Why has Mbeki lashed out at Ramaphosa? | Inside Story 

I had an ANC guy living in my apartment (I'm in the UK) and I was that sick of his arrogance and race hate I threw him out.

@@joesmalley397 LOL

They are out of touch nd delusional

The same in Ghana with the NPP with Nana Addo what is this?

Bunch of illiterate terrorists.

Mismanagement - theft ,collapsed Education system and politicians that are clueless

As we see the US and EU is collapsing under the ideology of wokism NWO ideology ,globalism and other constructed threats ie the Plandemic ala WHO ,B Gates et al ,Climate change , digital currency etc etc ' - Brics offers hope from this Western Construct thats why Russia and China are under attack (imperialism) - the problem is this "President" is a sell out to Globalism ' South Africa has a last chance tp break free and become a sovereign nation - was that not the ideals of Walter Sisulu,Mandela etc

Someone with a brain!

We know what to do - vote😊

If he had no ulteriour motive he would not have critisized him in puplic.Their rivalry comes from as far as the Mandela erra.

Don't agree, We need action ASAP. It was an attack already 15years ago. What you going to do when Eskom declares Black out!. Start Now Building new Power Station not only Fixing the old one. Millions of people getting free electricity! and the people who pay must just pay more... common. It's going down brother or Sister!

Let's ramaphosa and state capture and judge Zonda fix this corruption. Our beautiful country will be world wide respected

@@mphomabuza9331 I disagree with you. If a person commits an error is private, then I would say that he/she should be given the courtesy to be rebuked in private. But what we see here is utter unhinged behaviour by the ANC and Cyril. He has fraud and kidnapping charges against him already in his first term. If Cyril can deem it 'okay' to misuse state money and think the public will see it as 'busy as usual' then he must be prepared to be rebuked by the public as well. We don't live luxuriously like the old man, the least he could do is not misuse state monies and save our people from shear poverty. It has never, even been about the ANC, the mission has always been for the people to have better livelihoods relative to what was had during apartheid. Just because these old men went through the struggle should not justify their reasons for why they failed post-apartheid now, they should know better. I say this with respect. Peace be with you.

From a former failure? Stupid at at current level, stop making children if there is no future for them

He was jailed a little time if not days but he rescued by saying he was forced those principles he doesnt believed those belifs hewas captred be because he was a proxy to activists. He was born a sellout that one😂😂

Those that were jailed most should be sent back

in 1974 and 1976 he was detained and kept under solitary confinement for Eleven months and Six months respectivelly. I think they are referring to that when he was involved with SASO (South African Students Organisation) and BPC (Black People's Convention).

@@carlomikhailreid4365 that's how apartheid fans think

@@aviweyantolo5023 isnt that how the ones still using pit toilets and living shacks feel?

😂 😂 😂... Imagine my brother..

He got arrested, remember Lekota accused him of being released within a short time because he was a sellout

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in 1974 and 1976 he was detained and kept under solitary confinement for Eleven months and Six months respectivelly. I think they are referring to that when he was involved with SASO (South African Students Organisation) and BPC (Black People's Convention).

I'm also flabbergasted by these over exaggerated sentiments. Rama was an apartheid government's call guy.

Mfwethu they don't even prepare for interviews how they can build a prosperous country

You're on point, but for ANC to renew or cleanse itself must have a starting point, and without fairness, it must start with the current president Ramaphosa to remove him from power. That's what Mmusi had also said that would give confidence, not to ANC but ordinary citizens of South Africa

And also include then the conductive parties and others before them who made sure the economic transformation does not happen, you PW Botha and the rest. Most black people were in poverty then and got better in the time of Mbeki.

