than anything. I guess, that’s what makes him brilliant. You can’t be a family man and one of the greatest artists of your time. Because both require the same level of commitment and at some point you have to choose. So Miyazaki will be remembered as an amazing director and as a terrible father. You probably shouldn’t have kids if you want to commit to your work

Sometimes a father is afraid to see his son outshine himself and so he may slowly consume his son psychologically. That appears to be the case here.

@@gotchewz Yeah I mean you can have a career and kids but it really feels like Miyazaki decided he wasn’t gonna waste one drop of energy on his kids. If I was his daughter I would probably loath him.

Sometimes it's more honorable to realize your own limitations and step away. Then someone with talent and passion can take your place.

@@fattiger6957 I don’t think that notion works quite as well in Japan ahahah where family lineage / carreers is literally so prioritized eg Some of the oldest shops in the world are found in jp

@@eggbeater1682 It's not as strict as it used to be. For 100+ years, Nintendo's president was always from the Yamauchi family. That changed about 20 years ago when Satoru Iwata was made head of the company. I don't even know if anyone from the Yamauchi family still works there. If Nintendo can break 100 years of tradition, then anyone can. And Japan isn't a medieval country. Kids have different careers than their parents all the time. I'm sure Miyazaki's father wasn't an animator. No reason why Goro should feel obligated to stay in a job he isn't good at.

@@eggbeater1682 Plus even if this is his passion and what he wants to do, he just doesn't have the talent of his father (Doesn't help his father treats him like shit)

In the documentary on the Wind Rises there’s a bit with whether he wants to do this project at all and he asks why should I do this at all I’m not very good- but he comes around as he feels he has a responsibility to the workers of the studio to keep them employed essentially

That's usually the case with the technical part like lighting, color grading or visual effects; if well done the goal is to make it mix smoothly with the rest of whatever is on screen, rather than take the attention from it.

It’s why being a lighting artist in 3D is so challenging. There’s so much that goes into it.

it's funny to read you write "some one" and "realise" in and use "wrong" aimed at anyone. someone. realize.

@@kbrodeur Like most people english isnt my first language but you are probably not smart enough to understand that.

@@pantelisfilippidis5179 just funny how you're jabbing at this guy's animation using a language you're not 10/10 on. Just a note.

In the NHK's documentary "10 years with Hayao Miyazaki". The recordings show that Goro is the one who refused his dad's help.

Hmm just this reminds me of when my family put me in gymnastics but all I wanted to do is dance

@@subarusakamaki1 At least gymnastics can help improve your dance.

@@zhenyucai8688 but it is still NOT dance

That's not really the case with Goro. He loved animation as a kid. His father was pretty absent, so Goro was basically raised by his dad's movies. His mother didn't want him to go into the animation business (probably because of how absent Hayao had been), so he chose a different path. He went into architecture. It was only when Toshio Suzuki offered him a job that he pursued directing. He was unfamiliar, but not impassionate. His first film was Tales from Earthsea. He made really good choices in terms of art style. He had a good vision for the movie, but it was riddled with rookie mistakes. The plot was jumbled up into nonsense, the characters weren't properly fleshed out, and the dialogue was pedestrian. These mistakes weren't a lack of passion. They were a lack of experience. Next, he made From Up on Poppy Hill. That movie is fantastic and proves he has potential. Earwig and the Witch is not very good. He wanted to do something new for the studio, but it fell flat. This wasn't a lack of passion, which is evident by his excitement for the new movie in interviews. It was a lack of understanding in the medium. His resolve to keep making movies after criticism from movie critics, ghibli fans, and his own father proves that he is passionate. He just needs to learn. (Sorry for the rant)

Remember there are lots of better director want to work with Miyazaki. He has no animation background. He was able to be the director not because of his skill set but for having Miyazaki as his dad. You may can disagree with it but his work explains itself. I don’t really feel bad for him since he took the advantage of being his son instead of working himself up. We cannot really blame Miyazaki for his son’s bad work. They are two adults and professionals. Feeling pity for Goro without really knowing their private family story would may even be disrespectful for Goro as well.

might as well get a new dad huh buy them cheap on e bay today

Yeah - Hayao Miyazaki may be a great director/animator, but by all accounts he is a terrible father. It does seem Hayao's personal arrogance seems to outweigh leaving a legacy through his son.

