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Why I Bought the RetroTink4K 

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You may have heard of the RetroTink4K. Specifically regarding the outrageous price. For most, such a high entree fee would most certainly not be worth it. However I found extremely beneficial use with the Tink4K that makes it worth every penny. The CRT filters. With old CRT displays getting more challenging to find, and modern retro releases not including good CRT filters in most cases, the Tink4K becomes a CRT replacement by being able to inject frighteningly effective CRT visuals to any console up to 1080p. The Tink4K then essentially becomes a perfect substitute for consumer CRTs, to PVMs, HDCRTs, native 720p/1080p tvs, and high end CRT PC monitors. With that in consideration then the price of the Tink4K becomes a lot more justifiable to me and that's not even talking about everything else this scaler can do.
As an aside, I tried to prevent as much CRT filter compression artifacts by rendering this video at 4K, a first for me. It should go without saying that such CRT filters will absolutely not look as good in this video as it does in person. So please only take my video capture as an approximation of what the filters could look like. Watching in fullscreen is the best way to reduce compression artifacts. Only in person with your own eyeballs do the filters really shine.
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@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
I’d like to apologize as I could have elaborated in the video. CRT filters don’t look anywhere near as good in direct capture as they do in person. The nature of a CRT filter makes the picture unfriendly to direct capture. Even with basic scanlines you’re going to get artifacts if the window doesn’t match the capture footage. You can see with the CRT filters you’ll get artifacts in any view that’s not fullscreen. Maybe even a rainbow effect which would also be the cause of the weird colors some have scene. As well as possibly the HDR capture converted in SDR. The direct capture is only ever going to be an approximation of what the filters actually look like in person. I know that doesn’t help sell the value of the Tink4K much but I stress that these filters look extremely good in person and the colors look completely normal. I should have mentioned more clearly that even if the CRT filter doesn’t look too good in person you can tweak and adjust so many settings until it looks good to you. Or experiment with the countless amounts of profiles. Hope that cleared some things up!
@andriizahorui8332
@andriizahorui8332 Месяц назад
Have a question about crt filters on 5x. Since youtube compression won't allow to see them in high quality, how good they are in person in terms of mimicking an actual crt TV? Maybe you have raw video that you can share with a link or something? :) RT 4k may be out of budget as import taxes would make it cost way over 1k$ for me so considering 5x as a cheaper alternative. A big fan of authentic look too so don't want to be disappointed if I order one. Thank you! PS: if it matters, will be playing NES and SNES mainly
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@andriizahorui8332The 5X filters look very exceptional if you can use the option 1440p mode. Otherwise playing games at 1080p (Over) would be your best bet as that’s at least 1200p of resolution. From normal playing distance the filters are quite convincing. I think some of my older videos may have some off camera footage but I’m not sure. If budget is a concern then I’d suggest simple PC emulation. Like play through Retroarch and some of the CRT filters you can use with that as that’s the next best alternative imo
@PabloB888
@PabloB888 Месяц назад
​​@@andriizahorui8332 I still have my old SD CRT, but I get an even better picture on my modern TV thanks to CRT shaders, because I can recreate PVM phosphor masks that look much better than slot masks on my CRT. I have never seen 480i/480p PS2 games look this good, because SD CRT blurs the image way too much. You can google "sony megatron color video monitor" to see comparisons between real CRT's and the best CRT shaders. It's impossible to tell which is real CRT and which recreated. I no longer feel the need to own a CRT, that's how good CRT shaders can look. But remember that there's a big difference between SDR and HDR CRT shaders. SDR CRT shaders must use bloom, change colors and gamma to some degree to compensate for the loss of brightness because phosphor mask dims everything. Only 4K HDR TVs allow you to have a mask with 100% opacity and this will give you an extremely faithful CRT look.
