@dragon me neither. I mean I don’t think they’ll ever go away just like vinyl never fully went away but it would be nice to have artists get more creative with CD packaging or actually make a cd release (Looking at you bandcamp artists)
Once the vinyl fad wears thin, They are gonna continue to push the digital streaming all the way and kill off CDs for good. All future music people buy will be in the 'cloud'.. (Does any current automobile even comes with a cd player?) . However when that .com collapse finally occurs (whenever that is), there goes ur music...and possibly anything else u entrusted the 'cloud' with
@smarts hello there✌ that's my preferred method, buying CDs and then ripping them as mp3. I just started with vinyl, but I'll hold onto CDs as well. Oh and what I like to do in general: disconnect my phone frome the internet👌😁
I don't understand the meaning of the cd today. Do you want a physical copy? Vinyl is much bigger, beautiful and fascinating, the covers are small paintings. Do you think he feels better digitally? Use streaming which is more convenient and cheaper than the cd. Help me to understand why someone should buy CDs in 2022 instead of using Spotify and buying vinyls.
Cds wont go away, this new garbage aint selling & wont last. If you have 200 great cds, are you going to buy them again as a download. Did you know cds are still selling better thandownloads. If you have a collection of cds, you have all you wont. Thats why new cds aint selling. Cds sound better than downloads. Too much wiring on computers screws up the sound. These 24 bit fdiles dont sound as good as cds. These new dacs dont sound as good. These old r2r dacs sound better than new dacs.
I am personally a CD only guy. Convenient, durable, the sound is a perfect replica, you can easily listen to them litteraly anywhere, it's more affordable, there's more artwork with booklets and all, but most importantly you can buy everything on CD; including so many of my favorite albums which are exclusively on CD.
@@benjaminmoloy7163 Whilst on vinyl, it's commonly known that you own the band, the instruments etc. I'm gonna spin a Katy Perry's record right away, because I want her to sick my duck.
@@benjaminmoloy7163 Nope. You got the booklet and stuff. So what about vinyl? It's also just a piece of polyvinyl chloride with a music pressed on it. What's your point? Edit : and i love any kind of physical music media. Including vinyl
Ive been meaning to do a video on how some music collectors are doing it for the wrong reasons. Sure, they are allowed to have their preferences and i respect that. But when they act like they are high and mighty for only collecting vinyl, and acting like cds are below them is just fucking rediculous.
They legit don’t “sound better” all formats unless one from past times is 99% of the time pressed from digital formats it makes no sense that’s why they sound new ones sound so bad compared to old ones.
I owned a Record Shop in Connecticut (not that this makes me an expert, just for background) from 1978-1996. CDs virtually changed the landscape overnight. The store went from all vinyl to all CD within a period of weeks because that is what the public demanded. They demanded it because the sound was superior. That was common thought back in the day. As far as today’s love affair with vinyl..to each his own.
Good insight mate. But whats your personal opinion as a record store owner on the quality of both leaving aside the cover art etc, just the sound of the music?
What was the name of the store? I lived in Connecticut from 1970-1993. My favorites were Rhymes and Cutlers in New Haven. Capital records in Hartford (short-lived collectors paradise) and Integrity N Music on Silas Deane. Connecticut has some good ones now too - Red Scroll, Elm City, etc
Just noticed your name - Uncle Jim's, right on Main st east Hartford / Glastonbury townline. Cleanest independent record store I ever went to. Went there occasionally from 84ish till 93, when I moved to Florida. You still had a lot of 70s sealed vinyl cheap well into the 90s on the back wall. I got a Hall and Oates H20 picture disc there, a Paul Dianno import picture disc there, (those were used and had a price sticker that looked like they originally came from Record Breaker in Manchester) and a still sealed Stories - about us. Circa 1990, got my Hothouse Flowers Home longbox CD there. Probably a lot more, but that's what I remember.
I bought vinyl right through the '70s & 80s. Sold them all when CDs came out & never regretted it. Vinyl is so cumbersome and inconvenient, and CDs are more neat & aesthetically pleasing I find. They sound just fine to me. Baffles me how vinyl is back in vogue.
@@jnagarya519 . That distortion causes warmth, I have both vinyl and CD's still prefer CD's, they sound better have artwork just as vinyl records, and also take less space to store them.
