I've owned Glocks and Sigs for 35 years. I've never had an issue with either brand. I've found both to be equally reliable. I currently carry a Sig P365 X-Macro and haven't had a single issue you're complaining about.
I have 2 P365’s. Your the only one I know who doesn’t like em. They are easy to shoot, to clean, they are accurate, great capacity, eats everything, concealable. I’ve put a thousand rounds through each. I use em for church security, sweat, no rust issues. I couldn’t disagree more.
@brianbolton8199 It says New Hampshire on the Grip Module. However the internals are Made In India. MIM is metal injection molding. India has a huge facility where they make SIG SAUER MIM parts. Sigs are low quality garbage.
@brianbolton8199 Go ahead, and google SIG Made In India. Theres tons of forums where they discuss this in detail, and provide proof. SIG SAUER parts come in packaging that says "Made In India".
I have several P365. I have 2 I interchange for daily carry. Both are original short frames with curved triggers. One is a ported SAS, the other has an XL slide. They each have over 5k rounds through them. They use the same magazines because I just pick up a different gun with the same go pack. They go in the same holster. I don't like the flat trigger. The XL frame is fine, but it's more difficult to conceal. Im not sure what your experience is different from mine, but mine make carrying dramatically easier than the smallest Glock
I'm glad to see you use the words "I" and "My" in your title. You've had some bad experiences with your Sig P365s and therefore have decided not to carry them. I have been shooting for 50 years. I've owned Colt, Ruger, Glock, Springfield Armory, Beretta, HK, Kimber, Browning and other handguns that had something either go wrong or just irritate me. If I were to go on a pontifical rant on every manufacturer that produced a lemon, I would have to resort to carrying a sword. With the knowledge that no manufacturer can create a perfect gun, my Sig P365s have functioned with zero issues with any of them. None of them rusted, although my Colt, Beretta, and Kimber did. So, you don't trust your P365; I'm happy that you have something else to carry every day. I'll keep carrying mine. Every day. Why? Because after so many rounds, I trust it.
Exactly! It’s all about preference and what works for us and what doesn’t. I currently am testing my new sig p365 and really hoping it continues to run the way it has and then I may even carry it. Added new grip module so it fits my hands better, just want to make sure it runs flawlessly before carrying it. I appreciate the comment and view. Respect
I recently got a 365 in 380 because I wanted a micro compact that I could shoot better than the 9mm version. I've shot the 9mms before and done okay, but nothing special. Despite doing my fair share of handgun shooting, I have never really considered myself the greatest shot with anything other than a full size pistol. But the 365 in 380 is the first compact firearm to truly inspire confidence in my aim, especially after adding the XL grip module and a Hogue grip sleeve. I've never fired as quickly or as accurately with a smaller handgun before. Many people will probably sneer at the thought of using a 380 that large as a primary EDC, but it works for me so I don't care. I did consider other similar options like the Glock 42 and S&W EZ, but I wasn't impressed by their lack of capacity. Going with a .380 as a primary CCW is already a huge compromise, so compromising on capacity as well didn't make much sense to me. Anyways, the only other option that came up in my research was the Ruger Security 380. It definitely fit the capacity requirements, but felt like a cheap, chunky brick in my hand compared to the SIG. No, a 365 may not be for everyone, and that's completely okay! Mine hasn't had any reliability issues as of yet, but it is a little concerning to hear about the rust issue with yours. I'll definitely have to keep an eye on it. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the info on the 380 version. As an older mechanic with hands that sometimes suffer my all my years beating them up due to work, the 380 might be better for me. I regret selling the great Sig P320 in all stainless that I had over 25 years ago. That thing might have only held 8 total, but it carried flat due to single stack mag. A bit heavy but that made it absorb any recoil from the small gun. But not a gun you would shoot more that 50 rds any given time. I just hate to spend on the expensive and somewhat hard to get .380 rounds. Its out there but as you cost, can cost 50-100% more than 9mm. Have no idea why since it is smaller in length and materials.