@DontCallMeScooterrr
@DontCallMeScooterrr Месяц назад
Since I got my RT4k a few months ago, I don't think I've touched a console made after 2006. Yeah $750 is steep and a total luxury, but the 77" OLED I'm playing on with 5.4.2 sound wasn't exactly cheap either, might as well make the most of it. I'm one of those psychos with 4 CRTs already, but this was my DREAM SETUP in like 1989 (unimaginable, really). I am still CRT for life because I love light gun games but I have no regrets about the Tink4k.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
Heck yeah brother. I understand for most $750 just ain't worth it which is fine! But I see it as, well sure it's that expensive but I can pass any console with composite/s-video/scart/hdmi through it from 240p to 1080p and slap convincing CRT filters on any game I please. Even with a PVM I feel you're limited on what you can connect to it. At least my OLED is 65in which is hella nice.
@Polarbearden
@Polarbearden 8 дней назад
I don’t think it is luxury when you are comparing to modern gaming prices, mico transactions, and DLCs
@AFreakinProblem
@AFreakinProblem Месяц назад
Bought one of these, dialed it in on an LG C3, and the picture actually beats that of my old Trintrons. Worth every penny.
@leatherhidegaming
@leatherhidegaming 3 дня назад
I still have CRTs in use and I love them but man the small imperfections like geometry can drive me a little nuts.
@JoinTheVoidOfEnuo
@JoinTheVoidOfEnuo Месяц назад
One of my favorite uses for the RT4K is when using my PS3's Blu-ray player function. I enjoy watching modern "vintage style" movies through it while applying a CRT mask, pre-scaling, and horizontal blur to make it feel like I'm watching a VHS. 📼😎
@PositionOffsetGaming
@PositionOffsetGaming 28 дней назад
This is exactly the reason I've been considering getting a RetroTink 4K. Being able to put CRT filters on any content lower than 1080p, including video not just games. Excellent video 👏
@vRyanXOXO
@vRyanXOXO Месяц назад
This is literally my exact use case, can't wait to have the money to get mine
@Dermii3D
@Dermii3D Месяц назад
8:29 Your problem is probably the Tone-Mapping setting of your TV.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
Could be. I tried messing with it and it didn't seem to help brightness. I have an LG C2 and I believe I have the necessary settings to achieve maximum brightness. Admittedly I'm not too practiced in messing with TV video settings. Cranking the nits on the Tink itself was the only practical solution I could find. I do experience video sync drops for brief moments but that goes away after a bit and doesn't happen all the time. It works, and gets me brightness very comparable to a real CRT, but if that doesn't seem right then I'm open to other possible solutions. It very well could be another thing that's contributing to the weird colors in my direct capture that everyone's noticed.
@seth5362
@seth5362 Месяц назад
I respect it but also the cost is just too high for me on this device.
@H6rdc0re
@H6rdc0re Месяц назад
Look into the Morph 4k, it's a lot cheaper and with a couple of firmware updates will probably be within 95% of the Retrotink 4k.
@portalfreak7628
@portalfreak7628 Месяц назад
Amazing stuff as always. Out of curiosity tho, why is there a pink hue over the RetroTink footage?
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@portalfreak7628 Compresion artifacts. CRT filters don’t play well with direct capture as compression can mess with the colors. Best you can do is watch in full screen. The filters give off a rainbow effect if the screen size doesn’t match the playback resolution which may mess with the colors. Only way to truly see how the filters look is by seeing them in person unfortunately. I wish I could show them more accurately but It’s almost impossible for me.
@kendric_BUF
@kendric_BUF Месяц назад
@@Mr.Welbig i wondered if uploading the vid in youtube's HDR mode could have mitigated this🤔. i know its a thing cause Digital Foundry has release HDR vids and just put the disclaimer at the beginning of their vid
@remylegato
@remylegato Месяц назад
​@@Mr.WelbigInterestingly enough, I saw someone in the Retrotink discord that was talking about how the Mono Masks still looked good when streaming through a Retrotink. Using that instead of the RGB Masks may fix the magenta hue
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@remylegato Hmmmmm. I'll have to give it a try. I'll admit with all the profiles the Tink has I kinda immediately settled on like, 2 mask types and called it good as they looked great enough to my eye.
