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Why Good or Bad Conductors Make a WORLD of Difference 

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@cinemaburn-realtalk
@cinemaburn-realtalk 3 месяца назад
I'm an electrical engineer specialized in telecommunications. I was super happy to see a video about why good and bad conductors make a difference. I wasn't expecting this. Still enjoyed it 9/10
@adelinavasak2734
@adelinavasak2734 3 месяца назад
as a mechanical engineer, this comment made me cackle bc of your initial confusion, but curiosity to stay 😂😂 Twoset is wonderful, I hope you check out more of their videos !!
@MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat
@MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat 3 месяца назад
Lingling is the ultimate conductor, in both orchestras and electrical circuits.
@pakcikpingu3751
@pakcikpingu3751 3 месяца назад
lol your comment made my day 😂
@MashiloMagongoa
@MashiloMagongoa 2 месяца назад
Bwahahaha😂😂🎉
@klaasbil8459
@klaasbil8459 2 месяца назад
Having a good conductor is gold, wouldn't you agree?
@timsamong
@timsamong 3 месяца назад
This gives a really 2020-2021 TwoSetViolin vibe. I love these quality videos that delve into classical music, they're so entertaining and educational.
@yayalu8650
@yayalu8650 3 месяца назад
The reason why I clicked even tho it’s been so long since I’ve watched a twoset vid, this looked promising
@rachelt727
@rachelt727 3 месяца назад
Yes! I love all the classical music videos!
@samaritan29
@samaritan29 3 месяца назад
so how does that differ from 2022/2023-2024 "vibes"
@norobuxscamplzplzrobux5293
@norobuxscamplzplzrobux5293 3 месяца назад
Me as well!
@timsamong
@timsamong 3 месяца назад
@@samaritan29 It's rare to see them take out their violins and do a challenge, nowadays, it's mostly reacting and some other things unrelated at times.
@sabrinai
@sabrinai 3 месяца назад
If you can conduct slowly, you can conduct quickly.
@abyssalchaos7254
@abyssalchaos7254 3 месяца назад
😂
@kitrodriguez992
@kitrodriguez992 3 месяца назад
This joke has gone too far. If you can laugh slowly, you can laugh quickly.
@Pogginplays
@Pogginplays 3 месяца назад
If you can aMaZiNg slowly, you can aMaZiNg quickly!
@abyssalchaos7254
@abyssalchaos7254 3 месяца назад
If you can "p" slowly, you can "p" quickly
@adamkozakiewicz6766
@adamkozakiewicz6766 3 месяца назад
True, but you get hotter, quadratically.
@xpreame3406
@xpreame3406 3 месяца назад
I felt very safe is my new compliment for when someone does a good job
@Peztastic
@Peztastic 3 месяца назад
It does have many applications
@yujuti8416
@yujuti8416 3 месяца назад
I teach private music lessons. I tell my students "you have to make your band director feel safe to put you on 1st chair"
@jendakrynicky5218
@jendakrynicky5218 3 месяца назад
"I feel safe with you" is a fairly common (and strong) compliment from a (dancing) follower to a leader. :-)
@minikawildflower
@minikawildflower 3 месяца назад
Good point about the rehearsals too - I often think that a big part of the conductor's job is NOT what they do on the podium at the concert, it's how they prep the orchestra. A great conductor could still do a good job on minimal rehearsal, but the ideal situation is that they have rehearsal time to prep the orchestra for what they want on the day of.
@sergeirachmaninoff7805
@sergeirachmaninoff7805 3 месяца назад
i mean yes and no. for amateur orchestras yes, but for professionals oftentimes these players have played these works dozens with different conductors. they’ve done the prep already over the course of their career. big professional orchestras often get only one rehearsal before these concerts, *maybe* two if they’re lucky and it’s a lot of unusual music. lots of these conductors- maybe with the exception of people like karajan who were with the same orchestra for decades- tweak small details in their one rehearsal but otherwise there’s very minimal actual prep. so they really do need to be super clear- there’s more leeway for orchestras who get multiple rehearsals and get to more time to understand/memorize specific gestures
@minikawildflower
@minikawildflower 3 месяца назад
@@sergeirachmaninoff7805 I think for the pros, it’s not that the prep helps them learn the piece, but that it helps them to know what the conductor wants. So what might be unclear conducting on a cold viewing could be perfectly fine if you’ve had a rehearsal and gotten a feel for what they plan to do.
@Gisechan
@Gisechan 3 месяца назад
​@@sergeirachmaninoff7805 Not even professional orchestras rehearse only once and on with the concert. Maybe for a Beethoven or Mozart symphony but no way you can work all the details and personal vision in only one rehearsal if what is in the program is a Mahler symphony or something like that.
@bobblade2681
@bobblade2681 3 месяца назад
I think of them as directors for a movie but an orchestra. They are there to impart a vision
@Trumpyfilip
@Trumpyfilip 3 месяца назад
Yeah in the US is one rehearsal I heard, but in Europe the symphony gets at least 2 + dress rehearsal. Plus at least 1 for the first half. So they do get to dive a bit deeper into the piece. Speaking of big pro orchestras ofc, not some 1 reharsal shit gig ahah
@carolpoblete8228
@carolpoblete8228 3 месяца назад
Eddy has jumpstarted his conductor journey by messing-up his hair 😅
@cherylcogan3542
@cherylcogan3542 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I was wondering why his hair was a mess. Thanks for your insight
@loonpond
@loonpond 3 месяца назад
Wild hair, don't care.
