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Why I NEVER Use ELIXIR Coated Guitar Strings 

The Guitologist
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An installation of an under saddle piezo turns into a classic case of why I'll NEVER use Elixir Polyweb or Nanoweb coated guitar strings. Just listen to that string buzz! These strings were not fake - bought at Sweetwater. These strings were NOT old. The player used them for two practices and one gig before this. I have NOT yet tried the new Elixir Optiweb, but I'm open minded.
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@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
POSTSCRIPT NOTES! PLEASE READ BEFORE COMMENTING... Wow! Lots of comments overnight on this one. I like that! People are passionate about their strings, clearly. I'll try to answer a few of the comments here in a sticky comment, rather than repeating myself a lot. First, different people clearly have different chemicals and pH in their sweat and hand oils. I know this to be true because I can play a set of regular, uncoated strings for a year or more, especially on electric, without them demanding to be changed. My friend, Kevin, can pick up my guitar and play it ONE TIME and within a couple hours, the strings will be completely dead and rusted where he played. Crazy but true! So I totally understand others are not going to experience the same cost/benefit analysis as someone like me. Also, some people play differently, with a more aggressive style than others. My buddy, for instance, plays heavy blues and uses that G string a LOT for bending and aggressive vibrato. It's an element of that style of music and one CANNOT play that style without damaging these strings in one gig. It just isn't going to happen. I share some similarities in my playing with my friend, so these strings are OUT for me on that basis as well. Others might play more of a flatpicking, folk style, or stick to rhythm with cowboy chords mainly, so for this style, it's more likely to experience coating fraying in the area where one picks with a plectrum before seeing the kind of wear on these strings. Many of you have noticed I do not normally use a plectrum, so I never have the problem of coated strings fraying in the picking area above the sound hole. As always, to each his own. Everyone should use what works for THEM. What works for me isn't necessarily what will work for YOU. This is why celebrity endorsements generally, and especially when it comes to strings, do not impress me. Good advice from experienced individuals who have been playing a long time can be helpful, but they're still likely to only be able to tell you what works for THEM, not what will work for you. That is why the title of this video is "Why *I* Never Use ELIXIR Coated Guitar Strings". ;) Thanks for watching, y'all. Love the comments! PS: These strings were not fakes either, as many have suggested. They were purchased through Sweetwater.
@garyhundsrucker5430
@garyhundsrucker5430 7 лет назад
The Guitologist The black coated strings are junk too!They look nice for about a week then it's gap/ frayed section city!
@JohnTaylor-it3kp
@JohnTaylor-it3kp 7 лет назад
Just don't like you taking a cheap shot at the best brand in the business over a defective string. I could also tell the very different tale of what happens when someone who, like me, plays 4-6 hours a night, does NOT use coated strings, what's left of fingernails and calouses when he switched to a non-coated Austrian brand for 2 days. It was months before the nails fully recovered. But if you'd made your claim about coated strings in general you wouldn't have gotten the same reaction, huh? Bye Done with you and your hack antics.
@JohnTaylor-it3kp
@JohnTaylor-it3kp 7 лет назад
This is a post I'll agree with. Christopher Robin was endorsed by those Black Diamond coateds and they sent me a box of them trying to get me to endorse them. One 2 hour show and they were peeling off all over. But Elixers and such are not the same thing. THe blacks are vinyl coating. Elixirs aren't junk, not at all. That was just a defective string (or something on the guitar causing it.). Before I'd go disparaging the best brand in the business, I'd take some 0000 steel wool to the entire neck and polish them a bit, then replace the string. Then again, I'm not on here to get ratings on RU-vid.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Someone is seriously butt hurt over someone else's opinion about string choice. Jesus, I'd hate to see what happens to you when the reason for your distress actually matters.
@JohnTaylor-it3kp
@JohnTaylor-it3kp 7 лет назад
You just keep on believing you matter that much to me (or most anyone else.) It's not a matter of "butthurt." You're making disparaging remarks without valid basis. Blow your own horn on things you do instead of tryingt to tear others down and you won't have to worry about it anymore. The #1 guitar maker in this nation -- on guitars over $500 -- is Taylor. They have chosen to use Elixirs, when they could have used anyone's coated strings. That wasn't an accident, nor was it political. (They're certainly not going to tarnish their reputation on guitars that cost thousands of dollars over a $12-15 set of strings.) So maybe you just need to get over your delusions of grandeur. I'm sure there is something you're actually good at -- something original. Everyone would be better served if you were to show that off rather than trying to tear down a product that is used so broadly with such overwhelming success. Now, if it's all the same to you, I've got several better things to do, so could you find it in your heart to let it go already? I'll even let you have the last word, if it'll make you feel better.
@scottay6722
@scottay6722 7 лет назад
answer: get a new pack strings i only use elixirs and this has never happened. this is just negligence with string changes.
@aarhead01
@aarhead01 7 лет назад
Scott Seigel according to the description, he states the strings were not old
@josho225
@josho225 7 лет назад
agree. never had this happen in 2 years of using elixr. i figure these strings are just old.
@silvermica
@silvermica 7 лет назад
I use Elixir
@silvermica
@silvermica 7 лет назад
I use Elixir strings and never had fraying over the frets. Fraying has occurred where I use a plectrum, but without buzzing. If I were to get string buzz from Elixir strings then I'd stop using them.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 7 лет назад
I've only gotten fraying after a week or so of picking. Doesn't hurt anything
@danhogan4067
@danhogan4067 6 лет назад
I've been playing since 1974. I started using Elixiir Strings for acoustic, about a year ago. Absolutely the best strings I've ever seen.
@flamecrew9atroblox958
@flamecrew9atroblox958 3 года назад
Ikr
@phenixreturns
@phenixreturns 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aHVGMpnpu_w.html review
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar 7 лет назад
Simply replace the old Elixirs with new Elixirs. Problem solved. I've been using them for years and they last about 5 times longer than regular strings. Sure they fray- when they get old just like any brand will have issues when they get old.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
This set of strings was not old. He bought them less than a week before this vid was made and had used them for two practices and one acoustic gig. He invested in Elixirs because he's a working musician who is not wealthy and was looking for a return on investment. Elixir Polyweb was clearly a poor choice if ROI was the goal.
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar 7 лет назад
Elixir strings usually last me about 15 hours of total play time, electric or acoustic (roughly (3) 3 hour gigs plus some practicing at home). That's about 10 hours longer than non coated strings for me. Sure they fray after several hours but they still sound great for many more hours. I swear by Elixirs, I've been using them exclusively for since they came 15 or so years ago. A great investment and a quality product.
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar 7 лет назад
Also, don't bend a wound third string with ANY brand of string, that's just dumb. I put an unwound third on all the acoustics that i need to bend on. Wound strings were not meant to be bent, everyone knows that. This bashing the Elixir brand is completely needless and unwarranted.