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I bought my first CD as a teenager in 1986, and I never looked back. I can certainly understand why someone would want to listen to vinyl records, but for me the added expense, and lack of convenience doesn't make much sense in 2019. I know for some people they are nostalgic, but so is the CD for me as I play my collection on vintage early '90s equipment. As for sound quality that is so subjective. Either can sound fantastic. So that argument is pretty much a waste of time. The CD though for me gives me something tangible that I can hold on to. So it satisfies that need of physical interaction, and something collect and store on a shelf. On the flip side it is also easily converted to other modern digital formats, which is important for taking your music on the go with today's devices. Converting a vinyl record collection on the other hand is not very practical. I see the CD as the bridge between the old and the new. I think when the latest vinyl craze dies down a lot of people are going to be upset that they let their CDs go, and you will see a CD resurgence in another 10 years or so.
Been a CD- collector since 1988. It’s my format. It works for me. I’m not anti Vinyl at all but I agree with you about the sound. I also still want a physical product. Thanks for the video!
Being old enough to have seen 78s, 45s, LPs, EPs, tapes and CDs, I know which I prefer:: CDs every time! For me CDs have a much better sound, they take up less room to store, and you can put several in the player at one time and listen for as long as you like without having to fiddle with a turntable. No having to get up and down to turn over the LP. Having to be so careful that you don't scratch the record if you want to repeat a track. All done with the touch of a button with CDs. I can still play the LPs I have had for years, but have updated many of them to CDs. Aside from all of that there is only 6 or so tunes one one side of an LP. Also they are way too expensive. The only good thing about them was the nice covers - particularly when I could gaze at a nice big picture of Elvis when playing the disc.
I only collect cds myself and for the same reasons as you said. I do like to find original pressings of which a lot are rare and worth decent money. I have about 5,500 original cd albums. Also if I started collecting vinyl now it would cost me a fortune.
@E. O. I tend to just use Windows Media Player to rip CDs. I usually rip them to waves when I want to put them on my Sony Walkman. If I want to put an entire discography of a band on the Walkman I might simply download them as mp3s as it's quicker and easier than ripping them myself.
I collect cds more than other formats also. I have a huge collection that most people dont understand. But they’re great for all of those same reasons u give. Subscribed
Yup, I think I pretty-much agree with everything here... except the love of those jewel cases - the most common designs often create plastic shrapnel next to the CD surface. On a really positive note, CDs are hugely out-of-fashion with the in-crowd so there are some really great deals to be had. Get ahead of the CD resurgence coming in 2028 and start buying now.
Great video, Ben. I pretty much agree with all the things you said. If I'm driving around obviously I need a cd or cassette and at the house it kind of depends on the mood I'm in and what else I have going on. I still usually consider owning an album on vinyl to kind of be an honor. There is something about the fragility of the medium that kind of lends itself to that feeling. It makes it feel even more like a precious and sacred thing to be treasured if that makes sense. If I really want to fully immerse myself in every way possible into the ritual of the music I will probably grab a record. When it comes to albums I'm more likely to want to jump around on (hip hop albums are a good example) I'll almost always go for the cd. Ultimately I'll buy an album on whatever medium an artist puts it out on as long as it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg. I personally love all 3 options
Well said! The reasons why CD dosent sell so much these days is because every major & minor artist over the last 60 years already has their entire back catalogue out on CD, some often several times over the years on various 'Anniversary' or 'Super Deluxe' editions. So the vast majority of people already have them. Those that dont can buy second hand copies on ebay etc that play as good as a brand new copy. So theres no big rush to put out CDs like there has been the previous 30 or so years. Also todays modern artists are more bothered about downloads & streaming. They jump on the 'Vinyl Revival' craze because its the latest gimmick. All the old artists are re-releasing their back catalogue on vinyl because they see ANOTHER way of making even MORE money on OLD recordings that most people already own!!! This vinyl revival will soon dye out. Its just a fad. 99% of recordings these days are made digitally anyway & most vinyl re-releases of 'old' recordings are from a digital re-master made for CDs as the analog tapes are long gone! So in essence they are buying a CD pressed on to vinyl! Your example about the record cover is spot on. I Do miss the 12'' cover on 'some' albums but at the end of the day I'd rather have crystal clear sound & lots of longer or extra tracks because listening is all about the music not looking at a cover. Vinyl is the Vampire of music media, it died once & now it needs a stake through the heart so its dead once and for all!!! (Please dont get me started on cassettes!)
