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Why I’m Worried About TO1 

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@Bigb00bs_umchileanywaysso
@Bigb00bs_umchileanywaysso 2 года назад
Woonggi was literally a walking breathing advertisement for TO1. He’s one of the most popular member that was loved by EVERYONE. He isn’t even my bias but I was so devastated when he was going under hiatus and when the rumors of him being kicked out was established, I was extremely upset.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
He was my bias 🥺😭😞😔💔❤️
@JimFeig
@JimFeig Год назад
Sigh, is Woonggi still planning to be in the industry or maybe acting. He is very entertaining.
@DaeguYunie
@DaeguYunie Год назад
@@JimFeig - idk if you heard by now but him and Seongmin are now participating in Boys Planet.
@JimFeig
@JimFeig Год назад
@@DaeguYunie Yes I saw, not the best activity if you had a stress related mental health issue.
@imbabey
@imbabey 2 года назад
i really don't understand... both magnolia and no more x were masculine badass concepts and the three members who left did fine. the concept photos for their new comeback look colorful and bright. what the hell do the company means by 'team identity' then? 💀 the identity of a group shouldn't be their concept or music, but the people who make the group😓
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat 2 года назад
That’s exactly what I was thinking?! They suited the concept well from what I could tell
@hrawwr
@hrawwr Год назад
It was a excuse to them to be "homophobic"
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@hrawwr yeah
@laprophetesse428
@laprophetesse428 Год назад
I really hope woonggi Jerome and minsu redebut in an other group ! They are so talented and funny 😭 i don't get it woonggi is one of the most popular members and they fit the last badass concepts just fine bc they have multiple side: they can be badass, they can be cute bc they are pro idols ! To me that doesn't make sense from a business stand point: it bad for the reputation of the group, disappointing for the fans, bad for the stability among the members, they get rid of one of the most popular members.. in my eyes it's just plain hate for ''feminine'' men from the management ;-;
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat Год назад
I fell in love with them while making this video and I just hope that their journey isn’t done
@laprophetesse428
@laprophetesse428 Год назад
@@jihoonscarat me too ! After watching the video my friend and I decided to be their future Stan xD
@tristan_mbb4422
@tristan_mbb4422 Год назад
Jerome hinted at becoming a solo artist
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@tristan_mbb4422 yeah
@aadakettunenn
@aadakettunenn Год назад
Jerome and Woonggi are now on BOYSPLANET !!!
@luisab3079
@luisab3079 Год назад
I feel so sorry for all the members, this all sounds like so much stress.
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat Год назад
It really does. I feel bad for all of them, the new ones, the ones that stayed and the ones that left. This can not be a easy situation to be in
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@jihoonscarat Nah it isn’t especially Jaeyoon since he was a on ASC and has been year since day 1
@moonpalaces
@moonpalaces 2 года назад
I’m also hearing people say that wakeone wanted a more mature concept for them, yet they added a 17 year old member to the group, and the 3 members who just left were in their early 20s it’s just not adding up
@mariadiallo5786
@mariadiallo5786 2 года назад
*17 (Yeojeong was born in January)
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
F’real
@DaeguYunie
@DaeguYunie Год назад
i believe that the particular phrase used doesn't directly mean more mature as in "adult" but more mature as in they've experienced more "growth"
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@DaeguYunie yeah
@arianajohan859
@arianajohan859 Год назад
Fr!! Make it make sense 😭
@kennyqt9098
@kennyqt9098 2 года назад
This isn't even TO1 anymore, this is TO2😭
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
TO1 Season 2
@DaeguYunie
@DaeguYunie Год назад
staaawwwwwwppppppppp 😭
@anamesofheart
@anamesofheart Год назад
LMAOOO
@staydayokay329
@staydayokay329 Год назад
For real for real. This is like one of those series where some of the main characters die in the second season but they still decide to continue the show.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Basically I’d put the group as TOO (2020-2021) TO1 Season 1 (2021-2022) TO1 Season 2 (2022-Present) (because of the current lineup) Their history reminds me of 9Muses, HelloVenus (the companies fighting), etc However I kinda consider them OT13 ❤️ >3
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat 2 года назад
As I was watching content for this video I really fell in love with WoongGi and Jerome.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
@@jihoonscarat yeah I actually had hight hopes for Woongi (I called him my little Woongles lol) during their Peak Because he was just one the cutest little things and seeing how Wake One came and ruined things is just 💔 I hope he, Jerome, and Minsu leave this trashy company soon. It’s absolutely no good at all. And I hope the new members don’t get mistreated but I’m kinda worried Wake One will do something stupid again.
@i_am_marck5581
@i_am_marck5581 2 года назад
If someone doesn’t get TO1, Kep1er and Yuri out of Wake One right now I will go and do it myself
@felicityb93
@felicityb93 2 года назад
32:05 What irritates me about this is that people use the most shallow, bullshit reasons to speculate on idols' sexuality. And then, to add insult to injury, they talk about it on social media where the idols, themselves, (or worse; homophobic trolls) can see it. I am a proud, card carrying member of the LGBT collective, but I would be insulted beyond belief if someone thought so because I liked girl groups and was partial to cute concepts. I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking idols might not be straight (I've always found it amusing that it's ~assuming~ an idol's sexuality when someone says as much but people talk about idols as if they're straight all the time; wouldn't that also count as ~assuming~ their sexuality?!) but if that shit is why, pls do me (and every other LGBT fan) a favor and delete your account.
