Why has no other RTS overcome StarCraft 2 

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Pathing. No other game has pathing even half as good as SC2. I play AoE2 regularly and every unit in that game moves like an SC1 dragoon. It's hard to sell an RTS when the player does not feel in command of their own units

another big reason: new RTS sequels compete with themselves. nearly every other kind of game has a shorter shelf life than competitive RTS games, but for RTS everyone is still playing and loving the last game. it takes a lot to get people to jump to the new one.

"RTS fans are mostly adults ranging between 20s and 40s" Yep seems about right for me "which means they have enough money to afford new games and paid DLCs" Nah man I'm always broke af 💀

I am 39 years old and almost none of my friends agree to join me in SC2 too :D

I think the biggest issue is the lack of innovation. Stormgate looks like a new iteration of a Starcraft-like game. It's fact paced, micro-managing units is important, and strategy is of secondary importance. If you are attacked, every second you don't put your attention to it could be game-ending. I don't think the idea that how much APM you can muster is a good metric to measure how good a player is, or that it's a good game mechanic to have. Starcraft intentionally is fast paced... just look at the vision radius. It's basically attack range + a little. Scouting occurs by sending cheap units to the right place. Most things are basically this: Did you do your build order fast enough? Did you harass as you should be? Did you manage to not lose units due to lack of attention? Did you micro-manage your units well? Did you spread your creep, did you inject your larvae, did you spend mules, did you use chrono warp as you should? Did you manage to NOT accrue resources needlessly? If you do all of these things better you can go up to master. For those above you may also need to be smart about quick strategic thinking, although APM still matters.

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For me the biggest quality of SC2 is the crisp UI and responsiveness in gameplay. Pretty much every other RTS feels sluggish and shitty. Stormgate has a chance in that regard, considering who are making it.

The main reason RTS games died out is the rise of MOBA's starting with DoA and later LoL. Controlling a single character is much faster to learn and because you play in a team there is no ladder anxiety.

When fans say “most people play RTS for the story and lore” the implication for major publishers is that being an RTS is actually a hindrance to a game’s success. That’s why Blizzard has said that if they continue the Starcraft series, the next game most likely won’t be an RTS. Blizzard has already set precedent with Warcraft that RTS series with rich and appealing stories and lore are more successful when the story and lore is instead given to a game outside of the RTS genre. No major publisher today is going to invest in a lore-heavy story-driven RTS when they could just put the same story and lore in a game that’s more likely to succeed financially. If RTS fans really want RTS to make a resurgence in the mainstream, they have to convince newcomers that RTS GAMEPLAY is fun and that it’s not just a vehicle for story and lore that could be served better in an RPG or something. And developers need to see that RTS gameplay is drawing people into the genre and retaining them. No this doesn’t necessarily mean we need to focus on multiplayer, but we need something to get people to keep coming back to RTSes specifically for the gameplay. Campaigns are good for drawing in new players, but we also need something to retain them after they’re finished with the campaign as well

One word making the success of StarCraft series: Story. The best story ever

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As someone who's been playing RTS since CnC95 and been to tournaments, one I've won, I have a few counterpoints. Firstly, technically, League of Legends, DOTA, and other MOBAs have surpassed Starcraft in popularity. You might claim they're not true RTS games, but they came from a RTS game mode. They're basically a simplified version of standard RTS games like starcraft. League is to Starcraft as CoD is to Old School Quake. Secondly, Starcraft isnt the hardest game in the universe. You just have a lot of people who turn the game into a job(esport players) who give the illusion that it's really difficult. You don't need 900 APM to play starcraft, ever. Yes I've seen the league vs starcraft video, but look closely, the guy in the starcraft video is padding his APM by selecting and reselecting his gather units/structures.(please know I dont like league and I do like starcraft) Third, Starcraft 2s popularity is based on three factors. Blizzard back when blizzard was good making the game, it's legacy from it's prequel, and the korean scene. Korea puts the game on a pedestal and inflates it's popularity. Take away that, take away it's prequel, and starcraft 2 wont be nearly as popular as it is now. Might still be the most popular traditional RTS because good blizzard is GOOD, but it won't have as much of a reputation.

14 years old . . I remember when I was impatiently waiting the release of sc2. I feel old now.