I knew a "metal" guy at my old workplace (NOT a friend) who didn't own a single physical cd/lp/tape album of any sort but had multiple thousands of downloads - and he boasted how he never pays for music. I think he viewed me as some "dumb dinosaur" that still bought vinyl and cds. So these days I'm happy that people still get it and are for buying and collecting physical media to show support for the bands and labels. Besides, collecting cds/lp/tapes is fun regardless which format is your favorite. That said, I do agree with other comments that too many modern pressings of LPs are warped and/or not made properly. That doesn't help the argument for vinyl. Cheers.
I was on a vinyl kick for a little and I was really set on just getting vinyls but it’s just so expensive and fragile. Yes I LOVE the vinyl that I have and I do enjoy the whole experience that comes with playing vinyl but CDs as you said are better in many different ways and I could get 4 -5 new cds for the price of one vinyl! Or I could run to the discount bin and get 10-20 cds for the price of one vinyl. That says it all right there.
Good point, Carlito. Most of us are not excited on paying far more for recorded music medium. however, I also listen to records, and cassettes, as well; especially if it is the recording that is available.
May I ask where you buy your CDs from? Where I live, new CDs are around $10 and new vinyl records are around $20. If I could buy 4 - 5 new CDs for the price of vinyl, I would primarily buy CDs
You raise such a huge point: I can raid the 4 CDs-for-ten-bucks bin at my local record shop and leave with 50 songs. Or, I can buy a new vinyl LP for twice the price. When push comes to shove and I'm spinning tunes at 1 AM by myself after a few too many drinks (lol) I'm CDs all the way!
I stayed away from collecting vinyl because I remember my dad telling me that he grinded his Led Zeppelin records into dust. I thought, "Woah... you only get a limited use from them?" To someone who grew up with cassettes, I definitely appreciate the durability of CDs as long as you take minor care or them. Not to mention how easy it is to rip them.
@@jnagarya519 the difference is clearly noticeable in an hifi system. With earbuds not noticeable. So it's smart to buy CDs and listen to them at home and rip mp3 to listen on your car or with your smartphone during training or during commuting, on the train, bus, underground...
You are absolute correct about vinyl not reproducing the full dynamic range that is possible on a compact disc. The problem is not the format itself, it is the mastering technique. It is a case-by-case situation regarding whether a vinyl or a CD sounds better. For albums from the 90s and backwards, vinyl will typically sound better but not for the overused "analog vs. digital" argument. They typically sound better because the CDs from the 1980s and 1990s typically did not have very good conversion jobs. The reason why some albums in the 2000s and the 2010s sound better on vinyl also is not because of the "analog vs. digital" argument (especially considering most albums are recorded digitally nowadays), it is because of the amount of compression of the CD and the vinyl happened to have a dedicated vinyl master. Even then, not all vinyl gets the vinyl mastering treatment for new albums and reissues. In the comments section of this review for The Flesh Prevails by Fallujah album, Zack Ohren explains how he was not aware that Kingdom of Conspiracy by Immolation was even released on vinyl and was not approached by Nuclear Blast to make a dedicated vinyl master. www.angrymetalguy.com/fallujah-the-flesh-prevails-prevails-review-of-the-dr10-master/ At this point, the CD format SHOULD always be better than vinyl, but it's up to the mastering job, whether the CDs are compressed enough, and whether the vinyl has a legitimate vinyl master to make an accurate comparison. Essentially, vinyl is not objective "better" from a technical standpoint. At times, it happens to be "better" than CDs but not inherently because it's vinyl, it's because some vinyl albums have a better master than the CD. Most of my collection is CD-oriented. I'll buy vinyl here and there but I mostly collect CDs for many of the reasons you mentioned and more. From a technical standpoint, the one format that can objectively be argued as the best that I am aware of is 5.1 surround sound mix.