@thehannahroboto
@thehannahroboto Год назад
you're lgbt but would be offended if someone assumed you're lgbt?
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat Год назад
Like I told someone in a comment, it is no ones business what you are or who you like. Being labelled as something you might not even be or aren’t even sure of is horrible and it’s not our business to be speculating about this stuff, especially on a public platform that is available for ANYONE to see
@alanamileras2329
@alanamileras2329 Год назад
Right, people shouldn't be s3xu8l1zing these idols anyway, gay, straight or anything else, it's not their business and doing so isn't helping anything. Just let them be and if they talk about it, great, if not, it's no one's place to be talking about that anyway.
@monbebe9234
@monbebe9234 Год назад
They really fucked up with letting the four members go. Let's be honest Chihoon: a genius producer, song writer, composer, main rapper. He doesn't lack anything,like even his dance is good enough, he's obviously very handsome. Jerome: they could've hit the jackpot with that boy, very tall with a perfect face, the most handsome member (with j.you) he could be an actor and that would blow TO1s popularity (like ASTRO with Eunwoo), not to talk about his singing & dancing Woonggi: the icon, BEST DANCER, BEST VOCALIST, one of the most famous and loved memebers, another one who can give so much popularity to the grp. Minsu: Voice, visual, dancer, cuteness, he doesn't lack in anything as well. I don't hate the new members,tbh I don't even know them yet, congratulations to them for debuting too ofc. But wake one really ruined it all. I really hope TO1 to he successful after all the changes they've been thro, I really don't want them to disband. And I hope the other 4 memebrs debut soon in another grp
@cheomcheorom9173
@cheomcheorom9173 Год назад
These boys have been on a roller coaster ever since their debut. I feel so bad for them, they had so much potential if only the right people handled them, they could have thrived. They lost all of their rights to all of their older songs, was in between a merger and company conflict. NCH was the only company that actually cared for them.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
Well some of them did get re recorded on the their 1st album as TO1
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
Oh yeah F’real
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
If they still had them Nature probably would’ve had to not go through as much as them
@DaeguYunie
@DaeguYunie Год назад
OH MY GOD I SCREAMED SEEING THIS POP UP It's so weird seeing somebody talk about events that I had to live through as a Together since debut. The term "internal policy changes" still triggers my fight or flight response. The day that everything changed from TOO era to TO1 was so scary; I remember checked their socials before 11am in my timezone and everything seemed fine and then soon boom... I got a bunch of notifications talking about TO1 this and TO1 that it felt so scary and unreal. Some clarifications from my perspective as a long-time Gether: - It's important to note that Woonggi's sudden hiatus was likely suddenly caused by the flood of hateful (and largely homophobic) comments he was receiving at the time. He posted a long thread of photos on Christmas and in one of the photosets he's on some stairs and the second photo was what _really_ set some people off. You'll know what I mean when you see it. The thread is still up btw. - Chihoon's departure was super sudden and the only theory I have was that he mentioned Woonggi once during a vlive while the boys were playing a game and the room got pretty silent. I coulda sworn that I saw Jaeyun looking behind the camera at somebody. After that vlive Chihoon fell totally silent on all socials for an entire month, including Bubble, which he was one of the most active members on. - WakeOne made a birthday post for Woonggi and not one for Chihoon despite their birthdays being only days apart (Woonggi on April 23rd vs Chihoon on April 27th) which was the biggest sign that Chihoon wasn't coming back at that point. - "to1 gay" arose as a sorta argument Gethers are having amongst ourselves, especially due to one Twitter user's comments, specifically something about a "boyfriend material" image or whatever (I didn't read the thread entirely because I skip over stuff like this and just wanna live on peacefully but I'm sure if you search for it it'll come up). Some LGBT+ Gethers argue that gay should not be treated as an insult and something negative to be associated with and while I personally agree with that I also agree that we literally cannot assume anything about anyone's sexualities or gender identities and that is that. TO1 gay and especially the Woonggi gay agenda have been going on for a while now and is something that we just have to live with. (More of a side note here) People took to the new members surprisingly well, actually; most surprising to me is the amount of people already biasing Yeojeong. I personally am not that comfortable with the idea of the new members yet but hopefully with the coming era that changes; I'm not unwilling to love them and learn about them more. But I still really don't get how people can bias him so comfortably when we barely just learnt that his surname is "Jeon" 🫠 Btw when WakeOne says a "more mature" concept i don't think it means mature as in "adult" but just a phrase as to say they've gone through even more "growth" as a group. And finally, most importantly, PLEASE support their comeback on the 28th!!! We've been through so much, the least you can do is check it out 🫶🏾 Thank yaaaaa~~
@wow-bp6vf
@wow-bp6vf Год назад
though i do support ur a really strong follower of to1, how can you say that the new concept really means growth as a group, when they just cut off about a third of it
@angelaisnthere
@angelaisnthere Год назад
where are those pictures of him posted?
