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Why Heat Pumps are Essential for the Future - Explained 

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@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF 2 года назад
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@danielroden9424
@danielroden9424 2 года назад
being tied to a grid system sucks - look at the rolling blackouts in california or texas. if you take away natural gas or oil you are putting yourself even more at the mercy of the grid. if you have solar this seems like the way to go but not many people have 50k for solar and 50k for geothermal so its not helping out the people who are affected the most by those high fuel prices.
@wpmulligan
@wpmulligan 2 года назад
The number displayed at 5:04 for Fahrenheit should be "14", not "-14." Further, the voice over says "10 degrees Celcius" but it should "negative 10 degrees Celcius." -10°C = 14°F
@scottstormcarter9603
@scottstormcarter9603 2 года назад
Generally yes, although water based appliances may not need it if the water heater uses a heat pump and the tank and temperature are correct.
@Daddo22
@Daddo22 2 года назад
Is there anything like HVAC in Teslas (Supermanifold) for homes that would integrate all the heat transfers in your home? It'd be incredibly awesome to have a hub, where you'd be able to connect all of your devices that produce and/or consume heat and have the hub move the appropriate amount of heat from source to "consumer" device. For sources in home, you could have your fridge, AC, even liquid-cooled PC or home server, for "consumers" you'd have your water tank and heating. Then external heat pump and the heat storage solutions could do whatever is needed at the moment. With this in summer, your AC would keep each room at set temperature and with the removed heat heat up your water for a shower in the evening with the help of your PC and fridge, which wouldn't heat up the rooms they're in (easing work for AC) and if that's too much heat for the needs of the house, heat pump would dump the rest outside. In winter, this would distribute the produced heat wherever it's needed and pull additional from the outside if and when needed (can be optimized to electricity price).
@TagiukGold
@TagiukGold 2 года назад
Yes, let's star with using heat pumps to cool small boxes to keep food in!
@Counterinfluence
@Counterinfluence 2 года назад
One technology that's far too often overlooked when it comes improving heating and cooling performance - insulation. It's not a sexy new technology but it's far and away the best method to improve thermal performance of a building. You don't even have to tear open exterior walls and add batts of insulation, adding blown insulation to your attic and changing to double or triple pane windows are easy fixes. I wish more people would talk about these simple fixes and think about responsible uses of energy as much as the latest technology.
@retireorbust
@retireorbust 2 года назад
Of course. Only idiots ignore that. Unfortunately there are so many people who think mass and insulation are the same thing. Oh, those castle walls must keep the castle nice and toasty. 😂 Europe would be so much better off if they took all that stone and made roads with it and replace every building with modern materials and homes with straw bales.
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 2 года назад
@@retireorbust They could have easily lined the walls with Tapestries and Brocades which was done even before the medieval period
@retireorbust
@retireorbust 2 года назад
@@RocketHarry865 That does nothing.
@MixedGrid
@MixedGrid 2 года назад
The massive issue with window upgrading is the time for ROI. It's extremely long. Blowing in insulation however is a pretty simple relatively cheap fix that you can even DIY.
@toddbod94
@toddbod94 2 года назад
@@retireorbust of course it does. Idiot.
@SeanCameron007
@SeanCameron007 2 года назад
I have a 220m deep hole in my garden here in Stockholm Sweden. The pump circulates the antifreeze mixture around as needed and normally draws out about 4-5 degrees celcius from the brine. Works great! COP of 4.8 producing up to 16kW. Running the system off solar panels would give you a double solar system as the heat from the ground (solar radiation) would be moved into the house by electricity generated from Solar panels :-)
@brucejri
@brucejri 2 года назад
Sounds like a great system! As an FYI, geothermal energy doesn’t come from the sun. It is a combination of energy from the formation of the earth and energy from radioactive decay.
@SeanCameron007
@SeanCameron007 2 года назад
@@brucejri according to the manufacturer of the heat pump, the heat is coming from ground water that has been heated during the summer months. No one claims geothermal, for that the hole would need to be much deeper.
@brucejri
@brucejri 2 года назад
@@SeanCameron007 that is interesting. I would have assumed that a 200m hole was deep enough for geothermal energy to dominate over solar energy (otherwise why dig it so deep?). But admittedly this is not my area of expertise and I assume (and hope!) that the heat pump manufacturer knows more about this than I do.
@SeanCameron007
@SeanCameron007 2 года назад
@@brucejri each meter of the bore hole's depth returns a certain amount of heat, if the hole is too shallow you risk freezing it and potentially damaging it. Plus, the deeper the hole, the higher the average temperature of brine circulating which improves efficiency.
@L2M2K2
@L2M2K2 2 года назад
@@brucejri The depth at which the geothermal component starts to dominate over the solar component depends greatly on the region. In most of Scandinavia, the Earth's crust is particularly thick and old which reduces the amount of heat coming from below. I checked a few test drill datasets, and the top 100 metres are often clearly affected more by the head from the above than the nice but very low heat gradient from below (and even below that, I would assume the relatively shallow hole of just a few hundred metres will get much of its energy ultimately from above after one pulls it a bit under the ambient rock temperature). In one of such datasets, I could even see the propagating wave of cold from the previous winter, at about 15 metres below surface during next summer... But, this same thick crust is easy to drill (rather, it is very hard to drill, but holds nice good holes which makes the total drilling cost lower as one “just” needs to drill and not to also do reinforcing). Thus, despite missing most of the geothermal component, it is often more practical to drill a few hundred metres down rather than bury a few hundred metres of heat gathering pipe at a depth below the frost line. (For bigger buildings, one drills a few 200-or-so metre wells, spaced adequately to not affect each other too much.)
@TheShoobah
@TheShoobah Год назад
I live in the middle of Sweden, so pretty far north. We use a heat pump. It's hooked up to our standard water radiators, and it produces our hot water too. Very efficient thing compared to the old electric heater. We've used it in temperatures of -20℃ with no problem 👍
@rudkhauz
@rudkhauz Год назад
Hi:) I'm writing an article about heat pumps and it would be helpfull if you share some data. Kind of heat pump do you use, model, power, type How much energy it consume and produce in -20℃ Electicity cost and price of heat pump How long have you been using this pump
@Crand0m
@Crand0m Год назад
I assume your house is very well insulated?
@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195
@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195 Год назад
I wonder if they have a different Refrigerant in the system ? Most systems near me are R-134 and I will bet that there's a new refrigerant that will do better in cold climates like yours. .............. Nick , NavyBlueSmoke , LST-1195
@pawelnotts
@pawelnotts 10 месяцев назад
Was it the size of your house?
@MMPCTV
@MMPCTV Год назад
I have an older home in Eastern Washington. I finally decided to upgrade to a heat pump a few years ago. Prior to having a heat pump, with baseboard heat, it wasn't unusually to see $300 and $400 during cold snap bills. I would turn my heat down and had plenty of throw blankets. Since installing the heat pump, my bills have averaged under $225 with the loan payment and during a nasty cold snap, my bill increased to $260, while keeping my house at 70. I'm amazed on how much money I save.
@daedalusdreamjournal5925
@daedalusdreamjournal5925 2 года назад
In europe, they're pushing for heat pump everywhere. You can't get classical AC anymore, you get heat pump. And they are not that expensive. And they work pretty well.
@blakksheep736
@blakksheep736 2 года назад
Good.
@CUBETechie
@CUBETechie 2 года назад
I have an AC build. District heating (also known as heat networks or teleheating) is a system for distributing heat generated in a centralized location through a system of insulated pipes for residential and commercial heating requirements such as space heating and water heating. It works great
@Alexandra_Wolf
@Alexandra_Wolf 2 года назад
That’s so interesting because in the states the only thing I see being pushed is solar. When building a house in most areas they don’t bring up anything other than the current status quo. Per usual Europe is both ahead of us in conversation and action.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад
Just about a couple of hundred difference in price between HP and AC
@mikestiglic1880
@mikestiglic1880 2 года назад
Europe is always ahead of the US in this regard. Combine heat pump units with renewables and the future isn't looking quite so bleak. Especially if we can get most ICE vehicles of the road.
@fakjbf3129
@fakjbf3129 2 года назад
I'd love to see a collaboration between you and Technology Connections, the more people who know the benefits of heat pumps the better. It took me over an hour to convince my father in law that they aren't a scam and that in fact he's been using one (the air conditioner) for decades without realizing it.
@grashoprsmith
@grashoprsmith 2 года назад
I agree about Technology Connections. That channel is amazing and goes into much more depth.
@PaulTMaack0
@PaulTMaack0 2 года назад
@@grashoprsmith I also like that channel, but I find the audio quality of Matt's videos to be preferable. If they're going to do a Collab, I'd recommend letting Matt do the microphone work. Lol
@walterrutherford8321
@walterrutherford8321 2 года назад
And his refrigerator is a heat pump too working in reverse to the air conditioner, pumping heat into the house from inside an insulated box to cool it.
@sandybarbee8401
@sandybarbee8401 2 года назад
You're wrong on so many counts !!!
@grashoprsmith
@grashoprsmith 2 года назад
@@sandybarbee8401 elaborate
@GregStroupe
@GregStroupe Год назад
Great stuff Matt. I am helping friends restore their 115 year old home, and I recommended their heat pump/air handler for heating and A/C. Also opened up the second floor walls and foamed them. Can't wait to see how well it performs. Looking into heat pump fro hot water. Replaceing the dehumidifier is brilliant! Wish I had done that in my home. My dehumidifier uses about a third of all my electricity keeping my basement dry. Sandstone foundations are sponges for ground moisture. I was doing heat loss calculations by hand in the late 70's. No software existed, no computers, just grind it out. This tech now was unimaginable then. Thanks for helping educate us on what the future looks like.
@Kangenpower7
@Kangenpower7 Год назад
Greg Stroupe, It might help you if you could dig out around your foundations, and then coat them with some water proofing! Maybe even 4" layer of cement, with some steel grid in that cement. Buying a excavator with a 6" bucket might help you complete that project, then sell the machine for about what you paid for it. Better investment that renting one for a couple of weeks? Some system of getting insulation into your basement walls, outside of the stone, so the stone can become a heat sink, while not allowing the frozen ground to keep sucking all the heat out of your home! Yes air source heat pumps can remove a lot of moisture from the air. And changing each pound of humidity into water collects 1,000 Btu's of heat! I installed a 120 volt 12,000 Btu ductless heat pump for my nephew that rents, so the indoor coil is mounted on a TV cabinet, and the tubing goes out the window, to the outdoor unit. It will provide 12,000 Btu's of heat with 1 KW, VS his electric heaters at 3,400 per KW. He can take the heat pump with him to another location when he moves!
@randalosgood
@randalosgood Год назад
Ten years ago I installed an open-loop(no digging, just uses well water) geothermal unit, plus all new ductwork. It paid for itself in just under four years, and I've been saving ever since. Plus with the desuperheater and a new super high efficiency water heater(used the old one for hot water storage from desuperheater) I get all-but-free hot water. No net carbon expect for power plant fuel costs(NG).
@0my
@0my Год назад
Wait how does that work? Do you pump a lot of water into the drain? My incoming water line from the well gets down to 45d F in winter, not much heat there to work with.
@paladain55
@paladain55 Год назад
@@0my coefficient of performance around 45F is extremely high for heat pumps. They really only start to become inefficient below around 17F. So at 45 you might put 1 unit of energy in and get 4.0 out, but around 17 you put one in and get 2.2 out. The only problem for most people is, is that a cop of 2.2 is usually equal in cost to a natural gas furnace here. So basically Mr geothermal stays at max cop pretty much all year
@paladain55
@paladain55 Год назад
But yeah main point is the lower the temperature difference of the outside unit to the inside unit the higher the cop you will get. Typically ground temp is 55 and inside will be 70. The new stuff will do a cop around like 5.0 on stuff like that. That's absolutely insane.