Or if people would not bring down Goro's journey. No one starts perfect, especially not with that pressure. I just appreciate Goro for trying something super out of his comfort zone.

Goro really needs to step out of his father's shadow, leave Ghibli and actually do something with his life that he enjoys. He's never going to get his dad's approval and it's pretty clear talent wasn't genetic in this case. Continual mediocrity isn't going to do anything for him.

@@fattiger6957 I don't like the talent myth. I mean, it certainly exists, but when you see the work of a genius like Hayao, it's usually because the person was both talented AND had an enormous passion, which drove all their efforts into greatness. Goro might as well be very talented, but he's definitely not where he'd want to be, and he's being driven by responsibility and the desire to live up to his father's name (both terrible motivations for creative work)

@@pomponi0 Being an architect (and I guess that is what he also likes and is good at) he still inherited creativity and talent. In his case it's just not a talent for animation or for storytelling.... and of course as you said it could also be that he actually just does it out of responsibility and would prefer doing something else...

Really?!?!

@@AliceSiuASK Yes, this was done buy a somewhat new animation team, not old pros.

keep editing, edge lord. portafolio?

@@kbrodeur did this comment strike a nerve, baldie? calm down lol

@@alexfc679 that's the best you have, lol. Try harder, incel, guys like you need to stay away from children in general.

How does someone get forced into a leadership position at a large company? You can't blame Japanese family honor or whatever since his father didn't want him to do it. I feel like details are missing here.

But it’s still good... I hope hayao mizaki make more animation after 2012 they dicided to stop I think we need to appriciate more so studio ghibli can make more :)

You're kidding, right?

Xd

@@reveluvlp1714 I don't think Miyazaki will be alive after 2023.Damn I wish he was immortal

Wait what

Especially in a country like Japan where image, pride, family heritage and success in life is everything

Honestly, I love Poppy Hill, I agree it's an excellent film. I think I'd put it smack dab in the middle of all Ghibli movies, which is high praise.

I was looking for this comment! That movie is one of my favorites and it was directed by Goro,too! Probably as said in the video, he was inexperienced in 3d animation and this is why he struggled with Earwig and the witch

I really like From up on Poppy Hill too but you have to keep in mind it was scripted by Hayao Miyazaki himself and he did the screenplay. In an interview Goro even said that Hayao would come around making suggestions but never speaking to him directly. I don't want to discredit Goro but I think partly why Poppy hill was successful is because of his father. So I really hope he can find his own colour soon.

Ghibli can never be 3d at all. It is always going to be 2d permanently! (But I do pity Goro Miyazaki for doing his part)

He did try to go on a different path but ultimately ghibli’s fame had exploded at that time and he liked animation so he decided to go to ghibli to just train himself to become an animator which lead to making the biggest mistake of accepting that offer to direct the film which he knew that it would be a bad idea. (Hayao helped on poppy hill.)

@@blackberyy3450 what else do you think set "From up on poppy hill" apart from the other 2 films? I remember liking it, and Only Yesterday, that sort of slice of life

@@MsZsc because i think that this is the film he should have been making first but then got caught in direct a film way too early which caused some his films too feel not that good

This movie is about him (Earwig) and his Dad(both Earwigs real mom and the witch)..Both of them abandoned and doesnt guide the protagonist to become a better witch(film maker)

Interesting tip!

"... The greater good!" - ominous chorus of robed elders

I'm a skimpy 3D artist that does one day image renders, and I say use the darkness to hide my low effort and mistakes

@@goddepersonno3782 that's one way to do it yeah!!

Very true

Yes, we are not being purists. I love a lot 3D animated movies as well but it will never give me the same magical feeling 2D animation has. I don’t mind 3D animation existing I’m worried it will take over 2D animation because it’s easier or cheaper to produce

Trying??

After this movie I I doubt Ghibli will make another one

@@WeiYinChan what? how is 3d animation easier and cheaper to produce than 2d animation?

@@WeiYinChan From a computer science perspective, a lot of non-trivial math is involved in the production of 3D movies. Perhaps there's a disparity of experience between Ghibli and Pixar in this regard? The latter won a Turing award for contributions to computer science.