Thanks for the opportunity. I was a little half-cocked with that stupid statement of mine, and actually agree with a lot of what you said. You're quite correct in what you say about the mastering. In terms of mastering for vinyl, there's probably a dozen folks on the planet who understand what they're doing. In my country there's one, maybe two if you count Alberts. The big problem for CD is not its ability to reproduce but in the mastering. Like photography, everyone now thinks they can do it and many potentially great recordings are destroyed by an overwhelming desire to make everything sound loud. A great example for me is the band Muse. While I quite enjoy their early albums I find the production gives me a headache after 30 seconds. Live they are no problem. As with everything there are examples that contradict everything both you and I have said. There's a RU-vid going around comparing flac CD and vinyl of the same recording using the not inconsiderable talents of Terry Bozzio and Tony Levin. It's long and very dynamic. I listened to this video over and over, blind, on all kinds of equipment and had it on constantly so I could drop in and out at any time, not knowing which version I was listening to. Finally, I firmed up on a conclusion as to which version I preferred. FWIW, it was the CD.
@@DC-js4gk When comparing CD to vinyl, everything is case by case. There are times when the CD is better and times when the vinyl is better. The mastering is what determines whether a CD sounds good or not. If an album gets released on vinyl, if it has crummy mastering, it will sound exceptionally crummy. A lot of modern vinyl doesn't sound particularly great because they don't have dedicated vinyl masters. I'm always very skeptical when buying an album on vinyl. Pretty much anything Rick Rubin produces nowadays is bound to sound horrendous. It's fitting you mentioned Muse considering they actually talked negatively about Rubin. There's a reason the Guitar Hero version of Death Magnetic sounds infinitely better than the CD version. The mastering on the CD stinks on ice. Like I said, everything is case by case. I love both CDs and vinyl, but if a vinyl sounds like crap, I will likely avoid it. If a CD sounds like crap, well... it's pretty much expected at this point because the loudness wars are still in effect. Some vinyl reissues sound better than the CDs, though. My vinyl reissue of Reinventing the Steel by Pantera (I give you full permission to make fun of me) sounds unbelievably better and more dynamic than the CD version because it was actually taken from the original master tapes and given a vinyl master.
@@BurntOfferings138 Yeah. Sorry thought you was the OP. I was recently listening to HD versions of Heartbreaker by Zep and a couple of semesters on vinyl. There's a single Bonzo drum beat at around 30 sec that's isolated. Sounds terrible on every version except the 1969 analog vinyl! Yessirree percussive sounds are often found out on digital versions for some reason. Too bright not woody enough. It's something very hard to pin down
I prefer vinyl, but I love CDs as well. It’s just expensive. You can get into CDs on the cheap...a CD transport into a decent DAC (possibly the one on your receiver/integrated?), some speakers and your good. But to get that same quality out of vinyl is, a lot of stuff. You need a decent table with a good cartridge, good stylus, and a phono stage. Not to mention all the upkeep & cleaning.
So glad to know I’m not the only one who still loves CD’s the best! Vinyl looks cool for the bigger artwork and if it’s a colored album or picture disc, but come on: we all know it’s only popular again because of hipsters. CD’s were all we listened to in the 90’s (and cassettes in the 80’s). These vinyl enthusiasts who get all excited over LP reissues of 80’s and 90’s music clearly weren’t even alive then or were really young because I didn’t know a single person who was into vinyl back then. Most of the stuff I listened to 20-30 years was never released on vinyl originally, so if they truly wanna be a hipster they should buy the format that most used back then...and it was CD’s in the 90’s.
I`m with you , even though I grew up with Vinyl and I do love it , it`s so much cheaper and easier to buy CD`s You wont believe how many Vinyl albums that were ruined in my collection , it just got to a point I had to stack them in my cupboard under the stairs and the damp got to them Yep , give me CD`s any day
Vinyl fan here, thought you presented great reasons as to your preference of cds over vinyl. Can’t fault anyone’s opinion! Whatever works to keep playing great music. May the Metal live forever
do you even know nowadays vinyl uses converted digital audio to analog, so how come its better than cds, take 70s,80, vinyl and compare same artist album with.a cd, you will.hear the better sound of vinyl
I buy mostly CDs but will occasionally go for vinyl. Usually only buy records if it's special in some way like an old collectible, special interest, and or has great artwork. Sometimes I like to have certain ones on multiple formats too.
@@masterjunky863 1) Spotify sucks 2) Bluetooth < physical CD in your car 3) Why are you arguing with peoples' preferences for music. Just go listen to spotify and let people buy physical media.