@timjenkins502
@timjenkins502 7 лет назад
+Bill Jagitsch haha don't bend a wound string...so much for vibrato huh? never heard that before. you need to use vibrato on every string especially when soloing. people please don't listen to this guy^^^
@timjenkins502
@timjenkins502 7 лет назад
+max makin so u don't bend the string at all with vibrato....hmm you must suck
@williamdraper1679
@williamdraper1679 6 лет назад
Been using Elixirs for years- change em approx 2-3x per year. Stage work, non-coated, practise serveral hours per day, NEVER any issues with Elixirs. Yep, fan of them. Great feel too.
@mojorisin8368
@mojorisin8368 Год назад
You still telling lies?
@G_Demolished
@G_Demolished Год назад
Same. Elixirs are great.
@basementbob6146
@basementbob6146 7 лет назад
Those frets are in horrible shape. Those strings should not be re-used after going through the trouble of modding a guitar. Blaming Elixir is not to be taken lightly, because two other folks have more to do with this condition. The owner of that guitar, and the guy that did not change the strings after working on it. Incredible.
@krang07
@krang07 7 лет назад
that's what I first was looking at. how are those frets....oh heck, no wonder the strings are all tore up. someone flatten the frets and didn't do hardly anything to dress them proper. terrible.
@465marko
@465marko 7 лет назад
"Blaming Elixir is not to be taken lightly" - settle down, he's not threatening legal action. Yet.
@basementbob6146
@basementbob6146 7 лет назад
Ha ha ha that would be just rich wouldn't it!
@Jubular
@Jubular 7 лет назад
Basement Bob exactly, they are old and knackered.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 7 лет назад
465marko lol
@allanjollie1461
@allanjollie1461 7 лет назад
...You call yourself a "guitologist" and don't know enough to recognize worn out strings?...
@thebeastmaster3453
@thebeastmaster3453 6 лет назад
Allan Jollie good lord...
@MrSimondaniel3
@MrSimondaniel3 5 лет назад
right but this cant happen ever with normal strings. I play every day, my strings are fine + i honestly cant recall the last string changes on either guitar. years. gigging is different but all the more reason u dont want the possibility of the strings wearing in this way.
@ragnaroksangel
@ragnaroksangel 5 лет назад
Or fret+neck issues. Ridiculous
@roblarson9065
@roblarson9065 6 лет назад
I've played and toured with Elixir's for over ten years and love them. I try new ones but I always come back to Elixirs.
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 4 года назад
Worst sounding string ever. Sounds like wibrating metal pole
@analogaudiorules1724
@analogaudiorules1724 4 года назад
@@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 Probably doing something wrong then lmao.
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 4 года назад
@@analogaudiorules1724 haha i don't think so... But it may be that I'm talking bout electric guitar strings... I only would guess how bad acoustic ones are
@dogboy0912
@dogboy0912 4 года назад
@@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 They definitely have a kinda chubby plucky tone that is more prevalent on the lower strings. I don't really mind it. It kinda helps for fingerstyle as it doesn't sound quite as washed out. I think I'll keep using them because I like the feel.
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 4 года назад
@@dogboy0912 No, they just sound terrible. Like hitting a metal pipe with a metal pipe lol
@MadDawg60
@MadDawg60 2 года назад
I have been using Elixirs since 2005. I've had a set of Elixir on a 1970 Martin D-41. I bought it in 1971 and it has been my go-to instrument. Currently, the strings on it are about 1.5 years old and sound great, even in performance. Many of my friends who have played it on stage or just at a jam, can't understand why they sound as good as they do after hours of playing. These were introduced to me when I had a neck reset. They were recommended by the Martin Trained local tech, and I have never looked back. My hands sweat ACID and IO would kill a set of GHS Pro Formula, D'addario, and Martin Branded strings. 17 years experience, the freaking pandemic, Lockdown at home, I was playing for myself, so I didn't care how old they were, I didn't have money to buy ANY strings, so I just used my last set. They still sound great. The strings on THAT guitar are beyond old! Give him a set of D'addario coated strings, N EW strings! I respect your comment about Elixir strings, but I have no such experience!@
@godbyone
@godbyone Год назад
I play aggressively. Hands sweat a lot. I tear up string s elixirs. Never have this issue. They out last all strings. They have different versions. Polyweb is better than nano web … his video is bs
@gummybearkiller1
@gummybearkiller1 7 лет назад
file and polish the frets goddammit! No wonder the coating cracks on those sharp and uneven frets.
@richardv.582
@richardv.582 6 лет назад
Lars Nilsson Indeed,try refreting
@stevewarren4813
@stevewarren4813 5 лет назад
I used Elixir strings on my acoustic guitars until I started to notice that my "body chemistry" broke them down really fast. I don't, and haven't, had that issue with D'Addario strings.
@doublestrokeroll
@doublestrokeroll 7 лет назад
I don't think it's that people are "passionate" about strings. I think it's more about how illogical your whole video is. First off.....you're not telling us how old that set of elixers is. Are they a couple weeks old? A month? 3 months? 6 months? How much playing time on them? Not really reasonable to suggest, for example, that a set of 3 month old heavily played elixers should be expected to be in great condition. Wouldn't you say? Second, Why would you be putting a used set of strings onto a guitar after doing work on it? Seems strange. Is the guy that cheap? Strings need to be changed. Just because some people tolerate rusted or worn out strings doesn't mean that's a reflection of the quality of the brand itself. Maybe it's user expectations being ridiculously out of line? "A car should be able to do 300 000 miles with absolutely no maintenance or oil changes whatsoever. If it doesn't, it must be a terrible car company" Third, You didn't tell us if they are poly or nano. That does make a difference. The nano's are much better for this kind of problem. And again...that's assuming the problem on these strings is a legit defect, which judging by the look...is probably not the case. I'm guessing it's that user expectation thing again. "just put the old set back on".....lol... Fourth, You put the non coated string on...play it...then admit there is some buzzing from that one too.....lol. OK so maybe the coating is having an effect but maybe the guitar needs to be set up better regardless? If buzzing is a concern for the player that is. As for cost benefit....yeah....that's a personal thing. I agree with what you said for the most part. Although I'd say if you're playing a set of strings for "a year or more", they may not look like they need changing but they most certainly will sound like it. A year of playing at any reasonable amount will deaden the strings. One more time.....unrealistic user expectations. Coated or uncoated. Just because a set of strings looks OK doesn't mean they are OK. Basically people just need to stop being cheap bastards and change their strings.
@jirapatthaenphromrat2910
@jirapatthaenphromrat2910 7 лет назад
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@alvarg
@alvarg 5 лет назад
also some people's sweat just naturally destroys strings faster than others, mine for example seems to just chew through strings. its annoying, i can rip through a brand new set in 2 days and need a new set.