@robschultz9262
@robschultz9262 2 года назад
I just built a house over the last 2 years with the geothermal hvac, hybrid hot water tank and will be getting solar and batteries soon. Love the system and the cost to run was way lower than expected. The one thing I would recommend for your home is zone control for your hvac system. We did this and imo was the best spent money. By moving conditioned air to only the areas of the house that need it increases the overall efficiency. Cheers
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 2 года назад
Be aware that zone systems don't work smoothly with natural gas furnaces. We went with a 4 zone system last year when we replaced the worn out heater and added A/C. The A/C is no problem but we have to use the common area as a "dump zone" to give the furnace a guaranteed air flow. The alternative was a modulating furnace and the cost difference was intolerable. It still works for us but takes some fiddling with the vents.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад
I'm a HVAC company owner. Zoning will not save you one cent in power unless you totally insulate each interior wall in the entire house and use insulated doors. We've ran hundreds of experiments with this. Also reducing the total airflow of the system will cause the AC to use more power per BTU movement. Using zoning on gas, oil or propane system can be very dangerous.
@dukee4333
@dukee4333 2 года назад
A friend of mine got mold with one of those, he also had the vents closed so the window condensates and never got the airflow to dry up. Plus according to the other guy it's straining the system and doesn't help anyway.
@grashoprsmith
@grashoprsmith 2 года назад
@@flagmichael What you say applies to air conditioning too. AC's have a minimum required airflow that an improperly designed zoned system might not meet, causing early compressor failure and reduced efficiency.
@kkkkiaken
@kkkkiaken 2 года назад
A variable speed compressor as well as variable speed air handlers make all the difference! Swapped to this a couple years ago and and the electric bills were cut to 1/3 of the originals. I do live in AZ so it is mostly AC although the heat still works very well.
@Ojisan642
@Ojisan642 2 года назад
I wanted to get a heater for my pool. The up front cost to install a typical gas heater was too expensive because of the distance I would have had to run the gas lines so in exploring my options, I came across the idea of a heat pump. All of local the pool companies here in Texas said they won’t work well but the reality is that none of them had any experience with heat pumps. I found a company to install it and it’s been great. Not only does it keep the pool warm in the spring and fall, but it also can cool off the pool in the worst heat of Texas summer. No gas heater can do that.
@0Julime0
@0Julime0 2 года назад
maybe call the local pool companies again and explain them your experiences. maybe next time they consinder implementing that for a customer
@marcgianzero2707
@marcgianzero2707 2 года назад
That's interesting because here in southern California there really aren't any pool companies who install heat pumps for pools. One local company that I considered very knowledgeable about the latest technology said they don't work very well in our climate. When I did a bit of research, I read that an environment with mostly low humidity (which is where I am in Orange County) heat pumps don't work so well. Could this be the reason pool companies don't install them out here? We actually have 3 ductless heat pumps which heat / cool a few bedrooms here - love them! So quiet and efficient. However, I think when your asking about heating a pool / spa, that's a little more demanding on this type of system.
@2ichie
@2ichie Год назад
@@marcgianzero2707 hope you get a reply cause im in the same type of climate and really want heater for the pool. crossing my fingers that its possible.
@danhunters8226
@danhunters8226 Год назад
@@marcgianzero2707 Humidity will have a tiny effect on the efficiency. What matters most is the outdoor temperature, in Orange county that won't be a problem, there are heat pumps that work below -10°F.
@stanislavbandur7355
@stanislavbandur7355 Год назад
@@marcgianzero2707 that it means that in Orange county you do not use ACs? ACs are heat pumps too and why they can work there?
@roberthigbee3260
@roberthigbee3260 Год назад
Thanks Matt, pretty good. Heat pumps, including water heaters & dryers, are very interesting, but a couple clarifications! - First, outdoor heat pump compressor COP drops with outside temp. The Mitsubishi “Hyperheat”, what I own, has a COP of 4 @ 48 deg F but drops to 2 @ 5 deg F. I also have a condensing gas furnace (95% efficient) using traditional radiators. The cost cross-over point for me, for what I pay for gas & electricity is ~35 deg F (close to 0 deg C) meaning that based solely on cost considerations, I should turn on my condensing gas boiler when the outside air is below 35 deg F. If your heat pump takes its heat out of/ puts heat into buried underground pipes, this does not apply since ground temp, at a sufficient depth, is ~55 deg F in my area. Heat pump water heaters - Matt and/or the company he got his information from, makes a mistake here. The savings you get goes down in the winter. For example, in the winter, the water heater heat pump extracts the heat from your house, not from the outdoor air, so it adds to your heating bill. This is true even if the device is in the basement since a cold basement chills the floor of the upstairs. In the summer, you will get a little free cooling and also some free de-humidification, but not enough to replace your main A/C unit or even your basement dehumidifier (depends on how moist your basement is). This is like how in the summer your refrigerator, also a heat pump, blows hot air into your kitchen which then must be cooled by your home’s A/C (old cats like sitting at the base of refrigerators because of the heat). In short, it is best to have a ground water based hot water heat pump, or heat pump of any kind, but, as Matt said, it is going to cost more $. So who is going to invent a ground water based refrigerator, refrigerators run 24/7! Heat pump dryers with no vent to the outside - OK, I never heard of these until this video. My first thought was lint. Outside my house, by the dryer duct, there is always extra lint even though my dryer has a lint filter. Lint buildup can cause fires, which is why I have a metal foil dryer duct which I vacuum out every couple of years. Also, the savings are not that dramatic since dryers are only run once in a while. Using Matt’s numbers, an old-fashioned electric dryer costs a max of $0.55 per a single run and an electric heat pump dryer costs a max of $0.33 per run. I do 3 loads a week, 156 per year. That’s $85.80 for the old-fashioned dryer and $51.48 for the fancy dryer, a difference of only $34.32 per year (NBD). I am also dubious about the claim that the heat pump dryer lasts twice as long since it is arguably a much more complex machine. Complexity inevitably leads to a higher risk of breakdown and washer/dryer engineers, long ago, were instructed by their management teams to design washers & dryers to fail sooner than previous designs forcing consumers to by these gadgets more often. Final comment - I want to echo Matt’s statements about how weird heat pumps seem, where they can seemingly create, for example, 4 units of heat energy using only 1 unit of electrical energy. Matt gave an OK explanation, but not the best. It all makes sense if you draw an imaginary “control volume” around the entire heat pump system (including both the inside air handler and the outside compressor/heat exchanger) and then draw arrows representing energy into and out of the control volume. For example, during the summer, go outside when the outside compressor fan is on, and put your hand in front of it - the outside unit's fan sucks warm outside air into the outside unit and expels air much warmer than the ambient outside air, this represents a net energy flow exiting the control volume. Inside the house, the air handler sucks in your somewhat cool, but hotter than desired, inside air and expels into your house much colder air which represents a net energy flow entering the control volume. Lastly, electrical energy is being added to make the system go. Compare the difference in energy per unit time between the inside & outside air flows, which is the amount (rate) of energy being "pumped", with the rate of electrical energy used to get the coefficient of performance, COP (COP = (pumped thermal energy converted to Joules) divided by (electricity converted to Joules) for a chosen span of time, note: 1 Joule per second = 1 watt). Conversely, during the winter, the air coming off of the outside compressor will be colder than the ambient air around you and the inside air handler expels heat warmer than the inside ambient air (pumping direction reversed). The big clue is the word “pump” in the term “heat pump”. Stunningly, air-conditioners, since their invention, were capable of generating both heat as well as cooling. All that had to be added to the design of the old-school A/C unit, to enable both cooling and heating and which was mentioned by Matt, is an electrically controlled valve that flips the coolant lines. When petroleum was dirt cheap, back in the good old days, it was economically viable to ignore the energy savings inherent in a bi-directional heat pump. This is not the case anymore. BTW, this energy pumping business is philosophically the same as what you do when you carry a propane tank for your gas grill from your truck/car to your gas grill. Clearly the energy in the propane tank is much higher than the energy you expended moving the tank from your vehicle to your grill, therefore generating a huge COP. Hopefully this comparison did not confuse your further.
@bluebooper
@bluebooper Год назад
Fantastic comment
@KevinChernenkoff
@KevinChernenkoff Год назад
I'm trying to wrap my head around the efficiency difference between a heat pump and gas furnace for heating homes. Do you know anything about the energy efficiency of the power plant and transmission vs. natural gas production and distribution? Obviously this will vary depending on what type of power plant you get energy from, and where your NG s produced. But in order to compare apples to apples, the energy efficiency of one's local power plant should be included with the heat pump efficiency/COP. Similarly, the energy efficiency/COP of NG production should be included with the furnace efficiency. Matt does mention that combining these with solar panels would be net zero - but most people will use local utility power.
@bluebooper
@bluebooper Год назад
@@KevinChernenkoff Correct. For your information, the max theoretical efficiency of a hydrocarbon based power plant (Rankine cycle) is 40% efficient (conversion of chemical energy to electrical energy). When you consider that NG boilers are typically 80-90% plus efficient (chem energy to heat energy), this is why, for heating, electric resistance is actually worse than NG in terms of GHGs assuming a 100% hydrocarbon based grid. But as it turns out, depending on your climate, heat pumps are typically as good if not better than NG heating in terms of GHGs even with a 100% hydrocarbon based grid. And that obviously gets better as the grid is decarbonized. Hope I answered your question. For more info I recommend the cover article in the Sept 2021 issue of the ASHRAE journal.
@KevinChernenkoff
@KevinChernenkoff Год назад
@@bluebooper Makes sense. If a heat pump has a COP between 2 - 4, if the source power is 40% efficient, this is still roughly 0.8 - 0.16 compared to the furnace that is about 0.8 - 0.95. If the grid is decarbonized that does decrease the total carbon output of a heat pump, whereas a NG heater will always be carbon based. I've got another question - since you seem to know a lot about this! I live in upstate NY, and the state just passed laws to transition all homes off hydrocarbon heating (for new homes after 2025, and replacements of existing units after 2030). I haven't done a lot of research on the power grid capacity, so this question is really hypothetical. If there is a cold day (let's say 0 degrees F), all houses simultaneously need more heat at the same time that heat pump efficiency drops. If the COP drops by some factor (let's say 4x more electricity is required per unit of heat transfer), and the energy required goes up by some factor (let's say the heat lost from the house is 2x), the electricity requirement for the heat pump goes up by the product of these two (8x in my example). Furthermore, I've heard some people way that heat pumps in colder climates have a resistance heating backup for cold weather (with an even lower COP and higher electricity demand). The electricity grid is obviously designed for some peak load. Is there any concern that the existing grid will struggle with peak loads once ALL houses have heat pumps? It's quite possible that the magnitude of power for heat pumps in all houses will be a small fraction of the grid supply, and/or I may be framing my question incorrectly or making bas assumptions. So I'm curious what you think. To clarify, I am not trying to "fight" heat pumps, but understand whether there is a trade-off with the benefits of redundancy and a NG system already designed for peak-load heating. Thanks!!
@bluebooper
@bluebooper Год назад
@@KevinChernenkoff The numbers in your example are a bit exaggerated, but sufficed to say that, conceptually, you are on the money. I would say leave your NG heating in place as back up for those days when the cost or emissions (whichever you prefer) of the heat pump no longer make sense (different for every grid) as compared to NG heating. Depending on the climate where you live, heat pumps are the most energy efficient with lowest GHGs most of the time. However as you say it's those peak heating conditions that the heat pumps and thereby the grid is pushed the hardest. As a result with all of this electrification of heating, the power utilities are having to expand their capacity, leading to higher electrical rates in general. This is not too bad, but the real challenge comes when trying to decarbonize the grid at the same time with renewable tech that is in many cases more expensive than fossil fuels and not always immediately dispatchable depending on the type. I work in this industry (in the energy efficiency subsector) and these are the challenges we are working against as businesses, institutions, and as a society today when it comes to sustainable heating. We need to focus on not only efficiency on the demand side (buildings & industry; extremely important since there are innumerable easy wins out there), but also focus on investing in the right technology such as hydrogen energy storage (for storing intermittent renewable sources; better than batteries), modular nuclear fission power, as well as continuing to try to figure out nuclear fusion power.