Trust is about emotions, and emotions are very personal. So the fact that you don't trust Sigs is entirely unhelpful to me. You had some malfunctions in one Sig, big deal. I had 2 Glocks malfunctioning bad in the past. Does this mean I'll never carry a Glock again? You heard about other people's rust issues with Sigs, as everyone by now did. I had a Walther, a H&K rust on me, and recently saw a rust blanket on a friend's Shield Plus. So what? Does this mean I'll never carry a Walther or a Shield Plus? Come on. I totally respect your nervousness about Sig, I just don't know what to do with it. Those are your feelings. I'll stick to your factual content, which I happen to enjoy a lot. This happens not to be one of your factual videos.
@@melina_superiority I get it. But you do expect to garner some insights, even from a subjective view. This one is so subjective, boiling down to fluff. "I had a couple hiccups in one of several guns of the same make" - who doesn't? "I heard about rust issues" - who hasn't? It's like saying "I'd like to blue camo cerakote all my guns". Good for you, but what do I make out of it? He ha many useful videos, I subbed because I like his content. It's that when you see the title you expect some deeper insights.
@@sevse23While he didn’t do a very good job of explaining why he doesn’t prefer it, there are a lot of valid points that Sig is no longer a premium manufacturer. I just bought the X macro with the comp. The mags it came with look like some of the cheapest mags I’ve seen. The coating on them isn’t very good. Compared to my old 320 mags. People have complained of rust recently more than other companies. There’s also a lot of weird issues them that you don’t see with other guns. Like it not firing, but will fire when held upside down. Or won’t fire, but will if you shake it a little. It’s like a German car (over engineered). My motto is to base it on testing the gun you have and not as a whole. As long as my new 365 is reliable, I will trust it. I’m not going to base my opinion based on other people’s guns, because that’s not the gun I own. What this guy should’ve said is the plastic Sigs seem to have more problems than others. So he has more trust with better track records.
Been carrying the 365xl for 3 years now. Added the Wilson combat grip mod a year ago. I have never had a problem with it at all. I will admit the fcu is a puzzle box. No rust issues as of now.
The only problem I've had with my p365 has been light primer strikes with Winchester white box 124 grain all bought at the same time a couple years back other than that not a single issue with any other ammo brands. It is my EDC and I trust my life with it.
As a long time fan I remember when you were having those issues with your seer in your p365. That would be super frustrating for anyone. As an admitted sig fan boy I do have to say that I feel as though sig gets a bad rap. The p320 issues were unexcusable but I do feel like the p365xl is the best concealed carry option for a multitude of reasons and as a huge spokesperson for cc I feel like you should through it through an extensive torture test and see if your assumptions about sig are true. Admittedly only because I can't afford to and I am very curious about the trigger issues specifically lol. Anyway much love and God bless.
How are you, my brother? Have you shot the Hellcat for a while and then gone to shoot the P365 X ? When I do that, I can really tell the difference, and I shoot the P365 better with the Wilson Combat XL grip. I love the Hellcat; it seems like a little tank and has been so reliable for me. Even the screws for the optic are better, in my opinion, on the Hellcat. But when it comes to shooting, I shoot the Sig better or the Glock. I also love my Glock 26 just because of how I shoot and its versatility
I’m good, how are you! And yes there is a difference. The hellcat is a snappier firearm compared to other micro 9’s. I just don’t trust my p365’s after what happened and also stories from people I know/met. But I shoot my 26 better than both of them but I shoot my hellcat/p365/ and 43x all the same
@@spnfirearms "I'm good, my brother. Thank you,, Yeah, I shoot my Glock 26 better. I love it; it's just a little chubby, but what a great gun. I have a Gen 4. You should try the Wilson Combat XL grip to see if you like it. It feels like a different gun. Mine has been really reliable, but I also don't have that many rounds through it. Maybe around 600, compared to my Hellcat or the Hellcat Pro with over 3k rounds, never a single malfunction. My G26? I've lost count, lol. I do carry the Hellcat also just because I trust that one more, but for me, the 26 is hard to beat. I also shoot the P365 X better than all my other micros, but it's also because of the upgrades it has. Another awesome thing about the G26 is that you can always take it to states that have magazine restrictions, and it's legal in almost every state. That's something else to consider that's in favor of the G26."
I have a 365 9mm with thumb safety. I haven’t yet had any issues. Only beef is that mags are really hard to load to capacity when new. Other than that, it works fine. I noted that they have. A lot of packing gunk on them when new that really ought to be cleaned off. I was a Glock guy since 1987. They work and are very durable and simple. I hate the shape of the factory trigger shoe however. Few options when you kind of need to keep the carry gun stock. In 30 plus years of Glock shooting and carrying, I’ve seen slides and internals rust. Rare but it will happen when they’re neglected. Still shot, but they’ll rust.