@Annie-i6q
@Annie-i6q Месяц назад
lmao
@apricity4290
@apricity4290 3 месяца назад
Copper is a good conductor
@The_miku_enjoyer
@The_miku_enjoyer 3 месяца назад
Hi
@rhonemeyer4277
@rhonemeyer4277 3 месяца назад
Very true words
@jub8891
@jub8891 3 месяца назад
so is rubbing alcohol
@el-booboo9324
@el-booboo9324 3 месяца назад
@@jub8891 Rubbing alcohol is not a good conductor of electricity and heat
@TheAyanMan
@TheAyanMan 3 месяца назад
:)
@soupchops
@soupchops 2 месяца назад
For reference! 0:54 Masato Usuki 2:16 Leonard Bernstein 3:17 Daniel Barenboim 4:14 John Eliot Gardiner 5:09 Christian Thielemann 6:28 Simon Rattle 7:18 Herbert Von Karajan 8:26 Myung-Whun Chung 9:31 Mikhail Pletnev 10:50 Gianandrea Noseda 11:37 Karl Bohm 12:44 Seiji Ozawa
@Loki-po8qz
@Loki-po8qz 3 месяца назад
I was privileged enough to play in a concert with Rattle a few months ago, he came out of retirement to play with our youth orchestra. This man is unholy. During rehearsal he could pick out the tiniest details which even we didnt notice looking st our parts, and elevaate the sound to another level. He wasnt just conducting he was making music.
@stevieb6368
@stevieb6368 2 месяца назад
Sir Simon hasn't retired at all. He's currently Chief Conductor of the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra and guest Conductor of the Czech Philharmonic.
@AurinneA
@AurinneA Месяц назад
There's an old YT video of him doing a live rehearsal with a youth orchestra of In the Hall of the Mountain King in front of an audience and it's fascinating. It must have been so amazing for you to experience something like that yourself!
@alemutasa6189
@alemutasa6189 3 месяца назад
A good conductor is consistent in his/her moves and, most importantly, MAKES FACES. It's not always obvious to us musicians following a score what energy to give to the performance by hand gestures alone: a good angry or relaxed face make all the difference
@DameMitHermelin
@DameMitHermelin 3 месяца назад
Somehow, I immediately thought of Carlos Kleiber... 🤭
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 3 месяца назад
You mean like Ricardo Muti?
@lapissakura4653
@lapissakura4653 3 месяца назад
So, like a good sign language interpreter!
@tasmanianlord5269
@tasmanianlord5269 3 месяца назад
​@@DameMitHermelin the best
@hansmahr8627
@hansmahr8627 3 месяца назад
Then again, there were some great conductors who were pretty unclear in their movements. Furtwängler was probably the most famous, the Berlin Phil musicians sometimes complained about his vague way of giving the beat. The story is that they convinced him to try out a more clear style but he absolutely hated how it sounded. Furtwängler liked the lack of clarity because he thought it made for a more organic and improvisational sound. Considering that he's one of the greatest conductors of all time, he was probably right. You can actually hear it on his recordings, the different sections of the orchestra often don't come in at exactly the same time. It's subtle but it does allow you to hear the different lines more clearly. Of course you can only do that with a world-class orchestra like the Berlin Phil, with a less distinguished orchestra the result would probably be absolute chaos.
@selguerra
@selguerra 3 месяца назад
There should be part two. We'd love to see more of you playing under different conductors and giving your on-point impressions.
@seunggillee9554
@seunggillee9554 3 месяца назад
Hello
@nadianehope
@nadianehope 3 месяца назад
Currentzis should be in part 2
@selguerra
@selguerra 3 месяца назад
And Dudamel.
@yannisgauler6519
@yannisgauler6519 2 месяца назад
And also definitely Abbado
@poorwotan
@poorwotan Месяц назад
Furtwangler?
@Elevate-music1
@Elevate-music1 3 месяца назад
For every like this gets I will practice for 1 hour …If I hold my instrument in my sleep does that count as practicing?
@jupalaja
@jupalaja 3 месяца назад
There you go @Elevate-music1, 40 Hours!!
@Paul-sv4pm
@Paul-sv4pm 3 месяца назад
Cringe
@Elevate-music1
@Elevate-music1 3 месяца назад
but real 👍
@irenes8689
@irenes8689 3 месяца назад
Looks like you'll be practicing everyday for an hour 😊
@Elevate-music1
@Elevate-music1 3 месяца назад
@@irenes8689 thats what my channel is for 😅
@zarakoda
@zarakoda 3 месяца назад
Jaw dropped at your 5 mil RU-vid symphony suggestion. If that can happen that'd be amazing!!!!!!
@toramenor
@toramenor 3 месяца назад
Yes, I really want to see that too! A pretty ambitious task putting it all together... but if anyone can manage it, they can!
@MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat
@MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat 3 месяца назад
Yes, gave me goosebumps about how they went from this niche little music channel to one of the most influential things that's happened to classical music in our time! All my musician friends, classical or not, watch and adore them!
@Summer_Lee
@Summer_Lee 3 месяца назад
Would LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT!
@apriloster1089
@apriloster1089 Месяц назад
Yes! Clarinetist and conductor here and TOTALLY down for that!
@xx3xx3
@xx3xx3 3 месяца назад
My dad once performed with Karajan when he was still in uni and he is still IMPRESSED.
@janefaceinthewind6260
@janefaceinthewind6260 2 месяца назад
That's wonderful!! What precisely found he impressive? I need details please 🙏❤️
@ACaraM
@ACaraM 3 месяца назад
Time to make a video on semiconductors next.
