Why I Hate The Doors | Mike The Music Snob 

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Legend says mike enters his house through a window

Mike, I respectfully disagree with your incorrect opinion.

Morrison didn’t “leave”. He freaking died

This is like a dance teacher’s critique of why Jim Morrison’s dancing on stage wasn’t technically sound or choreographed properly. lol

He made this video after he found out his mom had an affair with Jim

"Hatred is a very underestimated emotion" - Jim Morrison

"When Morrison left" You mean when Morrison died?

This guy sounds like the clerk at a guitar center who complains and whines whenever you ask for a record.

Imagine how much pressure Mike has to write his own songs after all these rants.

"After Morrison left" mate you make it sound like he had a choice

The fact that more than 50 years later we are still talking about this band means one thing: they left their mark, were authentic,successful & didn’t waist their time and others discrediting x to get credit..mission accomplished

The Doors aren't about technique. They're about sex on the beach after you swim the sparkling trail the full moon casts on the water. They're about dancing in a hurricane as you listen to Riders on the Storm. They're doing 80mph to Road House Blues. They're 3AM on a rainy night after the bars close. They're about the long dark teatime of the soul (Thanks, D.A.) And that's why, 50 years after their heyday, they are still listened to. Take a 6-pack to the beach and listen to them again under the stars. And if you still don't get it - sorry, I can't be your guide.

Are you salted because you will never have perfect hair like jims?

This whole video strikes me as the kind of situation where maybe Mike had a girl that he was really really into, but she didn't like him back or broke his heart, and she really loved The Doors.

The first time I heard The Doors' music was a long long time ago, as a child. A child does not: 1 - have an opinion that is influenced by any external factors, 2 - understand concepts such as technique or poetry. To my untrained and naive ears, the sound of Light My Fire playing for the first time was such an intense and powerful experience that I still remember it. Why? Why would that song mean so much to me? Simple...I had no misconceptions tainting my perception, I had no clue if Jim Morrison was dead, living, ghost, a genius, I didn't even know what sex and drugs were or if they were famous or obscure. All I knew was that this music was a huge f* deal and felt larger than life.

Disagree Music isn’t a technique, speed or innovation competition. It’s a way to share the sounds in your head. The doors created a unique vibe that is genius!

Valid arguments and examples here but was getting rid of every door in your house really necessary?

You listen To Dream Theater And you're going off On lyrics

Music shouldn’t be only about technique and your skill set it’s about feeling the music

This is what happens when you only listen to metal and prog and become a hyper serious elitist bore who thinks music can be objectively rated on a scale of playing ability and technicality. The doors are just cool, it’s not that complicated

Imagine Jim Morrison listening to an opinion of someone whose sponsor is to help hair growth. It's a crazy world we live in. The end

We can all agree that Ray Manzarek is killer.

I had such a heartwarming moment when scrolled down and saw everyone disagreeing

Jim Morrison had such overwhelming presence on stage and off stage; he had the x-factor so unique to him that nobody can ever copy. He had looks, he had moves, he had voice, he had the deepest soul, and he had brains. He was the total package. He will always be loved by many people in the world, regardless what jealous and clueless people say. Miss him so much.

I personally disagree but I also respect for your point of view. Your ponits were honest and logical. You went through their catalog and wrote well structured arguments. It is clear that you prepared for that video really well. Disliked and Unsubscribed.

"the end" is a hell of a song… a fantastic song indeed...

Jim Morrison and the Doors did more in 3 years then most bands do in a lifetime, Morrison was gifted , smart .He predicted wheremusic was heading and that one person would use equipment, tapes and other stuffby them selves. Dude was a genius. This guy sounds like he s jealous as fuck.Lets consider Jims been dead for almost 50 years and people talk about him, miss him copy his style and yet 2020 he s still a legend .Jims influence and imprint will last ass long as time ,

Well, I really hated the Doors until I decided to pay more attention to them and actually listen to their records. I love them now.

“Jim Morrison sings the way deaf people speak” DED

Robbie Krieger was only 19 when The Doors formed, and 20 when they recorded their debut album...is he the greatest guitar player ever? No, but he was experimental, and trying to not regurgitate the same thing everybody else was doing at the time

Damn his like and dislike ratio got destroyed shouldn’t messed with the Lizard King

"Jim Morrison probably got the closest to being an artist within rock n'roll ... He was really a great poet" Patty Smith. What's your name again? ....