@SlyQueguy
@SlyQueguy Месяц назад
Great video! I never thought i needed a retrotink but this video has convinced me otherwise
@boiledcabbage5139
@boiledcabbage5139 Месяц назад
I think with how hit and miss video scalers have been, the space and money I’d need to secure and place a high quality crt, and the amount of retro consoles I play regularly, I think while $750 is a little crazy, I would definitely be getting what I’m paying for with this. Good review.
@kylercramer3800
@kylercramer3800 Месяц назад
CRT's aren't really expensive if you're looking locally and in person. You'll eventually encounter one with enough patience and it shouldn't take you back more than $50 for something nice
@NattiNekoMaid
@NattiNekoMaid Месяц назад
I grew up with one of those HD crts, and my dad still uses it haha
@epicness877
@epicness877 Месяц назад
While I have and prefer my CRTs, this device is necessary for long term preservation via emulation. Very well spoken and encompassing coverage on your part
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah Месяц назад
The price certainly is steep, but I also have a legit CRT (had it for 10ish years after getting it from a thrift store. Not specifically for retro gaming, but because I had no other TV at the time, or any recent console). Also, for me, it's not so much the look moreso the input lag. I don't mind messing with CRT filters, though. Granted I play on whatever TV I feel like.
@chronicnugget5595
@chronicnugget5595 8 дней назад
I really think Mike screwed up not making the device hdmi 2.1, I know I know it'd be more expensive. But is 750 vs 1000 dollars that big of a difference for someone who can afford to blow 750 on something like this? Especially given that it borderline requires a TV at least as expensive and honestly retro consoles and games aren't far from that price either.... BFI is so variable TV to TV it's really only worth using on a handful of TVs, mainly the previous gens of LG C series OLEDs. Making the device 2.1 capable means they could've just handled the BFI in box and we would've had the perfect no compromises scaler that can do basically flawless crt picture AND motion clarity. The whole reason we got scalers is because manufacturers can't be trusted to do it properly themselves, why we turn around and rely on them for good BFI is just puzzling to me.
@jasonludwick3504
@jasonludwick3504 10 дней назад
I couldn't resist I impulse bought the RT 4K. I can't wait to fire up some dreamcast
@TacticalSnapBack
@TacticalSnapBack Месяц назад
I think this is a great alternative since someday the surviving CRTs will die. With the technicians who fix them lack the tools or stopped performing such repairs since lack of viability they aren't coming back. I even read that TV manufacturers don't even have the ability to make them anymore even if they wanted to. Apparently they threw out all their tools and blueprints lol. They would need to reverse engineer the technology to create more. With such a niche market thw price of a new CRT would be upwards of thousands of dollars. So with that in mind the retrotink in a bargain. People don't remember that TVs before LCD were a small fortune. Having a large TV back then was a big deal. Thousands of dollars. 90's dollars were more valuable too.
@RemoWilliams1227
@RemoWilliams1227 Месяц назад
About 4 years ago I got a kv36fs300 for free (well the ordeal of getting it lol) but anyway the guy I got it from told me it was the first TV he bought for himself after moving out on his own, and it was almost 2k after tax when he got it. Good day for me that day lol. And I have several others, but eventually I'll get a scaler for the inevitable time when they're all dead.
@TacticalSnapBack
@TacticalSnapBack Месяц назад
@@RemoWilliams1227 36?! I didn't even know they made them that big. That's huge as hell. I use a 27 inch which I think is plenty big. I only use it for retro gaming. The games I use it for are only 240p so bigger TVs don't do it much benefit in my case. Same resolution at a bigger size doesn't make it look any better.
@slarbiter
@slarbiter Месяц назад
The only thing stopping companies from making them today is supplies and shipping. I believe it's possible to re-invent the same tech for today's market/standards. My wish: original LOW resolution modern CRT, frosted glass screen, same tech redesigned into a flatter screen maybe 6" thick instead of 2 feet thick. I KNOW people would buy if it was an option right now. I have a hard time believing we can't make flatter/lighter CRT tech nowadays
@parski
@parski Месяц назад
I love Mike Chi and have no doubt the RT4K is best in class. I'll be on board when sample-and-hold motion clarity can get on par with a CRT. Until then I'm praying for my tubes.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
Mike said it might have to wait until 8K to completely recreate every visual function of a CRT. It also might take 240hz with BFI to even match what 60fps looks like on a CRT. By all means authentic CRTs still can't be touched, but I personally can't recommend spending the cost on admittedly aging hardware unless you're fully on board with it.