I have carried the same Glock 26 Gen 3 for over 9 years. No rust, shoots flawlessly, I clean and lube a couple times a year. It's the TOYOTA LAND CRUISER of the Firearm world. May not be pretty but the reliability is!
Thank you, my step dad bought me a sig p320 m18 I dropped it and it sent a bullet and almost killed my neighbor, yes blame on me for dropping it but what the heck lol, next my step dad bought me a sig p320x and the mags are almost as much as full cart of groceries and take like 2 weeks to set in nice and they suck at loading, I hate it. Any suggestions? I am not getting a sig ever again
I shoot my Glock 19 gen 3 very well but I want a P365 for CCW Glock 26 seems like a good option but tbh I don’t want another Glock I want different brands and only want to buy high end brands from now on like sig, hk, and fn
Ive owned the original p365 for 4 or 5 years now. Carried it concealed 75% of that time. No rust and has been through several thousand rounds and i honestly can't remember it ever giving me an issue. Btw i live in Florida so its seen its share of sweat too. Been great for me but by all means enjoy you chonky glocks fan bois!✌️
So I have a 365XL and have carried it for about 2 years and have had zero rust issues, I also clean it the least out of all of my guns. I cannot say the same thing about my SW. I have 3, all three of them have rust on them sadly. I do clean and oil my guns after range days.
I and the P365 had irreconcilable differences so we separated. If it works for you, use it. My choice should have no bearing on yours. I don't really get the rust issue. My well under $200 LCP has spent 2,000+ days in my hip pocket and not a spot of rust.
@@spnfirearms are you implying that because of the rust it's not worth the price tag? the capacity? ease of carry? lmao. my g26 rust and the trigger is shit and it makes a clicking sound, does that make it not worth my $545 too? don't get me wrong I love my p365 and my g26.
Random question, I just got a GoPro to better my channel but man I don't get the resolution vs fps settings lol do you use a GoPro too? If so, what settings do you have??
I have carried a p365 xl all day every day for 2 years now. Ruat is a problem but i just cerakoted it and keep the mags doused in corrosion X. I just dont like glocks or smiths or a bunch of others. I just shoot it so good and its so reliable that its worth it
I have a P10C and love it, but it's standard double stack width. I have a Hellcat RDP that's very reliable too, but didn't really like the Glock ish trigger.
I just purchased a P365 here in California. I'm waiting for my "ten days." Your point about the simplicity of the Glock is something I strongly considered. My G19 always goes bang even though I feed it only my reloads with range brass from who knows where. I wanted a G48 but California says No! I'll find out soon enough if the Sig holds up.
I’m also in California and I also have Glock 19 I’m considering getting p365 because I want a micro 9 I don’t want a g26 because it’s double stack and I can’t buy the 43x or 48 like you mentioned
G26 gen5 mos carry daily. I have the Icarus for my P365 XMACRO or Tacops. Just haven't decided which I'll upgrade. Never rust issues with my G26 gen4 that I've been carrying for many years noe. The G26 MOS gen5 just started carrying but I still have to install my Holosun SCS green dot. Never shot with a dot yet! They say with my eye sight I'll never go back to irons. I'll let you know how it goes! Thanks for your video. P365 is a big deal... God Bless! Happy New Year!
My P365 is a .380, and I'm just starting to carry it, transitioning from a TCP that has been flawless despite its low price and iffy reputation. I'll probably still deep conceal the TCP no matter what main arm I'm carrying. I have four Glocks, all three "traditional" sizes, and a pair of Daggers (so far just fine), but none of them are as easy to conceal as the P365. Haven't found a really good holster solution yet. My P365 currently wears a Holosun EPS Carry and TLR-7 Sub, and that's proving to be troublesome. Not the gun, not the light, not the sight. The size of the gun and the light together. I'm 5'11' and 165 lbs, so I find concealment of anything bigger than my hand to be problematic in warm weather. That's why I've carried the TCP or my S&W 642 for so long. I'm trying out a Crossbreed holster, which works very well for the gun/light/'sight combo, but it's difficult getting used to a non-leather holster. As the weather gets cooler in a couple of months, I think this will get easier.