I'm amazed at how someone can miss the point of the doors so badly.

I love the Doors for the very simple fact that they sound like no one else (which admittedly doesn't mean they're good, just odd) and their sound is remarkably evocative of an esoteric, dark mood. Their lack of polish tended to work in their favor.

Jesus Christ! Are you ok dude? Who hurt you? We get that you are the most technical guitar player that has ever existed, I bet you are way more creative and musical than the legendary Doors

This guy takes music to such a degree of objectivity that he's trained himself to no longer get any sort of visceral reaction to it. Instead, it's all about ticking boxes with Mike.

it's okay to have bad taste in music, you just didn't have to make an 18 minute long video about it

Mike's hate for The Doors is about as strong as his love for Steve Vai

Yeah,now we all have become experts and we can criticize one of the most legendary bands ever existed...the doors...are we kidding? Their music is haunting... Morrison's lyrics are pure poetry and his singing style is unique...sexy..and deep.. re-presenting his lyrics perfectly...

This dude probably like the movie version of The Doors then the actual The Doors

They just dont light your fire

Ray Manzarek is the keyboard player and he has the most musical sense in that band. He's more important than Jim Morrison in that band imo

What I think Mike is missing (horribly) is first, certain bands have certain chemistry. If a person attempts to dissect music too closely, the chemistry becomes invisible. Second, music often reflects an era, or an emotion, or politics, or an event, etc. I can't listen to much country or hip hop b/c of not being able to relate to the emotion or the events that inspire it. Stuff was happening in the world at the time of the Doors' heyday, and a mood that can't ever be seen again. Equally important is that all four members' musical backgrounds came from / were influenced by other types of music genres, which can be a vague term meaning many things to many people. However defined, it can be the birth / origin of a unique fusion that is best when unintentional, as with the Doors, and makes them UNIQUE, especially at the time. They don't sound like any musicians today, or any musicians at that time, even though Mike strains to find connections. Densmore's drumming comes from jazz roots. His time syncopation was varied and creative, and uncommon for the most part. Krieger's guitar came from flamenco training, and southern blues. Manzara's keyboards were a combination of a classical foundation, but I've always heard some jazz phrasing, in and of itself unique. Morrison's vocals were from blues, or expression of the poetry in his head, or from another planet, but unique, even if he was drunk and off key sometimes. Their writing went far beyond three chords. End of the day, Mike is entitled to his opinion, as we are all. I did listen to his entire presentation, and simply disagree. He hears stuff in Doors' music that I don't, and certainly vise versa. The most important thing that where I think Mike is wrong is that he seems to imply that they, the members, were trying to create a certain sound, and failing, according to him. I believe they were just playing what they heard, and were inspired to create, from their chemistry, and their groove, and as affected by their world. I don't think they formed to get rich - probably just to enjoy music and get dates, an old formula.

Bloody love The Doors!!! Not listened to them for a while....Gonna have a big Doors night now! Cheers mate!!

They stand out from the rest of the bands of their time. I feel they’re actually underrated in some respects. That’s my opinion 🧐

I think if you’re discussing scales and technique while talking about The Doors then you’re completely missing the point. And critiquing Morrison’s lyrics when you’re clearly a Maiden fan? Dude. (I love Maiden too but c’mon man)

One of the most defining moments of my life when it comes to music was being at a friends house awake by myself when everyone else was asleep and a doors concert was playing on tv and I watched the whole thing. It made me appreciate live music like I hadn’t before

This guy either wants to be Jim or be inside him, I can't tell, but he's one hundo % mad jells

Mike: ''Jim Morrison is overrated!'' *shuts the doors behind him* Mike's dad: ''WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT SLAMMING THE DOORS?''

Time for another episode of Mike Wants to Start A Riot In The Comments

Just because something isn’t complicated doesn’t mean it isn’t good, they beautifully explored life and there selves threw their creative music

I thought music/poetry was supposed to be fun, it could be anything, with any meaning and any sounds. With people like Mike, music isn't fun anymore.

I can't hear you over the keyboard of "Riders on the storm".

Robby Krieger is literally a trained jazz guitarist, but i guess Dan the metal man knows better.

He list all the songs that weren’t hits from the doors. Like every band or singer had hits on every album

"I eat more chicken any man ever seen." - Jim Morrison

His "accent" and style of singing is what makes the doors such a great and iconic band, The Beatles has there own style and technique when it comes to instrumental and lyrics, a unique style that you do not like does not mean it is bad.