I'm a bit older. I played sc1 and sc2. Got to Daimond top 8 before there was a GM rank. So not the very top, but also not the bottom. I introduced sc2 to my son at the age of 10. He liked it, but not so much that he'd spend hours playing it. He's 12 now and wants to try again. I think the only reason he wants to is because I like it and still watch it. So we can play together. What's annoying to me in sc2 is that if I look away from my army for 2 seconds and Terran stims my whole army just melted, or half of my base. Sc1 was slower and I enjoyed that more. Stormgate... IDK, looks too cartoonish.

Because starcraft is the GOAT of rts

I think the RTS games by default are not really appealing to today audiences, that is fact if you check for how game tendencies has been evolving the last decade. However one thing that set apart SC2 is the Lore, the Story, the World we know... the gameplay on the campaign... soooo many things combined even before the ESport Scene hits really left a mark on our hearts and souls. I've been playing other RTS and it really doesn't get the same feeling, some try to get there but fails somehow, specially because as you said people compare them with StarCraft 2 and they can't match that colossal game. It also is something really familiar and people don't want to invest a lot of time and effort on a hard RTS game from a new IP that doesn't have appealing elements from the start when they know SC2 and they can jump instantly and is still so alive, with a pro competitive scene and soooo many things to do... Even I was wondering why was I playing CrossFire Legion at some point when I have StarCraft2 but I kind of liked the game, and also GreyGoo, but they have no people to really play online a lot and casually, and they are not as balanced as to invest so much time for nothing... with no pro players or big communities to relate... at least that is what I think. I don't fully like Stormgate yet, the gameplay seems okish, but I will wait for the release and check the Story Mode, if the Story hooks me with interesting characters and plot then I have a reason to keep playing the game and their races, and invest time on the online vs others, but if that isn't the case then... it will be just a try.

Giant grant games looked into this and found the problem was, 1. No one likes 1v1 multiplayer. 2. A GOOD campaign is critical for new players. 3. Co-op keeps people around. 4. A GOOD map editor is a necesity.

SC2 has the best online network experience for an RTS IMO. Regardless if they're playing Coop or rank matchmaking, the game uses Blizzard dedicated server that are really good compared to other RTS. This is only probably possible because they can afford the network infrastructure to host dedicated servers 24/7. I play from Singapore vs those in the US or even vs Korean players and I barely feel any delays even with 150-200ms ping. Most competitive RTS uses P2P like AoE4 and CoH3 and end up with VERY noticeable delays even if you play on the same region the moment you're matched with players outside your country. It's also why EU and US SC2 pro players can still play big tournaments in other regions because the delays they have isn't downright unplayable and that's for a game that's micro intensive. Also SC1 and SC2 have decent and unrushed storyline because they spanned for years not to mention it's a complete storyline. There's no waiting for what's about to happen next. Other RTS "story" campaign are left unfinished and unfulfilling because they want players to comeback on their sequel if it does happen which usually never does leaving sort of a bad taste to players that love good storylines in their games. Starcraft 2 also supports mods and map creation to its player base and even allows those mods/maps to be played on the Blizzard dedicated servers for free once it's approved and uploaded for better gaming experience. TLDR: Company has money for online dedicated servers. Finished and completed storyline/campaign. For an inhouse game engine, game graphics still looks better than most of the competition currently in the market right now.

I have the same situation, I love SC2 but almost none of my friends want to play 😆 Coop is great, so are some arcade maps like ZergHex or Direct Strike. I want Stormgate to deliver on its promise to give us a 3v3 mode, I have such high hopes for it. Other than for watching E-Sports I actually super don't care about 1v1 anymore 😅

Because aside from AoE4 (which is doing pretty well), there hasn't been much competition released in the RTS genre, let alone the sci-fi RTS genre. Stormgate and ZeroSpace are the first two larger games I've seen gunning for StarCraft's position, and they're not even out yet. Shout out to Tempest Rising which also looks badass and seems a little more under the radar!

the devs refined the code for 20 years, its simple but it can happen again but not soon in this big business monetized game era, whats its name infernals vs vangaurd needs massive time before release or flop