I find it weird that vinyl is seen as the "pure representation" of the music. If you send a digital master to the pressing plant, you cannot be exactly sure what you're gonna get with either vinyl or cassette, whereas cd is pretty much a 1:1 copy of the master. So it's a better presentation of what the artist intended, whether you like it or not. Lots of people I know prefer to listen to their own stuff on cd, which certainly makes it a bit harder to dwell in any vinyl elitism. It appears to be that cd and also cassette are in some small way making a comeback, due to problems related to vinyl production. There are limited amount of pressing plants available, all of them busy pushing out beatles or metallica remasters, and because of this, smaller labels have to wait, often more than six months, for their products. Whether this will lead to new plants being opened, to also help to keep the costs reasonable, is another thing. Even then, the shipping costs for 12'' are doomed to be pretty unreasonable, especially for trans-atlantic routes. The sales margins for vinyls are low and revenue is hence to be mostly collected from cd sales. If you prefer vinyl, that's cool, but it's kinda detrimental to keep on ridiculing cd as a format, because that's what the whole scene has been built upon.
I collect cassettes and CDs. They don’t take up much room and don’t cost as much. CD quality is top notch always . Cassette is my love and hobby so I understand vinyl folk. But it’s so easy to buy a new CD for $4-15 and hear something near perfection. Once you get past 2002 CD is your only option unless people went back and reissued releases on vinyl or tape. Agree on everything said One thing about vinyl is that the art work looks nicer and the record itself looks cooler to me.
I like (analog) recordings on vinyl and (digital) recordings on CD. That's where I draw the line. The whole process of recording and transferring the recordings has changed.
Vinyl is romantic and nostalgic, and has some great qualities. I'm big on artwork and liner notes, so that's an obvious advantage due to scale BUT that has nothing to do with the music. I draw a distinction between vinyl from the vinyl era (mostly 1950s-1980s, mostly) and new vinyl (1990s-present). Classic vinyl is pre-digital. New vinyl is (often) basically digital recordings on an analog medium. To me, CDs are the workingman's format: stable, inexpensive, durable, playable almost anywhere (as long as optical drives are around) AND high resolution. ALSO CHEAPER THAN mp3s (at the moment -- hit that bargain bin!). 80% of the comments I read on Discogs are complaining about how a vinyl pressing is botched. Don't get me wrong: if I had a huge house and an unlimited budget I'd listen to vinyl. But that's not the person I am or the lifestyle I have. I'm with you.
When I was younger I was all CD, now im focusing on vinyl, each have their own advantages and disadvantages. But if you ask me, the reason I focus on vinyl because its just cooler, and as life gets busier I listen to less music, so vinyl helps me make a point of setting aside a bit of time. as for quality I think mastering has more to do with it than the format. But with vinyl, even brand new and cleaned in a professional machine, played on a brand new stylus will have surface noise, people like to get high on their analog horse, but analog is a hell of a lot more susceptible to interference. Another aspect is the collecting, if you're into collecting vinyl is probably the better option. I for instance am collecting every release i can find for my favorite band, signed, different colors of albums etc. The price also gives your music purchase more weight, you cant pick up 6-10 records every pay, but you could probably pick up 6-10 CDs. I tend to get most albums I really listen to a lot on both formats, or vinyl and lossless digital ideally (the appeal of collecting is not that it takes up all of my space! lol) Well, that was a lot longer than I expected, if anyone actually reads this let me know if I made any sense at all or if Im just talking crazy!
Definitely agree with you man. Vinyl is just too expensive and too much maintenance for me. I always love going into Half Price Books and getting 4 CDs for like $20.
I'm a music enthusiast, period. The format ain't that important to me, I take it for what it is. Each format has it's pros and cons. But at the end of the day, what's the purpose of us acquiring these things? The music! These debates seem completely sterile to me. But hey, love you all anyway. Music lovers should unite! Not quarrel! Peace and long live music!
Being born in the 90s, I grew up on audio CDs. I never did listen to vinyls (I don't know if I did). My dad and his older brothers grew up on vinyl, But, we enjoy both formats, even though I'm more of a CD person.