Really? I am surprised Miazaki could liek this dumpster fire. Thsi animations was complete trash, from design, to writting, everything was such low quality that i can't even asociate it iwth ghibli at all. I beleive Goro shouldn't go on his father's path. He must have other skills, cuz this one ain't it

maybe reread what he said? he didn't say it was good, just that it was a step in the right direction in terms of Goro setting himself apart from his father.@@marishkaspirit

​@@I_love_dr_stonestep in the right direction to the cliff😂

Doesn't change that the product is shit tbh

man y'all cant hope for anything or look forward to the future. its pretty sad

agreed everything about From Up on Poppy Hill was great👍

Yea from up on poppy hill was great!!

Well, he couldn't get a scene right in From up on Poppy Hill couldn't show the emotion then Hayao Miyazaki sent his team a pic where they could see the girl being lively and jumping, here in this movie he said I didn't take advice from the old man well this happens when u didn't took advice from him that u got many basics wrong.

Uncle Iroh

One of my fave quotes ❤

The only point in an Accented Cinema Video where I went Like Hit the Space bar so Fast And Shout "What?! What The Hyuck did you just say?!"

Also Accented Cinema: Use Pikamee clip in his video.

laughed out loud with that one

Lol I love both 2d and 3d animation I just wish 2d hand drawn wasn’t abandoned and treated like it’s obsolete and both were used for what story works best for what medium

@@cheetahluv210 Agreed. I'm a 3D animator myself and know how amazing 3D can be when used well and given enough time and budget. Problem is, that is exactly why 3D is more popular lately: because you can make it cheaply. So they try to cut as many corners as they can, the result comes out looking pretty much like most other 3D work of its tier and then 3D gets blamed for being garbage. It's kinda depressing, to be honest.

"I Became an Animation Director with My Overbearing and Unsupportive Father" could certainly work as a manga.

Well, Hayao has hugely disappointed both of his sons every now and then. He’s just so flawed that he isn’t even a complete monster in comparison to the early Archie Comics version of Doctor Eggman.

I mean, this is the guy whose first film made Miyazaki leave in between the screening of the film for a smoke break and saying it was atrocious.

Though both of Hayao’s sons are dysfunctional, they’re so disappointed in their father as well. Evidently, they are eventually branching out of the business.

He was put in charge of blockbuster movies despite no experience because of nepotism. What do you expect Hayao to do? Animation isn't something that you can teach over a weekend. It's something you work at for fucking decades. Goro wanted the fame and fortune of being a blockbuster director without having to work for it. Everything that has transpired is his fault.

@@aolson1111 If had asked his father to help enter in animation school, I'm pretty sure he would have helped Goro.

I’d watch the fuck out of that.

DAMN, i want that!

I want this to happen.

Oohh so interested

yeah I think miyazaki would be mad because he got mad at goro for making the tales from earthsea because "you should never make animation form personal emotion or experience"

All I kept seeing throughout these clips was a little gremlin make gleefully sadistic facial expressions, but it's supposed to be a child who's frustrated and driven. This sadly looks more like those awful knock-off CGI movies where the animators have no concept of the word "uncanny." It's absolutely cruel to keep throwing Goro into the director's chair WITH NO QUALIFICATIONS AT ALL TO DIRECT MOVIES.

what is your username. hahaha

@@Ryanin2D It's the anti-life equation.

@@AccentedCinema Oh shit Darkseid is coming!

I am glad that TMS stayed relevant with their CG Marza Studio. It is sad that Ghibli is sacrificing their 2D legacy with generic computer animation.

I miss pre-rendered cutscenes. We don’t see them much anymore 😢

Oh god, Ex-Arm, almost forgot that exists. It's like the reverse of Arc System Works.

@@AccentedCinema oh god, it is! They've done so well making their 3D blend with 2D while Ex-Arm just coughed up whatever the hell it was.

even worse when i realized the director only has experience in live-action production before doing Ex-Arm and there's no co-director who at least know how to direct animated media

@@AccentedCinema You should talk about ASW magical achievement of their graphic. A video game company that accomplished CGI Anime in the most successful way.

@@AccentedCinema Ex arm Doesn't Exist. Repeat after me. "Ex arm Does Not Exist"

Founder's problem if he didn't have a succession plan. You see this in large corporation all the time.

"Psychologically speaking, I'm stuck on ideas so old and so wrong, Carl Jung (who himself has been disproven since) had to reinvent the field of psychology just to get over this." The fact that we still have unapologetic Fruedians in the world is beyond infuriating.

I rly liked it besides the fact my feelings were confused for a bit

The "You said you would teach me!" line makes me thing Goro connects with this story pretty deeply...