@@siviwesigwela1 yes during the time of the Nat party many blacks were in poverty and majority lived in the rural areas. At the time there was no vision of 'economic transformation' (absolute unknown) unless you would call 'independent homelands' such. What did happen back then was industrial zones created in rural areas that provided thousands of jobs and these of course are very dilapidated now (wonder why?). Since the anc came to power they strangled the industrial zones to close off existing jobs and encouraged all blacks to move to cities, which they did. So you want to see poverty, well thanks to the anc there are hundreds of slum shanty towns all around the cities and urban areas that @hopeforfuture is the 'poverty' you see! Most black people did not get better under mbeki - remember the aids denialist caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people! Most certainly there has been an improvement in the lives of blacks since 1994 (during Mandela years) and then especially if politically connected, family member of a politician, cadre or just a plain corrupt thief. That your 'economic transformation' does not happen has got nothing to do with "you PW Botha and the rest" and has everything to do with the failed marxist ideology of the anc and their racist bee laws. Why does the anc have to 'protect' a 90% majority from and 8% minority?

@@ingamgoduka57 yo 'dude' - 'research'? you mean what, wiki or a single web site or do you mean like a proper study of economics and a concomitant degree? Well aggregating your 35 years takes us back to 1987 and 'do your research' you will notice the economy was in fact far better than the last 15 years and even with world sanctions! You can dismiss the 'apartheid economy' as much as you wish but the fact is that it existed and was strong. In fact had the 'apartheid economy' not been so it would have probably been in the region of 3 to 4x stronger since the 70's. It was very strong in the 60's when there was better than parity between ZAR and US$. The sanction years did a lot of damage to the RSA economy and the growth that occurred since '94 was off the a back of a severely sanction depressed economy - one would expect to achieve 4-5% growth at the very least.

Mbeki sits at the heart of the biggest health disaster of South Africa, he missed the boat in the fight against HIV/AIDS. The ANC has served its purpose (“liberation”) now our people need a new path.

Maimane is nothing he lost his fake job and now fighting for another just another politician

He represent personal ideas not that of a particular party - its the freedom

I cant trust someone who's sacrificed his wealth to a regime thats tortured our ancestors for years

@@teeeceee624, exactly. He was never this vocal when he was DA leader...probably because he was told was not to say

hes always on point recently the only problem we didn't trust him

*ANC* 👏😊 Yes! 🤔

Simply says the right thing then does nothing and doesn't care who knows it ! Pathetic leaders such as these are a cancer to their people and have to be cut out!

ANC is just an upgraded version of ZANU PF

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@@delanocruz7958 , please keep you Zim issues in Zim

Absolutely! He was speaking down because he had nothing of substance to say. He couldn't face any of the questions, lets face it

Because it's not what you wanted to hear ! He's actually putting forward an ideological view of the situation, in that way he also addresses the current situation and also is directly confronting Maimane. Perhaps he's well over your league cognitively.

@@clementmpushe5957 ok. So evetyone is wrong and you are right The ANC is a highly successful party and has led SA to great levels of peace and prosperity... Happy now?

@@clementmpushe5957 Ok. Everone is wrong and you are right... The ANC has led SA to unprecedented high levels of peace, success and prosperity Happy now Mr. Patriot?

@@clementmpushe5957 nahhh u are wrong, but whether u support the ANC or not remember that we are prepared to die for the next generation if we have to, AnC must vay by forces if not by will

Exactly. They won the elections and should be removed via the elections.

Who do you think can take us to the land of honey and milk? I’m afraid no one. All politicians are the same. Even if we can elect you, after putting you on the high seat you will start nepotism. Mbeki,Mbeki just show one thing you did to uplift economy nothing. Explosion 💥 started way back during his term. We jumped out of hot water into extremely hot oil when we voted black government. Mbeki just shut up 🤐 and stop blaming President Ramaphosa as if you did better. You Mmushi disgusting 🤢 DA threw you in the drain because of your stupidity mxe where’s your smalonyana party. President Ramaphosa be strong than ever and leave this one with everything white on his face. He is bitter

They need to vy absolutely. Tired of them

@@praisemavasa2414 , there is a time for every leadership and this time is totally not for the ANC. They can only do damage in this era, they cannot help the country with anything

ANC must be voted out by any citizen who lovs this country and ANC must be punished so severely never to ever rise again for the pain it has visited on us after entrusting it with governance.