Dedicated servers are one of the biggest reason SC2 has the best online gaming for an RTS. I'm playing from SEA so I'm forced to connect and play on US servers but get 150-200ms ping but I don't feel like I'm having any delays. There's a reason why SC2 players across different regions around the globe can host tournaments *online* with $100,000-$500,000 prize pool for a 14 year old game. because the game is just very playable on the pro level even just playing at online. Blizzard dedicated servers connection are just world wide and accessible which is something I can't say to other RTS and most rely on just old school peer-to-peer because it's cheaper. I've played other RTS like CoH or AOE and experienced delays the moment I'm matched up against someone outside my country. Meanwhile I'm playing SC2 from someone half-way across the globe and I don't have any noticeable delay. Unfortunately if the news is true even Stormgate will not have dedicated servers, it's precisely why they're trying to implement Rollback netcode into their game which is a peer-to-peer netcode for fighting games. Regional dedicated servers are always the best solution for RTS but are just expensive. Blizzard has money and global infrastructure that other RTS developers just don't have. Game also supports mods and map creation tool which is a plus.

Stormgate looks like a game made in 2000. I cant believe they are ex-sc2 developers behind this studio. Quite sad.

SC2 Engine + Controls is what makes it the 🐐

3:00 but the graphs show that console also has a smaller market share over time

Brood War says "Hello" :)

U mean sc1bw. Best rts ever.

5:57 Age of empires Online tried to focus on multi player co-op and missions/events, it flopped so hard with a lot of backlash around not having PvP or making it hard to unlock PvP, and many other reasons as well

I’m 39, not that bright gamer. Been playing StarCraft 1 on lan with friends, sim city style. Played sc2 since the start, pvp only. I just like how the games are never the same, some can be very short and some can be intense etc. Only had this feeling with the quake series. Games like warzone and apex are just too either FotM loadout based or combine the perfect classes and just own the server. I don’t like that.

I'm also 27 years old. Honestly in general I don't like to try many new games, I like playing my old favorites - SC2, overwatch, etc. Also with SC2, there is so much comfort and familiarity, yet I'm still trying to grind the ladder just like I was in HS. I remember I had a friend beg me to play it with him in HS, and so I did. I played it a ton for a year, got burnt out, but then have played it on and off over the years, and ol' staple. There is something so satisfying to improving you're raw skills in SC2 and climbing the ladder.

I play SC2 on GeForce Now and its great! No need for a gaming PC 🎉

I'd say Age of Empires in a way has, it's just because it has been based on older code that has to get adapted which consistently causes problems. AoE III has my love-hate going on with it due to people saying 'NO... there is no Shift-Click bug (i.e. your shift-click OFTEN causes your unit to do thing you just shift-clicked - rather than finishing its task & *THEN* going to the shift-clicked task) or with the lack of balance/QoL updates (AoE II is a patch/1.5-2 months), AoE III is over 4 now. But AoE II, when I get back to playing it is... really a treat beyond Starcraft I'd argue. It just has so much versatility leading to creativity, whilst also being relatively stable. It's absolutely not perfect, but I always feel EVEN a small modicum of hope each patch that it will fit/sit even better this time 'round.

Can someone explain to me why Games Workshop hasn't taken over the RTS genre? I'm only vaguely familiar with the Warhammer 40k universe but they already fund a huge number of projects, video games, animation, TV shows, they have a pre-existing audience who spend $$$ on complicated strategy games, they have the lore, established factions, dark sci-fi aesthetic. Literally the only company for whom it makes sense to invest big into this genre.

I think the big factor that pushes people away from RTS is the macro part of them. Most people like microing their army around, killing stuff and strategizing about attack angles, but most people can't keep up macroing at the same time. Maybe if a game could automize that part (you would pre-establish game plans and could select which one you would like to run during the loading screen). At any point you can interrupt your units to react to the opponent, but I guess this would lower the skill base required making the game less frustrating for the majority. I also believe people would understand the game better if they had to establish a real game plan instead of winging it every game.

What makes StarCraft so good is that there are so many ways to win. Every game is different, strategies come and go and come back, can’t win based on mass units alone

It's the tightness of control, responsiveness and just general engine quality. I tried so many RTS in the last decade since SC2 and I hate the HARD FACT that none of them have come close to an OLD game like SC2. Everything else feels clunky. It's sad for the genre that none have come close to that bar.

Have you tried BAR? (Beyond All Reason) Its definitely more team based and social, in early development and a promising future.

There's a reason all these ex blizzard guys have split into different studios and several new RTS games are all coming out at once: Blizzard is not actively developing SC2 any more. I don't think SC2 will just disappear, but I also don't think it will remain dominant in the new era. One of the upcoming games with an active dev team will be more popular going forward, even if it doesn't surpass the global phenomenon SC2 was at its peak. My money is on Stormgate, though we have yet to really see the contender from David Kim and Uncapped Games. In any case the new gen of RTS have one major thing going for them which is that they wont carry the same reputation of elitism that puts so many players off from even giving SC a try.