@johnsproperty5631
@johnsproperty5631 2 года назад
Stanned TO1 since debut with the name of TOO, felts I could not Stan anymore because my bias was left for unknown reason. I can't believe their journey went through how bad like this. I didn't know why W1 removed the three feminine members were they actually fits the concept TO1. And also I didn't know what happened to Chihoon being left. Yet, I'm still supporting this group until the end
@chuukyun
@chuukyun 2 года назад
as someone who stanned them during rtk and been with them for some time, i just knew one of these days you would cover them esp concerning the history and changeups they had. its really gotten to the point now where i honestly feel so disconnected with the group esp with this latest changup because i really liked minsu and although i still have biases in the group, it just doesnt feel the same to me anymore. maybe i might still be a together but i honestly wont be surprised if i unstan soon. i'll always support all the members including the new ones and keep following them but idk if i have it in me to keep going through stuff like this and keep being a dedicated together
@kaylaa660
@kaylaa660 2 года назад
I also feel disconnected. I’m a newer stan, but I already got attached to the personalities and talents of the old members… How do they expect me to stan these random people that I don’t even know? Especially when it feels as if they replaced the older members and the members were just trash to be thrown away. I want to be excited for the new comeback and like the new members, but I can’t 😕 I don’t know them and Wakeone isn’t even doing anything to introduce them to us, no content no nothing. I feel mad at the fandom too because the new Japanese members are getting 5-6x the likes of the old members. It makes me scared that the old members will be forgotten or something like that.
@chuukyun
@chuukyun 2 года назад
@@kaylaa660 im just glad im not alone in feeling the same! like you said, it just felt like, to wakeone, the members are disposable and can be replaced with new members if they dont fit the image they want for them. and it hurts esp as minsu, jerome, and woonggi have shown even from debut that they can easily fit darker concepts. i want to like the new members, and i do obviously, but i barely know them. i didn't watch produce so i don't even know the japanese members. i don't know their talents or personalities (im sure they are talented but i just wish we had a live with them or a recent cover video to show them off) and tbf the jpn members im sure have their produce fanbase that followed over so that might explain the likes but yeah it makes me worried too. ik we're doing our best to accept this and try to move on, but for me, it's hard to, esp as an older together than went through a good amount of their history
@crelgen1588
@crelgen1588 2 года назад
Is this the group that did the Rising Sun cover on Road to Kingdom?
@jello8654
@jello8654 Год назад
@@crelgen1588 yes :)
@crelgen1588
@crelgen1588 Год назад
@@jello8654 They were really good! I remember people at the time being stunned that they were only rookies! Such a shame these groups with so much potential always get squandered by these incompetent agencies:(
@ondasundae8995
@ondasundae8995 2 года назад
I hope the company didn't kick them out of the group just so they could go with a more "mature" concept and the ones who "left" didn't fit that, when TOO literally debuted with a "mature" and "masculine" ahh concept, It.does.not.make.sense.
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat Год назад
It really doesn’t!
@JaxB562
@JaxB562 Год назад
Magnolia was very mature concept. The company don't know what they're doing
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Count 1! 2! Was probably the best concept they had for a comeback yet because it fit perfectly best for their feminine members especially Woongi!! Such a shame Wake One threw them out 🤦‍♀️ (just to “change their group image”) Wake One really needs to wake up at this point I’m sick and tired of how they’ve treated their artists.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
I can tell u I also thought Chihoon was forced to leave after “mentioning Woongi” during a Vlive. Therefore he was probably forced to leave the company beside the other reason and look unlike the other members leaving he left he didn’t have a written farewell letter!! Shows you how their career has not gone well due to the current Situations.
@anyone1111
@anyone1111 2 года назад
Whoa WTF Woongi left? Then Chihoon too. Omg. I can’t even
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
@@anyone1111 no It was around his “Hiatus”
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
@@anyone1111 did u even watch the video lol. It was announced Chihoon left then Woongi Jerome and Minsu
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Finally!!! I’ve been waiting on this!!! I really feel terrible for them and Kep1er!!
@Emilytrevino740
@Emilytrevino740 2 года назад
they are having a comeback july 28th!! please support the original members as well as the new members!! 🫶🏻
@aprils1888
@aprils1888 2 года назад
Nooo but like actually I was watching Edward Avillas video with TO1 to make sure I was thinking of the correct members and the first thing that truck me while looking at the members that left... all of them were the more feminine/cute members. They will have a hard time getting fans... now that Woongi is gone. Like I'm not even a boy group stan and I still adored him
@anyone1111
@anyone1111 2 года назад
Bro right. Woongi was my bias and now I’m like… why would they do that to those members. Wtf.