One, it was a wrong platform; two , he’s taking himself away from the problem which he partly created, he has been part of the leadership for the past 20+ years, sitting on higher meetings levels, what did he do about his claims?

*South Africa* 🇿🇦🇿🇦 👏😊 We have a RESPONSIBILITY to join TOGETHER on behalf of the world that we seek -- a world where extremists no longer threaten our people🌏! 😊👏😊👏😊👏😊👏😊👏😊👏😊

True

@@mosesjacksonkarashani2642 maybe, but the ANC has always used funerals and memorials of ANC members especially to talk politics, even campaign for the ANC and launch verbal attacks at rivalries. True that Mbeki has been part of the ANC and the ruling party. My view is he is also capable of saying "masizinuke amakhwapha comrades" (lets snif our armpit comrades). On a positive note, at least we heard about "a national plan" 🧑‍💻 to address the power issues yesterday 🪔🕯

The man is a clown😂😂😂😂

He doesn’t even understand the question..just saying anything

A reflection of the ANC. They are not driven by experience, skills, and knowledge - but camaraderie…the core reason for their failure.

I totally agree

You spoke more sense🇿🇦

Agree 100% even an early election will be a winner.

Uphambene vah 😂

I think we are too focused on what he didn't do. In his time corruption was not at the level SA found itself in. We should not forget that corruption is in all parties including the precious regime before ANC took over. TM was blocked by ANC and Malemas of the time in implementing implementing change that SA needed. The economy in his time was doing much better. A lot was much better.

So with this knowledge how did black people in SA allow this fox to get into the hen's house-what do expect the fox to do when he gets into the hen's house-damage, damage..........

@@agro-valleyfarm7217 what do you mean by "black people" don't throw every black person into Anc confused, stale, and corrupt politics and that of it's bizerk supporters.

@@kagi2784 Aren't the people who vote for these sale-outs black people? Aren't they the ones from 1994 who have kept these corrupt sale-outs in power? Truth is truth and it hurts.

He is a cadre and you know what cade means.Fools appointed because they sing the song but with nothing upstairs.

As usual

He was fumbling all along 😂

thats our country in a nutshell , he can even reason with the other two guest

A TOTAL EMBARASSEMNT TO HIMSELF AND THE PARTY THAT SENT HIM THERE

The ANC spoke person still laments on the country's economy being in the hands of minority, what has the ANC done along with Mbeki for the past 30 years to change that. The wealth and land of South Africa is still in the hands of white minority and until the window dressers address that appropriately, poverty and instability will be in avoidable.

You’re lucky to have roads, food and manufacturing due to the white minority. Many Africans in others countries have to fend for themselves Don’t make race the issue

They don't have much else. What do you expect them to say....?

Some of us South Africans we know our history and facts of what happened during apartheid.

@@ms_busybee5315 He was never jailed!

@@RSVPrr He was arrested and went went to jail but he never went to prison because his father was a police officer he sold out his friends and got released. There's a difference between jail and prison.

True... ut remember who put the ANC in power and kept them their? the UK and the USA and the EU...and the Jews..

He was arrested and imprisoned with Terror Lakota and others, he got released in no time without explanation and the likes of Terror were left there to languish.

It was a fake arrest he was their inside guy that's how intelligent work everywhere, mi5, CIA and others in the world, they had to make it look like an arrest so that he can still be trusted

@@thatheforest5806 Ok

But he looks empty heades and talking nothing of sense other than mumbling word that have no sense. This is another zuma

I am asking myself the very same question.

South Africans lose R500,000.00 every minute due to corruption!!! this ANC is too greedy. Ramaphosa and his brother in-law Patrice Motsepe both billionaires and buying up all strategic business in south africa through African Rainbow Energy & Power Pty Ltd. Ramaphosa's wife is Motsepe's sister also in big business herself - looters !!!!!