Are those new RTS add Day/night time change of units behaviour? That would be interesting, that skirmish game changes during round. At this mechanics, players should trim their strategies to local changes of day/night conditions. For example: Hydras decreases it's range at night, but lings are getting more aggressive. At night dark templar are slightly more visible to get 10% damage and other units fire range are shorter...Whatever. That would be a nice mechanic add-on :) Does enyone knows such a mod for SC@?

sc2 make a cinematic go goose bumpy.

SC2 is like smash bros melee or heroes of might and magic 3. It’s one of those near perfect games that will be fun forever.

Started on SC1 back in the days. Was incredible to play and first matches online was brutal with my friends. Then I abandoned, I don't care too much about singleplayer, but found sc2 single and co-op was great. RTS today should focus not on live services, but instead on a single player and co-op experience over the top, with DLCs releases over time (paradox games anyone ?), not competitive pvp ladder stuff. My 2 cents

I think the RTS genre is kind of in the same spot as the Quake/UT-style arena shooters. They are both perceived as too hardcore and punishing and thus lost momentum against the games which are perceived as more forgiving (CoD style games over Quake-likes and MOBAs over traditional RTS games). Also doesn't help that RTS game controls don't translate well to anything except kb&m. This means less people are going to play them and thus less incentive for big studios to pursue developing them. No big publisher is willing to take the risk and the smaller indie studios just don't have the budget to compete on equal footing. When SC2's development started (sometime around 2005), RTS genre was still strong and thus had good funding for its development and support. Whose going to spend that much on an RTS today.

the best contenders against sc2 are SC:BW, WC3, AOE2, early C&C series games, etc. which is sad seeing how only the older games have managed to do the Genre justice.

I've always liked brood war more than SC2. The graphics, sound design, and campaign are much better, and as a spectator esport it's not even close. SC2 has always been quite boring to watch but I love watching brood war.

RTS need to evolve into new genre, the last "RTS-eques" game i played was from total war series.. strategy game that had some resemblance of RTS. Cus, one of the problem with classic RTS was its micro-command, needing to input one command every second require year's of training and that exhausting. I think, RTS can benefit's from much more complex automation command.. say setting the factory n its worker to certain parameters, if resources were this much, create this, if more than this threshold create this. Better ai n control for troops behavior, and so on.. lessen the load of commander on second to second basis. So more strategy n less fast-hand skill.. With the computer power we had today, we can essentially create a very2 huge map, simulating a urbanwarfare for example, for much better coop campaign experience..

We need new starcraft campaign game

Microsoft just needs to rehire or pay the old team to make a SC3

"I love War" Selection

Why no one talk about immortal gate?

The short answer is money and the long answer is money

We really need starcraft 3 ..... I will buy it on the Spot

Surely you mean StarCraft (1), right?

its called broodwar

what the game title that is showed in ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T2qOgb-p47A.html ?

Zero space and Stormgate LOOK good, but I'm not seeing that kind of Crunch that the Starcraft 2 combat has. Units feel like they have huge health pools and damage dealt is too slow to be on par with starcraft 2.

I don’t need casuals in my RTS, get good or get wrecked by canon rush

StarCraft 2 success was highly mediated by StarCraft 1 success. But many StarCraft 1 players are now 50 years old and gaming moves faster each year. I think it’s just been too long without capstone games for the genre to recover.

The problem SC2 has isn't that it's hard, but that it's punishing. There are too many units that can sneak or charge into the mineralline and instantly win the game. It's reactionary rather than strategic. In addition to that everybody just plays meta and it's about building a blob of units and then winning the fight. SC1 Broodwar is more about securing parts of the map, and the builds still change, that's why it's still so popular and even many pro players went back from SC2 to SC1.

MOBAs kind of destroyed the RTS genre. Also RTS games don't lend themselves well to consoles using gamepads as a control method. With that said, I've mostly only ever played Blizzard RTS games anyway. And I think most Starcraft fans have as well. If Blizzard were to make a Starcraft 3, the fans would buy it. It's like Mario games. The platforming genre doesn't need to be popular for Mario to be popular, if Nintendo makes a new Mario game, the fans will buy it irrespective of whether platforming games are a popular genre or not.