@parski
@parski Месяц назад
⁠​⁠@@Mr.Welbig I've heard numbers way higher than 240 Hz, closer to 1000 Hz (IIRC Digital Foundry). I've tried BFI on my 240 Hz display with software emulation and while it looks really good (and really dark due to three black frames per drawn) it's still a different league than a CRT. But there is no doubt in my mind that we will get there though and the RT4K looks amazing already. We're like 90% there which is more than good enough to switch in my opinion.
@ewoutverheij4745
@ewoutverheij4745 Месяц назад
@@Mr.Welbig I would think that given how popular CRT's are getting as a ''retro'' thing to have, more manufactures would pop-up to make honest to god CRT's, sure they'll be expensive but I would be stoked to see new CRT's being made.
@McCheesy22
@McCheesy22 Месяц назад
@@ewoutverheij4745I’ve hoped for the same thing, but I think what’s preventing that is that the equipment for making CRTs just doesn’t exist anymore (not to mention the talent with specified engineering knowledge of CRTs are likely all retired or elsewhere)
@notsyzagts7967
@notsyzagts7967 Месяц назад
@@ewoutverheij4745 It's not an easy thing to have manufacturers "pop-up". As others have said, the people and equipment to produce them are largely gone. It would take a lot of startup capital and investors to produce modern CRTs into a viable and realistic business venture. It's easy to say "Why don't we have manufacturers for this retro stuff" if people love it? As you guys find out, the answer isn't so simple. It costs an equivalent amount, if not more to reproduce or update older tech. It's not dissimilar to manufacturing an old-fashioned home or classic cars in the modern age. In other words, don't count on that anytime soon.
@Eddyoshi
@Eddyoshi Месяц назад
Another great video as always! Not sure if its just for me, but for some reason whenever you show the Tink's scanline footage you captured, it all has this heavy pink tint to it all. Just when its the scanlines, all other footage is fine.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
It's just the nature of the capturing filters unfortunately. If you mess with the video size in a window you might see this rainbow effect that may be the cause of it. The best way to mitigate it is by watching in fullscreen. I captured in 4K to avoid compression artifacts but even that's not good enough. The filters and colors look totally normal and fine in person. I wish I could show what the filters truly look like in person but that's almost impossible.
@jabarbors
@jabarbors Месяц назад
Interested in the next video, I use retro arch because I stopped keeping track of what the best PC emulators are, would be interesting to learn how to get the best CRT filters on PC
@kamarrawlings6285
@kamarrawlings6285 26 дней назад
Is the M-classic compatible with the retrotink 4k and is it worth combining the two? Also is hdr gaming for retro games worth it or does sdr look better? Only thing I’m missing is a Oled I noticed that when I see a video about the retrotink 4k it’s shown on an Oled display 😫 I have a led display I’m missing out lol
@dvsaleios
@dvsaleios 21 день назад
Can it work with the tink? Yes. But what I suggest personally is throwing that piece of garbage out a window. HDR is to get the brightness back from applying scanlines and masks. If you aren't using those features, then don't apply HDR. It's NOT HDR rendering. It does not magically remaster games to HDR assets. You don't need an OLED to make it look good. It certainly helps though.
@kamarrawlings6285
@kamarrawlings6285 21 день назад
@@dvsaleios lol
@TeaBeeAdventures
@TeaBeeAdventures 24 дня назад
I'm guessing it's the way your capture card tone maps HDR but I found all of your 4k captures in this video extremely washed out as far as the colors go. Not just washed out but also oddly wrong colors. Watching 27 inch 1080p monitor.