That's all they're qualified to do

Yep

What? This mess started under Mandela and ramped up under Mbeki.

But at least we have someone feeling ashamed about this mess, someone honest, let's not forget the time he was on the chair, his work to his people was delivered, serviced so well and the country accomplished many things at the time. If was bad, not as far Maposa's mess

@@greenmoon2585 Does he feel ashamed over the hundreds of thousands of blacks who died because of his HIV/AIDS denialism?

He's intoxicated

ANC = READY TO MIS-GOVERN.

I was like what? Really? When? 🤣

Every one knows that Ramaphosa was recruited from the South African Police Reservists in 1970s in Chiawelo by the Urban Foundation of the Oppenheimers, who sent him to University, then made him in his 20s, the leader of NUM founded by the White Mining bosses. He was handled by the Menels in 1990 and by Mi5's spy agent Stephan Dudley. He joined the ANC in 1990, then made head of Mandela Welcoming/Receiption Committee by Craig Williamson. The same year Ramaphosa joined the ANC, he entered elective conference without credentials, but emerged as the ANC Secretary General. How so? Apartheid State Security made sure he won, thus capturing the ANC from 1991. That is why, Ramaphosa was suddenly punted by the Media in 1991 as the successor to Mandela. He was their Double-Agent. Ramaphosa was the Chief Negotiator thereafter; effectively White South Africa was negotiating with itself hence the very favourable terms of the Negotiated Settlement that allowed White colonists to retain all the vestiges of Apartheid. Ramaphosa was thanked for this by being made a Billionaire by the Menels, Oppenheimers and Ruperts. When he was made Deputy President, Zuma was suddenly poisoned with the same GEM Warfare agent that killed Yasser Arafat. Russia saved him. When Zuma was removed, the DA which countered Zuma by making itself a Black party (and punting the White Genocide campaign), and Ramaphosa became president of SA, the DA removed its Black leaders, becoming a White party again. Rating agencies stopped downgrading SA, and Media and Judiciary suddenly became pro-Government. The DA knew that Ramaphosa was their man, a Double Agent from the 1970s. Ramaphosa was even given the McDonalds licence as sole distributor in southern Africa. He stopped the Land Expropriation without compensation, reversed the annual Expenditure of R1,7 Trillion (labelled corruption by the Media) to exclusively White business as has been the case since 1910.

A fox in the hen's house.

His police man father worked with Apartheid to take lekota jail not Ramadollar

@@ohlangeni Mandela was also Mi6 agent. Mbeki was Mi6 agent. Zuma was KGB agent.

He is a fool. They are desperate and they want to resort to cheap tribal politics as if SA started after '94 to be a diverse country.

@@sivuyilemtsi9840 If you repeat a lie repeatedly it will eventually become the truth. That is what the ANC does.

Diverse including segregation for centuries and apartheid where wealth and education was cascaded according the color of your skin and that ended 28yrs ago. ANC in many ways was asked to do the impossible. From the trenches to government and all of those problems waiting for you. Credit where credit is due. Mandela asks the whites to stay in government through the government of national unity and they reneged, why ? Because blacks with the education they never had and with the governing they never had will be unable to manage a sophisticated economy and the result will be a collapse within, and then they will take over. Makes me laugh as i'm writing this to think they waited for 28 yrs for that collapse to happen( and i'm sure some of them died waiting!!!), and still nothing seem will happen as the original plan. That's why I say give credit where credit is due.

@@clementmpushe5957 sounds like America without the 400years of slavery nothing out of the ordinary

@@jackholman5008 I think you are confused. You need a lot of education about the differences between the two but that can help only if you are cognitively sharp at the very least.

It’s so obvious. Especially on other media networks.

If you are 28 years or younger then you do not come from a disadvantaged background, you were born into a free democracy with black economic empowerment, where you will get a job easier because of your skin colour so don't even think of complaining!