@jub8891
@jub8891 3 месяца назад
ive got a semi right now
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 3 месяца назад
Twoset physics!
@clawsoon
@clawsoon 3 месяца назад
Don't forget inductors. (I assume that means "people who pretend to conduct in their basements".)
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 3 месяца назад
@@clawsoon Do they share the basement with Editor-san? ;)
@itamarferreiradecarvalho487
@itamarferreiradecarvalho487 3 месяца назад
Gostei! ❤
@Lil-toomuchaboutLinguistics
@Lil-toomuchaboutLinguistics 3 месяца назад
I’ll just say: I found this channel April 2 years ago. They pulled me out of a tough spot and saved me from having to repeat the 10th grade. Now, I’m sitting here writing this comment only a few hours after I walked across the stage. I’ll never forget these videos. They are such treat to watch, and I’ve genuinely learned a lot. I wish you all the best, and please never lose this beautiful talent.
@anonymous891
@anonymous891 3 месяца назад
Such a beautiful comment!! Thanks for writing this. This inspires me to move on with my own life too!! Let's hope we both meet one day and I get to say the same thing you said but this time about your comment. And remember if you can inspire slowly, you can inspire fastly😊 Gotta go practice now
@Swishyhead
@Swishyhead 3 месяца назад
Congrats on your graduation! 🤩 Whatever your future holds, I hope it makes you happy, and I hope you're proud of everything you've accomplished to get to this stage.
@bethhentges
@bethhentges 2 месяца назад
Congratulations 🎉
@sugarshosty
@sugarshosty 3 месяца назад
8:02 Berlin Phil = Bergen Phil confirmed
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 3 месяца назад
Lol!
@SusanneHochmann
@SusanneHochmann 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@Irishlassmm2
@Irishlassmm2 3 месяца назад
I was wondering whaaaat?
@justinbchen
@justinbchen 3 месяца назад
I had to double check the principal conductor lists to make sure Karajan didn't conduct at Bergen
@shylockwesker5530
@shylockwesker5530 2 месяца назад
That's in Norway, isn't it?
@leonpetrich5864
@leonpetrich5864 3 месяца назад
People like to give Rattle shit for just being a showman but hes actually a phenomenal conductor, very clear and very knowledgeable.
@itamarferreiradecarvalho487
@itamarferreiradecarvalho487 3 месяца назад
Concordo em 200%
@Capuzzi09
@Capuzzi09 Месяц назад
In fact, he was one of the greatest conductors in the world imo. did he make a show? Of course, he did, every conductor makes it when he gained a certain amount of reputation. But besides that, he conducted very clearly and with brilliant accuracy.
@lingodelfo5415
@lingodelfo5415 3 месяца назад
As someone who has never played in an orchestra, this video was very interesting, but I want MORE!!! More explanation what makes a conductor clear or not, what's some unique features conductors do or how they interpret pieces, and conductor comparisons with dofferences and similarities and maybe some kinds of groups? Like, do Russian conductors do something American ones don't etc
@NZC_Meow
@NZC_Meow 3 месяца назад
Samee
@Halberds6
@Halberds6 3 месяца назад
I'll try to give you some info. A good conductor makes clear movements and will usually be on the beat. They can use their spare hand (the one not holding the baton) to contro the orchestra's volume.
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 3 месяца назад
The best thing about Russian conductors is that many of them speak no English, so they can't bore you to death with their "brilliant" insights into the music.
@qwmx
@qwmx 2 месяца назад
You are commenting things with substance and asking the real questions. Take my like.
@yeeaahhzz
@yeeaahhzz 2 месяца назад
"ERRY BODY DIFFERENT" is your answer.
@Camille-Saint-Saens
@Camille-Saint-Saens 3 месяца назад
The best conductors practice 41 hours a day.
@rebeccalassetter1726
@rebeccalassetter1726 3 месяца назад
Should be the top comment
@MaimiZhang
@MaimiZhang 3 месяца назад
But Ling Ling will practice 40 milliseconds and will still do it better than we think.
@joey-schmoey
@joey-schmoey 3 месяца назад
What happened to the last hour
@LlLl-wh2to
@LlLl-wh2to 3 месяца назад
(llamaboz) Surely Ling Ling is also an experienced conductor - in both orchestra and physics!
@Doutsoldome
@Doutsoldome 2 месяца назад
Still missing by one the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
@r3adrpro811
@r3adrpro811 3 месяца назад
What Karl Bohm could convey by just his eyes snd shoulders is fascinating. And Von Karajan showed why he was so great. I am sorry you did not include Georg Solti. I had the pleasure of hearing him conduct this from "his" box at Symphony Hall in Chicago snd it was amazing - one of the greatest musical experiences of my life!
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 3 месяца назад
Common wisdom is that many musicians went to Solti's funeral, just to make sure he was dead.
@itamarferreiradecarvalho487
@itamarferreiradecarvalho487 3 месяца назад
Solti realmente era muito bom.
@nancyjfs
@nancyjfs 3 месяца назад
I learned more about the differences between conductors in this video than I have learned in decades of symphony going. Thanks!
@sabrinai
@sabrinai 3 месяца назад
The best part of this video is hearing them play seriously, at least to the best to their or the conductor's ability.
@LinhChi93
@LinhChi93 3 месяца назад
This video is essentially "Keep up with the Konductors" 🤣
@yiyuewu1984
@yiyuewu1984 3 месяца назад
I don't get it
@That_one_idiot_over_there
@That_one_idiot_over_there 3 месяца назад
It's a play on the show "keeping up with the Kardashians"​@@yiyuewu1984
@jenlau3954
@jenlau3954 3 месяца назад
​@@yiyuewu1984 "Keeping up with the Kardashians", "Keeping up with the Konductors"
@siritio3553
@siritio3553 2 месяца назад
@@jenlau3954 Who tf are the Kardashians?