Age of Mythology That's all I have to say

Korea would not be still playing broodwar if starcraft 2 was better than broodwar

For me, the reason it won't be dethroned is because of it's pace and 'could lose your army in a second if not looking'. It adds a lot of focus and stress. I get it's not for everyone, and I am not a quick player (100apm if I can be arsed) but that's not the point.. I love what is possible, and that rage/joy feeling you get almost every game is something I don't get with any other game. Stormgate feels like it's pandering to an audience that doesn't exist, like the other new ones. I am staggered that nobody has basically cloned SC2 to freshen it up a bit tbh. Not every game has to be a billion dollar cash cow, which is what Microsoft said when they bought Blizzard. Maybe not in my lifetime, but I have hope an RTS will come out by the fans, for the fans

I really think it was a failure to capitalize on the SC2 engine and map editor to begin with. Like you mentioned its basically impossible than any RTS will ever have so much funding in the future, so even storm gate would need more budget just to match the engine alone. If stormgate could have been made in the SC2 map editor and sold as its own client with just a licensing fee... I think it would look and play way better. There really is no need to make any RTS game in anything other than the SC2 editor, at least for another decade, of course thats not an option because the SC2 editor doesnt have a buisness model like Unreal

Starcraft2 didn*t even overcome Broodwar iIMHO.

StarCraft 2 was the epitome of competitive 1v1 rts which is what the genre is about. Modern RTS all pander to zoomer Fortnite kids with 5 APM who can't think for themselves so most just ended up becoming city builders instead.

Bro, the only rts game that can dethrone SC2 is SC3.

I know nothing about "Stormgate", and to me it just looks like a hybrid of "SC" and "Warcraft".

No one can overcome Blizzard's RTS, not even Blizzard themselves.

If I had to guess.... probably that Blizzard spent nearly 20 years making it. And Korea exists.

Хах, гм зерг печалится, что никто не хочет присоедениться к нему в ск XD

Although i am gen z i grew up with command and conquer kanes' wrath and it would have been the only competition for sc2 but ea ruined it

There is a RTS that overcome Starcraft 2. It's called Starcraft 1 :P About question "why" I think it's because of two reasons: 1. Hardcore and comptetitive games are stressful. New generation prefer to have a simply fun from the game instead of learning builds and training fast clicking just to be some bronze tier player. Old generation (we) for some reason enjoy such games, but even us usually switches to MOBa games - much easier to play and enjoy than classic RTS. 2. I have played many RTS games in my life, started with Warcraft 2 and ended with Godsworn. When I look at Stormgate or ZeroSpace I see "another Starcraft 2 clone" and that's enough for me to not play it. I know what it is about, it's about a clickfest and repeating same moves over and over again to master it with a tiny bit of strategy. Believe me, it's exactly the same what Warcraft 2 had to offer and it was in 1996. Something really new and interesting, like Northgard, happens once in 20 years. Godsworn is also something new, it's like mix of Northgard and Age of Empires. These two games are the titles I would like to play, but not Stormgate/Starcraft 3.

As far as shitting on other games Brood War fans are by far the masters

I though there could never be a game like broodwar, and I was right, Starcraft 2 is different and IMHO better. I don't think this phenomenon would happen again, but I hope I'm wrong

Supreme commander forged alliance is the best rts ever made. Sc2 might be mechanically competent but its not fun to play. It succeeded because it was based off a popular successor and thrived because money was pumped into it to develop an esports scene. The thing about esports is, if i gave people a million dollars for throwing poop at a wall the best then everyone would claim thats a good game to play as well.

I don't care. I'm sinking with the ship. Sometimes i take a vacation but i know myself enough to know i'm always coming back. Be wc3 or sc2. I've played a shit ton of those community games all my life and i can say with certainty: quality lasts! SC2, BW, WC3, TF2, SF3... there is a reason for people longing with those.

total war arena 💪

Name an RTS made after SC2 that wasn't AoE4. There. There is your answer.