Have had my sexy TCP for many years, have heard numerous reports of reliable ones. Unfortunate mine isn't. But it IS perfect in it's dimensions. I intend to work with it to improve the internal flaws. And I may pick up an extra one here or there to compare. Congrats on yours! I have an XL which I've really enjoyed ( beside returning it for a dead front night site ), just got a tacops grip ordered to convert. Ultimately it's my home defense piece. Love the feel of the 365's & the flat triggers -- hope Glock presents a good flat trigger someday. Plan to get a .380 P365 for carry soon -- reliable, concealable and very shootable. Thanks for your post!
still struggling over here between edc a xmacro or a glock 26. my 26 has been vetted for a long time, but this xmacro is still causing me doubts for edc !
I still carry my sig but yes I do agree. My first carry gun was an M&P shield 9mm I oiled it once a month and it never rusted. My brand new sig p365 x macro the mags had surface rust after only 24 hours of carry. Sig really needs to add a better finish to their guns and mags.
Yes! And light primer strikes with all ammo, even defensive ammo. It was also sent back from mossberg with the same issues I sent it back with. I do plan on getting another because it was one of my favorite firearms
I have the 365xl. I prefer a longer grip so i swaped to a xmacro frame. Kept the original frame because i still shoot it well so i put the original frame back on when im going somewhere formal. Works perfect with my slim fit attire. Plus it makes me feel like 007 so thats a plus.
My sig 365 NRA version quickly became one of my favorite pistols so stoped using it for conceal carry, I was afraid if I needed to use I’d never see it again. I have many other options.
Dude come on. You totally put out a slam piece on Sig, not fair representation. I love your channel and how you don’t go with the hip trends, but I don’t think this is fair at all. Not carrying something because of preferences is totally understandable and cool, but I don’t believe this is fair. And I carried a G43x (not biased).
I talked about the malfunction I had at 400 rounds. I have videos up on it. My p365 completely locked back. It was taken to a gun smith and fixed with new sear springs that were out of spec. I couldn’t even get the slide off. It would have completely of failed me if I needed it.
@@spnfirearms you shit on sig, then the p320 on top of the p365 which have predominately been reliable. I do believe Mr Guns n Gear started his channel when he had a Glock 19 gen 3 that just had countless major issues. Something to keep in mind, especially when issues are not common. Like I said, just didn’t think it was fair IMHO.
Spn i need help, I have a kahr cw9, glock 44, Taurus 38spl, I want to stage a gun in the bathroom. Which one should I choose? And what would be the best way to stage it? Thanks brother
So, I don't know about the new P365's, but my old slide was made about a year after the P365 launch. Never rusted no matter how much I sweat all over it. The magazine however, did get a little rust under the plastic base plate, but that was easily remedied. As for the performance of the pistols. The original gun had a little over 1000rds through it (started shooting a lot more this past year since I graduated), and the second FCU and slide is around 1700rds, hard to tell since I let a bunch of other people shoot it when they ask (results in people wanting to copy the setup). The finish on the Shalotek slide is a really tough black nitride, and the only rust I have seen is a little from the dawson precision sights (they warn about that). I have another 150rds of Fiocchi left, and then I will probably pick up another 1000 from my job, it's either going to be Gecko or New Republic (Both made in Sirok, and super similar labels). Being that I work at a gun club, I have shot quite a number of guns. My P365 is one of the best performing carry guns for its size, weight, and price. The only guns that I shoot better, are my managers Nighthawk, and his EDCX9...which are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive. I would say the G48 within 100rds was a pretty decent shooter, but the lack of texture was annoying, and the gun shit the bed repeatedly on us for the first 200rds (unlike my P365's). Long story short...shoot whatever works best for you, but the P365 has earned its spot and is a best seller for a reason. It's not related to the P320, and it's one of the few firearms from Sig that I am willing to buy.
I give the 365 a pass on rust because I pretty much rust every gun I sweat on. Glocks and shields included. For such a small gun I just shoot extremely well..
People need to understand it's about what works for them. For some people the Kahr PM40 might be the right choice. For others ths S&W .380 EZ might make more sense. It's not a one size fits all world.