@hebedechampeaux
@hebedechampeaux 2 месяца назад
As a conductor and violinist, I find this incredibly educational. Bravo TwoSet!
@hebedechampeaux
@hebedechampeaux 2 месяца назад
I'd be up for the youtube symphony :)
@ellina.cats3021
@ellina.cats3021 3 месяца назад
me watching twoset instead of practice: 😃
@beasterv
@beasterv 3 месяца назад
me too 😂
@chairuwu4903
@chairuwu4903 3 месяца назад
go practice!
@tammylaronde8593
@tammylaronde8593 3 месяца назад
@@chairuwu4903I’m practicing watching TwoSet. 😆
@moriokayuri
@moriokayuri 3 месяца назад
I know the first one, because I'm studying conducting, the maestro counts up to 3 because, Beethoven's 5th doesn't start at downbeat, it has a eighth rest on donwnbeat, so the orchestra actually plays after the donwbeat, that's why he gives the tempo prior to the downbeat, it's not on any formal conducting guide, but, it has been adopted by most conductors and it became a good practice, because Beethoven's 5th is easy to play and very hard to conduct.
@clarisaxpianist
@clarisaxpianist 3 месяца назад
That’s a good point! I remember many times during my concert career where the conductor would give us a measure of conducting to set up the tempo before we come in. It’s hard to anticipate this if not told about beforehand, though
@lucasgust7720
@lucasgust7720 3 месяца назад
7:59 Simon Rattle was also chief of the Berliner Philharmoniker.
@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 3 месяца назад
And abbado
@SusanneHochmann
@SusanneHochmann 3 месяца назад
Yes, but he did resign - never got my head around that. Come on, you don‘t just resign from Berlin Phil !!!
@Lyoneastroy
@Lyoneastroy 3 месяца назад
He just figured out Munich has way better beer! 😄 (he is with BR now in Munich)
@SusanneHochmann
@SusanneHochmann 3 месяца назад
@@Lyoneastroy 😀 I know, but still…I can’ t help but feel a bit offended by Sir Simon… there always was a huge glass of wheat beer for him backstage at the Philharmonie….😀
@joesoy9185
@joesoy9185 8 дней назад
@@SusanneHochmann Well, Bavaria has very good wheat beer, including Erdinger, but I think the reason for his leaving the Berlin Phil is to lead a less stressful life.
@himbomanrilej
@himbomanrilej 3 месяца назад
loving how different they all are? there's such room for nuance, little decisions that make a performance unique. so glad I'm getting into classical music
@elgar104
@elgar104 2 месяца назад
Fantastic ! For orchestral players this is hysterical stuff. Thank you SO much for the work that you do. The industry owes you both a massive debt.
@belleclose
@belleclose 3 месяца назад
I love how your attitudes are so different when you play, kind of like a golden retriever and a cat, with Brett having the biggest smile on his face while Eddy is so concentrated he almost looks angry at times...
@kkcliffy2952
@kkcliffy2952 3 месяца назад
I've struggled to explain the importance of conductors to my non-musician friend. She thinks we should all essentially be robots and magically stay in time with each other without needing someone to conduct. I think I'll send her this video and see if that gets it through her head
@ogolthorp
@ogolthorp 3 месяца назад
I always say the conductor is like the coach of a sports team. CAN the players play a game without the coach? Yes, but they’re much better with a sense of direction from a single person.
@bryanryan4504
@bryanryan4504 2 месяца назад
Tell her she's ignorant
@simplytwosetter
@simplytwosetter 3 месяца назад
Brett and Eddy back to the orchestra YES WE WANT TO SEE THAT!! RU-vid Symphony YES WE WANT TO SEE THAT!! Please make it happen!! We need to get to 5M!! Eddy as the concertmaster and Brett as the principal of the second violin lol, both of you need to try sth new!
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 3 месяца назад
I would like that instead of a new concert. It's hard topping Brett's Mendelson, Hope all Twosetters that play an instrument can be part of it. The only problem is them reaching 5 mil, they have been on 3,0 for too long. Thougt it would go up with touring, but it isn't.
@SusanneHochmann
@SusanneHochmann 3 месяца назад
Yup, I second that!
@maestroclassico5801
@maestroclassico5801 3 месяца назад
A RU-vid Symphony....maybe like the NBC Symphony was in the 30s, 40s, and 50s.....
@pheonix4866
@pheonix4866 3 месяца назад
a youtube symphony would be absolutely epic
@maestroclassico5801
@maestroclassico5801 3 месяца назад
@@pheonix4866 It would need to be a veteran commanding conductor with a cast repertoire as Toscanini and Stokowski were. Rattle? Salonen? Dudamel? Welser-Most? Noseda? Gatti? Slatkin? Vanska? Thielemann?
@simplytwosetter
@simplytwosetter 3 месяца назад
I love Eddy's serious face when he tried to focus and play😂fangirling rn lol While Brett is a cuttie pie who smiles through everything lol Love them so much!!!
@twosetter40
@twosetter40 3 месяца назад
This is so real like bro look at his smile
@simplytwosetter
@simplytwosetter 3 месяца назад
I feel like I haven't seen them play in their video for a very long time, now finally!! I know they are on tour and everything so they don't have time to practice pieces for their video, so I really hope that after their tour is done, they can record some serious playing videos like before!! I love seeing them playing together so much!!