@Aki-hb1jy
@Aki-hb1jy Год назад
I literally just watched some of those videos too and Woongi was literally the one who stood out the most as the one with the most sass and personality. I don’t get why he was removed…
@louise3630
@louise3630 Год назад
33:20 I agree 100%, like I looked their ytb channel and they didn't even upload smt since 3 months ??? Like the new members didn't get to show their rap and singing, they didn't even have an introduction video, I feel like the agency choose them just to choose new members without paying much attention
@sunmimoonbyul154
@sunmimoonbyul154 Год назад
Jaeyun is my ult ult bias and Jerome and Minsu were my bias wreckers so I was so torn on whether I should keep supporting them but I decided that I would be open minded. I love Jaeyun and the other members TOO much to leave them. It’s hard to support them when I don’t want to support such a horrible company 😭
@beomgyulightbrownhairissup9547
Im glad you made video about them but i'm just unable to watch it, im still in such pain after woonggi, jerome and minsu departue, especialy woonggi, he means world to me, i got into so many nugu ggs thanks to him and i just cant even think of to1 but i'm still happy you made vid abt them they deserve it
@Aubreeyh
@Aubreeyh 2 года назад
This group has gone through the ringer I feel so bad for them but I’m always going to support them
@el7mes
@el7mes Год назад
Idk why but I think wakeshit is gonna try sending the 3 members that left to boys planets or maybe the 3 members that they just add to to1. Im pretty sure they would send anyone to that program. As a kep1ian I feel so sorry for to1, that shitty company doesn’t deserve the artists they have.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
Yeah and I’m sick of how Kep1er has gotten treated also. That’s why I’m happy they’re temporary so they don’t have to suffer in that company forever.
@linwithluv
@linwithluv Год назад
now that u put it in the room i can feel woonggi, jerome and minsu joining boys planet.. idk what else they would plan with them rn, just pulling them out of to1 for a new group, .. it just doesnt make sense to me but wakeone sending them to a survival show? seems like smth they would do
@katherine6107
@katherine6107 Год назад
You really predicted the future 💀 please support Woongi on boys planet y'all!
@seeunthusiast
@seeunthusiast Год назад
I feel really bad for all the members. I hope Jaeyun isnt doubting himself as a leader because he isnt lacking in any way, its just WakeOne being stupid. Jerome’s departure in particular shocked me the most because he was always the member who seemed to be the most enthusiastic about the group. The team identity thing is BS. The three of them fit perfectly with the group.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
I have to say the companies fighting over them reminds me of the Pledis and Fantagio incident with HelloVenus 🤦‍♀️
@HectorH-M
@HectorH-M Год назад
UPDATE: Woongi and Jerome are participants in upcoming survival show Boys Planet 999, alongside other Wakeone trainees
@PinBall0
@PinBall0 2 года назад
I feel extremely bad for them they're still TO1 but with the new members it feels like a 3rd debut for them I don't stand TO1 and the fandom doesn't seem like the type to harass people (I hope not) so I hope the new members don't get hate for something they had no say or control over. I hope after this comeback things start to become a lot more stable for them because at this rate I don't know how much TO1 can take before the company says screw it and disbands them.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
What I think is funny they’ve had more K Con performances than comebacks
@suyeesia7770
@suyeesia7770 Год назад
Yes
@leonor8835
@leonor8835 Год назад
when i discovered TOO through rtk they immediately captured my heart, i was so amazed by all their talent and personalities, each member was so unique and could easily be an ace if they were in seperates groups,, they had so much potencial and i was looking foward to their future so much i don't know if with all these changes TO1 will feel the same to me, it's sad to say but i had such a big attachment to all the 10 members that this just doesn't feel like TOO/TO1 anymore i'll support the best i can the rest of the members but yeah i just feel so heartbroken with everything, they had everything to succeed if it wasn't for that company
@stannature1984
@stannature1984 2 года назад
Yesss thank you for covering! I was following them since debut, because I’m a leaf (nature stan) haha But dang just hearing you recap their history showed how they were always in turmoil. I hope that the members(old and new and former) could get a fair shot at fame. 💚
@sophial3151
@sophial3151 Год назад
When they announced new members I was shocked because Daigo and Renta were 2 faves from produce 101 Japan season 2 and I was expecting them to debut in Jpop groups not a Kpop group that was already established. Plus the very controversial way of them going into TO1 after 4 members leaving that kinda feels like a black cloud was put over them because it’s too soon. I don’t know what the future will be like for this group but I just can’t feel optimistic about it right now. I want them ALL to succeed, this whole mess hurts my heart.
@songkangsbabyface
@songkangsbabyface 2 года назад
Yesss I’m glad someone finally made a video about this, it has been stressing me out. Thank you !! 💜
@anyone1111
@anyone1111 2 года назад
OMG SEEING a video on a group I LOVE is not a great feeling at all. I mean all these groups truly going through it. Then seeing a group I definitely listen to a lot. Dang. Thank you as always for updating us. I’m sure it may be a lot mentally to have to go through all this research and such. And also the amount of work. Thank you so much! We all really appreciate it and you💖
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Yeo Jung is also the new Maknae as he’s an 05 liner. Funny how they threw in a new member Younger than Woongi who was born in 2002.
@dinonara.fanboi
@dinonara.fanboi 2 года назад
woonggi was born 2002 , but i agree with your point … :”
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
@@dinonara.fanboi oh yeah whoops 😅 now I remember him being an 02 liner thanks for reminding me ☺️
@dinonara.fanboi
@dinonara.fanboi 2 года назад
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore ohh it’s okay , no problem : )
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
@@dinonara.fanboi 😊👍❤️
@user-z810
@user-z810 Год назад
the comeback was fine and i liked the album, but i feel like i cant really 'stan' this group anymore and would probably consider myself a casual fan now. they've been ot10 for almost 3 years since world klass, and now suddenly the group dynamics are are different, and even though this is their most commercially successful comeback, it still feels kinda lackluster? other than the 4 members leaving, something feels empty and different.
