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What do Larnell Lewis, Sarah Thawer, and Mark Guiliana have in common?
They’re all great drummers. But what makes them so great? Why do they sound so good?
In this quick tip, Nate Smith (aka “The 80/20 Drummer”) explains how note placement is a key reason top drummers sound better than the rest of us. And you don’t have to be ‘born with it’ to learn how to improve where and how you hit the drums.
Nate shares his favorite analogy about note placement and shows you a few metronome exercises to improve your timing. Give them a try!
And if you want to dive deeper -- we have hundreds of lessons hosted by many of the drumming greats mentioned in this video inside Drumeo. Try it out here for free with a 7-day trial: drumeo.com/trial-10007
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Комментарии : 343   
@mullrump2
@mullrump2 Год назад
Bout time Drumeo got Nate in....A Great dude and educator.
@tdrum21
@tdrum21 Год назад
Amen 👌🏽
@elroyselma5005
@elroyselma5005 Год назад
Amen
@newportband3255
@newportband3255 Год назад
🙏
@buzwa2k
@buzwa2k Год назад
Hell yeah Gareth!
@jimmyjames7809
@jimmyjames7809 Год назад
Awesome dude! 👍
@JonSudano
@JonSudano Год назад
Hell yeah Nate glad to see you on Drumeo
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
Yoooooo 💪💪
@anttihelin938
@anttihelin938 Год назад
Finally Nate is on Drumeo! I'm huge fan of both channels and I've been waiting this for years! Thanks for the great video!
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
💙💙
@cjg786
@cjg786 Год назад
Same
@KevinPaulineNeal
@KevinPaulineNeal Год назад
Likewise.
@bladelazoe
@bladelazoe Год назад
Simply put, they practiced the right shit on a consistent basis. One thing that held back my playing for many years is consistency. If you want to be great, you gotta do it consistently and gradually moving out of your comfort zone.
@ealingschoolofdrums3692
@ealingschoolofdrums3692 Год назад
This Guy is Brilliant, his knowledge is sooo deep. We need more of his concepts, please.
@bronsontolliver9027
@bronsontolliver9027 Год назад
Nate is the brutal honesty we all need.
@SunnyHF-nf4bc
@SunnyHF-nf4bc Год назад
@Bronson Tolliver I agree. And I’m glad he figured out how to deliver that brutal honesty without alienating newcomers.
@YouWentToJared
@YouWentToJared Год назад
Easily the most informative, killer, and most importantly: useful, lesson in forever. Thanks.
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Glad you like it, Jared!
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
Aaaaaw 😀😀😀
@elroyselma5005
@elroyselma5005 Год назад
Amen
@jphifer2848
@jphifer2848 Год назад
I’be followed Nate for a long time. It’s GREAT to have him on Drumeo!! He sees the “inside” perspective on things that we all observe, but that we don’t really understand the details of. Each one of your educators brings something different, yet they all come together to make Drumeo a “go to” in drum education. Thank you, Jared, and Nate!!!
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Thanks for the kind words! 💙
@dougm3162
@dougm3162 Год назад
Less GOOOO😃
@quicolic
@quicolic Год назад
So happy to see Nate here. He is an amazing educator and always keep uploading his videos in his channel!
@Thermington
@Thermington Год назад
Nate is such a great teacher, he reminds me of my drum teacher. Very helpful with the visual analogy!
@jeremymullins1294
@jeremymullins1294 Год назад
Oh wow! This has been so cool to see these RU-vid drummers showing up, like Rob "Beatdown" Brown, Camille Bigeault, and now Nate!
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Glad you like it, Jeremy!
@Mayhemzz
@Mayhemzz Год назад
Watched Nate for a long time and got pretty excited when he popped up here! Would absolutely love a full length lesson from him!
@johnfrenette
@johnfrenette Год назад
One thing I like most about Sarah Thawer is that she’s got the absolute best stank face. She’s obviously an amazing player, but her facial expressions just totally get me into whatever she’s doing. It’s not some practiced thing, she’s just feeling it, and it makes me feel it all the more. So good.