@insideoutadam
@insideoutadam Год назад
I installed DIYMr Cool Heat pumps up here in NH last year and they have been great but I honestly didnt realize just how efficient they were. I keep finding myself on this channel during random searches. Great videos! Keep it going
@WeyounSix
@WeyounSix 2 года назад
You weren't lying when you were hyping up your animation team. Once again, whoever you hired to do these animations are so good at making incredible visuals that are easy to understand. I really do think they aid a lot in easily understanding these concepts for visual learners, massive kudos for this overall fine level of detail work you put into these. Also, your throughput is surprisingly fast for the quality of content. Great work.
@shadowofmyfutureself
@shadowofmyfutureself 2 года назад
Seconded. I second all of that 👆👌
@ericfranke1637
@ericfranke1637 2 года назад
I agree, but most of it is from heat pump companies
@williamfigueroa6503
@williamfigueroa6503 Год назад
The only drawback with heat pump dryers is the difficulty level to clean the evaporator coil once is clogged up with lint. No matter how many filters they have to prevent them from getting any lint it always happens. You will notice the drying time increasing overtime. I love the idea but it still needs improvement. My A/C on the other hand is also a heat pump. Running for 16 years and not a single problem so far. Great video. Thanks for your dedication.
@mattbland2380
@mattbland2380 Год назад
I’m glad you mentioned tumble dryers. I was wondering if the waste heat from a traditional dryer could be channeled towards a heat pump system, or efficiently stored rather than simply vented into the atmosphere. In the future I believe that most homes will have any many ‘closed loop’ systems as possible for heat, energy and water. These advances will likely be useful for environments where water and electricity are scarce - like in low earth orbit, the moon and Mars. This will be yet another arena where space tech helps us on earth and our improvements feed back to space tech. It’s not just about Velcro and Tang 🙂
@steffenlee2960
@steffenlee2960 Год назад
There are already dryers (or tangent systems) which utilize the waste heat generated. But these new heat pump dryers don't fit that description because they don't have any waste heat. In the above mentioned system your house would receive unwelcome heating much of the time if there was no duct. That is because the dryer is generating heat from electricity or gas, using it, and then it becomes "waste". With the heat pump dryers the unit is "taking" heat from the air immediately around the machine, using that heat, then rejecting it back into the same space. There is some additional heat generated by the machine itself (via the heat pump compressor), but that is roughly 1/4 of the heat "generated" by a conventional machine. I agree with your comments and mostly just wanted to give credit to the idea that waste heat from conventional dryers (elec or gas) can absolutely be used, though it is not economical or practical to do so outside of commercial laundry operations. In such, it is not uncommon to extract heat from the vented dryer air (using a water coil) and use that heat to "pre-heat" the water for the washing machines (using a water heat exchanger). Cheers!
@richardreynolds6398
@richardreynolds6398 Год назад
I built a box going to my vent wherein I could manually change from exhausting the dryer to venting it through a filter into the room. A little moist but heat paid for already. I'm also guilty of running the dryer a few minutes to heat things up. Worked great. Then I moved.
@vickichamberlain9124
@vickichamberlain9124 Год назад
In the winter when it is freezing you risk icing up your unit from the humidity. Also you dont want ANY lint to make it out to your heat pump coil fins. I vent my dryer into my house when it is time to heat my house. My filter is a nylon. The benefit is 1. get to use heat you paid for 2, a little extra humidity in the home in the winter 3. You are not drawing cold air into your home. For every cubic foot of air pumped out of your house another cubic foot of outside air must be drawn into the home. Which can be problematic if you are trying to heat your home and now must over come the cold air you are drawing in.
@hvacmike1175
@hvacmike1175 Год назад
Heat pump dryers are here and will probably become common over time. The problem will be repairs. Dryers today are simple and easy to repair. Yet rarely need more than a good cleaning our last dryer was 13 years old when it quit working. I doubt my new one will last as long
@rafars2246
@rafars2246 Год назад
Just worry about bringing energy everywhere, more than energy waste. We need cheap energy more than ways to save it. I we can achieve both fine. Cheap energy is everywhere, but the evil people who manage this planet don't like for us to enjoy it.
@sanpietroprogettista9887
@sanpietroprogettista9887 Год назад
I agree, a few years ago we added a 5 zone split system to the house as part of our solar install and due to the rebate. The ability to selectively cool or heat the rooms we are in versus the entire house was such a cost savings. It’s worked flawlessly and we love it.
@mikepowell3335
@mikepowell3335 Год назад
San Pietro Progettista-- FIVE ZONES? Are these mini-splits? Are you using separate zone sensors/ thermostats, each with separate duct fans and a central controller of some kind? Are there return ducts for each zone? We just installed a 24 SEER Bryant Evolution split system (identical to Carrier Infinity), with communicating variable-speed air handler using our existing two-zone ducting and I'm having trouble with one room staying a bit too warm (and, I assume too cool when it's time to use the heat). Just wonder how you're getting control of each zone if using just one air handler.
@sanpietroprogettista9887
@sanpietroprogettista9887 Год назад
@@mikepowell3335Hi Mike, it’s two Lennox split systems. Both are 3 ton. We abandoned and removed the ducting under the house and went with the wall units in each room. All the piping and cables run through the attic. The family room and living room units are on one handler and the 3 bedrooms are on the other. The units do a great job, the living room unit cools/ heats the living room, dining and kitchen quite well as long as I run the ceiling fans. We live in the desert/ mountains and it’s extremely hot here most of the year. Having the ability to just cool the rooms we are using and not losing a ton of air under the house saved us over a grand a month. The wall units do need a lot of care and cleaning. You can’t ignore the service on these units either. While I am not big fan of the having giant boxes on the walls in every room, the trade off of efficiency and savings allowed us pull the ducts and re floor the whole house AND now when a skunk gets under the house I don’t have go and fix all the ducts.
@nevinsparkinson3913
@nevinsparkinson3913 Год назад
@@mikepowell3335 Mini-split zone systems can have air handlers controlled by separate thermostats. The condenser can be smaller than the total capacity of the air handlers in some cases, saving costs. This works best when pairing rooms on opposite sides of the house so heating or cooling needs shift as the sun moves.
@LDavis-ll5yr
@LDavis-ll5yr 2 года назад
I am an engineer and I love your videos. I disagree with you that the life span of a heat pump dryer is double of a traditional electric dryer. Traditional electric dryers are very simple. No matter where I have moved, I have always bought an old used dryer (with moisture sensor... important) and just repaired it if need be, at a very low cost. A new belt for my $150 used dryer, for example, was recently $14 and I installed it in 15 minutes. A heat pump dryer is much more complicated and I would argue practically not repairable by a homeowner. In contrast, an electric dryer, especially one with an easily-replaced mechanical timer, could easily last 20 years, or even infinitely if you know how to replace the drum bearings. The heating element is cheap and easy to replace. The motor can be serviced at a motor shop. They are about as simple as an appliance as you can imagine. My point in all this is that if you can hang dry your clothes, or at least 'some' of your clothes, and use a classic electric dryer 'only' for select items (towels, sheets, or things needed right away), you can reduce your total clothes drying costs to a very minimal amount without spending $2k on a complicated appliance with a lot of moving parts, refrigerant that can leak out, computer boards that can fail, refrigerant disposal issues, specialist repair technicians, etc. I just use a fold out rack in my laundry room and every item I hang on it costs exactly $0 to dry. I have my dryer when I need it. I've even taken 90% dry items off the rack and finished them in the dryer very quickly. If you are in the habit of taking your own bags into a grocery store, hanging a few items to dry on a rack is about that hard of a habit to form. Plus your clothes last longer. When you empty the lint filter, that lint you are throwing out is your clothes! There are some situations where my argument has less merit, of course. I admit that. A busy mom with kids in humid rainy Houston is not going to want to hang dry clothes. But I would still maintain that a simple old-school dryer with a moisture sensor and a mechanical timer can last decades.
@beltrams
@beltrams 2 года назад
I agree that hang drying is generally the best option. I'm in Massachusetts and have been hang drying 95% of the time for years and years, infrequently using a secondhand electric dryer when I really have to dry something *right now*. I'm kind of disappointed to hear that Europe and Asia are going so much for heat pump dryers because as I understand it, they and most of the rest of the developed world had largely passed on powered clothes dryers, even in multifamily housing, opting instead for drying racks and clotheslines. Even if more efficient than a traditional gas or electric dryer, that's a lot of new and complicated heat pump dryers being installed around the world. I will say that having lived in south Florida for a year, a dryer of any type would be a huge improvement over a busy family trying to hang dry many loads of clothing in such near-tropical places.
@kingduck3192
@kingduck3192 2 года назад
Definitely agree with older dryers I would never buy a new one when it cost less than $150 to rebuild an old Maytag. I have an LG mini split cooling a grow room and it is a headache compared to a traditional window AC.
@Nilezy
@Nilezy 2 года назад
I disagree on traditional electric heated dryers for clothes drying period. They damage and destroy any material you put into the dryer over time because they use very hot air (even when put on the lowest heat setting) The advantage of a heat pump dryer that most don't mention is they can dry clothes at room temperature as they don't rely on heat evaporation, rather on condensation. This alone is worth the value! They are also not complex and are a close system so the loss of refrigerant is the same as any closed system appliance (your refrigerator) The only reason they take longer is they are compact in design on the evaporator side to fit inside the standard dryer dimensions when they could have a rather large evaporator incorporated into the body and dry clothes even faster than using heat evaporation in traditional dryers, which translates into running cost savings and suit the majority of people who don't have patiences to hang dry or are limited in space to hang dry (think 600 sqft condo) Trying to persuade those impatient people is like trying to push water up a hill with a stick, especially in this world of modern convenience and fast pace.....
@laren2499
@laren2499 2 года назад
@@kingduck3192 What is the issue with your mini-split?
@ckl8a
@ckl8a 2 года назад
I agree the ventless dryer is way too complex to outlast a regular dryer. My dryer is gas and came from a friend(much older than me) when I bought my first house. I've considered getting a new one but at this point I have to know if it will ever break. I've used it 100% trouble free for over 10 years and it's about 50 years old. He also gave me the matching washer which never broke, but I did eventually get a newer one just because the old unit didn't agitate the clothes very well.
@brandonhayes1868
@brandonhayes1868 2 года назад
As an HVAC Contractor... I can not thank you enough for creating this video for me to share with my customers. THANK YOU!!!
@AntonySimkin
@AntonySimkin 2 года назад
As an HVAC contractor, I was looking for this comment haha. May I join to the THANK YOU part? :)
@joelfrisch5431
@joelfrisch5431 Год назад
Ground Source Heat Pumps are amazing but it’s not only the upfront cost that is a concern…it’s also the complexity of the system. There are many more points of failure and they require more maintenance. I have an Air Source unit in central New England and my costs are very reasonable considering what hearing oil users pay in my area.
@willcunningham3892
@willcunningham3892 Год назад
Working as a maintenance tech for Arcadia Bluffs Golf Club, I monitor 50 heat pumps. One for each room. Most are about the size of a 3 cubic foot freezer. Other than the network system circuit board and the system software that monitors all of the components of each heat pump via a computer interface, the 50 heat pumps are a very simple machine. I am amazed that one minute the forced air is putting out 53 degrees and after the switching valve changes when the tenet adjusts the thermostat wanting it warmer in the room, the air then turns to 82 degrees. 99% of the maintence on each unit is only changing air filters. That's it,,, they just work!
@fintux
@fintux 2 года назад
I've had my heat pump clothes dryer for over 10 years now, and at least in Finland, most of the clothes dryers being sold are now heat pump based. I see the cooler air as a pro, as it's more gentle on the clothes. The easiest way to shorten the drying time is to get a washer with a high RPM spin cycle (1400 or more) - which also means less energy is used for drying. In Europe, there are some washer-dryer combos, too, based on heat pumps, which wash and dry your clothes all in one go, no need to lift the clothes from the washer to the dryes.