I still buy CDs based on the fact that you can play them in your vehicle and I just have a long history with cds. I do like Vinyl's but think some of the prices are rediculous.
at the end of the day in my view as long as the media of either format is being bought thats the important thing. personally for me Vinyl gives a certain collector feeling that i just get a high off of if that makes sense lol. as for CDs i love them when an album has a lot of hooks, is fun and catchy that i'll end up jamming to in a car ride or on my way to work.
I personally prefer vinyl, however I respect that CDs are also great. I'm at the point where I really am not adding new music to my collection, so I am happy with keeping my vinyl collection and enjoying it. I would probably only buy anything new on vinyl if it is something that I am very passionate about. Otherwise, nothing wrong with having the CD.
True. I collect only CD nowadays, because the market are huge for CDs, I like the protection for CD and of course the sound is nice and prices are awsome on CDs. Great video BTW. keep up the good works. i just subscribe to your channel.
I also carry the banner for CDs! The main reason is, it's just what I have always collected, so to fully switch mediums would be weird for me. Beyond that functionality has reigned supreme (CDs work great in my car, in my computer, in my DVD player, Video game system, etc. -- it's also super easy to convert it to digital files, which for me is important as I listen to music at work everyday)..... For the most part, I have merely augmented my CD collection with records and cassettes for releases that were not released on CD (with a bit of bleed over on the cassette front).... Good topic, thanks!!
i only buy CDs also for pretty much the same reasons. i love vinyl for the large artwork and lyrics you can actually read (CD booklet text can be painful to read) i hate digipaks though, the reason we have jewel cases was to protect the medium. i also get annoyed when there is no CD TEXT on a new release or even releases within the last 10/15 years. it's so useful for in the car
My whole thing right now is Spotify could cease to exist tomorrow and I'd be out $10 for the month, but they can't ever take my CDs away from me so long as the power is running!!
I think it's more just younger people who are used to just streaming for music but like vinyl for it's physicality. Plus vinyl has the added bonus of having some amazing artwork on it. So there's that. Soundwise, I'm not picky, but I find CD's are a bit clearer which is nice. I love vinyl a lot. But I was born in the early 2000's, and grew up with CD's (and tapes a bit too). I have a special place in my heart for CD's. They're also more convenient.
the whole argument is a bit.. meh. In my opinion. horses for courses. I buy both. If something is not on vinyl and I really really want it I buy the CD, it's a no brainer. i prefer vinyl, yes, but that is largely nostalgic, I admit it. It costs me more, yes, but I choose what I want on vinyl and what I want on CD, sometimes I buy the same release on both, because like you I applaud the artists and want to reward them for their great work. At the end of the day, it's my choice which format I buy for specific artists and styles of music and that may not make any sense to anyone else, but, meh, who cares.
It's not nostalgic, if there's a decent master on vinyl (rare) and you have a quality system then it's a no-brainer. This guy has no clue he's arguing about convenience and cost etc not about the music. Metal these days tends to be compressed as hell so sounds shit on pretty much everything.
I prefer Vinyl simply because of the novelty: IDC about the small differences in the sound I will usually not notice or how expensive it is or the maintenece. I just like collecting the music I love, just like books, while I mostly still listen to the music digitally. Still totally understand your point tho.
I've curtailed much of my vinyl purchases. When it's done right (which in my experience is only one out of every so many these days) I prefer vinyl. Skinny Puppy's Last Rights on 45 RPM sounds phenomenal. Easily my best sounding record. Also, all of the vinyl High On Fire releases surpass the overly loud CDs. Amazing difference. Just fills the room. All that being said, most of my music purchases are on CD and tape these days. It bums me out a bit when I go to a show and see a new band I dig and they don't have either for sale. I simply cannot afford $25+ for every album I want to check out (the average being $30). I understand the costs involved but I just can't do it. Also, I really lack the time to enjoy a record. That's a lot of money to just sit there. Space has also become an issue. And finally, one of my biggest gripes about vinyl is warped and or noisy pressings which happens way too much. CDs and tapes will probably always account for the bulk of my music purchases.
I get what you are saying,, but for me the listening experience is almost a religious thing, I love the care that goes into albums, the preparation, the old smell, the surface noise, it's all very satisfying, as for cds, I find them very cold and sterile, they do serve a purpose, mainly out in the car, but as I said, for me, when I sit down to listen to my music, I'm not a casual listener, I leave my music for home, and don't get me started on jewel cases, now when they started making the cardboard cover cd packages, that stoked my interest, because they looked like something more human, but for sound, they both sound great, I just prefer albums.