@@onlypremiumlife To be honest I don't blame them for starting the BEE thingy because as far as I'm concern white people own like 80% of the wealth in SA so don't blame the government for trying to even things even though they are failing😏😑

So what if 80% is owned by white people. If 80% was owned by black people this country would be even worse off. It's been 28 years and you still can't make a success of this country even with your racist BEE policies! Aren't you embarrassed that you need BEE to compete with the white man, why can't you compete on a fair playing field with equal opportunity, is it because the white man is just too smart for you so you all have to have BEE to stay competitive?

@@onlypremiumlife . Nonsense! What are you talking about? Because all of the financial wealth and riches are in the hands of a few minority who thinks about themselves and their selfish family members! There is far more poverty today than there was during Apartheid era because many companies Refuse to hire ordinary citizens with decent salary. Instead they pay them wages or salary below poverty line that barely affords basic needs and here you are spewing this nonsense! SMH

@@kasiphilosopher7489 Oh please get a clue! Wake up and smell the roses! You are living in La-la-land! The ANC are the reason for all this poverty, corruption and destruction. We don't even have electricity in this country and every SOE is broken plus we have a 34% unemployment rate all thanks to a black government! This was never the case during Apartheid. It is abundantly clear that you have never read a newspaper or even a book in you entire life, wake up sleep-walker you are uninformed and ignorant of the truth!

Mbeki supported Ramaphosa by campaigning for him. The matter from the nineties is water under the bridge. It was constructive criticism that didn't come from a bad place.

South Africans lose R500,000.00 every minute due to corruption!!! this ANC is too greedy. Ramaphosa and his brother in-law Patrice Motsepe both billionaires and buying up all strategic business in south africa through African Rainbow Energy & Power Pty Ltd. Ramaphosa's wife is Motsepe's sister also in big business herself - looters !!!!!

That is a party led by fools and ANC has proved beyond daubt that is what it is if it could allow characters like ZUMA and so many other like Myeni lead this countrys strategic enterprises. I have and we have to vote this idiotic party out of power. It has ruined our country

Well said

You're right ✓ 👋😊 🎓 😊 ...

Lol offspring

E F F is a n c babies corrupt all of them

We differ in the provinces when it comes to land. If you speak to us people of Limpopo, the land is in the most land is in the hands of our kings and quins, that is in the hands of black people. I think it is the same in KZN and the eastern cape. So, the issue of land is not the gist to us, what we want is facilitation of black business and innovation. We want government to invest in infrastructure and development so that we can build black businesses. We want government to legitimize local markets and build infrastructure and provide funding for upcoming black businesses. If you blame your inability to build a business on lack of land in Limpopo, people will laugh at you coz we have land down there. Where apartheid had robbed us of land, we already got over 70% of that land through restitution

This is not true. Much land is in the hands of black South Africans. Many mines too. Black Economic Empowerment has seen all companies over R300k gross turnover receive black directors. ANC policies havs failed, they never had a vision to take the country forward. Corruption in the ANC brought SA to its knees as did the Unions always pushing for higher salaries...but without the productivity in return. The police failed to control crime, being a big part of it themselves, and the justice system failed. Add to that the number of illegal immigrants, totally out of control.

@@W.GlobalAffairs Have you ever heard of productive land?...

Land reform could have given many some reprieve, but S.A is run on corporate greed

@@W.GlobalAffairs you cannot like what you don't know. The same land you hate is the same land you can't afford when it's chopped into stands and built onto. Land is everything

The African leadership template...

Dependable friend... The key word.

Mxm conspiracy theorists to the rescue everyone 🙄

Ok. You have that narrative word perfect. But do you have any suggestio s how to restore this country so it is to everyones benefit?

This sounds like something just lifted out of a Quanon page.

I never trust lawyers-thanks for this additional info about this wolf in sheep clothing; he was behind the Marikana massacre of the black miners.

Sibiya you are right

South Africans should've done something in 2004

He does have a cheap laptop and poor internet connection though... And it's funny his folks named him after a SAAF military plane...