@yusofplayed
@yusofplayed Месяц назад
Greaaaaatttt vid, I'm debating between this and a really good pvm.... but then again why not both 😅
@LiftMasterDC-6
@LiftMasterDC-6 Месяц назад
Why do the colors on the retro tink crt filter look wrong, but the real crt has normal colors?
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
If I had to guess it would be the HDR video being converted into SDR for capture. In person the colors looked perfectly normal. It also could be RU-vid compression messing with the overall picture. It's unfortunately near impossible to accurately capture filters like this. It's only an approximation of what it'll look like, but it needs to be seen in person to really see what these filters look like.
@LiftMasterDC-6
@LiftMasterDC-6 Месяц назад
Thank you, it was really confusing me.
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah Месяц назад
@@LiftMasterDC-6 I can concur, I've had experience recording HDR content, and then uploading it to see the colors mess up on YT.
@voltz15
@voltz15 Месяц назад
Different tv's, different filters. Even I tried making some a few years ago and it's actually fun what you can come up with.
@reygamingchannel1505
@reygamingchannel1505 Месяц назад
At that price range might as well buy a gaming pc and play at 4k 170hz OLED monitor 170fps with mods and .... Great video and I get the point but I love playing pc games on a CRT so Im a true CRT 4 life🎉
@MrMoroPlays
@MrMoroPlays Месяц назад
You are absolutely correct about everything you said, but I'm saving this to show people why they shouldn't use crt effects through direct capture on streaming media. Sorry not sorry but it's free engagement, right? 😂😩😬
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
Oh go for it as I think it’s important for people to see that you can’t even trust a basic video of good crt filters. They have to be seen in person. Just like how real CRTs have to be scene in person.
@PrincessNine
@PrincessNine Месяц назад
Okay but WTH is up with the color in this video for all the filtered games???
@MrMoroPlays
@MrMoroPlays Месяц назад
RU-vid compression does not play well with direct capture of crt effects
@OrangeGeemer
@OrangeGeemer Месяц назад
I had the OSSC but ended up tweaking to no end the settings for scanlines and not playing the games. I have 2 CRTs but they tend to give a headache after an hour (and the geometry problems are getting more noticeable with the years). I order the RT4K a few weeks ago, can´t wait to get it and mess around with the scanlines features (hopefully I´ll ply the games this time lol).
@someoneelse1534
@someoneelse1534 Месяц назад
finally caved and bought one of the cheep AV converters the other day. The video signal is so messy, but it beats playing games on my shitty LCD, so it's still an upgrade for me.
@dinoshi64
@dinoshi64 Месяц назад
I know the pink hue footage is not intentional, but it kinda looks cool tbh
@ItchyTastyPlays
@ItchyTastyPlays Месяц назад
I would love the 4K for the VGA alone but being in the land of Canada it would be well over $1000 for it. I do love my 5x though but I do want to get the Retrotink RGB2COMP adapter so I can play light gun games through SCART.
@SuperSunshine321
@SuperSunshine321 Месяц назад
You've probably read the comments already regarding the colors, so I'm most likely just beating a dead horse, but there has to be some way to convert HDR to SDR decently? I've never worked with HDR footage (and my screen is also SDR) so maybe it's not that simple, but for future reviews I think I'd be good to try to find a way to improve the footage. It's a great video review held back a bit by not adequately showing one of the devices main selling points. Maybe you're just ahead of the curve, and we scrubs just need to get HDR screens. Either way, apart from the aforementioned, great review!
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
I have worked with HDR footage before but for me in my case atm it results in too high a file size for me, and it's incredibly laggy to work with in editing so I opt out. I am planning on getting a new PC hopefully hear soon so I may be able to circumvent that, hopefully. At most all I need is for the footage to be is a rough approximation of what I see in person. The best way to see that in this case is to watch in fullscreen. But I assure the colors and brightness look very natural in person.
@H6rdc0re
@H6rdc0re Месяц назад
Even with my Morph 4k and LG CX OLED BFI king combo (only rolling scan consumer OLED) I'm still playing retro games on my CRT's. My PVM's massacre it and even my consumer sets beat it pretty easy. No input lag, real scanlines, real aperture grille/shadow mask, perfect motion clarity and support for real light guns/3d glasses.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
Don't get me wrong I still believe nothing can beat the real thing. But god damn if the Tink4k is such a good substitute that I'd be perfectly happy with it, and to show others what the CRT experience could really be like.