@TheMalbroughs
@TheMalbroughs 2 года назад
What brand is it? Our Samsung heat pump developed a terrible moldy odor, so we had to get rid of it. I would like to try another brand, so I'm looking for suggestions.
@imakedookie
@imakedookie 2 года назад
@@TheMalbroughs lmao you had a clogged drain and you chucked it? what is so difficult about getting someone to fix it??
@fintux
@fintux 2 года назад
@@TheMalbroughs it's Bosch (practically identical to Siemens). It's one that has automatic condenser cleaning, which might help with the mold issue. Also, after every drying, we leave the door open, which might also help.
@M33f3r
@M33f3r 2 года назад
What about the fact that it is literally pumping the water from your clothes into the air in your home? Is increased air humidity not an issue, or even desirable where you are?
@richardgregory3684
@richardgregory3684 2 года назад
_I see the cooler air as a pro, as it's more gentle on the clothes_ And the flipside is, it takes much longer to dry, meaning much longer tumbling cycles and thus mechanical wear on the clothes. _In Europe, there are some washer-dryer combos, too, based on heat pumps, which wash and dry your clothes all in one go, no need to lift the clothes from the washer to the dryes_ I would never buy one. It is a single point of failure, and far more complex internally, as the machine has to be designed and have all the parts necessary to handle both air and water and to keep them strictly separate. A washer-dryer is more than twice as complex internally as two separate machines The easiest and cheapest form of dryer is an outdoor clothes line! Your clothes are dried quickly and for free. I have a dryer, but it is used very rarely, and then mostly on almost-dry clothes as a brief tumble takes out the stiffness in the fabrics and rmeoves the final slight dampness line drying leaves on cooler days with little wind.
@glamdring0007
@glamdring0007 2 года назад
I did a mini-split heat pump self install 3 years ago at my small ranch home and I have to say it's one of the best things I've ever spent money on. My heating is now primarily done through my heat pump instead of my oil fired boiler in all but the very coldest parts of winter. The savings are impressive...I've gone from buying fuel oil twice a year (it just cost me over a grand to fill my oil tank) to once a year and my electric bill has only gone up an average of 50-75 dollars a month during the heating season. I estimate I'm saving between 500-700 dollars per year in heating costs depending on how cold the winter is and will have paid for the heat pump in less than 5 years through my savings. The added benefit of having cooling in the summer is simply a bonus in my mind.
@jimziegener8724
@jimziegener8724 2 года назад
Sounds great, how often do you need to clean the mini split filters? Can you just vacuum, or do you need to wash and dry the filters?
@brianjonker510
@brianjonker510 2 года назад
At what temperature does your heat pump become inadequate?
@KirchTX
@KirchTX 2 года назад
@@brianjonker510 I have a mini split heat pump on a garage apartment that was working during the freeze we had in Texas in February 2021. We were down to 7F outside and the room was warm. Our house didn't lose power which is key of course.
@peterpan4038
@peterpan4038 2 года назад
Another benefit: Usually it's not a big problem to get affordable oil, but nobody can say for sure this will always be the case. We can't control the supply of stuff we need, but we can at least lower our own dependance. It's a bit like growing some of your own food. It may or may not save you money, but it sure as hell makes you more independent in case stuff isn't available or hella expensive.
@laren2499
@laren2499 2 года назад
@@jimziegener8724 Mini-split air filter is a non-issue. You can just pull it out and tap it into a trash can and brush it off. No replacement needed. It is vastly easier than a furnace filter. Of course, it is only a particulate filter. We also have a stand-alone HEPA fine particle air cleaner
@victorsr6708
@victorsr6708 Год назад
Heat pumps are fantastic way to go! Iv been in the HVAC business for 35 years and I’m installing HP’s on a daily basis and even installed one in my business. The key is to make sure you purchase a HP with an inverter. We are starting to install HP water heaters as well.
@stevewilson8267
@stevewilson8267 Год назад
Wow nice broadcast on heat pumps. I am grateful you spent time with this.
@KevinLyda
@KevinLyda 2 года назад
Four years I had a petrol car and an oil fired central heating system. Now I have heat recovery ventilation, more roof insulation, an EV, solar panels and an air to water heat pump. Four years ago I used around 70 MWh of energy annually for my house and car. I now use around 18 MWh for the same thing (a little hard to exactly track all the energy used by my EV for public/work charging). Of that, around one third of that energy was locally generated. So yes, heat pumps everywhere.
@paulies5407
@paulies5407 2 года назад
The construction of solar panels is the world’s 3 largest source of greenhouse emissions. EV’s are far from green also.
@WileyFox01
@WileyFox01 2 года назад
I think you mean Kwh not Megawatts - unless your house is a powerstation.
@RandomGuy-nm6bm
@RandomGuy-nm6bm 2 года назад
waiting for answer please tag me
@astranger448
@astranger448 2 года назад
It works because you started at the start. Insulation and heat recovery ventilation. I bet you also spent some time making everything very airtight. Once you done this your heat pump will be a great deal smaller. Ask me how I know ;-)
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад
I started to purchase a used ev with a bad battery at 80,000 miles (freaking ridiculous). I checked around for the refurbished batteries that they say are available, they don't exist. I checked with the special the factory was supposed to have for a new battery at $5,600. It doesn't exist. Found out the replacement battery is going to cost around $20,000. I've never paid over $5000 for a whole vehicle and am able to drive that used vehicle 300,000 more miles. Do the calculations, you'd break even finding a really nice used large displacement V8 vehicle that gets 14 mpg.
@charredbirchguy2349
@charredbirchguy2349 2 года назад
We installed a new Miele clothes dryer last year. It works well. As mentioned in the video, it takes longer to dry clothes than the electric forced-air dryer it replaced. Also, it is not quiet, though it is less noisy than the dryer it replaced. One of the side benefits is you can reclaim the water from the dryer. When installed, you have the option to run a drain hose to the house drain. Or, the dryer has a built-in tank to collect the water. In the later case, you empty the tank manually. This water is kinda-sorta distilled. We use it to water plants in season, or use it for flushing toilets as needed. A load of bath towels gives up about 1/2 gallon of water. We we surprised! Another benefit over the forced-air dryer in the summer is that I'm not taking air-conditioned, cooled air, heating right back up and forcing it outside. There are savings involved, but I'm not sure how to quantify that.
@robhosken2351
@robhosken2351 Год назад
This is good! As an architect whose main motivation is protecting our environment, I fully support conversion to heat pump heating and cooling systems powered by renewably-generated electricity! One thing Matt left out is the fact that the heated air coming out of a heat pump is about 90 degrees F, whereas heated air coming from a gas furnace is about 130 degrees F. So the way the heat FEELS to people in the house is different. With a gas furnace, you can sit near a heater register and get warm quickly. With heat pumps, that does not happen. If your home has spots that are particularly cold in the winter, they may get worse when you switch to a heat pump. Comfort is a huge factor in why it is more important to have good air sealing and insulation in exposed floors, exterior walls, and top level ceilings in buildings that use heat pumps (which is what I focus on in my work). An added advantage of that is that, in addition to increased comfort, the amount of electricity and cost needed for your heat pump to keep you comfortable goes down even farther.
@marktvcturner2448
@marktvcturner2448 Год назад
Thanks for a great video. I went solar late 2021 and changed to heat pump dryer and hot water as well as getting rid of natural gas altogether. The savings are amazing. My total energy spend per year has been reduced by 74%. Cheers!
@foxesandsuch
@foxesandsuch 2 года назад
I had a Miele heat pump dryer for almost a year now and it's pretty great. What I didn't expect is that this dryer (and its companion washing machine) totally changed how we do laundry, for the better. The fact that the dryers don't get as hot is actually a good thing, because overheating clothes makes them wear out faster (even when accounting for the longer tumble time, you come out ahead). However, the lower temperature and just how the dryer works, means it's important to sort laundry into similar fabrics. For example, if you try drying some jeans and t-shirts together, the t-shirts will dry before the jeans. You should be sorting this stuff anyway, but a heat pump dryer really forces you to do this. So, we got 4 smaller laundry bins and now we pre-sort as we throw the dirty laundry in: towels/denims, dress shirts, cold, and regular/warm. This way, we're always ready to run a quick load, at the appropriate settings. No more time spent digging through a pile of laundry, sorting the colds from the warms. It's great.
@gislump7984
@gislump7984 Год назад
Does the room the machine stands in become colder?
@schawi99
@schawi99 2 года назад
10 years ago we built a house with an air-to-air heat pump, that heats the house as well as the hot water tank (combined). We also installed a heat pump dryer, which is very much standard here I believe. The energy prices are high enough already... Best regards from Switzerland.
@hondaguy9153
@hondaguy9153 2 года назад
Ooohh, I forgot about heat pump dryers. I'm going to swap our water heater for a heat pump water heater when the current gas one fails. I'll have to get a heat pump dryer when our current one fails. Thankfully it's an electric dryer and we have solar/battery right now.
@randywl8925
@randywl8925 2 года назад
I'm assuming you saved money?
@matthias4
@matthias4 2 года назад
All the money you could've saved with not buying and using a dryer in the first place.. All the best from Germany, I thought dryers were not that common in Europe.
@hondaguy9153
@hondaguy9153 2 года назад
@@matthias4 how do you dry clothes in the winter?
@matthias4
@matthias4 2 года назад
@@hondaguy9153, just as in the summer: I hang them on a laundry rack (inside the house). Sure, in the summer it dries quicker outside, but it works inside just as well, regardless of the time of the year. Of course you shouldn't keep the door/windows closed so the humidity isn't trapped inside. But my parents and I haven't had any problems with that in the last decades. I save several hundreds of € for the not-bought dryer and 2-3kWh per not-use. Barely anyone who I know has a dryer, but I'm not completely sure.
@MrKalashnikov47
@MrKalashnikov47 Год назад
So my youngest brother(civil engineer) had an oil fired forced hot air furnace and a broken air conditioner, he also had 12kw of solar panels on his roof. We replaced the old furnace and ac with a hybrid heat pump setup, his highest electric bill since the conversion was around $2. And he only used a quarter of a tank of fuel oil(60 gallons). New technology is amazing.
@cellularexpress1619
@cellularexpress1619 Год назад
I sure hope the service business improves for mini-split heat pumps!! I installed three 12k btu mini split heat pumps in my Atlanta home 12 years ago that have worked flawlessly up until last summer. I noticed one wasn't cooling well and wouldn't produce heat in heat mode. I made several phone calls trying to get it repaired, but service techs wouldn't even look at it. Every one of them wanted to just install a new unit. The units I purchased 12 years ago were very efficient 14.5 EER (not seer), and I was reluctant to just throw it out. Finally, I convinced a friend of mine who does commercial HVAC work to come and have a look. The problem was simple. A service port schrader valve had a torn O-ring causing a slow freon leak. He replaced the schrader valve, recharged the system, and it's been running fine ever since. Good thing I didn't throw it out! Sheesh! I also have a DIY heat pump hot water heater (AirTap A7) in my basement that's been running well for 11 years. The A7 installs over a standard hot water heater tank and at $700 was pretty affordable. I love my heat pumps!!
@jerrymiller276
@jerrymiller276 2 года назад
My brother had a home that used a water to air heat pump system. There were two wells on his lot and heat was extracted from the water coming from one well and the cold water returned to the other. In summer the direction of water flow was reversed. He did live in an area where the water table was very near the surface, though, which helped keep the cost of drilling the wells reasonable.
@jerrymiller276
@jerrymiller276 Год назад
@@leedon7435 So that explains why my A/C and my heat both run off the same heat pump. Who knew?
@andrewwebb9249
@andrewwebb9249 Год назад
The water/water variation of this is the most effective/efficient heatpump system you can install. There are caveats and risks, however, and in practice it is pretty rare. Sole/water is typically installed instead of this, but also has prohibitive cost and space requirements - cash aside, many new land plots assigned in Europe don't have enough spare land surrounding the building for such drilling to be an option. As a result, air/water pumps are ubiquitous here, but typically can't cope with the coldest days in winter - even in modern and well insulated homes with efficient, under-floor heating loops.