@Koffeefr
@Koffeefr 3 месяца назад
yo you changed your profile pic
@Mnimosa
@Mnimosa 3 месяца назад
"Carnegie is too small... ... ...We'll do it in space!"
@hayleyleiberman8491
@hayleyleiberman8491 3 месяца назад
This was really cool to see! I haven't always understood when they say a conductor is good or bad, but this side by side comparison really helped to pinpoint what makes a conductor easy to follow!
@VoidWalkerOblivion
@VoidWalkerOblivion 3 месяца назад
What really got me was that I could see the delay between the conductor and the musician. Logically, of course there's a beat where everyone processes what was 'said', but as the audience you just kind of think that the conductor baton and the sound should be an instantaneous match. Weird thing to take away with, I know.
@toramenor
@toramenor 3 месяца назад
Plus, the conductor has to prepare for cues in advance, because if he/she is giving the cue "on time", it's already too late for the musician... it must be weird for the conductor to essentially hear the whole thing before the sound appears, but I bet it's an amazing feeling. Like, you ask for this sound you have in your head, and then, as if by magic, it's there! (If the orchestra is good & you were clear with what you wanted from them)
@adrienovigne3077
@adrienovigne3077 3 месяца назад
​@@toramenor thanks for this thread. I know nothing of orchestra, and was wondering if the video incrustation and them playing was delayed as the conductor was always ahead haha. Now i understand better 😊
@clarisaxpianist
@clarisaxpianist 3 месяца назад
So the “delay” actually isn’t that much in this piece because a lot of the music in Beethoven 5 is played on the off beats rather than directly on the beats, which is what conductors show. However, there is still definitely a dance between conductor and musician to ensure the ensemble is playing together and not make it feel like musicians are strictly following the conductor or that the conductor has no role. Simultaneously, as an exercise I’ve had conductors just stop conducting and force the ensemble to continue playing through listening alone
@dpainter1526
@dpainter1526 3 месяца назад
You're not alone, that was a revelation to me too😅
@ogolthorp
@ogolthorp 3 месяца назад
A big reason is a lot of the hits in this piece are on the upbeat. So the conductor hits the downbeat and you play on the upbeat.
@SusanneHochmann
@SusanneHochmann 3 месяца назад
What a fun video! What I found interesting, that they played differently with every conductor. Not only different tempo, but also different colours, vibe, energy. I absolutely love this! Will rewatch a few more times, because there is so much going on! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Guys, can I just say, I love your passion for music!
@stefanstern-ip8tk
@stefanstern-ip8tk 3 месяца назад
This, gentleman, is a great video. I work as a conductor in the pit for ballet and musical theater. My focus is on being as clear as possible. It might not look flashy, but the musicians feel good (Well, I hope....)
@newbie4789
@newbie4789 3 месяца назад
Seiji Ozawa guy's movements were soo nice to watch. And no, I'm not a musician in any shape or form but I could hear the music from his movements for some reason. It was soo nice
@AKoribut
@AKoribut Месяц назад
I found out that maestro Ozawa passed away recently. Rest in Piece maestro and huge thanks for your wonderful recordings!
@davidaronson9475
@davidaronson9475 14 дней назад
How sad. He was my first conductor. My parents live down the street: From 1964 until 1968, Ozawa served as the first music director of the Ravinia Festival,[1] the summer home of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. In 1969 he served as the festival's principal conductor. I was 10 and we went to several concerts that year.
@irenatriskova3938
@irenatriskova3938 3 месяца назад
I've crossed my fingers for Sir Simon Rattle. His wife - opera singer Magdalena Kozena - comes from my hometown Brno. She supports Czech art schools for children. And I love you boys, you are awesome. Btw, pronuntiation of Sevcik is soft, like Shevtcheek. So is csardas, like tchardash 😉
@saruphim2548
@saruphim2548 Месяц назад
Karajan is my favorite. Absolutely brilliant and his command over the orchestra is always palpable
@__m-_9693
@__m-_9693 3 месяца назад
I'm loving Eddys excentric music genius hair style ♡ fangirling so hard!
3 месяца назад
This was excellent! Invaluable feedback. In my humble opinion, every conductor or aspiring conductor shold watch this.
@amandas.6500
@amandas.6500 3 месяца назад
For your 5M symphony concert, TwoSet, who do you want to conduct you?
@Hannah-CatLady
@Hannah-CatLady 3 месяца назад
Ling Ling ofc 😂
@steveburkey
@steveburkey 2 месяца назад
@@Hannah-CatLady 🤣❤
@mrebear9758
@mrebear9758 3 месяца назад
And that's why Karajan is the GOAT.
@devynnagy
@devynnagy 3 месяца назад
It's always a good day when TSV uploads!
@ogolthorp
@ogolthorp 3 месяца назад
It’s also worth mentioning that often times conductors will tell the orchestra what certain gestures mean in certain spots in the music. So a single rehearsal often clears up any ambiguity.