Lmaaaaaao I am living for all these comments dragging you through the mud.

"i will say in songs like, when your strange" this fool doesnt even know the track names

I feel so sad for you Mike. You cannot see the good. Jim Morrison and The Doors have carried so many of us through tough times. If you ever meet a Doors fan you will feel the level of protection for him, sadly you are lost- best of luck.

I’ve always said this channel needs to be half music content half amazing hair content.

You must dislike bob dylan then lol

The Doors are amazing. PHENOMENAL actually

Who hurt you bro

he’s legit not an overrated lyricist

I feel like you don’t give enough credit for innovation, especially in context of when the music was released. You’d probably be more impressed if you understood just how creative they were compared to other bands of their time

No opinion is wrong… except this opinion, this one is definitely wrong

Dang...I guess I now have to check out your band, to see what innovations you are bringing.

I'm not really that much of a Doors fan either, so this doesn't offend me one bit, but a lot of this can be easily picked apart: Drawing heavily from blues? Pretty standard for their period of existence; I doubt you'll find much rock in the 60s that doesn't draw at least considerably from blues... Psychedelia, again, was another prevalent thing in the 60s, with a lot of acid rock and flower power hippie stuff going on, so you might as well just make a general criticism of the decade rather than single out one band... The same thing can be said of predictability, considering that only later in the '70s music made great leaps in songwriting with better technique development and bands wanting to expand and becoming more and more progressive... I don't find the guitar really impressive either, but this just reaffirms why Hendrix was considerered such a game-changer, because a lot of guitarists before him were actually quite awful, and Robby Krieger might have actually been better than a lot of them if you consider there are jazzier and darker passages that put them on a different direction from other bands... Awkwardness in the music is another partial truth, put this awkwardness to create an unsettling atmosphere was actually a counteract of the more in the clouds tree-hugging hippie crap that saturated the music of the time (if you want to say they weren't being efficient at it, that might be a bit more fair)... This brings me to my last point, which is the fact that if vastly superior musicians in the 70s at any given point were drawing inspiration from The Doors to create much better music, delving into territory that might have been considered unsafe, risky or even creepy before, then you can see why it has historical value...