@RobBeatdownBrown
@RobBeatdownBrown Год назад
Very cool seeing Nate up in the house 👊🏾😎
@shoelessmusic440
@shoelessmusic440 Год назад
Being able to displace the beat by 8th's and 16th's along with a click was one of the hardest things I ever learned how to do. Because I (we) was raised on rock and roll radio it took soooo long to be able to escape that backbeat as we've been trained to find it. Now I can slip in and out of it at will but it wasn't easy
@ricosalomar
@ricosalomar Год назад
Great to see Nate here! And to hear him on a kit that isn't all busted up 🤣
@justseaningaround
@justseaningaround Год назад
That was fun! Easily one of my favourite Drumeo videos yet. I already followed/enjoyed Nates stuff but the production quality here along with the visuals/sense of humour intermixed was a beautiful blend of approachable education. Thank you. 🙏
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Cheers!
@wesleyhughston5358
@wesleyhughston5358 Год назад
I love this guy, he's brought drumming down to realistic goals that build foundations for all drummers to build greatness upon
@jcbozich
@jcbozich Год назад
This is all put together so well! Production, content, clips, playing and the drums sound amazing as usual. Well done Nate and Drumeo! ❤️🤘🎉
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Thanks!
@paistefever
@paistefever Год назад
Oh hell yeah! Finally! A long time fan of both, great to see the crossover finally happening! :)
@drummermomcjs
@drummermomcjs Год назад
Nate and Drumeo, two great tastes that go well together! Awesome video Nate and Frumeo!
@vintageludwig
@vintageludwig Год назад
I love the analogy of the motorcycle in the parking spot, but really you're just timing your hesitations.
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
I feel it's more like the resolution of a TV screen. When we first start playing time, the pixels are all big, and there's really only "approximately near the beat" or "way off". As we get better, the pixels get smaller, and you can find the center of the beat. So while physically what might be happening is we have to have the mechanics line up so we can place the note where we hear it, what I'm talking about is even farther up the brainstem, and has to do with how accurately we're HEARING the spot we need to calibrate the hesitation of our body to place the note. If that makes any sense.
@vintageludwig
@vintageludwig Год назад
@@8020drummer I can see what you're saying here. As our resolution gets larger over time, our abilities are better suited to placing the hits within the pixels where others may not even be able to perceive.
@KevinPaulineNeal
@KevinPaulineNeal Год назад
Very good. In New Zealand we need this. Thanks Mr Nate.
@TheMusicalSchizo
@TheMusicalSchizo Год назад
This was great! Thanks for having him on, Drumeo - I hope there's a lot more to come. Nate is a fantastic no-nonsense educator that takes tricky-to-first-grab concepts and charts a great path to understanding!
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
thanks!
@michaelstevens8
@michaelstevens8 Год назад
Hello from Kansas City, Missouri. Great Video Nate. What it takes to be a Great Drummer are a number of things that are Simple but not Easy. Specifically, Tone, Time, Feel, Articulation, Dynamics, Rhythms, Sticking, Instrumentation. But also things like Being on Time, Learning a Song Quickly, Efficient Rehearsals etc. Also for anyone that's interested, Nate Smiths 80/20 Drummer Website and RU-vid Channel are easily two of the Best sites and channels for Drummers, especially for Jazz. Thanks.
@MickeyInw
@MickeyInw Год назад
👍 Great practice idea! I've been doing this for few hours and my groove and fill is sound much better right after. I always practice with quarter note click offbeat and this is much more fun to me. Big thanks again for Drumeo 🙏
@stevewilcock4767
@stevewilcock4767 Год назад
Thank you Nate and Drumeo. Much appreciated. Cheers.
@cfusilier2
@cfusilier2 Год назад
That’s a really interesting and cool way to think about…well, a lot of things. Great practice ideas, too. Thanks guys.
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Cheers Cody!