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Год назад
@@jerrymiller276 all AC are heat pumps. They pump heat out of your house in the summer. Models that do both cooling and heating simply have a reversing valve that switch the direction of flow for the liquid refrigerant in reverse. They then pump heat from outside into your home. The air on the outside compressor will be even colder than the surrounding air, even in freezing Temps.
@Whatsamattau2
@Whatsamattau2 2 года назад
Wish I was aware of any of this last year when I had to replace two HVAC units, a water heater & dryer in my house last year. Your programs are always so informative. Thx much
@1sinister80
@1sinister80 Год назад
I do HVAC I'm in Phoenix Az the Home of the Heat Pump from Goettle. That was a great machine. Heat pumps are getting better all the time. 20 years ago they would Heat down to 40 degrees outside so for deserts they worked great. Now I have a WSHP that can Heat with water down to 34 degrees and cool with water Temps up to 120 degrees.
@isaacsnyder8908
@isaacsnyder8908 Год назад
HVAC expert here, Heat pumps may not have less carbon footprint unless you are on solar. Because of the up to 10kw heat strips even in the southern states they end up pulling way more electricity up to 80kw averages for a 25F day. The water heaters are a different story these are much more green because they’re usually installed inside. And being compared to full electric water heaters. The 80% fossil fuel on the grid is again the major point. Great video, very good info!
@paulb9769
@paulb9769 Год назад
So it uses the same amount of energy. Factor in manufacturing costs and emissions. Are they really the answer or is it just the new 'thing'?
@tobyvision
@tobyvision Год назад
@@paulb9769 I honestly believe in the US it is mostly about community planners not wanting to route gas at all in the future. This may change, but I think that is the driver right now. See: Texas the last couple of winters for results.
@TheGelatinousSnake
@TheGelatinousSnake Год назад
In very cold climates you can build a small gas fire place with coils for the heat pump. Heat that normally gets wasted up a chimney can be pumped under the floor. Gas fire eliminates need for defroster, and gas heating becomes less wasteful.
@nevinsparkinson3913
@nevinsparkinson3913 Год назад
A natural draft fireplace will never be efficient enough to be used as a primary heat source. I do like the concept, though. I'd recommend using a woodstove or direct vent gas fireplace that can direct heat from the heat exchanger through ductwork. You could find a way to safely install coils into the ductwork. (p.s. I'm a certified Master Hearth Professional.)
@Sebastianimator
@Sebastianimator 2 года назад
I didn't realise these systems weren't as widely used in the rest of the world. In Australia, they're basically the only type of system you can get and are definitely very efficient. They work very well in our climate as we do experience all the seasons (tending more towards the warmer side), but without extremes. I have even automated my house to turn my split systems on in summer while there's excess solar generation in order to trap some of that cool air inside. It's especially good to come home to an already-cool house in Summer.
@JoLynch0
@JoLynch0 Год назад
I don't think that's really true. I think you would find the vast majority of our heating and cooling in Australia is still gas or electric.
@isobelsmith6999
@isobelsmith6999 Год назад
Heat pumps are big in Tassie.
@Sebastianimator
@Sebastianimator Год назад
@@JoLynch0 You are misunderstanding the video I believe. All split systems/inverters in AU in the last... 15-20 years I believe run on this gas and are heat pumps. We just don't call them that here. Are there some places that still use gas? Sure, but not many compared to the number that use split systems.
@deanstyles2567
@deanstyles2567 Год назад
@@Sebastianimator A lot of homes here in Victoria use gas heating. Decades of cheap gas from Bass Strait and a cooler climate mean it's still common to see in homes. I've switched my heating/cooling to heat pumps but the hot water is still gas... for now.
@jaredwilliams8621
@jaredwilliams8621 Год назад
Honestly, it makes a lot of sense somewhere as warm as Australia. Many homes could probably do just fine with heat pump only setups (no need for backup systems). Where I live, Utah, a heat pump only system wouldn't work, so I would need a dual fuel system, which has a higher initial cost. Also, natural gas is MUCH cheaper than electricity here. If I switched to an electric furnace, it would cost me over double to heat my home. A very efficient dual fuel heat pump could just about match a gas only furnace in fuel costs, but the initial cost is still more expensive.
@ericb.4358
@ericb.4358 Год назад
LOVE this video! Never knew about heat pump dyers and water heaters.Thanks.
@mattcbinns
@mattcbinns Год назад
We have had a heatpump dryer for 4 years and love it. We only use it in the winter though as we hang clothes outside to dry in the warmer months for free!
@haleigh479
@haleigh479 2 года назад
Another technology helping with this is energy recovery ventilators - pre conditioning incoming fresh air using the exhaust. That way you need less heating or cooling overall
@controlfreq9346
@controlfreq9346 2 года назад
Excellent point, I have a Panasonic ERV. It works as advertised, verified by measuring air temps throughout. New builds require fresh air intake to comply with indoor air quality standards, as you noted, an ERV overcomes the inefficient direct draw of outside air.
@dougle03
@dougle03 2 года назад
Heat recovery is not a new technology. Most large buildings like offices here in the UK have been doing that for a while now. It was not originally an energy saving feature, but more to pre-warm fresh air being introduced into the system using the warm foul air being extracted.
@ericfranke1637
@ericfranke1637 2 года назад
Yup, but you need a tight house for it.
@dadsfave
@dadsfave 2 года назад
I made a DIY heat recovery bathroom fan. Made the heat exchanger out of tin foil and coat hanger wire. Plus fans and ducting.
@adamdragon8549
@adamdragon8549 2 года назад
Unfortunately ERVs do not save much on heating and or cooling, they however can make your home healthier.
@mutantbob
@mutantbob 2 года назад
My electric dryer is 20 years old and easy to repair. The two repair men who have serviced say it is a lot more reliable than modern fancier units. I wonder how many manufacturers are cutting corners that will affect reliability.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад
Mine is about 35 or 40 years old
@douglasashby4349
@douglasashby4349 2 года назад
I have had a European heat pump dryer for 11 years and use it almost every day. It's still going with one service by an agent.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад
@@douglasashby4349how do the heat exchangers keep from getting coated with lint? Heatpump dryers aren't mass produced like regular dryers which probably makes them higher quality,,, for now
@douglasashby4349
@douglasashby4349 2 года назад
@@Bryan-Hensley my dryer is an Asko brand. There is a lint filter in the door and then another filter over the heat exchanger. The unit over the heat exchanger requires cleaning every month say after 40 loads. Just needs washing by sand in the tub. The dryer has a third lint filter on the condensate this requires emptying or cleaning once every 40 loads. The unit does remind you to clean both these filters and if you don't they will eventually block and the unit will not run.
@tobyvision
@tobyvision Год назад
@@douglasashby4349 The first adopters in the US will do this kind of maintenance. The majority will not.
@matthodel946
@matthodel946 Год назад
I live in CO. My friend did the heat pump water heater and he just exhausts this cold air out of a vent. Even better would be an actuated damper so you can cool in summer months from the exhaust.
@adamwalker7338
@adamwalker7338 Год назад
Thanks man. I am in Europe and way behind the curve on varmluftpumpen. This video is quite helpful. Right now our per kilowatt charge is doubling (it was very low before) so there is motivation to install heat pumps. I've got a real screwy house layout so I will have to supplement with electric radiative heat, hopefully minimally. We looked at solar and we just don't have enough roof space to generate all of our needs. It has gotten quite windy here over the past few years so maybe a wind + solar solution might be the way forward. Hands down, the heat pump is our single best way to cut our electrical use in our home.
@Xunek.
@Xunek. 2 года назад
It's great that you're taking us along the jorney to your new home and deliver hands-on experience on future home technologies!
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF 2 года назад
I'm really excited to share more about it.
@LOOGamala
@LOOGamala 2 года назад
what materials are you going to use? there are many building materials built from waste. From replacement plasterboard, structural ply, insulation and concrete using recycled concrete and additives such as fly ash and steel slag. mineral extenders such as limestone too.
@nc3826
@nc3826 2 года назад
@@UndecidedMF Ideally, moving heat is more efficient than using energy to add heat. 1) So consider tying together most of the heating and cooling appliances in your new home (i.e refrigerator, HVAC, hot water generation, etc) into a closed looped system.... 2) Then add a heat storage medium(s), such as a phase change buffer.(i.e a heat battery (and a lower heat (ie cold) storage)). Since there is latency between the demands of the different appliances, so a buffer is needed to use the heat effectively. 3) And then only one heat transfer device such as an Absorption Chiller unit that can be powered by a source of heat, such as thermal solar panel (instead of the electric needed by an air to air or ground to air heat pump, which still could be used)... Can replace all the separate heating and cooling mechanisms in each appliance.... I know I left out a lot of the complexity of actually doing it. But it has been before. And you know what they say? Go big or go home ;)
@6800891
@6800891 2 года назад
My dryer vent plate designed to open only during active drying, got stuck open and allowed wasps to build a nest around the vent hose. So, eliminating the need for an outside air vent connection is very appealing to me regardless of efficiency! Already have to drain water for the washing machine so can use that to empty moisture created by the heat pump.
@Francisco_Manos
@Francisco_Manos 2 года назад
I had a bird try to build a nest in my dryer vent when that got stuck open :)
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 Год назад
I found a window mounted heatpump A/C that puts out 10k BTU for about a third the power of two, regular 1500W space heaters. About 5 amps @ 230v. When it's above 40°F outside, that's all I need for the whole house. When it's below freezing, it's break even with the built-in electric heater. The auxilliary power plant runs off natural gas, so I'm not replacing my ventless wall heaters yet. When they subsidize solar again, I'll put panels on the roof. Insulation is a huge factor that I'm not hearing about lately. That can easily cut your electricity use in half. There used to be grants for that too. I have brick walls, so I'm putting half inch polyisocyanurate foam on the inside with prefinished paneling.
@mattminasi4856
@mattminasi4856 9 месяцев назад
Great video! As an engineer myself its always a challenge to get your info info down to the appropriate level to get thru to your audience. In this video (like most of your others) you hit the mark. BTW the curiosity stream deal isn't working anymore... Keep up the good work!
@kc7ekk
@kc7ekk Год назад
Great video Matt. Thanks!! You're preaching to the choir with me for sure. Had a ground loop heat pump in my last house and absolutely loved it. Wanted to do one for my new house but the costs didn't pencil out. Ironically a super energy efficient home has lower energy bills and therefore the ROI for a ground loop heat pump skyrocketed to around 69 years. LOL. So I went with an air source heat pump instead. Also the Rheem hp water heater you showed, which is amazing BTW. Even though air source heat pumps are slightly less efficient than ground loop, this is only the case a few months out of the year. It's been 3 years and counting with the HP water heater and air source HVAC heat pump. It's mind blowing to watch it run and heat the home when it's howling and 4°F outside.
@firdaushbhadha2597
@firdaushbhadha2597 2 года назад
Technology Connections channel has a very awesome series on this, he has been repping heat pumps for years.
@Sentrme
@Sentrme Год назад
Thank you!! I'm seriously researching Heat Pumps for my home.
@dennisd9554
@dennisd9554 Год назад
Wish we had known about this when we replaced our oil furnace, blower and water heater about 5 years ago. Definitely will go this route next time we have to.
@privatemale27
@privatemale27 2 года назад
Pretty cool to see the appliance options. It would be nice to see some sort of whole home thermal management system that all of the appliances could tap into. Run a cold water line to from your house heatpump your refrigerator for a first past chilling with a compressor on the fridge cooling the freezer and dumping waste heat into the water line heading back to the house heat pump. so it could be used for heating hot water, heaters, clothes dryers, etc...