I think that analysing the technical skill, of each musician a band consists of, not to be the best way to demonstrate that the band itself was, or not, a great one. When knowing your contents and your ideas, and under the assumption that you, self-ironically, call yourself “Prog Snob”, a visitor of your page gets a clear picture of your way of feeling and seeing music, or art in general, that is to say you attach great importance to technique/skill. But that’s not always enough, or rather, it’s not skill to determine how great something or someone is. Look at Jimi Hendrix! Purists of his time could easily ride roughshod over him, because he played in an unorthodox way, by not observing the standard way of playing guitar. And he was an innovator, who interpreted the cultural atmosphere of his time, and he is still modern. Though they did not have a particular skill on their instruments (Manzarek excepted), The Doors brought a new technique/style: a new different language. Their sound was their own only. They certainly took inspiration from their predecessors, and contemporaries, but the mix they created is absolutely unique, so it’s rather inappropriate, and superficial, that one gets to define them poor man’s Grateful Dead, or the combination of many pre-existing bands. The fact that you, as a musician, and a “prog snob” (I don’t necessarily mean that like a negative thing) cannot appreciate a band who is composed by instrumentalists who’d rather give importance to sound as an unicum, than to great skill, is absolutely legitimate, but there’s a huge difference between disliking and trying to demonstrate that the band you dislike was not so great as it seems. You named your video “Why I hate The Doors” and you listed your reasons, plausibly true according to you, almost objective, why they were not a great band. And you went so far as to say that many of their fans are musical ignorants, who don’t know what a chord, or a melody made as Christ commands, is like. I feel that, as frequently haters do, you gave reasons that are completely subjective, disguised as objective. Ok, John Densmore’s drumming sometimes is out of synch. Ok, Robby Krieger didn’t always come up with particularly original solos. Ok, Jim Morrison sometimes had a way of singing that was garbled. Then, I ask you: so what? If Densmore had flawlessly held the pace, if Krieger had developed better skill (actually, let’s be fair, most of rock artists in the Sixties had not much of a technique/skill!), if Morrison had sung in a more precise way, “on point”, would those same songs have had that magic we, Doors’ fans, poor common mortals, feel in them? If they don’t mean nothing to you, it’s alright, but to analyse a band in terms of skill only … Except for your personal reasons about technique, I don’t think that you proposed some more “progressive” arguments. I list you some of my reasons why The Doors were a huge band, one of the best in the history of rock, and music in general: 1) They were born in ’65 (like Pink Floyd), as a blues band (like Pink Floyd), “just” to develop, in a year and a half, a distinctive sound (think about those many artists who need years to get truly personal), totally different from the initial one, and, by doing so, they became a name to watch on the Californian live scene, with songs that combined blues, jazz, Spanish and eastern music, rock ‘n’ roll, and psychedelic rock, which, at the time, was still a “pre-historical” genre; 2) They published their first album, “The Doors”, in January ’67, before Summer of Love, before the explosion of hippie movement, of which they were not a part, in fact Morrison himself was very critical of it, recognizing the hypocrisy (or superficiality) behind it … and in that album, for the first time (or almost) they chose to include, at the ending of each LP sides, two “songs” that lasted more than 7 minutes, and in which there were tempo changes and a whole bunch of moods alternating (so, that album is what you might call a “proto-progressive album”). Grateful Dead recorded their first album in that very January, and they would publish it two months later, whereas The Doors had recorded the whole debut album in ’66. If there is any similarity, it’s because both bands were Californian, but Grateful Dead were more inspired by folk and country music than by weird blending with Eastern and Spanish moods; 3) Jim Morrison is one of the first rock frontmen who really emerged as an icon, adding the theatrical element, both in the lyrics and in live performances. Clearly inspired by Mick Jagger, Jim was, though, a cut above, because Jagger and Company would have never thought about writing a piece like “The End”, or to readapt a cabaret piece like “Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar)”, in a modern key, or to talk about reptiles or highways that look like snakes, about killers, unknown soldiers, or Indian summers, etc … Jim was the one who definitely brought mythology into rock, which became something intellectual, and not only a consumer item; if not the first, he was one of the first, along with Bob Dylan, Frank Zappa and Velvet Underground; 4) The fourth reason, that follows on from the previous one, Morrison’s lyrics were real poetry; even those that seem less profound were functional to melodies, and they are perfect when sung, and sung in that specific way; also take a look to his collections of poems … you don’t know how many compositions you will find, to prove that Morrison was indeed illuminated by something upper; it is obvious that, being part of a band, he couldn’t base a whole album on extremely cultural value poems; I guess that such an album doesn’t exist. I don’t comment on what you said about drugs, because, if that’s a reason why to hate them, well, it is a pretty shitty reason. As if The Doors did that kind of music because of drugs only. If anything, if they played some shitty concerts, it’s just because sometimes they took drugs. I’m sorry to break it to you, but The Doors were an extraordinary band whom, however, you don’t like … face it!

I think Doors are one of those bands where every member plays important role. Sure there is better musitians. But level of creative force between 4 was up in the sky. Energy this band had was for me much powerfull than any metal or hard rock band.

Not liking The Crystal Ship is akin to stomping on a bag full of newborn kittens.

People actually listen to the post-Morrison Doors catalog?

I hated the Doors and I kid you not I watched this 5 months ago and right after watching I loved the Doors cause you played some tracks that you thought showed why they were bad and I loved it and now I love the Doors. Also I play guitar and have been for a while now and I still like Krieger’s playing...

Man...you just come across as seriously jaded on this one....while I'm not a huge fan I can easily kick back with a few beers and listen to any of there records and have a fine time

So nice to find I'm not the only one - I've tried, for years, to see the incredible beauty that everyone else sees in The Doors, but I just can't.

Seems like everyone in the comment section disagree with you.. 😂

I understand Mike's points, really. As someone who listens to a lot of prog rock and some technical metal, the Doors are an underwhelming experience. It's mostly simple, quite repetitive in some songs and overall "outdated". But as someone who enjoys music for what it is, the Doors are an extraordinary and very talented band. They were experimental, poetic, very diverse in their music with each album exploring different genres, fusing different elements into a single recognizable entity. Morrison's voice swiftly fits Krieger's gentle guitar licks. Technical? Not in the slightest but beautiful none the less. Ray Manzarek's mastery is more than note worthy. Essentially he was the bass player and soloist at the same time, allowing songs to have multiple sequences of guitar and vocal conversation alongside a percussive and smooth keyboard monologue while filling a groove that'd keep you locked in the song. Something that was very apparent in their live performances was their tendency to improvise in order bring a new experience for the audience, giving a damn good reason for their audience at the time to attend their shows. Those were the 60's, the people who listened to the Doors were into that and they simply fit the bill in all ways. Just like Slayer appeals to any fan of thrash metal in their aggression. You don't like the Doors not because they suck, it's because this music wasn't meant for you.