@priscilasuarez3444
@priscilasuarez3444 Год назад
i met this group yesterday and i did not even imagine all the shit and mistreatment and shit that they went through. now i just want to stay by their side and save them from their company, no joking. thank you so much for all the info, it is really helpful. i hope things became more stable now. sorry if i made a mistake, english its not my first language and sometimes i mess up.
@morphogenetic_
@morphogenetic_ Год назад
Oh it's very odd for a very freshly debuted group to go on RTK indeed! It happened again this year with Kep1er on Queendom, but at least Kep1er had a tiny bit more time in the industry than TOO (and since both programs were from MNET it makes more sense too)
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 11 месяцев назад
Happy 1 year to this vid 🥺❤️ unfortunately it’s only a matter of time TO1 will disband it could be any day now but I have a feeling it’ll be sometime this year. I’m glad the former members were finally able to leave WakeOne though.
@brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr199
@brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr199 6 месяцев назад
they did
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 6 месяцев назад
@@brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr199 yep I knew it’d come
@brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr199
@brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr199 6 месяцев назад
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore wakeone straight up trash on them for 3 years🙂 fuck wakeone
@elisec9885
@elisec9885 Год назад
thank you so so much for covering this. as a long time fan of the group i’m glad this is finally getting attention
@reveluvharu0506
@reveluvharu0506 2 года назад
Come on everyone!! Let’s break TO1 out of Wake One!!!
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Yes and Kep1er!!!
@iseokmins
@iseokmins 2 года назад
and burn wakeone down !!!
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
And also Jo Yuri!!!!
@precious8129
@precious8129 2 года назад
I've wanted to stan TO1 for so long,but every time they do something that makes me wanna stan them it is followed by bad news. I will support them in this comeback,but I genuinely don't want them in that company. It's the same thing for Kep1er. I know that they are better than in a nugu company, but at the same time it's pretty obvious shitty things are happening behind curtains.
@DaeguYunie
@DaeguYunie Год назад
true, true. i hope that you can still enjoy their music, though! i'm open to welcoming in any new gethers and clearing any confusion if you have any
@louise3630
@louise3630 Год назад
3:37 the reason TOO went to rtk is because they were collaboring with mnet, their survival aired on mnet so yeah, that's pretty much the same for kep1er and queendom
@majrahabibija9742
@majrahabibija9742 Год назад
I got into the CJ E&M rabbit hole on Wikipedia, and they are MASSIVE. When you said "one of the biggest entertainment companies in Korea, I wasn't expecting they are "we own Mnet and TVN" big, or that they own production companies that make some of the most popular dramas ever. They are quite literally EVERYWHERE.
@elmin82
@elmin82 2 года назад
they really remind me Seventeen, it's sad because this group really have potential
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Yeah and it hurts seeing them being mistreated and going through so much
@boohangyu_sunshine
@boohangyu_sunshine Год назад
Genuinely asking, but how do they remind you of Seventeen? Is it because they are a large group?
@mirarose2591
@mirarose2591 Год назад
I love to see you improve with every video. 💜 Keep up the good work & thank you for all of your efforts.
@precious8129
@precious8129 2 года назад
Out of topic but did you see the news about the next post Good Day groups ? I love the determination of these girls. Especially my girl Jiwon who is already in her 3rd stage name.Preparing myself to pour out all the money on Cignature,IRRIS and ALDL .
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat Год назад
I did ! I might need to make an update video because so much has happened
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@jihoonscarat yeah
@kiyaninoel
@kiyaninoel Год назад
take a shot every time jihoon says "Hello, this is WAKEONE"
@DaeguYunie
@DaeguYunie Год назад
literally every gethers worst nightmare
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@DaeguYunie or anyone who stans a kpop group **cough**
@johnnygil5409
@johnnygil5409 Год назад
TO1 was already great. The line up was already great and perfect. T.T
@cherrylipsoflove5471
@cherrylipsoflove5471 Год назад
What makes me so upset is then they were formed under a survival show. People voted for each individual member, so what right do they have adding people WHO ARENT EVEN FROM THE SAME SHOW? This just destroys the purpose of survival shows in the first place. Even if you take out members, it's not necessary to add new ones. Something else I noticed too is that they tended to make the songs they cover more masculine (the i cant stop me cover is a great example). It makes me wonder how masculine theyre trying to make this group look. Taking out one of your most popular members? Yeah, great way to make money.
@tristan_mbb4422
@tristan_mbb4422 Год назад
Since their last cb re:alize all we’ve been given is the update about the four members leaving the group. Then f*ck all leading up their next cb. It literally came out of NOWHERE and we were not informed about the three new members joining the group beforehand. I REALLY WANT THE ORIGINAL TO LEAVE THE COMPANY AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE ALTOGETHER THAT WILL TREAT THEM SO MUCH BETTER!