@jasexavier
@jasexavier 2 года назад
I've always wanted to do something like this too. I work for a large university that is partially set up this way. Our central power plant provides electricity, steam, and chilled water to every building on campus. This provides all the space heating and cooling, but many other things as well. There are still a lot of freestanding freezers, etc., but built in units usually cool their condensers with the chilled water system. Many experiments that need water cooling also use that system. Clothes dryers, autoclaves, and many other things are either preheated, or heated entirely, from the steam system.
@jasexavier
@jasexavier 2 года назад
@@toddthreess9624 I agree. I think it's probably best to do it the way I was describing above, with a single cold line and a single hot line, with a central heat pump moving heat from the cold to the hot. It's less efficient than carefully matching individual devices and using their heat directly where it's needed, but not by a lot and it would be much easier to manage when it comes to adding and removing devices.
@lyleseaman4414
@lyleseaman4414 2 года назад
@@toddthreess9624 It's a good point. OTOH, I think the things that usually fail on refrigerators are seals and the compressor. jasexavier's proposal would a big, high-quality compressor instead of a cheap one stuck on the back of the fridge. A system like this probably wouldn't be cost-effective for a single-family dwelling, but it might make sense in an apartment building.
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 2 года назад
Nice thing (didn't mentioned) is that heat pumps have potential also in district heating. For example Stockholm uses couple of largest ever produced to warm up spaces for it's residents and it uses sea water in it's heat exchanger which unsurprisingly is much, much more efficient than both air and ground
@porcupinebutter
@porcupinebutter Год назад
I work at a major HVAC company in the states and am currently redesigning large cabinets with the new refrigerants. Heat pump is our new standard
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Год назад
11:45 The lower heat is an advantage, not a disadvantage! It’s way gentler on fabrics - in regular mode, a heat pump dryer is cooler than the delicates mode on a traditional dryer. In delicates mode, it’s cooler still. I’ve had a Siemens heat pump dryer for nearly a decade and I’m very pleased with the results.
@richardsoncuthel810
@richardsoncuthel810 2 года назад
I live in Wisconsin. Tho am still trying to make a decision on a new heating/cooling system due to my poor financial state couple with inflation. You are correct, the problem is the cheap natural gas. To run an electric heat pump in my winter means not only do I spend more upfront for the system but I also pay more for the fuel to run it. I do get the benefit of the heat pump system having a higher SEER rating on the cooling mode than a normal AC unit but the costs and savings still don't make much sense for me. If I do it, it's because I am planning for solar later which makes it more attractive and i have to work my ass out
@willlategan7558
@willlategan7558 2 года назад
​@Elizabeth Mcclain you should channel that question to the congress men and political heads not Matt. inflation and recession is hitting us very hard, Gas up, prices up, grocery up, everything is x3 or x4. the worst is we are not having any raise at work place. i wonder the method to employ in order to stay above waters , we are drowning
@lylahthompson2169
@lylahthompson2169 2 года назад
Inflation is gradually going to become part of us and due to that fact any money you keep in cash or in a low-interest account declines in value each year. Invsting is the only way to make your money grow and unless you have an exceptionally high income to purchases. Personally I hired ‘’Katherine Duffy Burke’ an invstmnt advisor . Under her guidance i was able to accrued $130,000 in the last 5 months
@colbyryann2665
@colbyryann2665 2 года назад
@@willlategan7558 Inflation is gradually going to become part of us and due to that fact any money you keep in cash or in a low-interest account declines in value each year. Personally I hired ‘’Katherine Duffy Burke’ an invstmnt advisor . Under her guidance i was able to accrued $130k in the last 5 months
@mialangley2388
@mialangley2388 2 года назад
Inflation is gradually going to become part of us and due to that fact any money you kept in the bank or in a low-interest account declines in value each year. what we need is an invstment planner who will help managed and positioned our finance by minimizing loss and maximizing gains
@richardsoncuthel810
@richardsoncuthel810 2 года назад
​@@mialangley2388 This sounds like a great idea, but never knew how to go about it, Have you seek professional assistance before? what is the experience like.
@gigahalem9584
@gigahalem9584 2 года назад
I love your videos and always eagerly await the next! Thank you for all that you do, Matt!
@Mark-gg6iy
@Mark-gg6iy Год назад
I like your manner of delivery, your pace, and the graphics. Your English is easy to understand.
@tomschmidt381
@tomschmidt381 Год назад
A couple of years ago we installed a LG minisplit air-to-air heat pump. When we built our house 40+ years ago installed a cordwood stove in the basement and electric baseboard heaters to keep the bank happy. We are in NH. Last year we used the heatpump for summer cooling and heating. This winter due to the high cost of electricity we decided not to use the heatpump and instead have gone back to 100% cordwood. It is nice to have an alternative source of heat. For domestic hot water we have a conventional electric water heater. However we augment that in summer with a solar batch heater in our attached greenhouse. That provides about 1/3- 1/2 of our summer hot water needs. In winter I installed a heat exchanger in our wood stove, that supplies almost 100% of our winter hot water needs assuming we heat exclusively with cordwood. Our electric utility offers a slightly lower rate for electricity used for water heating. Currently we have a conventional electric dryer. When it needs to be replaced I will check out heatpump dryers but I have a couple of concerns besides cost. The well documented lint problem and where does the moisture go? We live in a fairly high humidity area in summer and because the house is so tight we don't need to add humidity in winter so I'm reluctant to add more water vapor to the air. Good luck on your new house.
@CrownRider
@CrownRider Год назад
We bought our first heat pump dryer about 15 years ago. The power to run the dryer is 700 Watt, which means it can be on the same 16 A (230 Vac) circuit breaker as the washer.
@Jan-Jan-Jan
@Jan-Jan-Jan 2 года назад
Great video, thanks! The cooling gasses used in heat pumps are often a 100 times more greenhouse potent than CO2, so they must be very carefully installed (and disposed of by the end of their life!). I thought thats an important thing to mention.
@rickrooney7812
@rickrooney7812 2 года назад
While this is true, as we transition low lower GWP refrigerants in the near future, this will be less of a concern.
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 2 года назад
No different than an air conditioner. But, they're already beginning to work on alternatives to R134a.
@adamdragon8549
@adamdragon8549 2 года назад
@@rickrooney7812 another scamm, lowest gas available with rating of around 750 years … it’s one big lie that’s what it is. Literally everything about environmental protection is a lie
@altosack
@altosack 2 года назад
100x more potent greenhouse gas than CO2 is really a pretty useless comparison because in one case, it’s a disposal issue, whereas in the other, it’s most often a continuous production issue. It may be more useful to say that if you let all the R410A leak out of your heat pump (which would never happen), it would take an equivalent gas furnace in a 2,000 sq ft home in Kansas in December way less than one month to emit an equivalent amount of CO2’s worth of global warming potential. However, if you are getting your electricity from natural gas, your heat pump will cause that amount of CO2 to be emitted at the utility in between one and two months. Conclusion: The potential CO2e emissions from leaking refrigerant gasses from your heat pump is absolutely negligible compared to anything else you do in your life. Don’t sweat it. (Absolutely keep your heat pump in good repair and don’t let the fluid leak, but the global warming potential will be higher due to reduced efficiency than leaking refrigerant.)
@plchacker
@plchacker 2 года назад
It is a closed loop. As long as construction is good and the system is properly maintained, the release of refrigerant is limited to very small amounts. IT is not like you are replacing the gas every fifteen minutes.
@ChadMcFarlane
@ChadMcFarlane Год назад
First experience with a heat pump here in San Diego. Honestly can’t tell the difference between it and a conventional heating & cooling system. Definitely worth the investment.
@ambassadorkees
@ambassadorkees Год назад
Having a 15kW ground-to-water heatpump in Finland, works like a charm for 10 years now. It reduced my energy consumption by 35% while we simultaniously added 80% to the heated living area of our home. Floor heating running at 45°C, some radiators at 35°C and plenty of hot water of 55°C
@mv80401
@mv80401 Год назад
Hydronic floor heating works perfectly with heat pumps because it requires lower water temperatures. The drawback is you need a separate system to provide cooling, and only a few floor types are optimal. Hybrid heat pumps exist that will handle both a floor and air system but are hard to find.
@ambassadorkees
@ambassadorkees Год назад
@@mv80401 in my care site to the old house's construction, the for actually needs higher temp than the wall radiators.
@mv80401
@mv80401 Год назад
@@ambassadorkees I don't doubt it as radiators don't have to penetrate a floor substance to heat a room. But in the US radiators are rare so by comparison radiative/hydronic floor heating is still lower temp
@zelozejn
@zelozejn 2 года назад
Hey Matt, glad to hear you're going into net zero home. I recommend the book "Let It Shine: The 6,000-Year Story of Solar Energy". It made me realize the orientation of a house is essential for a good solar gain and shading. I was amazed how good knowledge of sun's power was already in history and also how easy it wanes from society. tl;dr is orientation directly to south, with broadleaf deciduous trees east and west to provide shading in the summer but solar gain in the winter.
@nicstroud
@nicstroud 2 года назад
I'd love to know what constitutes a 'net zero home.' When does the counter start? After you've installed all the lithium-ion, rare earth magnet and other destructive, carbon intensive mining products. After the coal burning factories have made your solar panels from mined silica and carbon intensive aluminium. After the petrochemical rich plastic tubing for your ground source heating is buried. Until we address where the energy comes from to make our 'net zero' world, we are fooling no one but ourselves.
@zelozejn
@zelozejn 2 года назад
@@nicstroud I agree we need to address where the energy comes from, and best energy by far is energy not needed. Best heating system is a heating system not needed - passive house. No need for energy, no need for materials for heating system and no need for handing out money for that heating system. It matters which materials we use and it matters how much material we use. And it matters, because we only just seriously started tracking carbon footprints.
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 2 года назад
Thanks for the TL:DR version. Although I read your comment, was nice to have that summary.
@MrBLAA
@MrBLAA 2 года назад
Lol, these things are complete farces.🤦‍♂️ Look, Basic Physics…. Hot “”wants” to be Cold (aka: cold to hot~> need energy). Basically, these things _will_ hear your home= to 16% efficiency of a standard induction coil heater
@zelozejn
@zelozejn 2 года назад
@@MrBLAA You clearly do not understand how this works.
@suzithewitch
@suzithewitch Год назад
We're in our first year of using a heat pump. (It came with the house.) I've been happy with it (and the energy bill) so far. I hope that summer will have me feeling the same way :)
@jakob4321
@jakob4321 Год назад
I install HVAC systems for work and an interesting thing I've noticed is that most heat pumps, furnaces, and central air conditioners that people purchase are on the lower end of the efficiency scale on the energy guide stickers. I don't believe I've seen any units past the halfway point
@wiezyczkowata
@wiezyczkowata Год назад
what's the price difference between the best and the worst?
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Год назад
That's because the cost for the more efficient ones is sometimes double or more. Depending on the cost of electricity in the area it might not save them money to go with a higher efficiency unit.
@57hound
@57hound Год назад
I have a Fujitsu mini-split style heat pump that heats and cools a small outbuilding. It is remarkably cheap to run, especially for cooling in the summer. I also have a Miele condensing clothes dryer. It has seen almost daily use for over 8 years now. Compared to a conventional dryer, at the end of the cycle, the clothing, bedding and towels do not feel bone dry, but a quick shake dissipates any residual humidity. The fabrics are warm, but not really hot as they are with a conventional dryer. It is very important to remove any lint thoroughly, and once very several months a thorough lint cleaning of the dryer’s internal ducting is needed. This is easy to do, though a little tedious. Overall I am very happy with both the Fujitsu and the Miele. They only regret I have is with the size of the Miele. I really wish we had opted for a larger unit. We have the smallest model they make. Perhaps if you are a small household, 1-2 people, and your laundry needs are quite modest you will be happy with the small Miele, but if you are an active family with several kids I would strongly recommend getting a larger dryer.
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 2 года назад
An additional angle for the geothermal is the use of ponds for your ground loops. You can also use abandoned wells. It eliminates digging and decreases the length of the coil needed. Even an evaporative water feature can be surprisingly effective.