@CBOrion21
@CBOrion21 7 лет назад
this guy took off strings to mod a guitar and then put the same strings back on?
@juansantana3380
@juansantana3380 5 лет назад
Same dirty underwear’s 🤢🤢🤮
@souloftheage
@souloftheage 5 лет назад
That is funny he did that.
@jegr3398
@jegr3398 4 года назад
@@socco445 I done that
@im-pro-at-skyrim8285
@im-pro-at-skyrim8285 4 года назад
If you had a brain youd probably realize alot of these channels dont put new strings on
@jegr3398
@jegr3398 4 года назад
@@im-pro-at-skyrim8285 Ok Scarecrow
@7312justjoe
@7312justjoe 6 лет назад
I’ve got an acoustic w elixirs that are at least 4 years old and aren’t fraying like that. Been using elixirs for 20 years. One mishap like this won’t change my mind. None of my guitars have this issue
@SuperReasonable
@SuperReasonable 7 лет назад
Simple case of replacing them. I use only Elxir and have never had a problem with them.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Sure...replace them with D'Addario and don't look back.
@SuperReasonable
@SuperReasonable 7 лет назад
The Guitologist, having used them, i don't see what's special. They are fine as are Ernie Ball etc. I personally find the feel of Elixir feel, era good, especially the new ones just out...
@allanjollie1461
@allanjollie1461 7 лет назад
No, D'Addario don't compare.
@billrowse2266
@billrowse2266 7 лет назад
I've used elixr strings for about 7 years now on pretty much all my electric and acoustic guitars (over 30 between my dad and I). I can honestly say I've never had this issue or an issue like this at any point. I know people bitch about coated strings but I never realised it was about issues such as this.
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 7 лет назад
I Know Brad personally and he is a solid guy that gives his opinion if you don't like it I get that but no reason for you to have a hissy fit over it. I am a guitar tech as well and I see Elixer string split and fray all the time on electrics and acoustic guitars. Over 20 years of guitar repair so I have no reason to lie and I'm not tied to any string company so I'm just giving my opinion. If you like the strings use em' I don't care.
@gonzalot74
@gonzalot74 7 лет назад
yeah, usually it's that they sound "dead"...that's the main complaint I hear about coated strings. I have used Elixirs almost exclusively for the last 7-8 years myself and I think I have had no more than 3 strings have that happen from all the sets I've used. It can happen, but not a reason to talk badly about a company. That's like saying all cats are mean because you had one that was.
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 7 лет назад
Jamie I just go by what I see as a guitar tech and repair person. Coated strings sound OK but they have their limitations and aren't some magical wonder string like they want you to think. I'm not saying Elixer strings are horrible or the company sucks I'm just telling you what I see as a repair person.
@TheWesDrake
@TheWesDrake 7 лет назад
poly's
@roscoefoofoo
@roscoefoofoo 7 лет назад
If you're so hateful toward Brad, why are you bothering to watch and rant about his videos? Hate only hateful things, please.
@calumobrien9234
@calumobrien9234 6 лет назад
The thing with guitar strings is different strings react differently for everyone. For instance I like Ernie Ball, Gibson and Rotosound strings, but I don't generally like D'Addario (apart from their NYXLs) or Elixir strings because they seem to wear out on me very quickly. I know a lot of people who actually find it's the opposite way around for them and find that D'Addario and Elixirs last them months, and yet last time I used Elixirs, I had worn through the coating within a week. What I've learned from my personal experiences is there is no definitive right or wrong answer to guitar strings because it all just depends on the individual player.
@dennybronwynbennett
@dennybronwynbennett 7 лет назад
Not sure it's the strings fault on this one. Those frets look pretty terrible. The need crowning at least. You didn't mention how old the elixirs are. If they've reached the end of their life, then you'd expect them to react strangely... Don't know. I've used Elixirs before and they sound great, last well, and are stable. I'm thinking the problems may be down to the normal things. Wear and tear. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth. Keep up the channel mate. I love watching the circuit diagnosis stuff. Interesting.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Strings less than a week old. lasted 3 jam sessions. The frets are typical for what you see in Chinese imports. They routinely level frets and polish, skipping the crowning procedure to save money, BUT that doesn't mean the frets are "bad" or "terrible" or "sharp" as many commenters have suggested, it just means they aren't pretty and round on top. No tool marks, no serrations or roughness on the frets. If they were, I would have dressed them. I have all the tools for it.
@themroogieboogieman6283
@themroogieboogieman6283 7 лет назад
The Guitologist bad strings send video and strings back to elixir and get free strings
@evanwilliams8908
@evanwilliams8908 7 лет назад
Been using elixirs for years and I have never seen them fray like that before. How old are those strings!
@DerEchteBold
@DerEchteBold 7 лет назад
He wrote on another comment that these strings were less than a week old.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Less than a week. The player is an aggressive (and accomplished) blues player. He attacks his strings and obviously bends a lot on the G-string. The problem is a known issue I've seen many times in the past.
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar
@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar 7 лет назад
Use an unwound G string if you like to bend. The problem is not the brand of string ;)
@dubsbitch24
@dubsbitch24 7 лет назад
The Guitologist dude I play heavy blues and metal sat with my guitar for hours in weeks and never had this happen I call bullshit or those frets suck been using elixir for ten years now and never had this happen
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 2 года назад
Let me play ONE pass of Classical Gas after I just cut my fingernails. You'll need a string change.
@bronzesnake7004
@bronzesnake7004 3 года назад
I was a-frayed this would happen. OH! BOOM! I'm here all week folks, thanks for coming out! Jack ~'()'~ Canada
@bldlightpainting
@bldlightpainting 7 лет назад
I love my mine! They help give that wonderful Tone and feel my Taylor came with from the factory.
@xxbrkdwnxx
@xxbrkdwnxx 7 лет назад
i don't like elixirs either.. but honestly, as a fellow technician, I have NEVER removed strings then tried to put them back on. it's not worth the hassle most the time and they never seem to sound right after being reapplied. just put fresh strings on. even if they're a little expensive (like elixirs, jesus christ) your tone will thank you.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
I put them back on at the request of the customer, but they still should not fray like that. Not something I'd expect from a $15 set of guitar strings.
@michaelkaliski7651
@michaelkaliski7651 7 лет назад
If ever you take strings off, put new ones back on. No problems then.
@robertbull6895
@robertbull6895 7 лет назад
Clearly a manufacturing defect/bad batch and should be returned. In the warm, humid climate of Brisbane, the coated Elixirs cope with sweat and skin grease and do not rust or break down the coating. They maintain their full tones multiple times longer than non coated making them good value for money. Have not tried D'Addario as their coated strings appear more expensive here.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Not a manufacturing defect. This is what Elixirs do if you play heavy blues and bend with vibrato a lot on that G string, particularly.