@pbj1984
@pbj1984 2 месяца назад
What a COOL experiment!! And SO illustrates the importance of rehearsals, where the orchestra learns what the conductor wants you to look at, and how to interpret his/her arm movements and facial expressions! (Although... I sang in a high school chorus many years ago for a summer youth music festival, and there were a couple of pieces we performed with the high school orchestra, but the conductor SUDDENLY changed his entire arm movements for the ending of one of the pieces -- almost like changing the steps of a dance without notifying the partner! -- and the orchestra and chorus became seriously disconnected -- and we were doing it for a recording, so it was memorialized... I remember thinking to myself, "What do those arm movements mean?? What does he want us to do??!?" In your language, I suddenly felt VERY unsafe!! And I remember that frightening feeling to this day!!) But there is also the joke about what a conductor does during the actual concert, and the answer is that he starts waving his arms when the music starts, and needs to stop precisely when the music stops. 😉🤣
@sloth0jr
@sloth0jr 3 месяца назад
I really admire the pure love you have for musicianship, and could hear the wistfulness in the desire to get back to orchestral playing.
@alexismandelias
@alexismandelias 3 месяца назад
Timestamps: 00:55 - Masato Usuki 02:15 - Leonard Bernstein 03:18 - Daniel Barenboim 04:14 - John Eliot Gardiner 05:10 - Christian Thielemann 06:28 - Simon Rattle 07:18 - Herbert von Karajan 08:26 - Myung-Whun Chung 09:31 - Mikhail Pletnev 10:51 - Gianandrea Noseda 11:38 - Karl Böhm 12:44 - Seiji Ozawa
@michaelcraig666
@michaelcraig666 3 месяца назад
I think the Berlin Phil. is always going to have a good conductor because the musicians get to choose the conductor. Also, from my conducting class, this is a challenging piece to conduct...especially the beginning...it demands rehearsal. And Pletnev is a pianist who does some conducting now that he's older...ijs.
@norenemorrow6362
@norenemorrow6362 3 месяца назад
Great video! I am mainly a choral conductor, but played violin in orchestras and sang with orchestras when I was a kid so I do understand the importance of clarity from both perspectives. I loved your video because I have often watched performances where I could not understand what the conductor was doing - so many superfluous gestures and shaky batons. It is so refreshing to realize that even the greats are not that great when it comes to clarity. I guess when an orchestra rehearses with one conductor on a regular basis they get to know their style/idiosyncrasies, and then learn to anticipate or adapt. Also, learning that the concert master has such an important role in leading the orchestra was a real revelation to me. I knew that the violins follow them for things like bowing, but I did not realize that they sometimes have to compensate for a bad conductor. Thank you.
@shubus
@shubus 3 месяца назад
How very different all these conductors are. It always brings to question how much of the conducting is for the audience and how much for the orchestra. There is always a great deal of theater involved. If you saw Bernstein in rehearsal, he usually just sat on a stool often with little more than marking the tempo--quite different from his live performances which are always highly animated. Seeing Simon Rattle in rehearsal, he is quite animated in rehearsal and in performance--check out his outstanding conducting of Britten's "Young Peoples Guide"
@harmonyrose7344
@harmonyrose7344 3 месяца назад
I recently joined my local community orchestra (violin) this year, and I’ve learned that the hardest part is figuring out who to follow. I think the trick is that you don’t ONLY follow the conductor (bc sometimes I’m like wth was that movement supposed to mean?) You actually follow the conductor AND the section leader, and you also learn which other instruments share your phrase or syncopate with your phrase etc and listen to them. You also listen to the overall direction of the piece and fit in that.
@andrewhcit
@andrewhcit 3 месяца назад
I like to think of all music as chamber music. Even with a conductor, you still use all the same cues that you would use when playing chamber music without a conductor.
@Saskatchetooner
@Saskatchetooner 3 месяца назад
Concertmaster first than conductor
@clonebin0
@clonebin0 3 месяца назад
14:40 "do it in space" 😂
@JihoonKcello
@JihoonKcello 3 месяца назад
You're only a real conductor when you make people cry from how much you move.
@jaegertiger384
@jaegertiger384 3 месяца назад
Now... you've got 80 hrs of daily practice time ahead of you: 1. Individual Practice - 40 hrs 2. Orchestral Skills Practice - 40 hrs
2 месяца назад
This is the best apology for orchestra conducting that exists. Feeling safe is the best compliment I've ever heard. I think that at the beginning you must be very clear in the mechanical gesture as when working with youth orchestras, here clearly the conductor makes a significant difference in the interpretation however, conducting is a mastery which means that we focus on details of the interpretation, the musicality and even the collective transcendence through the neuroconducting technique of the piece. It's like a pyramid of types of gesture but and above all that, as my Maestro Paolo Bortolameolli once told me, ultimately, all the information should be solely in the movement of the baton. The youtube symphony orchestra was created as one of the most ambitious orchestral realityshow project in the world once, it is time to invoke it once again and if there is anyone who can achieve it, it is you. Greetings from the end of the world, southern of Chile
@miyatuonto
@miyatuonto 3 месяца назад
*checks if the master made it* "did the concert master made it?" "yeah" "... not a good conductor" and everyone, that's how you can know if the conductor is just confusing or bad 🙉😆
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 3 месяца назад
I'm confused If the ConcertMaster is good, how does that mean the conductor is bad?
@herstoryanimated
@herstoryanimated 3 месяца назад
​@@pokedude720 (I don't play so don't roast me if I'm wrong) I think it's a case of - if everyone is having to follow the concert master and is ignoring the actual conductor, then the conducting is sh*t. I know it's ok to follow the concert master as a backup, but I think you're supposed to follow the conductor unless there's a problem (you can't see him very well etc.)
@miyatuonto
@miyatuonto 3 месяца назад
@@pokedude720 im really sorry for confusing you, ahhh😭😭 so at 2:08 time stamp, eddy and brett checked if the concertmaster made it in time in the connductor's conducting (from what i understand, the conducting was pretty fast and confusing in a way, sorry for confusing you agaiin!😭😭)
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 3 месяца назад
@@miyatuonto ah, I see now I was confused b/c they said "led" meaning the CM was doing the implied leading over him; while "made" in the comment implied that the CM was able to understand and clarify what the conductor was doing.