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
2/3 members were from Produce 101 Japan
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
Yes me too or they should just disband the group all together
@amnedits4898
@amnedits4898 Год назад
With Chihoon, Woongi, Minsu and Jerome all gone, To1 won’t be the same. Hope the new lineup do well but it’s very unfortunate that all this happened…
@johnnygil5409
@johnnygil5409 Год назад
As a Minsu stan, I am sad that he left the group. Idk what really is happening behind the camera but they just went to Kcon a few months ago and after a month they released a statement that Minsu, Woonggi and Jerome will leave the group.
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
They kicked out their feminine members just because they “don’t fit the image they want for the group”
@renjuncat
@renjuncat Год назад
i started stanning TOO(TO1 now)2 months after their first comeback running toogether. from the very beginning i clicked with the whole group, the b sides were amazing and had a variety of talent where everyone brought something to the table. i loved how they were doing something along the lines of a “cute/fresh” concept for count 1,2 which really caught my eye because you don’t see a lot of boy groups do anymore. a lot of boy groups debuting have the same tired “boy crush” concepts that we’ve seen over and over again and when everyone is doing the same thing it really loses its effect. i believe to1 fitted a cute concept and a fresh and an in between concept as well. it’s so hard to believe that wake one didn’t see how the sales dropped as soon as they went back to a boring over used concept. moving on to the departure of chihoon, woongi, jerome, and minsu was so off putting, especially for “toowice”. in my eyes woongi was the face of the group. even people from my tl who weren’t gethers knew who he was because he was always going viral for being a mood maker. he was constantly bringing exposure and peaking interests of others. i believe “toowice” were forcibly removed because they didn’t fit the stereotypical “mature” concept. now, with all of chan’s cultural appropriation scandals it’s only brought negative light to to1. so if to1 were doomed they’re in even worse spot now. as much i loved to1 as whole before the 3 new members it just will never be the same for me, it just seems like such a generic kpop group now. as for now, i will patiently wait for minsu’s re-debut as he is my bias, but i still wish to1 the best even though i won’t be tuning in anymore.
@alanamileras2329
@alanamileras2329 Год назад
You did a really great job on this, as usual, very thorough and great research. I hate that this might be needed, but I wonder if you might consider a future video on Thai kpop soloist Natty? 3 days ago, without any explanation, it was quietly announced she signed to S2 Entertainment, though she was signed to SWING Entertainment for 2 years but hadn't had any activities since November 2020 and her 2nd single "Teddy Bear" (many of us thought the break had to do with C()V!D though). She had announced her fandom name and said on her RU-vid channel that she was going to be doing a lot more social media but that was basically her last video and we have heard nothing from anywhere her for over 18 months :/ She was on SIXTEEN (the show that made TWICE) and beat Momo but JYP decided she was too young (she was 14? at the time) and on Idol School (and likely got rigged out, as she was ranked #1 for several weeks and then suddenly stopped getting screen time and her ranking plummeted). We're very confused and worried :/
@lisasellers2839
@lisasellers2839 9 месяцев назад
They just lost one of their new members. Renta left on Sept.22,2023. His departure was unusual as well. I don't believe that I have ever seen such constant member chaos in a group before. Management needs to get it together and either handle this group properly or dissolve all contracts and let them go. They are sitting on a gold mine of talent and are letting them rot for inactivity. Sad.
@anamesofheart
@anamesofheart Год назад
first of all, I literally command u for making a 30 minute video with all the editing and the voiceovers and even the eng sub
@robinreid4869
@robinreid4869 2 года назад
i was waitng for this! tyy
@ivyvine496
@ivyvine496 Год назад
I have an interesting perspective on the matter! I've never really known too much of TO1 but I do follow the Japan side of things in the industry and I was (worried admittedly) but excited to see Renta and Daigo pop up after disappearing to Korea after PD101 JapanS2. They're both sweethearts and hardworking and I look forward to getting into TO1 or at least checking them out now. It sounds weird, but I think it'll be good exposure for the group into the Japanese market and it'll bring more attention and fans to TO1 in wake of all the changes that have occurred. While I can't bring back old members, I offer a sliver of optimism in that the change might be a "blank canvas, fresh paint" kind of thing and myself as a new fan to get to know these talented guys and their antics! Stay strong for the members still left, and try to welcome the new guys with warm hearts-- it won't fix things but it might make the bandaid prettier while the wound heals. TO1, fighting!
@jihoonvx9195
@jihoonvx9195 2 года назад
They have so much potential I’m just hope that they don’t disband after this comeback because most groups from small companies disband because they didn’t become popular ☹️
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Yes me too but I actually want them to disband and/or rebrand and stuff so they can get of this mess!! I mean look at what the group has gone through all these years!! They shouldn’t be in this company anymore!
@jihoonvx9195
@jihoonvx9195 2 года назад
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore true I just wish that they will move to another company like fromis_9 did
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
@@jihoonvx9195 me too
@lumaelodie
@lumaelodie Год назад
omg i cant believe i watched that i cant stop me cover that they did and they were actually going through this the entire time i didnt even know
@oliveb.