@headknocker8999
@headknocker8999 7 лет назад
I've had the same results as Brad with these strings.. If you're a bender buy something/anything else.. Or just play chords & don't bend.. ROCK ON!! Gary/Hk
@billrowse2266
@billrowse2266 7 лет назад
Robert Bull I'm also living in Brisbane and couldn't agree more.
@Skinny_Karlos
@Skinny_Karlos 7 лет назад
I'm an Aussie too though I live on the Central Coast just north of Sydney and I have had nothing but positive experiences with Elixer strings, especially the polywebs. I would never go back to uncoated strings after the extra life, tune and playability of these strings. I'm in my early fifties now and I only wish that they had been available thirty years earlier though I'm glad that they're here now as I still perform and have never had one break on me; not once and, as I'm sure you'll agree, when playing and bending for hours on stage that knowledge that the strings will hold gives one confidence.
@barbasbandas6665
@barbasbandas6665 7 лет назад
This happened to me in my electric with Ernie Balls 2221 on the D string (lots of bends)
@paulwilson525
@paulwilson525 6 лет назад
Would never use anything but elixir strings. Simply replace them. They sound better than any other strings!
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 4 года назад
Lol the worst sound ever XD metallic hollow pipe vibrations
@d0ppi034
@d0ppi034 3 года назад
@@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 as a electric guitar player, I can say that When unplugged they may sound metallic, but pluged the sound just goes away, and the feel amazing while playing for sure
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 3 года назад
@@d0ppi034 not in a slightest.
@kenz2756
@kenz2756 3 года назад
@@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 Oh, i guess you must hate it even more than i thought then lol. Something personal between you and elixir?
@angryperson420
@angryperson420 7 лет назад
Try polishing the nasty flat topped frets before you blame the strings ...
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
It isn't the frets.
@angryperson420
@angryperson420 7 лет назад
look at the fret top at the right of the image (2:30) those square fret tops should have been rounded when it was dressed .. the hard edge is going to aggravate any string wear issues.
@dubsbitch24
@dubsbitch24 7 лет назад
Angry Person don't bother he knows it all even how hard people play their one fucking instrument those frets are shit just like this video
@valebliz
@valebliz 4 года назад
@@TheGuitologist yup, it's you, a moron
@Skinny_Karlos
@Skinny_Karlos 7 лет назад
Avoid Elixer strings at your own loss. Loss of tone, loss of length of remaining in proper tune, loss of playability and loss of length of string life overall. The Polyweb Elixer string coating is better than the Nanoweb but like any man made item it DOES have a 'lifespan',(your video did not mention how long those strings had been on the instrument before it arrived on your door, but just by looking at that string I'd say quite some time) and not even coated strings will last forever. I have no agenda, no affiliation with Elixer or any reason to promote these strings other than my own experience with them and they, in my opinion DO justify the slight extra cost with all the benefits I outlined earlier. It is a simple experiment (to purchase and use them) and a small price for one's own assessment of the item.
@jaycheek254
@jaycheek254 6 лет назад
Epi Phone You are correct! I just installed them on my Tele. They killed the tone and I had to double the action to drop out the buzz. I'm going back to the greatest strings ever - NYXL!
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 2 года назад
A thing does not need to be man-made to have a lifespan. All things have one.
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 7 лет назад
I COAT MY STRINGS WITH YACK FUR - SMOOTH, EASY TO PLAY, AND THEY LAST AT LEAST THRITY FIVE YEARS!
@Ikillintel1
@Ikillintel1 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 3 года назад
@@Ikillintel1 :^)
@antonellovanni
@antonellovanni 5 лет назад
Never happened to me in 20 years with elixir
@retiresoon5639
@retiresoon5639 7 лет назад
Your buddy needs to replace his strings more often. I have not experienced what you are. Sounds like good old fashion fret buzz to me. LOL.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
He only used for 2 rehearsals and one show. The video shows before and after strings change. Even with a crusty old 1970s string, there's no buzz.
@midenking9651
@midenking9651 7 лет назад
The Guitologist you admitted there was buzz...
@Killerkeister
@Killerkeister 6 лет назад
TuningSociety West He's talking about there being no buzz with 1970s string
@metallitech
@metallitech 7 лет назад
This is a pretty silly video because it misinforms people. I've just run to check my one set of Polywebs, which I've been playing on hard for maybe three years. Not even a trace of fraying at the frets.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
It does not misinform. This player is an aggressive blues player and these strings are not old. You either do not play the guitar much or you play it lightly. For you, the Polywebs work ok. For me, and for this customer, this happens.
@mileswilliams4807
@mileswilliams4807 5 лет назад
@@TheGuitologist Yeah but you left out the part where those frets were in bad shape.
@guanweihe7614
@guanweihe7614 4 года назад
Love my elixirs, that set must have been used for years man, of course it’s gonna look like that
@RyanKirbyInks
@RyanKirbyInks 7 лет назад
This video is pretty old, but I just wanted to point out (as others have done) that those frets are in bad shape. I'm not sure if someone spot leveled them and didn't recrown the frets, or if it's just uneven fret wear from vibrato on certain (common frets). Either way, a flat fret is going to generate buzz on its own because it has a wider contact point than a properly crowned fret. Not only that, but it throws your intonation off. If it is flat from uneven fret wear and not from a lazy fret job, then those lower frets are going to cause even more fret buzz: buzz at the flattened fret, and buzz at the next fret higher due to the lower height of the worn fret. Also, worn frets tend to tear of Polyweb strings as the surface of the fret is not smooth. Level those frets. Dress them. Then give them a good polish and a lot of those issues will go away with the Elixers. I've never heard the coating wearing off generate that much fret buzz as the coating doesn't have that much mass. It will throw off the resonance of the string slightly which may cause it oscillate funny and possibly buzz (but I have not personally experienced this). The fraying does cause some really odd overtones, though. When I used to use poly webs, I would change them once they started to feel "fuzzy" at the first sign of any fraying which was normally after a month. I play with wide vibrato (1-2 whole tone vibrato) and very wide bends (2-3 step bends) on electric and have never had them fray to that extent. Then again. I touch up my frets whenever any flat spots or uneven wear appears. I also keep them polished regularly using micromesh and/or Flitz at the first sign of tarnish.
@gameoftones77
@gameoftones77 7 лет назад
Am I the only one who sees that you did all that work and put an old set of strings back on the guitar? If you can spring for a piezo pickup and the tech work to do it, put a new set of strings on it. Problem solved.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Yes, you're the only one. A new set of strings!?!??! Why didn't I think of that???
@gameoftones77
@gameoftones77 7 лет назад
Well, why didn't you?