@secretregion365
@secretregion365 3 месяца назад
omg guys i discovered your channel like couple of days ago and been binging all videos. love your content, please keep going ❤
@xandraxandra1437
@xandraxandra1437 3 месяца назад
Welcome! You have lots and lots of videos going through. Hope you learn about LingLing and Editor-san quickly. It helps understanding the jokes.
@secretregion365
@secretregion365 3 месяца назад
@@xandraxandra1437 thank u so much! this community is so kind, welcoming and talented. i already know who editor-san is, she is sooo cool and funny, it is such a dream to be friends with her 😍 i think i watched ~80 videos on this channel + some interviews/q&a/etc. and pressed "like" button on more than 50 of them so i can rewatch them later. brett and eddy have such strong bond and chemistry: i will never get bored of them. sorry for my english 🫡
@josephineraeburn5809
@josephineraeburn5809 3 месяца назад
Great video - funny and informative. TSV video is like a serotonim pill. Very interesting idea as always. I was impressed at how Eddy is so analytical, to find out why they were not able to follow the conductor such as the conductor added an extra beat, there was a video cut, confusing hand movement , following the tipany etc.
@birdgirl2623
@birdgirl2623 3 месяца назад
It's also very interesting to see the different conducting styles and interpretations of the music.
@okko16
@okko16 2 месяца назад
12:45 He really conducts with his hair.
@JudyCBell
@JudyCBell 2 месяца назад
An old lady here saying your two provided a very good time for me. Thank you. So joyful.
@charlations
@charlations 3 месяца назад
This was such a cool concept!!!! And I love how it was with such an explosive piece too!!!
@toxications
@toxications 3 месяца назад
This is one of the better videos I've seen from you in months.
@sabrinai
@sabrinai 3 месяца назад
RU-vid Symphony LET'S GOOOOO!!!!
@The-Wordsmith
@The-Wordsmith 3 месяца назад
In the '90s, I was lucky enough to attend nearly all of Sir Simon Rattle's concerts (as well as talks, meets and greets etc) when he was Director of the BSO,. You could tell that the orchestra loved and respected him. Still the best I've ever seen live*... both at engaging the audience (choosing interesting programmes/interacting/being playful) and being clear in his musical vision. The fact that TwoSet could follow him well and Brett felt 'safe' is testament to his skills. *Disclaimer: I never got to see von Karajan or Ozawa :)
@ssh1025
@ssh1025 2 месяца назад
Masato Usuki! I played under his button many times including Beethoven 5 about 20 years ago. I still remember the feeling of Beet 5 beginning. He never cared musicians playing on time, but asks some kind of energy every time.
@nigelt4257
@nigelt4257 3 месяца назад
Great video. Thanks. Beethoven 5 is often called "The Conductor's Graveyard" for the very reasons you've demonstrated. Notoriously difficult to make it work on limited rehearsal time, especially the opening. It's why Sir Simon Rattle is SO good. Clear, economical and consistent.
@asterrmb
@asterrmb 3 месяца назад
5 mil, RU-vid symphony at Hollywood Bowl! (with Dudamel conducting!) let’s go!
@LingLingwannabes_
@LingLingwannabes_ 3 месяца назад
My WiFi is broken and twoset uploads a video Me - watching with my mobile data :>>
@miriams.4341
@miriams.4341 3 месяца назад
When our conductor was ill, we got one of her colleagues, who in my estimation was stirring soup the entire time rather than conducting. It was go awful. He just vaguely waved his hands. He walked away declaring we had no sense of rhythm 😭
@tuttilynn3791
@tuttilynn3791 2 месяца назад
Never prep your prep. Clear cutoffs. Never subdivide beats. Cues are ALWAYS appreciated and eye contact is a MUST.
@Kyujar.png49
@Kyujar.png49 3 месяца назад
Rip Seiji Ozawa 😢😢😢
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 2 месяца назад
There's a huge difference between conductors interpretations of the same piece and this video proves it. For example Antal Dorati's version of The Rites Of Spring (with I think the Detroit Symphony?) is so perfect in tempo, so lacking in extraneous drama that it makes the intricate mechanisms and dynamics of the piece stand out in stark relief. If anything, by emphasizing the rhythmic perfection of the score the Rites sounds even more alien and frightening than more dramatic interpretations.
@sarahjeong1647
@sarahjeong1647 3 месяца назад
FINALLY TWOSET'S SERIOUS PLAYING
@siarametanal4317
@siarametanal4317 3 месяца назад
I love the faces you are both making while trying to follow the conductors 😂
@tayanawoodton5475
@tayanawoodton5475 3 месяца назад
this is such a cool video idea i loved it!! a good conductor makes everything so much easier. you can really tell when everyone is depending on the concertmaster lol
@philharmonischelautspreche692
@philharmonischelautspreche692 2 месяца назад
You should have added Kirill Petrenko. He conducts as precisely as possible. But as you said, that's why he became chief conductor of the Berliner Philharmoniker. Greetings from Germany.