The surface noise is contamination, it was not recorded and the listener is not supposed to hear anything that wasn't part of the music. This highlights for me the reason why Vinyl is an inferior format to digital, all the problems with records that led to the creation of CD, still exist.
Joking aside, the thing that I find *really* galling about the whole "vinyl resurgence" is the fetishism to the detriment of the music. For years, I've been quick to say that I'm more of a fetishist than a collector, because I just happen to like records, but all the interest in cleaning, needles, gear, balancing, grounding.... JESUS, who gives a fuck?? There's little on YT I hate more than "vinyl videos" that have nothing to do with music.
Thanks for this great video. I 100% agree your reason why some vinyls go along with the CD collection, everything here is to support the artist saying - yes, amazing record!!!
A lot of people say that u don't get the same experience with the album artwork on CDs as u do on vinyl. As a young lad, I had 100s of tapes. It was just as cool to unravel a long stretch of cassette sleeve to reveal photos, liner notes and lyrics as it was with an LP. And they are smaller than CDs. I remember the first 5 years or so with CD releases, they made those big narrow jacket covers to duplicate the feel of getting a big record album. Then because it was eating up too much space at stores and taking up too much landfill, they ditched the sleeves. Things were never the same again, because CDs displayed all clustered together by the 1000s made them look cheap.. and budget bins certainly added to the cracker jack appeal. People didn't seem to be as curious about an artist they never heard of because it was filed right against ten .99 cent sealed copies of Pocket Full of Kryptonite. Anyways... I'm babbling..
I think your right, they a lot of great cd only release and CDs are a much more versatile format you call leave a couple of them in your car, do they sound better on vinyl? not always. Really like what you said about reward to the label and band for releasing such an amazing album example Revenge I try to collect them on vinyl even though I have them on cd, just because I love those albums. As collection goes I also have more CDs then vinyl, vinyl for me I would really have to like the record to order it
For those that remember the 70's there was one super standout record by Iron Butterfly called In A Gadda Da Vida. Now, Etco (or someone with the rights to the recording) TRIED, repeat TRIED, to release it onto the CD format and many people that knew what the vinyl version sounded like were tempted to toss their last meal. The HISS on that CD was atrocious! It actually over rode some of the quieter passages of the drum solo. Even the cassettes weren't that noisy. I have both the vinyl and the reel to reel versions and they still sound great today. The CD has long since been flipped into the trash can where it should have been tossed before it ever left the factory. This is but one of the many CD fails over the history of the now soon to be extinct mode of listening. Many stores no longer carry CD's much less the blank medium to make your own. The newest ones are nothing more than junk before you even get them home. They soon refuse to play anymore or else their laminates start peeling apart leaving you with a neat clear piece of plastic to make a clock out of. I know of which I speak because I have a box of culls that are over 500 deep of CD's that no longer will play without skipping, IF they attempt to play at all. I am an avid music collector of all mediums of music and the CD's have been my biggest and most hated mistake!
@@jackofalltrades9311 Cds last 200 years thats longer than you or i will be alive plus vinyl isnt forever either because people will never fully care for vinyl due to scratches warping bad stylus ruining the grooves and everytime you play vinyl you wear it out that much more. CDs are read by a laser light nothing ever touches the suface of a cd physically so in the span of 200 years that CD can be played an UNLIMITED number of times where a vinyl record played every day in that span of time would be so distorted that you would be able to hear the music anymore.
Cds don't last 200 years. Look up CD rot. You might have 10 to 20 years with a CD. You can record your cds to Cdr Gold. That will last 100 years. Look it up.
@@jackofalltradesmercury207 i have cds that were made in the 80s and 90s that are over 20 to 30 years old and they still play and are not rotted. Laser rot is rare on professionally pressed cds buts is way more common CD-R CD-RWs. Plus CDs made at a particular plant in the UK back in 1989-1990 had an issue with CD Bronzing but that was quickly solved and corrected and hasnt happened at all since. Case in point i have the Cars greatest hits CD that was pressed in Japan in 1984 its going on 35 years old and isnt rotted. I work at a vinyl record plant and we reject about 35% of our pressed vinyl due to scratches warping dimpleing etc. Vinyl is way more problematic to make than CDs.