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Obviously, after discovering this massive flaw in the strings, I did put on a new set. The owner of the guitar asked me to save the strings if I could because they were not old, so I was following the wishes of my customer, not putting on old strings because I was lazy or dumb or a bad guitar tech. It really would be interesting to see what would happen if know-it-all's would stop and think before opening their mouths to state the blatantly obvious. It's like dealing with 3-year-olds.
@gameoftones77
@gameoftones77 7 лет назад
face it dude, you got called out for being an idiot. Calling people who follow your page 3-year olds is going to do less for you than doing the right thing for your customer. I also dont buy it that your customer had the money for a new Piezo pickup- the whole install, but not 15 dollars for new strings.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
You don't "buy it"? Buddy, I don't give a hot damn what you "buy". I'm not here to impress you. Don't like this channel, get lost. I do not need your approbation.
@DestressYourMind
@DestressYourMind 7 лет назад
A toggle switch on an acoustic guitar with a piezo pickup is a very bad combination. Every time you switch it ON, the pickup would pick that "click" sound as well. And that is annoying. If you absolutely needed to add a cut-off switch a "push-to-on" switch would have been a better option. I could be wrong, but this setup didn't work for me.
@williamroark4760
@williamroark4760 7 лет назад
I'm gonna have to vote for 'bad batch" also. I've used Elixir strings on my acoustics for the past 16 years. More specifically, #16027 Phosphor Bronze Nanoweb, in the Custom Light gauge. I've seen the coating wear out, if I've been too lazy to change my strings, but I've never seen them come apart. Sometimes I change my *new* strings after a hard gig, and other times, I may change them once a month. It just depends on how much I play, and what the environment is like at that particular point in time. If I ever take them off though, I put on a new set. It's as simple as that. Those frets look terrible. You can clearly see nicks and sharp edges, where the crown has been worn down from playing. Don't bash good strings because of a damaged instrument. Leveling and recrowning the frets, and a proper setup (nut, truss rod, AND, not only, a bridge adjustment) would solve the majority of your friend's issues. And, I can't help but add, if your friend can afford a $100+- pickup, have it installed, and can't afford to change the strings at the same time; and if you did the work, as a luthier (hobby or professional), and didn't replace the strings during the job, you both need to find something else to do with your time. I'm not saying Elixir strings are the best, and I'm not saying that everyone should use them. All I'm saying is that under normal conditions, I've never personally seen anyone have that type of failure with them. Repair the instrument back to its original condition, and you can use whatever strings you like, without issue. Or don't, that's between the two of you. Don't, however, give bad information because your friend "cheaped-out", and blamed the strings for a poor maintenance issue. There are a lot of beginner, and experienced, people that watch these videos, and now might not try these strings, that could have potentially fell in love with them. They personally helped me when I was just starting out, because regular strings killed my unseasoned fingers, and the coating on the Elixirs made playing easier. If it weren't for these strings, I may not have pursued this interest as much as I did, and I might have missed out on the joys of learning to play. People can take what I've said with a grain of salt. I'm not a professional, I just do it for the love of music. I'm sure though that a lot of people will agree with what I've said. I'm getting off of my soapbox now. If you've made it this far, thanks for reading this, and happy playing!
@godbyone
@godbyone Год назад
Thank you I lost a lot of respect for him on this video
@tacoconch7678
@tacoconch7678 6 лет назад
I'm surprised more guitarists haven't heard of naptha. It's great at cleaning guitar strings. It's found in most lighter fluids. I use it to clean my strings after I play and it makes quick work of sweat, grime and the black funk that plagues your strings.
@Danarmb
@Danarmb 5 лет назад
Hi, Brad. I have been using the Nanowebs for years and have never seen this until my current set. I gig 2 to 3 times a week and change my strings once at the beginning of summer and once at the onset of winter. I play solo acoustic. My current guitar is a new Yamaha. I will be curious to see if this problem continues on this guitar (maybe the newer frets are sharper) or if Elixir made some changes in the manufacturing process or materials. I enjoy your videos!
@mikemagnum7987
@mikemagnum7987 7 лет назад
Groovy Music Lessons' Scott Grove is the guitar guy that got me using Elixir "Polyweb" coated strings on my acoustic guitar. He plays about any kind of music one can ask for on guitar, but specializes in Country. I bring this up because he has a chemistry that ruins strings in 15 minutes and swears by Elixir Polyweb strings! Well, I went ahead and put a set of Polywebs on my guitar and I have to admit, I like them and for over a year, those strings look and play as if they were brand new! Being somewhat skeptical at first, I would periodically inspect the wear areas of the strings with a 16x loupe that I use in my rock hounding and the coating is holding up with minimal signs of wear. Scott did mention that heavy metal or grunge players would probably be hard on coated strings and not get the longevity out of them that they might with playing other types of music! I think your video shows that Scott was right about that. At any rate, I'll keep using Elixir Polyweb guitar strings and you guys can rock on cuz that is what its all about my friends, rockin on..............
@gwag8410
@gwag8410 4 года назад
I use Elixer strings on my Taylor GS series . I’ve had my strings start to fray but only after a lot of use. I just put on a new set. They really sound good on my guitar, but I’m open to using other strings as well. I try to stay open minded..
@ctrymusicfan8880
@ctrymusicfan8880 5 лет назад
I like the Di Adario Bronze lights. Been using them for years. "Happiness is; an acoustic guitar with new strings".
@jordanmayer5932
@jordanmayer5932 6 лет назад
I take back what I said, but just for the acoustic strings, bought 4 packs of elixir's, each g string frayed exactly like his in this video over a relatively short period of time, the electric guitar strings are a lot more stable and well made I guess, but yeah the acoustic ones I find are worse than uncoated d'addario's
@audan2006
@audan2006 3 года назад
Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that he filmed this in ultra HD and was as succinct as possible
@jeremyallen3448
@jeremyallen3448 6 лет назад
0:32 loose screw laying on the work bench. Makes me nervous.
@waynedavies2258
@waynedavies2258 7 лет назад
Yo bro.I have been a Luthier for 40 years.from England and I,m totally with you on this.I have had people come to me with same old problem.I have also had to do total fret dress because of the damage they have done on some guitars.keep up good work.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Absolutely. Many times I've done fret dressings on guitars where the frets looked literally serrated and just chewed up ANY string, not just Elixir. This wasn't really one of those instances, it was, in this case, a matter of the player being a really aggressive blues/rock player and he just ate these up with excessive bends and vibrato. Super expressive player + Elixir polyweb = this.
@HendrixRipoff
@HendrixRipoff 5 лет назад
People come in with buzzing issues without thinking to change their strings first?