@brianjonker510
@brianjonker510 2 года назад
Not only does that decrease the capital outlay it increases the efficiency of the heat pump. Major overlook by Matt
@dahur
@dahur 2 года назад
I had my Rheem heat pump installed in Nov. 2020. It's a 5 ton 21.95 SEER and 11.5 on the heating side. Last winter here in southern NM was the first full winter with it. They also installed a 98% eff. propane furnace/air handler for the backup. I had put the heat pump lock out temp at 20 degrees, and I ended up using about 10 gallons of propane for the entire winter. Not bad. I think this next winter, I'll turn it down to 15 and I might not use any propane at all. The heat pump didn't seem to have any problems heating my 2200 sq. ft home last winter and we had a dozen or so nights in the teens. This would make me net zero as I have a 12.4 KW solar power system that more than supports my entire all electric home. I also put in a Rheem heat pump hot water heater, and a Samsung heat pump dryer. I've embraced heat pump technology, and I can say first hand it's the way to go.
@mickjager5974
@mickjager5974 2 года назад
What refrigerant does it use?
@dahur
@dahur 2 года назад
@@mickjager5974 410A I think
@ChrisLee-yr7tz
@ChrisLee-yr7tz 2 года назад
Hi. How much did your heat pump system cost? How much was the solar PV system?
@dahur
@dahur 2 года назад
@@ChrisLee-yr7tz The Rheem heat pump for heating and cooling is their top of the line Prestige Series variable speed, and with the furnace and air handler, Rheem digital thermostat, everything was $16k. My original 3.6 KW PV was installed in 2010. After fed and state tax credits the cost was about 14K. Last summer I added 8.8 KW and the after tax credit cost for that is about 18K. I over expanded my solar because I have plans on getting an EV.
@ChrisLee-yr7tz
@ChrisLee-yr7tz 2 года назад
@@dahur Thanks for the info. Did i read correctly - so nearly $50k for everything?
@dolliscrawford280
@dolliscrawford280 Год назад
I didn't realize that I had installed a heat pump heating and cooling system for my air conditioning until I watched this. I love it. In a few weeks we will have solar on our house. I am wondering how the dryer lint works with a heat pump dryer?
@christopheredginton6242
@christopheredginton6242 Год назад
Really looking forward to your videos on the new house build. Hope it encourages people to adopt your ideas.
@OnHoldAt50
@OnHoldAt50 2 года назад
Watched a lot of your videos before I realized I wasn't subscribed yet (am now). Amazing they push to my home page anyway. Your videos strike a nerve with this versed ET. Thanks for the time and energy you put into production.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF 2 года назад
So glad to hear my videos keep making their way to your homepage. Thanks for watching.
@davidyule3605
@davidyule3605 2 года назад
Thank you Matt. Another great video filled with information about how we can lessen the impact on our planet. Well researched, pointing out the wonder of heat pump technology, as well as the negatives. Best of luck with the building of your new home!
@georgecarstens6430
@georgecarstens6430 Год назад
R410a is the most common refrigerant used today in the US. Love the channel!
@ChrisJones-qw7bn
@ChrisJones-qw7bn Год назад
We got an AtA type heat pump for our home. Stratigically placed it can heat/cool the ENTIRE House with ease. We love it and the saving are quite good. Best part about it was it cost us NOTHING!! It was rolled into a community action council weatherization program funded by the Federal Gov. and State of WA. Got a new membrane roof, Fully insulated the roof and Floors, Repaired the floor ducting from the electric furnace and went through and fully referbished that furnace too. New moisture sensing bathroom vent that can run on auto or manual and a full weather sealing of all doors and windows. If you OWN the home...LOOK INTO these programs!!! Totally worth the time!!!
@birdrocket
@birdrocket 2 года назад
Something that could help with efficiency even more is relaxing zoning laws to allow for more duplexes/quadplexes/apartment blocks/etc. since each home in those buildings shares at least one surface with another home, minimizing heat loss. Also has a lot of other benefits, like reducing the amount of driving that needs to be done, embedded carbon due to construction, less infrastructure needed to support, and so on
@eaaeeeea
@eaaeeeea 2 года назад
North America really needs this! It's awesome here in Europe to have lots of apartment complexes (within walking distance from businesses and services no less). It's far more efficient than suburbs although we do have those too.
@astranger448
@astranger448 2 года назад
Energy calculations for buildings in the EU center around this. A very modern freestanding house with top insulation and ventilation systems is not as energy efficient as a flat with only one side exposed to the elements. And improving this flat is simple because you need to improve only that one side. Free standing homes are not our friends.
@ryanfagan4563
@ryanfagan4563 2 года назад
Great video Matt. I have been using ASHP for years. First the Mitsubishi, but since I live north of Albany, -15 wasn't good enough (it shut down often). When I built my newest net zero home, I used Gree sapphire, Seer 38 and down to -22.
@mv80401
@mv80401 Год назад
Chinese HP manufacturers now have superb SEER and HSFP values, surpassing the competition. In China they sell for $500. One company is now building a mega factory in Texas and I sure hope they bust open the market.
@nickjunes
@nickjunes Год назад
As a Southern California resident it's interesting to hear how much emphasis you put on heating and then add cooling as an after thought. Everything is literally the reverse here. We almost never touch the heater but have to run the A/C many months of the year. We're all very familiar with air conditioners so if you just explain that heat pump is an air conditioner running in reverse then we'll understand. Of course we don't really think about how efficient our heaters are since we rarely use them. Even more rare is using the heater in a car.
@jamesodell3064
@jamesodell3064 Год назад
Come visit us here in Michigan in January. You and the kids will love building a snowman and playing in the snow.
@susanrosegale6646
@susanrosegale6646 Год назад
So much great information - saving this video for when I build, with Net Zero in mind too. Thank you so much!
@bondhuis
@bondhuis 2 года назад
Lots more building videos please, especially on your decision processes, thoughts, ideas and opinions. As a former LEED specialist there are so many ways to achieve improvements. As others have said removing the need for energy is theoretically the best solution, but achieving that last 10% can be prohibitively expensive.
@stanislavbandur7355
@stanislavbandur7355 Год назад
most people say that you need PVs and electricity is holy grail. What I would do without electricity, how I poor will charge my smartphone and run PC, but ... My PCs take less than 100W, my phones take less than 50W every other day and so. Most of energy we need at home is heat. Even if I would like to play games on super ultra mega graphic card (what I do not) every watt in is turned into heat (a tiny fraction travels to the internet in form of a signal). Yes, mining, rendering CGI and so is very energy=electricity intensive, but how many people are there doing that regularly? Good insulation can keep heat in (or out if needed), drying on rope (if it is possible) is viable without electricity and industrial washing machine (or DIY mixing valves) can run on very low energy cost (because of heating water out, mot in). Unfortunately, using solar oven is not a case for everyone and it needs direct resistive heating (HPs end at roughly 60centigrades).
@Fanta....
@Fanta.... Год назад
@@stanislavbandur7355 I have all sorts of computers and stuff in my room so it's always nice in winter. For summer I run a reverse cycle aircon and have solar so it works great.
@julianugentarchitect
@julianugentarchitect 2 года назад
Yes - I’m all in on heat pumps! As an architect, I’ve been involved with both air source and ground source over the years, and here’s my take on the two: ground source is more efficient and will last longer, but installs are complex because you are never 100% sure on conditions until you start drilling/digging. Air source are much more predictable, but I worry about sending hot air back into the environment in urban settings, contributing to heat island effect.
@richardbartlett6932
@richardbartlett6932 2 года назад
sending hot air back into the environment? can you explain that please
@laren2499
@laren2499 2 года назад
People are going to use air conditioning for cooling whether it is from a heat pump or a single function AC. Putting summer heat into the ground (usually just a few feet down) or into the air (rather than onto surfaces like how sunlight produces heat islands) is not going to make a significant difference. Most homes have to issues with ground source heat pumps, compared to air-to-air. First is the extreme cost difference, which gets relatively worse with the less heating a house needs. The second is available yard area. Well systems are even more expensive. There are also times toward the end of both the heating and cooling seasons when the temperatures of the ground around the tubing is not as favorable as the outdoor air temperatures. Ground source systems can be a great choice for larger buildings that also have large ground area, such as schools, but they are severely challenged for houses, especial those that are energy efficient.
@rgfs71
@rgfs71 Год назад
What an excellent video! I installed a heat pump at my previous home with a natural gas furnace for augmentation. The home was relatively new and well. The furnace kicks in at outdoor temperatures below -5 [C], which occurs about 4 to 8 weeks each year. The way I see it, a heat pump is just an air conditioner that can run backwards. Our furnace and AC unit needed replacement, so it made more sense to spend a little more and get a heat pump instead of AC. The heat pump is better thought of as augmenting/replacing the use of the furnace for much of the year. It really doesn’t make sense to install AC in homes anymore. They should all be heat pumps. I now live in a condo which also has a rather sophisticated heating/cooling system that also employs a heat pump, but takes the concept even further. The building was constructed in 1852 and recently converted into condo’s. Individual units have AC and a heat exchanger with hot/cold water supplied by a heat pump/evaporator on the roof, augmented by natural gas boilers for the coldest months. The cool part is what happens during spring and fall. At those times of year, the air is still cold but the south facing units get a lot of direct sunlight, requiring AC, while the north facing units still require heat. The heat extracted by the AC is dumped into the water circulating the building, providing the heat necessary for the north facing units, which subsequently cool the water for use by the AC. So during these months, the entire building acts as a heat pump, effectively redistributing excess heat from the south side to heat the north side. Very efficient, and very cool!
@alanhodgson7857
@alanhodgson7857 Год назад
Yeah I'm in a mild climate zone and I can't believe people are still building new builds with no heat pump. I don't even use my gas furnace any more (cutover set to -10C, which almost never happens).
@PaulHojda
@PaulHojda Год назад
Heatpump dryers are more or less the norm here in Denmark. You'd be very hard pressed to find a vented dryer in any store. I have an LG heatpump dryer and am very pleased with it. It dries everything in roughly the same time as my old condenser drier and only uses a third of the electricity (about 600w compared to 2000w).
@claytonspann8032
@claytonspann8032 2 года назад
Matt, thanks for the detailed overview. We installed a geothermal in our last home in Maryland and loved it. A very quiet system and had actual warm air coming out of the vents (our original air to air heat pump was cool air). It also had a ‘super heater’ that grabbed excess heat energy and sent it to our water heater.
@donaldspaulding6973
@donaldspaulding6973 2 года назад
Can I ask what it cost you for installation? I'm not sure I can afford it.
@monte0704
@monte0704 2 года назад
De-Superheater, is the actual name for that device.
@uptoolate2793
@uptoolate2793 2 года назад
How long did the system take to pay for itself?
@REG3305
@REG3305 Год назад
... net 0. Until there is minimal sun for a few days. Then, you will be back on "cheap" (at least it WAS before Presidunce Xiden started messing with it) and reliable fossil fuels. Ever notice it is the wealthy (like MATT) that push "renewables"? It's because they CAN AFFORD THE KNOWN LOSSES they harbor and simply promote the costly positives. How are those solar panels made? Or more importantly how are they disposed of?
@caesars7hills892
@caesars7hills892 2 года назад
I have been looking at this for my own space. The cheap install route is an air source heat pump. I really think, even in cold climates, with a COP of 3.5 to 3.7, your opex is flat and you can displace like 90% of your natural gas for heating in the Upper Midwest.
@FuncleChuck
@FuncleChuck 2 года назад
Can confirm. Last home was “dual fuel” hp and barely used gas in Indiana. New home is ground-loop heat pump. Similar costs.
@caesars7hills892
@caesars7hills892 2 года назад
@@FuncleChuck do you have a make and model recommendation?