@caganmahir2207
@caganmahir2207 3 месяца назад
woow that would be legit to make a youtube symphony amazing idea cant wait for it
@jeanettegirosky7735
@jeanettegirosky7735 3 месяца назад
Awhile back.....my daughter, who plays the baritone, was at 'band camp'. They had invited the parents for a recital and as this group was mostly 4th-6th grade....it was a little painful to listen to. I chalked it off to lack of a good teacher in a rural area. Anyways, towards the end, they had a special guest conductor from a major symphony orchestra and the kids had no idea about this. Their posture, attitude and attention changed immediately...like an 'oh s***' moment. I was ASTOUNDED at the difference in playing....they actually sounded good....like I had no idea they could play that well! I thought about the teacher though....and realized that she must not have been so bad at her job for them to follow the guest conductor so well. Hats off to all the teachers trying to keep them motivated!!!
@susanbryant6516
@susanbryant6516 3 месяца назад
That’s really interesting.. and yes the teacher must have been pretty good to get the kids capable of stepping up their game.. maybe the teacher will be inspired by this to find a way to keep that spirit up for them. Did your daughter have anything today about the experience? Did she notice the difference in her/their performance?
@jeanettegirosky7735
@jeanettegirosky7735 3 месяца назад
@@susanbryant6516 Like many kids that age, my daughter acted like it was nothing special lol....I swear all I did the whole way home was try and drag one word answers out of her! But I will say that whether she wanted to admit it or not, she and her classmates were definitely better for the experience! It's been what....almost 20 years ago...I'm ashamed to admit I'd have to drag out the yearbooks to remember her name. But I will never forget what she and that conductor did.
@fuyumi27
@fuyumi27 3 месяца назад
I think i need to watch this video 3x. 1x to watch Twoset playing, 1x to watch them playing with the video, and 1x to watch their reactions to the playing. Brett looking extremely cute in this video 😊
@jamesuhrig25
@jamesuhrig25 3 месяца назад
Fun video! I like the idea of delving into the qualities that make a conductor great, or even just what exactly does a conductor do! Here I think the lesson is "conduct" in the most basic sense: leadership. The conductor sets up not only the tempo, but signals what kind of energy is desired from the ensemble. Let's have more of this!
@perfectheart7010
@perfectheart7010 3 месяца назад
Staying up late is always worth it fr!! (Gotta get that 40 hour practice streak)
@TavareJones
@TavareJones 2 месяца назад
As someone who sang in world class choirs for decades with incredible choral conductors, choral conducting seems to be exceptionally different from orchestral conducting. There’s no way I would have come in when you guys knew to. This is sooo interesting.
@alexchristodoulou
@alexchristodoulou 3 месяца назад
That was fugue variations on Beethoven’s 5th, Bach would approve
@symphonyofsolidarity
@symphonyofsolidarity 3 месяца назад
😭😂
@janicefrillmann
@janicefrillmann 2 месяца назад
This was a great one. I have played under a lot of different conductors for Beethoven 5 and I have seen quite a few of those conducting styles. Good job Two Set 🎶🎶🎶
@brasschick4214
@brasschick4214 3 месяца назад
I love this 🥰 I played in a concert on bass recently and there were several times that we could have used clear direction (and the tempo lowered by about 5bpm) especially on some final rall.notes in a bridge section to cement in the new key sig 🥺. A thought for an episode- have tuba/basses/percussion on and discuss the role of their instruments as the ‘engine room’ of the ensemble.
@peggysmith-p5u
@peggysmith-p5u 3 месяца назад
This was such a fun video! Very interesting to hear back-to-back versions of what each conductor wanted, to make it his own unique sound. Loved watching Brett & Eddy totally immersed in their concentration to follow the beat of each example. (Yes, it is true, rehearsal is vital to know exactly what the conductor wants!)
@sabrinai
@sabrinai 3 месяца назад
1:05 oh the famous japanese conductor 😂. Haven't seen him for a while.
@fatimaestinzo6139
@fatimaestinzo6139 3 месяца назад
i thought it was Ozawa-san you're referring to 😂😂😂
@sabrinai
@sabrinai 3 месяца назад
@@fatimaestinzo6139 ahahaha, yeah, he's the actual famous one I guess 🙈
@fatimaestinzo6139
@fatimaestinzo6139 3 месяца назад
@@sabrinai the first one you're referring to is "notorious" lol
@matthewp5417
@matthewp5417 3 месяца назад
The latency was hard to avoid, but I enjoyed this. more explanation about what you're looking for for us noobs would be nice :-) love you guys, as always.
@kimlindseyOH
@kimlindseyOH 3 месяца назад
Excellent video! I think your "extra beat" was probably a "cutoff" - some conductors used to give that direction separately. Ushering for one of America's great orchestras for over a decade, I noticed a LOT of differences in how conductors gave direction - sometimes the "beat" was actually after the conductor's arm started moving upwards! The musicians really had to be on their game. There were a couple conductors where even I could tell that the orchestra was following the concertmaster, not the baton. I've been told that, of American conductors, Lorin Maazel had "impeccable stick technique" - if there's a video of him conducting a familiar piece, maybe check it out.😀 The conductor's ability to communicate via gesture, and also in words during rehearsals, is so important! They may imagine a brilliant interpretation, but without good communication and stick technique, the audience will never hear it.
@monlovebug
@monlovebug 3 месяца назад
I always love your conducting focused videos! Love this
@davidk.a
@davidk.a Месяц назад
Seji Ozawa took the historical performance practice to serious with that hairstyle. I couldn't stop laughing.
@elizabethgrinningson7730
@elizabethgrinningson7730 3 месяца назад
I wonder how long it took to film. I love the video! No crazy editing, and you can focus on the content
@atimidbirb
@atimidbirb 3 месяца назад
That slooooooooooooooooooooooow one was grating my nerves bruh I would leave if I was in the audience for that 😅
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