@PelleKuipers
@PelleKuipers 7 лет назад
Completely depends on what kind of playing style you have. Friend of mine bought brand new Elixer strings and broke 3 in one gig! I've bought a set and after more than 2 months they are starting to show enough wear for me to think about replacing them. I however, have quite a light touch. So yeah I get what you are saying but it does depends on the player. I've had D'addario's before but I'm sticking to the Elixers as they are nice and bright with good lows as well.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
I'll go along with that. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
@PelleKuipers
@PelleKuipers 7 лет назад
Also props for giving the video a normal title (i.e. no ELIXIR STRINGS SUCK or an equivalent of that).
@kenz2756
@kenz2756 3 года назад
I use elixir strings, but for me it only frays (i assume 'fray' means peel off) at the picking area, not the fingerboard area.
@Louisiana1975
@Louisiana1975 7 лет назад
I haven't found anything better than Elixir as of yet. And my strings have never frayed before. Weird. If you know of a better quality acoustic string brand, I would love to know. Thank you for your videos
@reverendmississippi
@reverendmississippi 6 лет назад
Martin life span sp are better just but ekexir are good
@howabouthetruth2157
@howabouthetruth2157 3 месяца назад
I read your post script in the comments below first. I'm also one of those guys with a PH that utterly destroys strings in a very short amount of time. For 10 years, ( from 1991 through 2001 ) I was a member of an acoustic duo, and we gigged hard every week ( typical 4 hr, 4 set gigs ), usually 2 to 3 dates a week. My partner was the lead guitarist, as I held down the main rhythm & melody, as well as the majority of lead vocals, as we both harmonized vocals in the choruses. ( Classic rock tunes mostly.) We both use 12's on our acoustic guitars. Even though he often played using heavy blues type string bends ( and even slide guitar where applicable ), he could use the same set of strings for several gigs before replacing. ( We both used UN-coated Martin Marquis strings back then. ) But for me on the other hand, my strings would be trashed after only 1 gig. This was back when the coated Elixir's first came out & became all the rage. I tried them immediately & HATED them. Even though they were 12's, they felt like wimpy rubber bands when tuned to pitch. But nowadays, I am using the D'addario XS coated strings on 3 of 4 of my acoustics. I love their feel, sound, and they far outlast anything else made today. But even these XS strings can't withstand a high open E alternate tuning without breaking fairly soon. A high alternate open tuning like open E tuning is really hard on strings. ( You never "keep the guitar in open E tuning", you have to tune back down after performing a song that uses open E tuning, for obvious reasons...........and this constant re-tuning up & down is abusive to ANY string. ) This is why I use the un-coated GHS Americana strings on one of my acoustic guitars that I use for open E tuning. The GHS Americana strings sound fantastic, are reasonably durable, and they cost far less than any "coated string". Because even the uber-expensive coated strings break fairly soon when used for high open E tuning, I refuse to waste money on those for my guitar used often for open E.
@jimstone6071
@jimstone6071 7 лет назад
When I first started playing the ELIXER strings saved my life in building my calculus
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Perfectly valid. My experience and the experience of my customer won't apply to everyone.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 7 лет назад
Jim Stone what?
@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward
@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward 3 года назад
@@el34glo59 he's a math whiz now
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 2 года назад
@@el34glo59 He meant "callouses", not "calculus".
@RobMods
@RobMods 6 лет назад
I used to work for a large guitar manufacturer and elixirs were ideal for their guitars. Even the cheapest models were over 1000, and they shipped them all over the country. They could hang on guitar shop walls, played by lots of customers, and still sound fresh after months.
@wakinglife7065
@wakinglife7065 Год назад
Yep I see that being the best advantage for elixirs.
@strange_jason
@strange_jason Год назад
not to mention coated strings are super comfortable to play on.
@keithfreeman4015
@keithfreeman4015 5 лет назад
This is not due to the strings...🤦‍♂️
@gearoidwalsh8606
@gearoidwalsh8606 6 лет назад
they're my favourite strings - but on electric rather than acoustic. best tone, and they last a long time without diminishing.
@Viewsk8
@Viewsk8 5 лет назад
Seriously? Elixers have to be some of the best strings out there right now
@triplev1016
@triplev1016 5 лет назад
Likes: 1.2k Dislikes: 1.2k Comments: 1.2k *_perfectly balanced, as all thing should be_*
@marcospintor1333
@marcospintor1333 7 лет назад
Scott Grove would be triggered
@BigEdWo
@BigEdWo 6 лет назад
lol. i actually tried elixirs only because scott recommended them so heavily. i do not regret it though.
@steveshadforth
@steveshadforth 3 года назад
If by that you mean shot at, then great
@froiker
@froiker 2 года назад
Speaking as a guitar restorer the issue here is simple.those strings are fake.Elixir strings do not lose their coating.They are specially made for electro acoustic guitars designed by Taylor. We have strung hundreds of them and are our go to string.I would suggest he sends the strings to Elixir in the states to get a second opinion before making wrong judgements.
@andrewrobert5019
@andrewrobert5019 4 года назад
no way the owner only used them for two practice sessions. That may have been what he told you lol
@satriasamudra306
@satriasamudra306 3 года назад
I used elixir bronze on my acoustic guitar a year ago, but I don't use it now. There are my reason why I don't use it again 1. Elixir bronze acoustic causes my left top finger become be yellow, looks dirty and it is difficult to escape 2. Its coating string on sound hole position is peel off caused pick friction, It is disturb to me 3. The tone durability is not better than string uncoated 4. The string looks good for 3 month, no rusty, but when I look the string that friction with fret I find that the coated is peel off and corroded.
@aahl1680
@aahl1680 7 лет назад
Guitarmod deserves a new set of strings! Period
@BrianWMay
@BrianWMay 7 лет назад
I have a Martin D-28 and a 000-28 and have used Elixirs for the last 9 years, never been a problem.
@dragonoid510
@dragonoid510 7 лет назад
My elixir snapped trying to get it to standard tuning.
@n3dnarbofficial95
@n3dnarbofficial95 3 года назад
I've been playing religiously for 15 years and have used every string, even still try new ones every once in a while when they come out but Elixirs have never done me wrong.
@harrylime5147
@harrylime5147 5 лет назад
You try to point out something you think people should know about. And you get slammed. That only proves the saying, no good deed goes unpunished
@smacman68
@smacman68 7 лет назад
I am not one to promote or demote any brand or type of gear. Very rarely is that kind of advice fact based, more often than not it is preference and opinion, and no one can tell you what to like or dislike. But sometimes I will discover something that comes along and I feel the need to share my opinion so that others can avoid a lot of trial and error. And this time it is about a new string. On advice from a fellow guitarist, I tried the DiAddario NYXL strings. I like the feel and playability of light gauge strings (008-038) but the Ernie Ball and others just sound thin, weak and tinny. I tried the NYXL in 008-038 and found both solid, powerful sounding strings that are super easy to bend and chords are easier to get my fingers on. Again, that is my personal opinion, but I feel like most would agree. They're a little salty to buy ($12 a set) but will last as long as you want them to last.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
I have not tried those yet. I had a huge stash of EXP D'Addarios at the time they came out with those, so I've been using up old stock first, butnever had an issue with D'Addario. 8 gauge is a bit light for me. Too slinky for my taste. Billy Gibbons apparently uses 8 gauge, so obviously some good tone can come from them.