@laren2499
@laren2499 2 года назад
We heat and cool our 100 year old, 1200sqft house, in a 6700-7000HDD climate, with one centrally located (upstairs loft) high efficiency (HSPF14) low temperature (-22°F) 12000BTU mini-split (GREE Sapphire) and an 8"diameter vertical duct down through closets, with an efficient and quiet 400CFM fan to circulate warm air down from the upstairs ceiling to the main level during the heating season. During the cooling season the fan is off and the air just cascades down off the loft, and stairs and spreads throughout the house. It was inexpensive to install (~ $2000 DIY), and our energy costs are lower than our gas heated neighbors. We have standard ceiling heat lamps and a small portable electric heater (very seldom used) in our bathroom. We also have one of the small heaters in the master bedroom but never use it. In our living room we have a small glass front woodburner that is set up to pre-heat winter air for our heat pump water heater. During the heating season we light it to supply the water heater with 100+°F air for our Sunday night soak in our big corner tub. We spend less than $50/yr for water heating. We also light other fires on very cold mornings using scrap wood from a furniture factory, but we very seldom burn fires at night, now that we have the mini-split. We buy our electricity from a local community solar farm, so we are fossil fuel free. We are now in the process of wrapping the house with recycled foam insulation.
@johnnyfreedom3437
@johnnyfreedom3437 Год назад
I just bought my first new home and am trying to make my home as energy efficient as possible. so when it came time for air conditioners I bought two new heat pumps. but I didn't know about the heat pump dryers. when we need a new one, that will definitely be the thing! I love all of the information I get on this channel. trying to choose solar panel Brands right now
@embreis2257
@embreis2257 Год назад
11:50 amazing. in Europe, we are using heat pump dryers for about 10-15yrs. for a couple of years now all older technologies (like condensation dryer) disappeared from the market
@davidkendall2272
@davidkendall2272 Год назад
Yep, we took out our natural gas furnace and water heater, and installed Trane Heat Pump and Rheem hybrid heat pump water heater 10 years ago, and have been overjoyed with out positive experience, which also included adding solar and powerwall batteries, and Tesla EVs (3 MS's and M3 thus far).
@TrailBreak-Travel
@TrailBreak-Travel 2 года назад
Just moved back from Scotland and lived in 2 houses 10 miles apart, similar build Era, first had a heat pump electric) installed 2019, 2nd had a gas combi boiler. 1st had updated insulation 2nd basic Fibre glass insulation. Heat pump house permanently cold and we ended up using wood burner to stay warm. 2nd was toasty warm with gas alone. Price for electric in 1st and gas/electric in 2nd was roughly the same but with wood for wood burner we were an extra £400 a year. Wouldn't touch electric heat pump. My experience was costly to run and house was permanently cold. Others in UK reporting the same including installers. Unit was a Modern, Mitsubishi electric heat pump. Be care full what u install!!
@Daniel-deMerrivale
@Daniel-deMerrivale 2 года назад
Thanks and I feel your points need listening to for us in the UK. Most people moving to heat pumps here do not seem to factor in that the capital costs are huge (including the insulation costs, plus larger sized radiators for certain systems) and repayment lifecycle is sometimes ignored. Also the comfort levels (a point you rightly make in my view) are not always good (in fact as per your experience not good at all). I think that is not unusual for UK. Also, the UK infrastructure seems to be groaning and not catching up with the “requirement” and sales pitches. Factor in also the needs to move to car charging for everyone? I feel that all we are getting is the message about the benefits without the downsides and your point, for me, balances that. Cheers.
@Karjis
@Karjis 2 года назад
I have read from really many sources and it seems that old UK buildings somehow just doesn't work with heat pumps. Insulation is poor and if building is cold it means that the heat pump is not sized correctly or the heat distribution is not working well. I don't know is it the normal way of using the old radiators when using the heat pump or what is the biggest issue on top of the lack of insulation? Anyway like also Matt here stated, heat pumps will need more surface area if using radiators and of course underfloor heating works the best as heat difference is the smallest. Basically it seems that in most UK buildings insulating the building better and changing windows to at least ones with three panes would be must before changing to heat pump. If the heating system needs hotter water than 40C to keep the house warm on coldest winter days.. don't bother with heat pump, use the money to insulate the house and update the heat distribution.
@Fox_McCloud
@Fox_McCloud Год назад
Another thing you might want to look into: induction stoves. They cook faster and more consistently, plus they use less energy. They beat out even the holy grail of cooking: gas stovetops. Downside: noisier, requires magnetic cookware, and a bit more expensive up front.
@doncarlin9081
@doncarlin9081 Год назад
They are very popular outside the US. I didn't stay at my temp apartment long enough to get to love it, but I did have some experience with it. I was not overly impressed, I had to shop for specific cookware, with a magnet. I suppose if I had stayed in that apartment long enough, I would have gotten used to it. Instead I bought a ceramic top stove.
@xenx45
@xenx45 Год назад
@@doncarlin9081 I've used one for 15 years and I wouldn't go back to anything else. Easy to clean, surface doesn't get hot. Responsive like a gas stove but much safer.
@Foolish188
@Foolish188 Год назад
Gas stoves are no longer considered the best, they release a lot of toxins into your home. I do like induction for a lot of cooking (precise cooking temperatures makes custards, sauces, and chocolate much simpler, no more fiddling with a thermometer or double boilers), but I would recommend a mix of electric and induction because sometimes you want the pan to be hotter.
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 Год назад
@@Foolish188 "because sometimes you want the pan to be hotter" ??? That makes no sense. I could melt the pan with my silly little 2kW portable unit!
@dingfeldersmurfalot4560
@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 Год назад
A lot of them cycle on and off inefficiently, and have uneven heat distribution.
@jesseledin5361
@jesseledin5361 Год назад
Fantastic video as always! Great information and I totally agree with the move towards net zero energy. One piece that is often forgotten is the embodied carbon component. Based on this channel I have a feeling Matt is conscious of this with his build and it warrants a mention here for others to be mindful of. As an architect we must practice mindfulness around both net zero energy and embodied energy as we make the transition.
@IppiopaidFEEDBACK
@IppiopaidFEEDBACK Год назад
This was extremely informative! A ventless dryer, does wonders for your envelope at around your house. It’s one less intrusion where you have to worry about energy leaving your house.
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Год назад
Alot of peoples homes burn down from dryer vents. Over the years they clog up from lint and people don't remember to clean them out and they will cause a fire when it gets blocked enough.
@Krunch2020
@Krunch2020 Год назад
Yes. Exhaust air has to come from somewhere, usually uncontrolled leakage of outside air. My old house has many things that exhaust air but no makeup air. They include bath fans, gas dryer, gas water heater, fireplace (blocked) and kitchen range hood. I need a heat recovery ventilator! 😂
@Vyhox2000
@Vyhox2000 2 года назад
I've been working on a personal project involving a wall mounted a/c unit, and an exercise bike. Your channel is a huge inspiration for me to decrease my electricity usage.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop 2 года назад
You mean, a pain cave for zwifting? Just go out and ride - the power savings would be unbeatable
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 2 года назад
@@feedbackzaloop Not every place is suitable for riding a bike. In many parts of the US, you're just looking at getting run over by a car if you try it.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop 2 года назад
@@mjc0961 a good reason not to live there in the first place rather than hide in a shed. Still, don't think OP has safety issues in their neighborhood: in places, where you are threatened by traffic and street crime, also impossible to improve other aspects of your life, like having extra room or investing in appliances
@armadillito
@armadillito 2 года назад
@@feedbackzaloop you underestimate the great North American suburban hellscapes.
@Vyhox2000
@Vyhox2000 2 года назад
@@feedbackzaloop what the hell is a pain cave? And what the hell is zwifting? It seems like you just incorrectly assumed what my project is.
@xlotk
@xlotk 2 года назад
Matt, you should research vertical geothermal installations - it´s the currently used method in Scandinavia. Horizontal ones are usually decades old tech - my neighbour has one installed in the 1980s - of course the indoor unit has been renewed and upgraded multiple times, but the pipes are still original. There might be also other innovations to derive in cold Scandinavia.
@ambassadorkees
@ambassadorkees Год назад
Indeed, but I did horizontal, since 2x180m drilliing for 15kW would be much more expensive than utilizing 20% of my 2 (US) acre plot for horizontal piping.
@styletokill
@styletokill Год назад
hey, give the Americans sove time! let the first get used to heat pumps, then we can talk about all the rest. Best regards from a vertical geothermal owner since 1999 in Sweden
@ambassadorkees
@ambassadorkees Год назад
@@styletokill Living at the latitude of Umeå (near Vaasa), geothermal with 700m pipes at about 1m10 depth seems to be just as effective as vertical.
@styletokill
@styletokill Год назад
@@ambassadorkees It is foresure a really good system regardless of vertical or horizontal pipes. Point beeing, it takes the americans a couple of decades to implement it.
@ambassadorkees
@ambassadorkees Год назад
@@styletokill well, the Americans are a few decades behind on multiple issues, no need to be too specific.
@christophergarcia4117
@christophergarcia4117 Год назад
Great video! Love the info and the comparisons.
@metaspherz
@metaspherz Год назад
I use a large and bulky portable heat pump for my shed/music studio. In the summertime, I get inexpensive cooling and in the Fall to early Winter, I get less expensive heating. My problem is that the unit stops producing adequate heat when the temperature drops below 20 degrees F. Even though my unit is indoors, at Zero degrees it's entirely useless. I am encouraged that newer models use heat coils to provide additional heat, so thanks for alerting me! I love your channel! New subscriber!
@ggooda
@ggooda Год назад
I really love your work, Matt! Keep producing content and know you're an inspiration! I have heat pumps on 2 of my properties with solar and batteries and I've almost never paid an electricity bill... I mostly get $150 back from the grid each month in Brisbane, Australia
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 2 года назад
Technology Connections already had me fully convinced that we need to heat pump all the things. Boy was I salty when he revealed how close we already are to having this technology everywhere, because heat pumps are basically air conditions with just a few more parts. I can't believe we haven't been using it all along where possible. And good on Washington State for giving natural gas the boot. Climate Town blew my mind revealing that natural gas is worse than coal due to the leaks in natural gas infrastructure.
@adamdymke8004
@adamdymke8004 2 года назад
Electrify everything!
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 2 года назад
We have been (using them all along) here in Australia & New Zealand. It’s old tech here. (Heat Pumps aren’t air conditioners - Air Conditioners are Heat Pumps, pumping in one direction).
@DavidHalko
@DavidHalko 2 года назад
“Leaks in natural gas infrastructure” Natural gas will always leak out of the ground, so it is better to harvest it & burn it, while allowing a little to leak out, than just allowing it to leak out. Natural gas is far better to use for transportation than liquid fuel. At some point, catalysts will be affordable enough to create electricity without burning. Hydrogen can be cracked from water using renewables & nuclear to be fed into the same natural gas lines. Electricity, traveling over wires, loses energy as the distance increases over from the generators, creating warming. We have the same problem with this widely used technology. The electricity generation & transmission upgrades needed to replace incredibly energy dense fossil fuels & multiple distribution channels that energy takes today (ie pipelines, tanker trucks, trains, etc), is enormous… it is growing with the population increase happening in continents like North America with human migrations putting an even greater strain on existing resources. The big question will be, can we mine enough copper to build out all this new electrical infrastructure, supply coils for motors, and create enough concrete & steel to hang it all up in a reasonable time? I don’t think so, it takes time to move massive populations to new technologies across continents. I am glad the move is happening, but we have to be realistic and continue making less efficient technologies more efficient, as we reach for the Holy Grail.
@Helyzz82
@Helyzz82 2 года назад
Because the cost are much higher, because you need to dig a deep hole. Nice for a single remote home, but for cities, and especially poor people, it is unpayable. A better solution would be to make more power stations, especially nuclear power stations. That is the cleanest energy, cleaner than wind turbines, until we have fusion power.
@doncarlin9081
@doncarlin9081 Год назад
I am living outside the US, and have a heat pump dryer, though here they are called condenser dryers too. It does take longer but, I can just start it late in the night and by morning my clothes are dry and still warm. And I don't need a hole in my wall that lets my cold air out and hot air inside my home. Over all, I am happy with it.
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