@oliveb. Год назад
CJE&M literally own everything thing in korea! They even sell their food products in Walmart where I live in the US
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Год назад
Most boy bands (whether Korean or not) aren’t seen as masculine to the GP in general, so it’s interesting that they’re out here removing the most feminine members when that’s not really a problem for their target fanbase. Seems like a combo of a vocal minority + all the usual issues that arise when a company is trying to engineer success vs. having it happen organically
@vampztogetherp1eceforx341
@vampztogetherp1eceforx341 Год назад
This is what i personally feel: I feel like they just broke my happiness into pieces😢, there is only so much a person can take😭😭
@myfantasyisnct
@myfantasyisnct Год назад
In other words, even doe Too or To1 were under three different companies they still didn't or couldn't get the proper management they needed for their careers
@gisellelopez3045
@gisellelopez3045 Год назад
I don't think they kicked out those three members because of their looks or personality but because they may have disagreed with the new changes. For example, Woongi was a very extroverted spokesman and maybe the other members were too. The group already had a hard time trying to made it to the final lineup later on losing its original name and rights then going into hiatus and now having to "change" concept once again?
@nakamotorskrskrvroom8038
@nakamotorskrskrvroom8038 Год назад
Omg what ?? I've been so away from kpop, they're one of the groups that to me produces some of the best songs ever, like you have to listen to their albums I love them so much I used to watch all their contents from debut and I didn't know all these were happening
@osnapitzbritxx
@osnapitzbritxx Год назад
NOOOO I LOVED CHI HOONS VOICE
@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926
some1 in Wake1 is a homophobe fr for kicking out TOOwice like that
@angiemonteago
@angiemonteago 2 года назад
yay a new video!!
@suyeonation
@suyeonation 2 года назад
First, so excited to watch the vid luv u
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat 2 года назад
Thank you for watching! I hope you enjoy
@flipppbook
@flipppbook Год назад
Woonggi and Jerome are on Boys Planet right now! Please support them!
@marriyaar
@marriyaar Год назад
nah but i was so sad when i heard and found out that they were leaving the group, they fit the concept perfectly well, dont deserve any hate and shouldnt have felt forced to leave the group etc theyve been thru sm shit together as a group since a debut and it makes me sad to see them go but as a toogether i'll still support T01!!!
@pineapple1612
@pineapple1612 Год назад
Such a great video... The group had a pretty rocky road so far... I hope things get petter for them and that Chihoon, Woonggi, Jerome and Minsu will become successful without TO1. I had the same feeling about the three leaving the group as what you mentioned. They are more feminine... but in TO1s performances, they still always nailed the concepts... even if those were more masculine and tough! I am sad that the three are no longer part of TO1. But may I ask, what is wrong about the assumption that they are probably gay? I am really curious because I don't understand why this is rude. I mean... being gay is nothing bad... being gay or whatever sexual/romatic orientation you have, isn't something bad or something that needs to be hidden! Again thank you for this great video.
@bo_jelin
@bo_jelin 2 года назад
woonggi i will avenge you
@winniejung
@winniejung 2 года назад
finally a video !!!
@jihoonscarat
@jihoonscarat 2 года назад
Hope you enjoy it 😮‍💨
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Ah yes I’ve had Sweet Chili 🌶 ramen 🍜 from CJ foods lol and it’s crazy and unbelievable how many companies they one
@iknowwatermelonGyu
@iknowwatermelonGyu Год назад
I fell in love with them as soon as they debuted as TOO, Chihoon was my bias and him leaving made me lose interest in the group honestly, I still follow their content and progress but learning about Jerome, Woonggi and Minsu's leaving it just made it so hard :( I don't hate the new members but i'm really upset about it, I don't like how they are just replacing the others
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
Yeah I mean it’s stupid they replaced their feminine members just to make the group more “masculine or adult” or something like-
@iknowwatermelonGyu
@iknowwatermelonGyu Год назад
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore siognesigs I didn't even think of it that way- they lost gems >:(
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@iknowwatermelonGyu yeah but I hope the 3 we lost can leave the company like Chihoon and as well as the other guys
@iknowwatermelonGyu
@iknowwatermelonGyu Год назад
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore I hope too :(( I miss TOO snif they deserved better
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@iknowwatermelonGyu yeah and TO1 season 1
@wow-bp6vf
@wow-bp6vf Год назад
no hate but jerome and woonggi literally were a few of the main reasons why to1 was getting a lot of attention
@anamesofheart
@anamesofheart Год назад
second I literally found out about them a day ago from watching edward show and now watching this idek if im interested💀 like no shade those three were carrying. but i wish the best for all of them including the new members 💙
@squirrellix
@squirrellix Год назад
I got to see them as WK at la kcon. Honestly I'm kinda sad it got to this point as they are my ults. A lot of things happened to them
@ymmmmmmm7383
@ymmmmmmm7383 Год назад
i hope they r all okay mentally 😕
@emimae8919
@emimae8919 2 года назад
so much bull originates from cj enm it's unreal
@everyxheart
@everyxheart Год назад
makes me wonder about all the groups who might not be signed with a label under CJENM, but have a distribution deal through stone entertainment.
@cogimyuun
@cogimyuun Год назад
i never followed them paticularly closely and i only have like one mutual who does but from what i've seen woonggi was definitely a moneymaker. from a business standpoint at least it seems ridiculous to kick him out because if you have nugu bg mutuals you've definitely heard of woonggi! as much as daigo and renta can help bring them into the japanese market, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of togethers start feeling disconnected from to1 as a whole and drop off them. obviously i wish the best for all of them but removing three of the most popular members is never ideal.