Wahlanya wena

What stopped that Zuma thief from giving the land to the Khoisan people(rightful owners). That Corrupt Zuma was in power for 9 years, he had more than enough time to give the land. He is no scapegoat, he is a THIEF. Mandela and Mbeki did not allow the GUPTAS TO THIEF from the country, it was that THIEF ZUMA.

How was that under the watchful eye of Ramaphosa? Ramaphosa may have kept his ANC membership but he was out of mainstream politics during the Mandela and Mbeki era. Your hatred is clouding your judgement and you are ignorant

Maybe you should work for the land not just handed it Entitlement at its finest

No they didn't 🤣🤣🤣, these guys approached then government to help that's it. But with the fool from nkandla called zuma, they took advantage of his stupidity. Hence they controlled him and chose idiots ministers to manipulate. Gupta's put ministers in position during zuma's time to steal our money. They never did that during Mbeki's or Mandela's time.

The durban representative doesn't command respect. All he was doing is spitting a whole lot of nonsense. He literally didn't even try to address the current issues. The anc always blames apartheid for everything. They never take ownership

Yes 😊 🎓 😊...

You're right, the interviewer lacks respect towards the Durban representive. It's because he doesn't really deserve respect. His points were intellectually bankrupt.

@@CodeSwag Brilliant way of putting it. Best wishes from the UK.

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We will do so until there is nothing left because there is no way we can vote for a white man

Hahaha😂we are not even allowed to choose! Americans are still being fooled even under their current system where they can select the President, we are not even able to choose a single minister much less march any change past the party system we are locked in but yeah sure its tribalism🤠🥳

Not even just tribalism, nepotism. Govt workers hog opportunities between themselves, close friends and family.

Tribalism that's very foreign to us Apartheid actually brought us together .

He was but was taken out early cause he was a impi pi

@ Meme Guy Have you listened to the young DA leader Chris Pappas? See inspiring BizNews interview with Mayor Chris Pappas ( 30, fluent in isiZulu) of uMngeni Municipality. The interviewer is Alec Hogg- RU-vid.

The Industrialists Had Mandela implemented the Black radical economic transformation and redistribution of land he would have been ousted, and chaos would have ensued. When the ANC came to power, they found that the Treasury was empty and the NATs had left a debt of 25 BILLION DOLLARS! South Africa's credit rating was rubbish. Tata was hoping that the West would cancel the debt and also provide financial support, something similar to the MARSHALL PLAN, instead he was told he had to pay the debt. Servicint the debt left no money to embark on a large scale housing construction programme or create jobs. The ANC implement GEAR but it could not work because there was no foreign investment. Poor people are too busy trying to survive. The West will never allow South Africans to thrive because prosperous people have ample time to think, ask questions and agitate. The Jews received reparations for what the atrocities that they suffered during the Holocaust. South Africans were entitled to demand reparations but the West conspired with the ANC to dead that story. Then again, they knew that they would be put under all manner of attacks if they pushed the issue for reparations. It's time for the 2nd liberation.

The problem is that people have been misled that the ANC was responsible for the change that took place in SA-IT WASN'T THEM it was due to the Cuban Force defeating the SA military force in 1987.

@@agro-valleyfarm7217 Much as the Cuban excursion served as an impertus, also the British were fed up of the Boers. The Boers who had been left behind to manage the economy and the assets had become greedy and ruthless leading to instability which was costing a lot of money to manage. Not only that they had become very good at creaming off the money, and they were creating their own institutions to empower themselves. So the West got rid of the Boers and employed a new set of garden boys the ANC. The ANC was a toothless dog from jump because the NATs had a lot of dirt on the ANC in exile. The ANC did not want the truth to come out that is why they opted for the toothless TRC. In exchange they were touted as the party for liberation.

@@lekis5975 History will never absolve these sale-outs. Sri Lanka uprising is needed to purge the country of these corrupt fraudsters.

Please listen to whole Mbekis speech.