@BrianH020
@BrianH020 Год назад
So cool to see you here Nate! 👍
@bruceleeharveyoswald5104
@bruceleeharveyoswald5104 Год назад
Such an amazing analogy, Nate!
@sidyal
@sidyal Год назад
As a long time subscriber to Nate and Drumeo it's great they've done something together. Good lesson. 👍
@PabloDiegoDrum
@PabloDiegoDrum Год назад
Great combination! Drumeo and Nate ! Love and appreciate both. Thanks for the lesson
@jhamler1
@jhamler1 Год назад
Wow! I’ve been watching 80/20 for years and for some reason thought he oughta be working for/with Drumeo all along. The drumming union/community is second to none amongst musicians
@peterevans366
@peterevans366 Год назад
Brilliantly performed and explained by one of the great teachers out there Nate👌🥁
@esotericgeOrge
@esotericgeOrge Год назад
Whoa!! Nate! So glad to see him here. Been following him for a while. Great lesson! Really excited about working on this.
@paulgriffingatorgrooves
@paulgriffingatorgrooves Год назад
Thanks Nate! Love the parking space analogy! And hearing the metronome on different parts of the beat - works great - to me it’s like playing a groove with a percussionist!
@josexavierjr.5633
@josexavierjr.5633 Год назад
Great to see Nate on Drumeo! To me, he has a real life approach to drumming, but has the unique ability to see certain details that most of us do not. Very cool, hope to see more of him on Drumeo. 👍🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
@bakerfam1000
@bakerfam1000 Год назад
Been an 80/20 sub since 2017 truly an academic
@david54780
@david54780 Год назад
this opened my eyes back when I saw it on Nate's channel.. great lesson
@IAmInfinitus208
@IAmInfinitus208 Год назад
This really reminds me of how flow is really important to get a good groove while filling. Bill Bruford does a great example of it. I hope you guys do an episode on him!
@josephchambers3394
@josephchambers3394 Год назад
I've been wishing for this collaboration for years.
@Jath2112
@Jath2112 Год назад
I've been waiting a long time for this one.... awesome. Nate is a great professor.
@smokesreefer9417
@smokesreefer9417 Год назад
that was awesome! thanks 80/20! and drumeo
@religiareoriginel1933
@religiareoriginel1933 Год назад
Nate is really one of the best youtube teachers. Big up from France Drumeo !
@cocoblizzard
@cocoblizzard Год назад
The theorisation of Nate with the production value of Drumeo is a banger. We need this as a régular serie.
@richardgartland5658
@richardgartland5658 Год назад
Love Nate, great to see him on the channel. Wicked insight from a great educator who can really elevate everyone's playing regardless of level 🙌
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
thanks so much
@NadavLuzia
@NadavLuzia Год назад
Love Nate, great to see him here finally
@darkgio6
@darkgio6 Год назад
I'm not a drummer but I enjoy learning how music "works", and this was an amazing, informative video.
@DrDrewdude
@DrDrewdude Год назад
So glad to see Nate Smith on Drumeo!
@StuartJrBarrett
@StuartJrBarrett Год назад
This lesson will make me sign up for Drumeo! Nate is excellent!!!
@marcopolo4468
@marcopolo4468 Год назад
Love that guy Nate been learning off him for years now
@alanramirogarcia2886
@alanramirogarcia2886 Год назад
That drums SOUND SICK.
@trevbeats77
@trevbeats77 Год назад
Perfect illustration
@donazulay5814
@donazulay5814 Год назад
Great job in getting the process across!!! Cant think of a better way of explaining playing on,behind and ahead of the beat than the parking space scenario 😉👏👍✌🏼
@Jonathan-dj5ry
@Jonathan-dj5ry Год назад
Love this guy! Awesome to see him at Drumeo ✌🏻
@ColonelClaypool
@ColonelClaypool Год назад
Great explanation of a topic not discussed often enough!
@marcuszc3172
@marcuszc3172 Год назад
Great to see Nate here !!
@kornelwav
@kornelwav Год назад
Wow. Nate! Cool to see you at Drumeo!