I have a OG p365. Shelved it because I did not trust it. It was a striker and trigger return spring breaking baby. Had some issues with slide barrel hood contact.. I fought with Sig until they went through it. FK sig customer service. Replaced a lot of parts including the barrel. Still carried my G43 43x and 48. Took them out one day. Shot the Sig better. Noticeably better. Since picked up a p365xl and Spector comp slide. I know they have rust issues but I have not had rust. I pull it out of the holster after a day of carry and have sweat on it. Just wipe it down daily.
You can purchase ANY part INSIDE the FCU WITHOUT a background check. I mail ordered a complete set of spare parts for my P365 FCU and slide. It's only the serialized FCU frame for which you need to pass a background check in order to purchase. I can disassemble and reassemble the P365 FCU blindfolded. The most difficult item to remove and replace is the extractor coiled spring pin. With the proper size punch and starter punch it's easy. There is NO difference between the curved and straight trigger EXCEPT for the shape! The FCUs and internal parts are identical. The required trigger pull force is identical at the tip of the trigger. The curved trigger (which I prefer) keeps your finger pulling at the middle of the trigger. If you have a fat finger you will still pull at the middle of the straight trigger and the pull force will be the same as the curved trigger. If you have a thin finger you can pull the trigger closer to the tip of the straight trigger and you will have more leverage and the required pull force will be less. But the break will be identical with either the straight or curved trigger. If you are truly worried about reliability for carry, buy two P365s. One for carry with a very low round count and the 2nd for target practice that you can beat to crap. Everyone needs to have at least two pistols so they have a backup if one pistol develops problems.
I was planning on getting this in .380. Couldn't find a range with a rental in that caliber so i tried 9mm today. I'm not sure if it was that specific rental but i felt like I shot it better than my XDM 9 compact or even my M9A4, I just couldn't believe it. That's why i think the idea that full size guns are easier to shoot is not always true for everyone. I have smaller hands and always had a bit of an issue shooting full sized 1911s, constantly having to re-grip the pistol. So unless you have huge hands, this is a sweet shooter in 9mm. I'll probably get it in 380 also.
Can confirm, I traded in my P365 X-Macro Comp because of rust issues. My rust started on the optic cut screws, and eventually my irons as well. I cleaned it weekly, covered the slide with a small amount oil and still ran into issues. Traded it in for a Glock 43X, not looking back
Just like I & others suspected. Why are you cleaning your firearm weekly? Were you putting 1000 rounds through it weekly? If not then you’re over cleaning it which can lead to rusting.
May be dumb but I don’t want a carry gun with. 100 percent precocked striker. Glocks are 65-70 percent. That is also why they don’t have the best triggers. They are kind of double action. Others are pretty much single action making for a light take up then crisp break.
OK, I got it, you do not feel good about it. I have had several pistols of all names with problems before. i.e. a Walther that would not fire or eject a shell. The Glock 19 felt like a piece of wooden 2X4 in my hand, could not hit anything. My first P365 had light primer strikes, primer drag, failure to fire and no feed, bullet nose impacted on the front of the magazine. Problem was gunk and metal shavings in the striker channel. After clean up it runs well, no rust and it feels perfect to the hand.
I am not a Sig hater, I have two of the older ones, a 938 and a 238. My thoughts are, the older hammer fired pistols were their peak. But I have never liked how they handle problems. The 938 and 238, they changed the generation, didn't tell anybody, and the parts were not interchangeable. And they wouldn't fix known issues until there was a problem (I have personal experience with that). And then they started doing away with the lineup. Then the polymers came out and started having issues with strikers and triggers in the 365s, and of course then the problems that the P320 has seen. And of course they don't want to lose their contracts so they're not going to admit anything, even after 150 or so incidents. Do I think they can fix it? Maybe. I hope they do. But I have a bad feeling it's going to take somebody getting killed before they finally faced that they have a problem. And I know, people say it's because the holster didn't fit the pistol right, or user error, or hitting it with a seatbelt, etc. My question is, why would you have a fully cocked striker system without an external safety, that can go off that easily by just being bumped into a holster that hits the trigger? Or is there something in the sear? We may never know. But I will say this, I have no intention of carrying a polymer Sig. Too many other good choices for the risk.