Warning to all The Doors fans: When he said he was harsh, he was really harsh 🤣🤣🤣 Edit: By the way, the pianist/bassist was Ray Manzarek! I believe he operated the piano and a bass piano at the same time (I believe that’s what it’s called) He was really talented, most talented out of the group

I was willing to listen to dude up until he submitted Crystal Ship as evidence of bad lyricism/melody-writing/anything. That song is fucking gorgeous. Morrison’s singing is Sinatra-esque, the arrangements are beautifully atmospheric and moody. The psych guitar tones, the bells, the light drums. The Doors were a notable band in that 1st half of their career cause they were able to combine so many different influences into a cohesive sound that TO THIS DAY not many artists have been able to replicate

Dude the The Doors? I don't understand. You have to remember it was 50 years ago. They were far ahead of their time. If you don't think that they were sophisticated musicians check out Rick Beato - What Makes This Song Great - The Doors - Touch Me. Not to mention Ray Manzarek was a genius. He revolutionized the whole left hand bass playing thing. Many of the things he did are almost impossible to play. Try playing Riders on the Storm and you'll have a new respect for The Doors.

Morrison said in an interview,.-I don’t really think of myself as a singer man I’m more of a screamer. For me, The Doors were still an incredible band and sounded great. They, were a unique and eerie sounding mix of blues, jazz, hard rock.

He called Jim Morrison a "hippie"? I'm dying of laughter!!!

I can respect this, finally, Ive stumbled upon a video that disses the doors that I can understand and be cool with. Theres proper reasoning and research, thank you! All though the doors are my most favorite band of all time

mediocre? Yeah, that's why people love them. Their mediocrity. Not the conservatorium trained musicianship of Ray Manzarek. Not their indellible impact on music history. It's their mediocrity. You nailed it.

when you're not even in your 20's and you're already considering a sponsored hair loss product :/

They were an energetic force! I love them, they were in synch and some of the songs are dissonant and off balance but they are working together to make something unhinged and fun not the pursuit of some bach perfection. Jim was influenced by sinatra.

There are some understandable points in this critique but it also may lack context. Morrison was a poet, a writer whoe was able to use music as a vehicle. He was more interested and trained in poetry, theatre and film. His focus was to bring an Antoone Artuad oriented experience to music. Using the Bertolt Brecht song was an example of this. Krieger was only 19 when the band formed and was trained as a jazz and flamenco guitarist. Thus it is reasonable that his blues oriented licks could be limited. Combine this with the overall merging of music and theater which they were trying to accomplish and one could easily miatinerpet the result and intent. Ray Manzarek was a trained pianist. Steeped in Chicago blues and jazz. His performance are rich, subtle, expressive and remember he was playing a fender keyboard bass at the same time. Densmore's drumming is deserving of certain criticisms. But again one has to check the background. He was trained as a marching band and a jazz drummer. The combination of the historicsl training of the individual members of the band, and the theatrical and poetical intentions of the band could very wel venture into musical criticisms but those criticisms may overlooking the intent. All the members well well trained, well educated individuals with artistic goals. Those goals may not translate to one's taste and that is fine, but when one adds insult to criticism it lessens the credibility of the criticism.

Doors were ahead of there time and one of the most under rated bands ever imo.

If he’s talking about lyrics I’d hate to hear what he thinks about poison or any of those cheesy hair metal bands

Thank you for this one too. You have expressed much of what I thought about the Doors.

Cheerful little fella!

You hate the Doors so much you made sure your shirt didn't say "Alabama" or "Whiskey" on it

Jim Morrison is a legend!

The organ sounds like a soundtrack for clown cars and little people juggling on unicycles.

No but like Gloria? It could fucking ressurrect a dead man, man. Not for everybody but for me it's the sexiest song ever written

The doors are my favorite band and yea I agree they’re not the greatest talent but I just love how they work together and made something different and special with Jim Morrison’s vision mane

It’s alright, Mike, l I like The Doors, you love Dream Theater, our tastes even out.

no matter what you say jim and the doors as a whole will still go down as legends no matter if you like them or not. ride the snake