Hi Ben! I've always been in the mindset that they have roughly the same sound quality (and by that I mean original pressings on either format, none of that remastered/reissued crap), so with that premise I'll go with what costs less, obviously. Back in the 90's it was vinyl. Money talks, folks. Love this video! - Red
i was born in the 50s no cds and embraced them when the came out and maybe ten years later gave all my vinyl away i dont regret it even though i could have made a small fortune now if i kept them ive replaced most of my collection on cd all i miss about vinyl is looking at the covers especialy the gatefolds also you can slip cds in your pocket so you dont get the what you brought comments of your friends and also cds carry more tracks no more bulky boxsets but thats me everybody has there own preference
A properly mastered cd, with a great design/booklet/etc is better than vinyl I think, even if the album was recorded on analog tape originally. Why do I think so? Well, because vinyl has inner groove distortion and gets static and dirty (cracks and pops). That doesn't happen with reel to reel. Yes, tape can get dirty too, but you get my point. Likewise, cd doesn't have IGD and and problems with static. If someone records in analog, and they wanna release an analog copy, Chrome tape would be the best. They sound amazing, and metal tape is just too expensive. I LOVE vinyl, Especially 70's and early 80's ones, but it's messy and lots new vinyl is hit n miss soundwise. Whereas my old Alan Parson's records, for example, sound amazing on vinyl.
If u have inner groove distortion, outer groove distortion, any kind of distortion, and more than a extremely rare click or pop, you’re doing something very very wrong. It’s a bitch, but a turntable setup correctly dosent have any audible distortion at all.
Angus Van Halen +1 Exactly this. People with CDs will be crying when they find out their prized album has suddenly developed disc rot and starts to skip!
@@Stringbean421 Not all CD's get disc rot. It all depends. I have some older CD-R's that have gotten disc rot but some CD's even older than them that have 0 traces of disc rot whatsoever.
@Stringbean I own hundreds of CD’s, many dating back to 1986, and only ONE in 34 years of collecting that format has ever experienced “disc rot”...and that was a cheap bootleg CD so it’s not surprising.
@@OriginalGrasshopper Disc rot happens only really to lower end CD-R's and I think some DVD's. Manufacturers are pretty aware of disc rot and pretty much know how to make their CD's not get it. It can happen, but all disc rot is internal from chemical reactions.
70% cd, 20% mc, and 10% LP in my collection. I'm only collecting vinyl for historical reason, first pressing of 60-70's vinyl records are great for defining music history
I'm a geezer so I started buying vinyl and tapes before CDs came out. When CDs were the new thing, they were more expensive but promised durability and versatility. I switched to CD after a few years and now have several hundred. I can't see any reason to switch to vinyl now. They cost way too much, can't back them up to a hard drive, can't play them in a car, too fragile, and when you're listening mega long multi disc albums like epic drone pieces, you have to keep jumping up and flipping sides every 20 minutes or so. I don't see any real benefit to vinyl apart from the attractive packaging. I think it's ultimately just romantic appeal.
I can understand why people like cd's over vinyl, cause cds are far more universally useful as far as convenience and compatibility are concerned. Last time I checked vinyl couldn't play in your CD player. However, vinyl is my preferable format simply because I feel like I get (for the most part) a bit more with vinyl.
CD is also my main source choice. I do have some vinyl and a turn table but rarely touch it. I stick to CDs as I was born in the 80s and I already have a ton of them and I can't find many of my favorite albums on vinyl and if I do they are to expensive. AKA Tool and A Perfect Circle. CDs are so cheap right now its awesome, I even got a Sony CD player recently for $50 that was $1200 back in 2002..... never been better to be a CD guy. I also noticed many of the vinyl people do "haul" videos, so I've started doing CD haul videos sharing my great goodwill finds.
Vinyl is beautiful but so delicate. I have CD's or I get it off the internet. With my Asperger's I was so glad to get CD's since I'm not too patient. I love mini-LP-CD versions. You get remastered CDs but the original vinyl look-alike.
CD's only sound better than vinyl if it mastered without dynamic compression and loudness war. In most cases. The idiots in the recording industry screwed up the sound of CD's, with the loudness war.