@javierbarron8605
@javierbarron8605 Месяц назад
“P.S. I’m going to shit on retroarch” DONT HOLD BACK!!
@LumbyMcGumby
@LumbyMcGumby Месяц назад
The amount of time I spent tweaking retroarch on a crt you could just buy this and skip all of it. Plus shaders add input lag which feels like it defeated the point of the crt anyway. But you still need to use some shaders when using emulators on a crt
@BoxedWater123
@BoxedWater123 Месяц назад
I may have missed it, but you didn't seem to mention that emulators like Retroarch have had great shaders for a long time now.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@BoxedWater123 I’m aware. I plan on going further into it in my next video. What I love about the Tink is the versatility of it. I feel I can plug any game system to it to slap crt filters to any game I own. Whereas I can’t play every game through Retroarch (to my understanding)
@BoxedWater123
@BoxedWater123 Месяц назад
@@Mr.Welbig Retroarch emulates most of the retro consoles and doesn't cost $700. Although its true it doesn't play every game, you could use the shaders made for Retroarch on a program like reshade. I just feel like its important to mention it considering its one of the pillars of the CRT shader community.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@BoxedWater123 Sure. But I still ultimately don't like using Retroarch and I'd rather not instal/use reshade in every game. All this is exclusive to PC as well where many games aren't going to be available on.
@BoxedWater123
@BoxedWater123 Месяц назад
@@Mr.Welbig Fair enough, just feel like it was important to mention
@mr.jacksonscales2462
@mr.jacksonscales2462 Месяц назад
Just found your channel.
@mathieulh
@mathieulh Месяц назад
Your color profile is off, everything that uses a CRT filter in your video has a red hue.
@StillTheVoid
@StillTheVoid Месяц назад
why do the colors look muted regarding your gameplay on the retrotink 4k? 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂
@niamhrz
@niamhrz Месяц назад
Odd question but do you think a mini led with lots of dimming zones would also be fine with the tink? this is my fave tink4k video btw since you're the first that isn't absolutely destroying the image with emulation look-tier 'crisp' rgb..
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
I hear good things about mini LED. Unfortunately I can't speak much as I've never used one. If it can get bright as shit with a bunch of filters slapped on and with BFI engaged then I think it'd work pretty great. Even standard LCD is fine with "fake" HDR and if you don't mind not having BFI.
@niamhrz
@niamhrz Месяц назад
@@Mr.Welbig was more so curious about scanlines effectiveness! i worry theyd ve like grey yaknow but i guess thats fine, yah alot of mini led have bfi as options so i might look there cus im terrified of burn in.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@niamhrz Oh for sure I getcha. As long as the tv is 4K then it'll look great. If it helps I don't take any precautions with my OLED. There's already a auto dimming feature in case i'm AFK. I've had it for over a year now and there's no visible burn in whatsoever. But I understand the concern and will concede mini LED could be even better.
@niamhrz
@niamhrz Месяц назад
@@Mr.Welbig dopeeee yah i saw that about oled but i see the burnin on my phone and im like yikesies cus its not supposed to be there too, ahahaha. i fall asleep lots so thats why i guess.
@SeveredLegs
@SeveredLegs Месяц назад
This stuff is impressive, but having to switch profiles for every console I have plugged into the same tv takes away from the experience. I'd rather just have one setting that works pretty well for all consoles....or just keep my CRT's.
@MC-bh8ph
@MC-bh8ph Месяц назад
Do we think devices like this will become cheaper over time?
@alecrisser12
@alecrisser12 Месяц назад
I don't know if it's the screen I'm watching this on or what, but almost all of these filters look really dark purple.