I have 5000 rounds through one and 3000 through another. Not one issue. 🤷♂️ and I have a macro for home defense. I have a g26 gen 3 500 rounds through it not one issue. The other day I was at the range with p365x. I pulled the trigger. Click. Tap rack. Put back in click. Put it in the Glock click. Sometimes it’s just ammo that’s why I like to have multiple firearms to test it out
I wish S&W would make a gun the same form factor as my new hellcat pro. I liked my m&p 2.0 compact, but it's so heavy and wide. Picked up a hellcat pro promo deal with the red dot to edc now. Never used a dot before, but first time at the range after sighting it in, started to feel like cheating lol. I had put a few hundred rounds through the m&p when I had it, and not one malfunction or issue ever. The old curved trigger is goofy, but that's the only weakness. They put a much better trigger on the newer models.
I bought one of the first p365’s when the first came out, ive got 188 boxes (9,400 rounds) ive had 3 malfunction all related to Winchester ranger xp rounds that the bullets weren’t seated in spec. Ive carried it concealed since 2018. It has been a joy owning, all internals are factory, i replaced the recoil spring at 6000 rounds as sig recommends.
Like to share my experience with p365. I have three of them, p365x at 6100 rounds, p365xl at 9500 rounds, xmacro at 4300 rounds, the p365x and the xmacro have no issue at all, my p365xl had a few failed to extract at 8500 rounds, I replaced with a new extractor kit ($20), run through additional 1000 rounds flawlessly, the xl is a happy shooter again. I carry them all and I am pretty accurate with p365s, I shoot 3-4 inch groups at 25 yards. I also own 2 glocks and a few m&p, they are all great firearms to me, love them all.
I carry my FN Reflex everyday, it is my favorite Micro, but the Sig is a close close second. I like it much more than the hellcat. Glocks are just behind the game pretty badly. Good video.
So, reasonable information, thanks. I've watched 2 of your videos and i can't help but perceive a strong non verbal undertone that you are really trying to show off that you have a lot of guns. If those are all your guns then cool for you....good job. Just wanted to let you know that this undertone is present in case you didn't realize. Kind of gets in the way of the meaning of your actual claimed content and distracts people to "look at all i got" instead of here's what i've found out, etc. Like i said, its non verbal and not spoken.
Yes I have heard with the rugers. I actually had good luck with my ec9s and pocket carried it for a while and had no rust issues! But yes, I have heard and seen many a ruger with rust
This is all personal preference and experience. People take these words to heart. I have an FN reflex and it’s been nothing but FTFs out of the box. I am not talking riding the slide because even from a slide lock drop it will fail to feed. Hard to get consecutive rounds through it without the issue. There’s a video where there is one in a vice and consistently shoots low and left which is very weird. Just picked up an x macro non comp and need to hit the range with it
I had a glock 19 Crack so I've stayed away from golck ever since. I've had 3 sigs and shot 1000's of round of each with zero issues. When I was in the army I had a colt Ar15 that jammed on me multiple times and I had a dpms ar15 that never jammed on me. I don't think any one is better than the other but we each have our own experiences with these firearms whether good or bad.
I was a SIG hater. Now, however, as the P365 Series wrinkles have been thoroughly ironed out, I find it to be the top micro-9 EDC. They’ve been flawless, and they shoot better than the 43X - which is a phenomenal firearm (albeit w/ meager OEM capacity). The 365 irons are the best standard sights in the industry IMO. The P320 is absolute trash; I would NEVER trust one. The rust issue on the 365s is very annoying, but it’s cosmetic, and some MPro 7 lube weekly isn’t an excessive burden to me. A German micro-9 decock-only (or LEM) hammer gun w/ paddle mag releases is what we desperately want. (Looking at you, HK and Walther.) All that aside, HK makes the finest defensive firearms in the world. Nobody else even comes close. I wish they’d offer a micro-9. (The soon-to-debut VP9CC will be nice, but it’s no hammer gun.) Hammers are important for safer holstering and drawing. Glock refuses to innovate. They rest on their laurels, and we’re sick and tired of waiting for them to meet our demand.
I agree with everything you said, except I think Springfield Armory’s U Iron sights are the best in the industry. I haven’t found better iron sights on a pistol yet. 👍🏻
@@tehclefty5317 It’s funny; as I wrote that, I momentarily considered the HC irons. Not sure if I’m sold on the U-notch. I don’t use one, so I can’t comment on those sights’ performance.