SC2 has a legacy with broodwar, for the casual side the campaign has blown everything before it out of the water the fact that competitively the game has 3 very distinct factions that not only vary in their unitpool toolkit but also in the way how they build bases AND generally play as well whether one is about swarming and quick expansion, one about sieging or another about stealth, mobility and high quality units. also no rts EVER has garnered national popularity as broodwar did in south korea ... at the very least it was never reported and i'm gonna be honest ... i do not enjoy playing starcraft 2 or brood war i'm more of a command and conquer/act of war player, i enjoy games like total annihilation or supreme commander and occasionally age of empires or age of mythology what's the main difference? MOST of these are somewhat slower and have an average higher playtime per 1v1 match, their factions are not as varied and likely most importantly the solo campaign may have not been interesting enough ... competitively none of these games gained high national or international popularity ... their playerbases are significantly smaller ... Brood War back then simply was a very good game ... and you could say it had quite an amount of luck with its popularity in south korea which gave it an additional boost overall ... bring in the fact that its sequel had a budget rivaling that of summerblockbustermovies ... i mean there could have gone a lot of things wrong with the sequel ... but it didn't ... instead it took the scene by storm and gained a level of support your average RTS between 2000 and 2010 could have only dreamed of, and rts games during those years weren't a rarity ...

"a new RTS game that tries to resurrect the genre should be of immense quality" ... yeaaa no pressure on the devs ... at all and yea i can very much underline how toxic "fans" of ANY particular game are ... like don't DARE to explain them what you like better in a different game to their chosen avatargame ...

Kids have no attention spans now

Maybe market share as a percentage is decreasing , but the number of players is increasing, you should read such statictics well. It is the mobile games that has huge impact on such charts, but this is a completely separate player target. So I disagree with your statement. PC holds strong 😅

I think the other reason RTS is falling off its considered a nerdy game, and these days, it's trendy to be a moron

The new games also lacks a good lore. And this reflect not only in a weak single player, but weak unit design.

>uploaded 10h ago >PC market share graph ends 2021 You need more updated graphs, mate. PC market share has been exploding since 2021. So much, that even Playstation is putting their exclusives on PC now. Additionally, look for one that doesn't incorporate mobile games into the market share. They are completely different markets and completely irrelevant for RTS.

I think the biggest issue is the coolness factor. Terrans are cowboys in space, toss are paladin magicians, zergs are swarm predators. the animation is perfect - you can see and imagine the real unit. the game takes itself serious... lore, consistency, incredible voice acting at the end its just cool looking at Stormgate... it just is not cool enough for me. Animations are big turn off. every game have demons so they are nothing special. compare the feel and look on WC3 inferno with stormagate demons... that said I rly hope SG have a good start

The problem with RTS or any competitive game for the matter is free units. They're extremely hard if not impossible to balance. The only sensible approach that I see handle well free units is in Warcraft 3 where summoned units can be easily dispelled and killing them gain XP for the heroes. In games where there's no such hero mechanics, free units like swarm hosts in SC2 or pandas in Auto Chess are just plain stupid.

I dont think Stormgates gonna come even close personally... It looks so stiff and the designs arent really unique or inspiring

cuz its the best game evah! ZERG UBER ALLES!

I think Stormgate will take the crown. It's the first attempt at a spiritual successor to SC2 where the gameplay is modeled after SC2 and it's actually made by former SC2 devs. They're also using a modern, succesful model for making money and keeping the game alive. F2P which actually provides incentive for the developers to continueally update which also helps grow the player base. It already has a large community backing with a lot of the SC2 community looking forward to it, and they understand the desire casual players have for coop and team games, which RTS needs to attract new players. Yeah, they don't have a Blizzard budget, but they have a lot of experience which makes them a lot more efficient, espeicallly using tools like UE5 instead of building everything from scratch. It really feels to me like this is SC3. I am also excited for the other RTS games coming out. I hope they're successful, but they feel more like games that will never get too big and be more like a flavor of the month. I just hope the timing of all these new RTS games are staggered enough that each game gets a chance to shine and can bring more people into the RTS genre so they try the other games out.

Sc2 is not the best, just the most flashy and most competitive, so the esport is watched by many people. It's the most popular.

most rts fail because they try to outstarcraft starcraft

da fuck drugs you taking to this for SC2 oh yeah the hype currently behind it

Starcraft2 isnt even better then Brood War 😂

RTS is not popular nowdays, nowdays kids wants easy to control game, and i guess nowdays it didnt make much money with such small fan group which most is adult now and have less time to play.

"Lost Technology" on steam is better than boomer starcraft

Sc2 is too hard for casual

Honestly I hope stormgate never succeeds compared to Sc2