@BahumutTH
@BahumutTH Месяц назад
Question is though will this work with light gun games, if not then I'm still keeping a crt
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@BahumutTH Unfortunately no. Light guns are very tricky to adapt to LCDs. There is the Sindin light gun which works but I’m unfamiliar with the setup. There’s also EmuVR which has light gun support via playing in a vr space with virtual CRTs I think a method similar to what Nintendo did with Duck Hunt on Wii U could work well but that’d require a sensor bar and IR controllers
@anthonyaviles8665
@anthonyaviles8665 8 дней назад
Why are most of you capture in a reddish tint
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig 7 дней назад
I believe merely compression artifacts from the direct capture. An unfortunate side effect of trying to show CRT filters. The best solution is to watch in fullscreen at 4k. If you play with the window size you might see a rainbow effect from the simulated CRT filter which I think is causing the color tint that many people have commented on.
@ErixsonGaming
@ErixsonGaming Месяц назад
I have both CRTs, and my Retrotink 4K that is shipping to me soon.
@dwightdixon8508
@dwightdixon8508 Месяц назад
RetroTink 4K is great but still no simple way of playing light gun games on LCD
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@dwightdixon8508 Alas those types of games are probably gonna be the last to get fully preserved. I’m aware of the Sindin light gun that works on lcds and EmuVR has light gun support via playing in VR on a virtual CRT. I think a method similar to how what Nintendo did with Duck Hunt on Wii U could work but that would require a sensor bar and IR controllers.
@salazarcosplay
@salazarcosplay Месяц назад
Why did you pick it over the morph 4k?
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
I've heard sketchy things regarding the Morph. Not to dis on it or show bias but from how it performs (I read it has overheating issues) and the features it seemingly lacks like Triple Buffer, analog input, and added input lag, I ultimately thought the purchase would have been unwise. As expensive as the Tink is, I feel I've gotten my moneys worth with how it's been for me.
@AdamRahman-b8y
@AdamRahman-b8y Месяц назад
​​​@@Mr.WelbigThe heating issues were overstated and happened on unstable firmware. I have owned mine for a month and have had zero issues or noticed any input lag. There is triple buffering. The analog bridge module is arriving at the end of this year and adds another $100, so the total cost would be $375. But right now im happy with $275 i spent since my devices have HDMI.
@TheatreStyle
@TheatreStyle Месяц назад
As nice as those CRT filters are there's no way I would use them on an OLED screen. Give it a few years and ALL of your content is going to come with a baked in scaline effect.
@alessandrosurdo2870
@alessandrosurdo2870 Месяц назад
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@Nitroxity
@Nitroxity Месяц назад
>I'm going to shit on RetroArch Oh you have no idea how hyped I am
@someoneelse1534
@someoneelse1534 Месяц назад
can't wait for the RetroArch hate!!
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 Месяц назад
You what? Don't you dare.
@daveishereuk
@daveishereuk Месяц назад
The colours look completely washed out and nowhere nearer close to what a crt looks like? What's going on there? If that's the best it can look for $700 I think I'll pass. Looks awful.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
If I had to guess it would be the HDR video being converted into SDR for capture. In person the colors looked perfectly normal. It also could be RU-vid compression messing with the overall picture. It's unfortunately near impossible to accurately capture filters like this. It's only an approximation of what it'll look like, but it needs to be seen in person to really see what these filters look like.
@daveishereuk
@daveishereuk Месяц назад
​@@Mr.Welbig have you watched the video back via RU-vid to clarify as it truly looks awful. Castlevania, Mario and Metroid all have a yellow tinge to them.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig Месяц назад
@@daveishereuk I have. I know what you mean. Filters just don't play well in direct capture. Watching in full screen might be the best way to mitigate it. I would capture off screen like I do with the real CRTs but I'd rather not most of the video be captured that way and I don't exactly have decent camera equipment.
@Pixel_Bits
@Pixel_Bits Месяц назад
looks horrible, especially the contrast of the colors. just play on retroarch with the duimon mega bezel graphics shaders and you're good to go
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah Месяц назад
The look of it is not the fault of the machine, it's the weirdness dealing with converting HDR footage to SDR.
@Autistic_Sebas
@Autistic_Sebas Месяц назад
give me yo 5x
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