@braveguide
@braveguide 7 лет назад
Just change the strings and quit complaining. And "Down here it magicly stops buzzing." He is using strings from the 70's, DEAR LORD HELP US ALL.
@kevinbrowne9408
@kevinbrowne9408 5 лет назад
,,,,but it was close to the same guage,,,,,😄
@GuitarMooseMusic
@GuitarMooseMusic 4 года назад
I just bought a new acoustic with EXP coated D’Addario strings. Upon close inspection of the strings as I was adjusting the truss rod to get the neck straightened up and get rid of fret buzz, I saw small rust spots on them over the sound hole. When I can get to my local guitar store I’m going to buy my Ernie Ball strings.
@TheSwatmachine
@TheSwatmachine 7 лет назад
Wow, why would anyone play a guitar with strings in this condition? What is wrong with you and your friend?
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
hahaha. Wow.
@ralphvilaga2409
@ralphvilaga2409 6 лет назад
TheSwatmachine lmao exactly! i wonder how does it feels when u slide ur finger on it
@HendrixRipoff
@HendrixRipoff 5 лет назад
I’ve not used their acoustic strings but their electric strings have kept me happy for years and years
@brucenlittlepictures
@brucenlittlepictures 7 лет назад
Elixirs are hand down the best strings I've ever bought. I've tried other coated strings that are on par, but there's no sense in changing to something that's exactly the same. They last significantly longer, they stay in tune, they don't break easily, they feel great in the hands and they're just a great product all around.
@WhiteDove73-888
@WhiteDove73-888 11 месяцев назад
I use them on one guitar a boutique acoustic. I hate them on all my other guitar’s acoustic & electric
@MsDenver2
@MsDenver2 2 года назад
I’ve never had a problem with elixir so I don’t know what the customer was doing as I’ve never had fraying and I’ve used them years
@KingWTFuck
@KingWTFuck 7 лет назад
Totally agree, my friend bought Elixirs and within a few weeks his strings began to fray. Elixirs (from what I've noticed) are shit. I easily fix the problem by buying D'addarios
@markthompsoncpa
@markthompsoncpa Год назад
For the last 10 years I have only used D"Addario phosphor bronze strings. Back then I was trying other brands including Elixer coated strings. My feeling was that the Elixer's sounded great but I would notice the coating getting a little sticky on my finger tips. I also felt that the Elixers were not quite as clear as the D'Addarios, I assume because they are coated. I admit the difference is very, very subtle. As I played more and improved my sound, it got to the point where I was changing my strings more often. Since the price of the Elixers was higher, another reason to stick to the DA'ddarios. I will try the D'Addarios again to see if I change my mind
@liamhunter071
@liamhunter071 7 лет назад
LOL. Your buddy needs to get a new set of strings. Ain't none of them last for ever! Cheap?
@kotymccallister5150
@kotymccallister5150 Год назад
Similar thing happens to uncoated strings when the windings get worn away down to the core, so I don't see problems. If you like the feel and sound of elixirs just replace them when they get worn out. All strings will wear out.
@BigBobbyBoLo
@BigBobbyBoLo 7 лет назад
I used these strings when I first started playing because of the comfort. I had the exact same issues being illustrated here. I haven't used them in years
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
Thank you.
@richardbinder9662
@richardbinder9662 6 лет назад
I've never used Elixer strings nor have any of my friends. Been happy with Ernie Ball for years. I did put set of DR red coated strings on a red Ibanez. Looked cool but little red flakes appeared quickly. I know this about Elixer, but just thought I would relay that.
@pmessinger
@pmessinger 7 лет назад
I don't even play guitar, but any engineer can see that the strings have rotated, displacing the worn spots on the string where it meets the fret. Once you take the strings off and you can't get them back into the same exact position, the fraying is going to be be apparent and disruptive.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
This is true, the strings likely did rotate when replaced back on the guitar. But bending, particularly over-bending notes, and heavy vibrato also rotates strings to a degree, and eventually THIS happens.
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 7 лет назад
I have customers that use them and they have this idea they will last for years. When I tell them the coating splits over a few months they act like I'm crazy. I don't care for Elixer/coated strings at all
@gunscotthdgaming69420
@gunscotthdgaming69420 3 года назад
*Damn those frets are sharper than my kitchen knives*
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 7 лет назад
THE SOUND OF ELIXIR STRINGS ALONE BLOWS !
@PillsBuryDoughBoy_
@PillsBuryDoughBoy_ 5 лет назад
I see you in a lot of Beatles and guitar videos. Also have you forgotten to take off your caps lock? Lmao
@abdielbarraza6193
@abdielbarraza6193 6 лет назад
My elixir strings last me 3 weeks.
@ferdjanklow3566
@ferdjanklow3566 6 лет назад
Pee-AY-zo, Brad. Jesus.
2 года назад
I’m like you, Brad. I have dry hands and not very acidic sweat, seemingly. I don’t usually use Elixirs, but had a set of Optiwebs on a Flying V for ages. Only changed them because the guitar needed a decent set up and fret polish. They were good.
@professoroak2252
@professoroak2252 4 года назад
I use them for years now and this never happened with me. Elixir strings and coated strings in general are a life saver for people with sweaty hands like me. Can't tell you how much it means not to have your strings turn into a rusty unplayable piece of crap in just a week. I'm also not rich or a touring player to change strings every week.
@kevinwilson1124
@kevinwilson1124 7 лет назад
Its an Epiphone. It sounds pretty good, but they rarely polish the frets on their guitars at the factory before shipping. When you do some bending, especially with Elixers, the strings get beat up. Nice smooth frets dont affect Elixers.
@aryinc
@aryinc 7 лет назад
because they suck. never liked them, rather change my strings then play that coated crap. they feel sturdy and i snapped one within a week so i changed back to d'dario.
@toddbeeman5933
@toddbeeman5933 3 года назад
So many comments about the strings.. Do those frets seriously look normal to all of you?? It looks like the frets were leveled and then never recrowned, and definitely not polished. Frets are supposed to have a crowned top to prevent string buzz. A smooth (polished) and properly crowned fret will not eat through the coating on Elixir strings. If there was a proper fret job done on this guitar, the action could be lowered and buzzing wouldn't come into play until they were lowered even more. I don't understand how someone who works on guitars just simply doesn't know any of this?? I really hope this guy has a poorly chosen hobby and isn't screwing up a ton of people's guitars while charging them loads of money. When a musician spends their hard-earned money on their instrument(s), they deserve to be able to get work done that improves the instruments playability, longevity, and quality. His "buddy" needs to find a professional to fix his frets and stay the fuck away from this guy in the future.