Glock refuses to change something that works. Glock users put reliability at number one. I'm not saying anything bad about HK, except I don't like the feel of them or the looks of them, but that's beside the point… I just have no reason to want one. My Glocks do everything I want them to do, and I have no interest in them changing anything that might impact their dependability. I don't even care about the sights, I have never had a pistol of any brand (except for one) that I didn't change the sights on. But I disagree with the argument that Glock owners are tired of waiting… I know a lot of us that aren't. I guess the question is, waiting for what? We like the triggers OK, it's a half cock safety system so yes, the triggers are heavy. The grip angle? A lot of us like it. They switched up to marksman barrels, they have come out with better triggers, and they are still keeping for 100% dependability. So what is it we are waiting for supposedly? Am I a fan boy? Yes, and I didn't start out that way, but over the years Glock has proven itself to me. And I have sold most of my S&W's, Springfields, and Sigs.
@@BlueRidgeCritter Let me stop you at “Glock users put reliability first.” If you’re starting with that corny shxt, then the rest of your comment isn’t worth reading. Every gun owner puts reliability first. No, Glock is not the most reliable pistol ever, not even the most reliable for the price. They have failed on police many times. This isn’t 2008 anymore gramps. Go with pistols that are just as, or more reliable, but actually come out of the box great. Not needing 5 upgrades to be on there competitors level… You’re a shill, or you’ve been conned like the others.
Have you tried the Cz rami with the decocker? Sounds close to what you want, mine unfortunately has the manual safety and I don’t ever carry it but it is a solid beautiful gun.
Try replacing parts on a sig in a shtf situation. I can take apart a whole Glock, hellcat, smith and Wesson, cz, ruger etc and put it together in 5 minutes. Zero chance of that with an fcu. 2 of 4 of my p365’s had issues
The Sig 365 is just incredible, very accurate. The Trigger on the 365 maybe a serious issue when it comes to actual self defense. The pistol's accuracy under duress has a lot to do with the trigger.
I have one of the first ones made i do love it but i dont carry it either but not for any of these reasons mine has been ultra reliable but ive just moved on to different platforms. I must say though that it was and still is the king of the micro double stacks in my humble opinion.
Im around the 4-6k round count on my 365xl. 0 safety issues, 0 rust. You should see it rn, take it down and it makes black face on rdj look tame. Still shot it td, had 1 ejection fail for 150 rounds. Did 500 rounds last saturday, 1 failed ejection. Comclusion, 🤷♂️. my trigger, that shit is as crisp as the day i got it. ~10-15 failure to ejects over 4-6k ish rounds. Idk if those are mag, ejector, or not propperly supporting the gun sometimes, still researching.
It's just INSANE to me that a company would have such bad problems with rust, but not fix it. Even many of the cheap firearms have finishes on them that last a lot longer than the P365 or Ruger LCP's. I know the Ruger LCP's are just bluing... but I've seen many firearms that are blued that last for years of concealed carry without every rusting (or even neglect). I also bought a bunch of Ruger MKIII parts (including a bolt assembly) and they ALL rusted in their sealed packages before I ever even got to open them. I cleaned off the rust from the bolt and then put it in a bag Soaked in oil... and then it STILL rusted IN the oil. It just costs pennies to finish these parts so they never rust and it would only increase production costs by such a small amount that nobody would ever notice or care if they had to pay the extra cost of the part being finished. (Like, I'm not gonna be angry if the part I order is $0.15 more, because it has a good, long lasting, durable finish on it... and I'm sure that most people wouldn't even mind if they had to pay an extra $1.00 per part... and it would never cost that much to finish any small parts... and even large parts don't cost much more. (Like Glocks only cost $40.00 make each... and they tenifer all their parts big and small with the newer, more expensive, more environmentally friendly gaseous tenifer process... and I'm sure the tenifer and the coating of the slide are only a fraction of the total cost of manufacturing... and I would bet that the main cost is employee wages).
I’m not sure I would trust the comments about Sigs rusting. I use mine for church security, I wear a vest, and it gets sweat on it all the time. I have had no problem whatsoever and I own two of them. Sig. is an excellent product in my opinion. I have no rust or functionality issues with mine whatsoever. None.
I know a couple of people that have had some rust issues, and while they're not happy about it it's not a dealbreaker for them, they just maintain them a little better. That said, I don't personally have one and won't buy one (at least, in the polymer lines, I have two in the older lineups that have been great). But to answer your question, the company has really gone on a brand loyalty kick the past few years. People say Glock fan boys have always been bad, but I think Sig fanboys are every bit as bad if not worse.