@kazeltrava2504
@kazeltrava2504 Год назад
Actually I'm a fan of TOO i am really sad about their group.. i hope they are all okay after what happenef
@meowmeowmeowmix
@meowmeowmeowmix Год назад
love ur vids! u should do a video about onlyoneof !
@stevenwright6533
@stevenwright6533 Год назад
28:15 IOI wasn't under Studio Blu when they were active (2016-2017), they were under YMC Entertainment which wasn't related to CJ&EM, Studio Blu was gonna manage IOI's 2019 comeback reunion but that was cancelled thanks to the Produce Vote rigging scandal so the members probably never got far enough like to sign with them. Wanna One during their first year was also managed by YMC before transferring to Swing.
@lily-wg9zv
@lily-wg9zv Год назад
The one about the 3 "femenine" members seems a strong reason also because woongi was being cyberbullied for it and he was put in a hiatus once
@henrybanchieri8305
@henrybanchieri8305 2 года назад
I hope you’re also worried about the girl group Favorite, because I am. It’s been nearly 3 years since their last comeback and I wouldn’t want them breaking up immediately
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
Actually it’s been 2 years (March 2020) but Lie didn’t get much attention compared to Loca
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 2 года назад
I actually feel like they silently disbanded because of Covid
@henrybanchieri8305
@henrybanchieri8305 Год назад
If you look at Favorite‘s KPop wiki page I think they’re still together but not in the spotlight as much lately
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
@@henrybanchieri8305 yeah they (the company) probably can’t afford to give them a comeback due to financial issues they might’ve had because of Covid or they just don’t want to say anything
@henrybanchieri8305
@henrybanchieri8305 Год назад
And mind you, Wikipedia also says they’re still together and their most recent song was “Lie” in 2020
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore 9 месяцев назад
It was just announced Japanese member Renta will be leaving the group and bruh only a year in the group. W1 really needs to disband them at this point. The group is ruined at this point.
@AuntieDongil
@AuntieDongil Год назад
I’ve been a Jerome bias since day 1 and just found out about the new lineup and our ICONIC trio leaving. Honestly I hope that those three debut together but I know the Jerome hinted at becoming a solo artist which I think would be really good for him. At this point though it’s not even TO1 this is TO2 now 😭😭😭😭
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Год назад
TO1 Season 2
@mybiasjisoodekumyheart2742
@mybiasjisoodekumyheart2742 2 года назад
SAME I'M WORRIED TOO 😟
@jay-rq7fe
@jay-rq7fe Год назад
i just want the guys to leave cj and make a proper statement towards why did woonggi, sungmin and minsu left, bc i dont believe the "more mature image" thing. sungmin was one of the main visuals and brought attention, woonggi did so too bc of his amazing personality and most of the fandom felt connected towards minsu's shyness. plus, the group in general felt like they had a geniune and pure friendship and connection between the 10 (9 at the time) of them. i understand chihoon leaving bc he never even wanted to be a full on idol, and i love the music he's been uploading lately on souncloud (as ian). my ult bias is kyungho and I'm glad he didn't leave, but i just don't feel happy at all even with the cb they'll be having this week. i just hope they're doing well, it must be horrible going through all of that in just 2 years
@safhie
@safhie Год назад
minsu seemed kind of low energy for the past couple months, not sure about jerome though. woonggi might have been suffering from the hate comments and after someone tried to accuse him of bullying. someone else said that mnet might be sending them to boys planet
@autumn1276
@autumn1276 Год назад
TO1 had me following them after I heard their cover Someday by OneRepublic and since then I have loved their music and personalities and right not they are getting hit left and right with setbacks and I hope they aren’t to stressed because this is a lot. One thing I really hate is it seems stone entertainment has everything to treat the idols they had/have well and take them far and it just seems they are choosing not to like they really should have let the other company help with the boys because stone is failing them. And yes some of the boys were feminine however they did well when they had a masculine concept so if they were kicked for that reason that’s another failure on stone.
@jauneyonfleur
@jauneyonfleur Год назад
i can't believe they got rid of half of the members. to1 was incredibly perfect together, their chemistry was unmatched, and they were all comfortable with each other. with enough promotion the og lineup would've blown up soon enough. i hate wakeone.
@amiiiiiiii
@amiiiiiiii Год назад
I'm hearing from other people "to boost them" REPLACING THEM WITH PEOPLE IN THEIR PLACE IS NOT GONNA BOOST THEM AT ALL
@itsnatemate7697
@itsnatemate7697 Год назад
This is what I will never understand…and that’s how homophobes and/or people with toxic masculinity are SO obsessed with other peoples sexual preference and mannerisms. As a gay guy myself, I don’t focus on members like those three and their sexuality. I just love and focus on how they’re very expressive and talented. It’s like being feminine in society has been so demonized when there are literal straight men out there that are comfortable in their sexuality, that are very feminine and aren’t afraid to express themselves… it doesn’t matter what they are! Their femininity and joyful selves are what make them and the group shine!
@kenprado7878
@kenprado7878 Год назад
the second boy group I stanned after Seventeen 🥲💚
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