@mr.anderson70
@mr.anderson70 Год назад
This is the best video Drumeo has ever put up....by farrrr.
@gasoid
@gasoid Год назад
finally your drumskit sounds excellent :D congratulations!
@simpinghouse376
@simpinghouse376 Год назад
awesome class, love the way he educates
@Plydrms
@Plydrms Год назад
..really cool motorcycle analogy, kept me tuned in the whole lesson. You should have him back!
@OrangeDrinkMusic
@OrangeDrinkMusic Год назад
Nate on Drumeo! FINALLY!
@warrenh
@warrenh Год назад
Great lesson! Nate is awesome. :)
@trafalgerdavis7839
@trafalgerdavis7839 Год назад
This was great. I watch 80/20 as well at times. This lesson reminds of Phil Rudd on a song like 'Back In Black'. It is simple beat, but if you listen closely, Rudd is in a pocket that is unbelievable. It's deceptively simple pattern, but its all how Rudd plays it. It comes with time to develop feel.
@rellis3940
@rellis3940 Год назад
Simply put. You gotta swing no matter what you play. Metal/ Rock Pop Jazz. It's feel and pocket is harder than 8 bar riffs . Once you get over I gotta show out than put those 32 fills and really blow them away. Peace out.
@diegopeart
@diegopeart Год назад
Rudd is widely known for playing just the right amount of "behind the beat", leaving that big open space per bar for the guitars and bass to fill it to the brim. and it works beautifully.
@eugenio1260
@eugenio1260 Год назад
Glad to see you here!
@juancarlosbatres6782
@juancarlosbatres6782 Год назад
So glad to see Nate here. So cool
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Cheers Juan!
@cynthiaarmstrong7972
@cynthiaarmstrong7972 Год назад
Drumeo is not just THE best drum education online, it is a great, supportive community 😊
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
💙💙
@julesdrums6167
@julesdrums6167 Год назад
Yay Nate you made it dude!!
@gianfrancogaureau8624
@gianfrancogaureau8624 Год назад
This is so awesome. I’m a better drummer than I was 2 years ago and by a lot because of my teachers in Lima, Peru and also because of you Nate. That tip of keeping things hitting at the same time and the off beat 16ths helped me a lot.
@fede170493
@fede170493 Год назад
Finally some recognition for Nate.
@FloridaCatholicGuy
@FloridaCatholicGuy Год назад
The most under rated drummer is Joey Kramer from Aerosmith. You can really hear how great he is by listening to Aerosmith live without Joey during this current tour compared to Aerosmith with Joey Kramer. When they did their Nine Lives album, Joey wasn’t there for the recording so they used a session drummer…when Joey came back they scrapped the whole album and re-recorded it with Joey.
@rellis3940
@rellis3940 Год назад
Listen to Get your wings and Rocks some of Joey's best. Just some.
@vasilias2230
@vasilias2230 Год назад
Nice, a fellow SensusFidelium subscriber
@rellis3940
@rellis3940 Год назад
I love Weckel Gadd Phillips etc. But I Love Me some Kramer. Very underated!!!
@rellis3940
@rellis3940 Год назад
Also one of my favorites. Mark Carney gone to soon. Listen to Gino's Brother to Brother. Craney not Carney. Sorry.
@marceugeni
@marceugeni Год назад
Wtf!
@mar-zgarcia429
@mar-zgarcia429 Год назад
Congrats Nate!
@garyastrein5192
@garyastrein5192 Год назад
You look so professional all dressed up, got to get used to the new look, congratulations, I knew they were going to nab you, always loved your authenticity and style, keep moving forward
@yaroslavleshchukh
@yaroslavleshchukh Год назад
So useful! Thanks 🙏
@honkytonkinson9787
@honkytonkinson9787 Год назад
When I manage to practice every day for a while I begin to feel like I’m getting close, especially on a good day where I’m just jamming along with my favorite tunes Then I miss a few days due to boring responsibilities and when I come back I’m sloppy, takes a while to warm up, and I struggle to lock up with the beat real tight. Really frustrating when I just can’t manage to play at the level I know I’m capable of, or at least want to be capable of.