Thanks for this video. As a soon to be New gun owner trying to figure out what guns to buy I’ve heard great things about Sig and some bad. The fact is the rusting issue isn’t covered by Sig under warranty. I don’t think u would get the same response from S&W, Glock, canik, CZ, HK or Walther. I don’t need to buy a couple of guns, have all this worry, no warranty and wind up with a $500+ useless gun. Reliability has to be number 1 and they don’t have it. Because of people like U posting honest reviews, people like me can learn from your experiences and buy something we can trust. I even contacted Sig about the issue as a question and if they were now standing by their products in regards to the rusting issue and they never responded. Thank You
Rust? Use TW25B. Just don't buy the spray can. Coat the gun 2 or the times. You will notice the gun running smoother. Carbon buildup wipes off in seconds. And the best part is it doesn't run or make your gun feel oily. The gun will reject dust,. Dirt, etc
I have plenty of rust on my three year old P365XL. I have nearly 5000 rounds through mine with no firing issues except one. Around 3,000 rounds the trigger bar spring broke. I replaced it myself for less than $10. I did have a failure of the front night sight, but Sig customer service replaced that for free.
that's wild. I have an XMacro "comp" and I've probably put 5k rounds through it in 6 months. Zero Malfunctions. I tossed a glock 26 for it. Shoots wonderfully too. Still enherenlty afrade to appendix carry it with one in the place. All that being said, I am really really accurate with it. Posted a short of myself dropping a magazine into bullseye at 32ft
I am a newer p365 owner. I’m carrying it daily. I have the xl gen 2. No rust issues. I have had issues with tula 115 steel case not feeding/ejecting properly. I bought lightly used. I have recently had some light primer strikes, range and I agreed this is likely a dirty striker assembly and needs a good cleaning. Runs fine with defensive loads. That’s my operating issue. I will agree that the fcu swapping is not as easy as it should be. I have spent 2-3 hours due to things coming out of place and requiring re-assembly and fixing. This swapping issue has been annoying as I like the idea of swapping the lower depending on how I’m dressed and need to carry that day. All in all I’m happy, but these few hiccups have been frustrating.
The P365 rust issue is a valid concern. I have never had to oil a single one of my other firearms DAILY in order to protect it from rusting. My P320 has never had an issue with rust.
Not sure how you are getting rust on the slide as it’s stainless steel. Unless your leaving it in a salt bath and don’t do any preventative maintenance at all, you shouldn’t be seeing rust. Magazines need to be wiped down as well.
I was looking at the 380. My local range said they had it to rent on their website, but didn't, so I tried out a 42 & the guy put a few different 365's on the counter so I could compare them. I've never cared for glocks, but I had a great experience. I had wanted the sig for a long time, but even with the higher capacity and awesome reviews something is telling me to go with the 42
Is it dangerous to carry over a mete mc9… I’m always afraid of shooting my wiener off, with my finger off the trigger, am I the only one who worries about that…. 🤔
My wife has the p365 with a manual safety and we are very happy with it. I have the Sig P365 X Macro and love it. I have 4 Glocks 2 Springfields and 4 Sigs and 1 FN 509c. For CCW my X Macro is my favorite hands down.
Comment for the algorithm. Love your channel man-- I have an Avalanche guide rod on the way based on your recommendation. It's for this weird Rock Island gen 3 glock clone I have, so we'll see if it even works 😂
I carry a p365X and S&W model 637. No rust and FCU issues. I fairly clean it regularly because I sweat. No, I don't shower it with oil. I have no problems with your choices despite hating on the gun's "shortcomings" despite easily fixable. The P365 is not for everyone, especially the haters.
I've been an RSO at the busiest location of a major chain of gun stores for three years. The only catastrophic pistol failure I've seen was a P365 9mm,. I was there and picked up the pieces remaining. The chamber split and destroyed the frame. There was no obstruction in the barrel. I can't verify the ammunition, but the round involved wasnot the first fired from the magazine. The customer purchased the gun used from another source and had been shooting it for a few weeks. Sig refused to warrantee the gun or even discuss the matter. Fortunately the injury to the shooter was minor.