@toddjones5382
@toddjones5382 6 лет назад
I use nanoweb strings for several reasons. I go a little overboard with my guitar maintenance routine by micropolishing my frets with supplies I get from a local builder near Toronto Mike Carparelli. He came from another former local builder Lado Guitars. I make my own answer to nut sauce which I make with graphite powder, vasoline and three in one oil. I haven't tried a PTFE variant yet because it hasn't been necessary. I use nanowebs because they work well with strat tremolos reducing nut wear, especially with the nut goop I make. With the frets polished I never see any fraying or chipping of the coating and I really beat the shit out of my main strat with heavy trem use and very pronounced vibrato. There are other pluses too but you know what they are. The other guitars I have I don't feel I need them on as much since they don't have to put up with the abuse as much. Fret jobs also seem to last a bit longer and since I have a tendency to wear out frets, I think it's a good thing. Yes these strings are bright sounding but I mostly play through an Orange head which is pretty dark to begin with. In short, if you have a well polished fret job you won't have that associated problem with the nanowebs as far as I can tell. The other coated types and brands not so much. I hope that helps a bit. Always a pleasure visiting and receiving your input Brad. Cheers.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 7 лет назад
For everyone who thinks about getting elixir strings: The ones who last longer are the polyweb strings. At one point they changed the coating to the worse...later changed it back. Then there was a period where they only coated the wound strings...and changed it back after they pissed off customers. The flaking is weird. I never had that before. But i get suggestions for strings all the time...those black packaged d'addario that should be sooo great. The Cleartones that have some kind of molecular treatment (very thin...so if it doesn't form a new oxide surface, it makes no sense to me...but i may try them in the future. @the guitologist: That chickenpicking around 4:58...is it from a particular song? sounds great.
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson 4 года назад
this never happened to my nanowebs. the only area i ever get fraying is where i pick, and it's a complete non-issue there
@TonyBurke100
@TonyBurke100 Год назад
Yeah I've had the same problem with Elixir strings it's annoying so I use martin titanium core strings.
@LeakeJason
@LeakeJason 7 лет назад
I'm no luthier but I am pretty sure when you take strings all the way off you must replace them. Once strings are locked in place and have stretched that affects the intonation. And clearly we can see the the press marks on the strings are no longer aligned with the frets. But I am with tons of other responses, i have never had this issues with Elixirs, but I practice once a week and play out 2-4 times a week so I go through some strings . And even though they are Elixirs, I still replace them about every 3rd show. The coating protects them merely from my sweat...non coated strings are rusted the next morning at the bridge no matter how much i wipe them down.
@themroogieboogieman6283
@themroogieboogieman6283 7 лет назад
Lol elixir strings are advertised at under the video
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
hahaha...I hadn't noticed. As long as I get my cut. :D
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser 4 года назад
Im surprised new strings were not part of the gig. I would not have done it without replacing them.
@pigdick2233
@pigdick2233 2 года назад
For acoustic saddles you should take a 1/4 inch thick piece of plexiglass and press it behind the saddle and trace that line on the new saddle. That gives you the correct radius and string height when making a new saddle from scratch
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 7 лет назад
From what I have heard about Elixir Polyweb and Nanoweb strings from some other RU-vid channels these strings were most likely Nanowebs. The claims were that the Polyweb strings are better than Nanoweb. Nanoweb strings reportedly have problems with the coating starting coming off while the Polyweb strings don't have that problem.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 7 лет назад
No. These were Polywebs. I found out later. The only difference is the Polywebs are coated AFTER the string is wound while the Nanowebs are coated on the brass or nickel windings and then then it's wound around the steel core. I've also seen other RU-vidrs tout Elixers as some miracle strings that you can leave on "forever". I literally heard one notable RU-vidr say that, and I had to belly laugh when I heard that shit...and from someone who admitted he'd gotten a boatload of free strings from them. It's nonsense. Anyone who has played Elixers and given them a truly critical analysis knows they don't last forever, they ALL fray, most notably in the picking area and above the frets, and on acoustics, they do attenuate treble frequencies. The effect isn't that pronounced until you A/B them on the same guitar, but it's true. And it's undeniable they are far more expensive than a typical uncoated set of strings. But judging by comments here and elsewhere, they have achieved a frankly undeserved cult status based on bullshit spewed from know-it-alls who don't even allow critical comments on their RU-vid posts.
@b1j
@b1j 2 года назад
Did I hear that right: "I put the strings back on..." You reused a set of strings? I have never done that. When I take a string off, a new one goes on. Chances are that the release in tension and then re-tension is what perturbed the coating.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 2 года назад
The customer asked me to put them back on.
@jamesnewton485
@jamesnewton485 4 года назад
The problem is you put the "strings back on". The strings were already stretched then you took them off. The strings like most things that stretch relaxed and tried to go back to their original length. They were then put back on and stretched again. This will cause the coating to do exactly what we see in the video. It would be like wrapping plastic wrap around a piece of rubber thats been stretched then allowing the rubber to go back to its original form. The plastic wrap will tear and bunch up. Obviously the elixir coating wont bunch up but it will tear.
@fallingxshadow
@fallingxshadow 5 лет назад
I doubt anybody could use a pack of uncoated strings for a year without having any problem like you claim. I know you want to prove a point because of the negative feedback on your video but it’s physically impossible. Anyhow, nice playing bud!
@Fogertian
@Fogertian 2 года назад
I got the same issue .... with average acoustic strings .... without any coat .... I moded my Epi Acoustic so the strings are louder with long sustain ... some friends call it the "acoustic-electric" guitar. The issue is the same as you pointed out here .... but with the wrapping wire on the G string. All the string "separates" the wrapping wire in segments just like the fretboard ... after a week .... no matter what I do, the issue is the same, you can feel with your nail under the string those cuts in the G string. I have to change it because of the BIG annoying buzz. I tried to change to a flat string, but the bridge is not filed for flat G string. This issue is because of augmented vibrations that G string can't stand. Frets are ok, no edgy frets all along the fretboard. This is something that ONLY happened AFTER my mod. When I bought it, everything was ok. After 5 years ... G string was ok. One more thing: When I play single notes or I bend notes 1/2 ... 1 ... 1 1/2 up .... my guitar sounds like an electric guitar .... like if had delay on it, looooong sustain man, and there's no preamp or gadgets on it .... pure acoustic tone ..... with electric guitar sustain. Hope to upload a video soon so you can hear it. Cheers !
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