@ReverieDrumCo
@ReverieDrumCo Год назад
Great lesson!
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Cheers!
@PerpetualTwilight88
@PerpetualTwilight88 Год назад
Nate is a good man also a great drummer and the best teacher
@guts2112
@guts2112 Год назад
The guy that got my drumming off the ground. Been watching this guy’s videos since before I was a drummer.
@kwarddrumz5912
@kwarddrumz5912 Год назад
AWESOME NATE,,,BEEN FOLLOWING YOU FOR YEARS...EVEN BOUGHT A COUPLE OF COURSES FROM YOU....WELL DESERVED TO BE ON DRUMEO..KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
thanks so much
@N.Willems
@N.Willems Год назад
damn didn't expect seeing you here man! great job on the lesson, ur a legend!
@clueless2746
@clueless2746 Год назад
HE’S ON DRUMEOOOOO Zack next tho
@kevinswan8311
@kevinswan8311 Год назад
Finally, 80/20. Nicely done.
@krioni86sa
@krioni86sa Год назад
Underrated lesson
@kushking420
@kushking420 Год назад
Pretty cool to have 80/20 on here! Damn cool drumeo
@scottstedeford7575
@scottstedeford7575 Год назад
Used to be a lot of emphasis on breathing - the physical act of breathing - through fills and rhythms. Has a big effect on the “fudge factor”.
@bulletfastspeed
@bulletfastspeed Год назад
Wooo Nate made it on!!
@kimrapley3721
@kimrapley3721 Год назад
I like the parking space concept, I discovered the idea of what Nate calls the parking space here when I was doing exercises to improve my weak hand (left). I would add task to the left during fills and added notes to hi hat and ride as a warm up and found myself covering the snare more with the right hand. Doing this made me double think timing and iron out the rough spots, sometimes by adding a double or creating a rest note. It forced me to slow down and when I did I found so much room inside the beat that it unleashed new creativity. Nate is dropping a really good nugget here for those who haven’t already discovered the space between where music lives.
@kimrapley3721
@kimrapley3721 Год назад
Another thing that separates these exceptional drummers from a more average drummer is their intuitive use of dynamics, pace, feel and momentum.
@8020drummer
@8020drummer Год назад
@@kimrapley3721 which is *kind of* a different way to say the same thing? (But we agree) BTW I can't take credit for the parking space. That comes from my friend Ian Allison.
@scottkasper6378
@scottkasper6378 Год назад
Love Nate!
@beverleycetin2238
@beverleycetin2238 Год назад
Wow!! Just wow!!
@spoontastico
@spoontastico Год назад
I'm 1 minute in, and can't wait to hear what Nate sounds like on an un-busted, actual kit!!
@thebackstagewatcher7364
@thebackstagewatcher7364 Год назад
Great Job! Thx!!
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial Год назад
Cheers!
@BouseFeenuxTV
@BouseFeenuxTV Год назад
The cool thing is the green hoodie homie wasn't trying to outplay the "bad drummer" He was helping him sound better. Bringing him up and that's what music is about.
@Tonyclaret1
@Tonyclaret1 Год назад
Awesome !!
@gonzalorodolfocuenca1694
@gonzalorodolfocuenca1694 Год назад
Thanx!! 🙌🏾
@danielconnolly8565
@danielconnolly8565 Год назад
Excellent
@jonasstone1520
@jonasstone1520 Год назад
Good to see at least one Nate Smith appeared on Drumeo. Now for the 'real' Nate Smith. ;)
@jesuscontreras124
@jesuscontreras124 Год назад
He's finally here!
@vincentzito3933
@vincentzito3933 10 месяцев назад
Wow, I just realized I can play a lot of that stuff after all these years. I just can't seem to get it all in one long sentence...
@anthronshuler3532
@anthronshuler3532 Год назад
my mind is 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 and I often wondered why does these great drummers sound better.
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