Why I Prefer Destiny 1 over Destiny 2 

It had atmosphere. D2 doesn’t have one, or at least a very minimal one.

Quinn yesssss the community was much better too, I remember people huddling around Me or another guy cuz we were wearing dope ass raid armor, raids were actually fun, these days people just want to cheese the bosses and get a quick 1 phase raid finished, the raid armor in D2 is trash, some of the best missions in D2 are missions about D1 exotics, idk D1 was just much more fun

Just listen to the background music in this video. That is the vibe, my friend. I miss the chill D1 tower

I think it's because the people were more friendly. Whenever I play d2, it's just a bunch of guardians grinding loot. But even today, people who play d1 are willing to help you out with strikes or missions, even if they don't get anything out of it. They played d1 for fun, and not to complete the new exotic grind.

Its because it's the original

same bro

@rhec710nation Eastern/Oregon well it wasn't free for me. Never has been. Season pass isnt free since content is locked behind it. Is this also the part you tell me that I don't have to pay?

I think the reason was called “Marty O’Donnell”. He made the original Destiny score and then left Bungie, after having made the score for their Halo games since 2001.

Leman Russ what are you guys talking about content can’t be free that’s ridiculous it was like a taste test to make yr1 free

@@aksis2133 That's completely false mate lmao Marty was fired off the team and the OST he made was never included in the game. No clue why a comment with such false information has four upvotes lol

For sure

D1 is a complete game while D2 will never be complete, which is why it is a failure

It’s much more consistent when is comes to the tone of the game were destiny 2 is all over the place

@@johnaplin9848 d1 was not a complete game

And that feeling is fact! It had much more character. D2 just feels like another MMO looter shooter with a Destiny skin.

i still brag about solo nightfalls to new D2 players that never knew the pain of cloaked vandals with an arc-burn modifier and lightswitch

May be because you got better at the game?

Grandmaster?

ikr it was so hard back in year 1 and d1 first time i completed it i felt so accomplished

Yeah try grandmaster please

Same Edit: I now think it depends on the activity. Both are great games

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Same here like d1 is just the better game

Started on d1 demo went to d2 and now I never play d2 and I only have been playing d1

@@z1q3r59 same I played destiny 1 demo preordered destiny 2 then it became for free. I even bought the deluxe. 😭 I regret getting D2. D1 is the best

Awesome to hear that man. glad you had some good times on this game.

Got the Vex on my 1st hard mode completion but hey I earned it by doing the solar nade cheese 🧀 😎

I feel you on that amigo. Whenever I got the chance I'd go through the game's worlds and just enjoy the open views and secret areas they'd have. It'd always give younger me that tad of needed insperation

Yess man, I used to no life d1 on 360 after school everyday and I had such an amazing time in d1 that’s why I’m buying it on my PS4 d2 isn’t cutting it no more especially after stasis it kinda killed it for me

@@Loaferson Remember going through the Cosmodrome for the first time on recon? All the secret enemies you bump into when Crota came out? I tell you when I found the servant of the hand for the first time I actually got spooked a bit

I'm in the UK. All reset times were 10 in the morning, while I was in school. Wednesdays I would wait for break time so I could watch mesasean's shitty copy-pasted low-effort videos on armsday, waiting for the perfect Arminius-D, or DIS-47. Or on Friday for Xur. Those were the days, man.

i can remember my 13 year old self running home just to play d1 with my friends on a raid or trials on a weekend

Remember When You’d Leave A Fireteam Member At Templar During Reset, And You Wouldn’t Have To Play Through The First Section?

Remember when eververse store was actually a decent store? And you could earn 3 boxes per week through activities (9 if you had 3 characters)

Akira Kamisaru wait what I’ve never thought of that how was I unaware lol

I tried to go to d2, i got a fakebringer and it's not the same my friend who was so jealous because it had dragon fly and outlaw it's not fatebringer. When you got loot, in d1 it made you scream at the top of your lungs at 5 am waking the whole house up

I used to no life d1 on Xbox and recently d2 has been ruined for me since stasis is a thing, but I wanna go back to those days where on Xbox I’d always meet some of the chillest people trying to do raids😌

Truth. D2 feels like clocking into work

Because if you're not playing every week, you're gonna miss content. Drip-feeding content is bad enough, but they actually delete stuff from the game once the season ends. And now the Vault and sunsetting...

Requiem Eye no, not like this. Just some small reccurring events, but in D2 we have entire story bits added and deleted with each season. I had to watch a video from Byf at the start of this season because all the stuff I thought I’m going to experience, like black garden (that even teased at the end of shadowkeep) and rasputin story, was gone. And don’t get me started on absolutely boring power grind...

@@NovemberHotel facts. I guess I just quit my job lol.

@@SeptimusXT sounds like you should play a better game. Destiny 1 sounds pretty good.

VOG is a huge cavern the Vex mechanised, turning the heart of Venus into a resting place for Time's Conflux. Heavily defended by the most powerful Vex machines, and virtually impenetrable. Your light only survives thanks to the sacrifice of Kabr, who, in his final moments, poured the last of his light into a shield, before he and it were rended from the timeline, scattered throughout the past and future of the vault. Crota's End is a journey inside of the Moon. Into the Hellmouth, which was dug by billions of disgusting, evil, genocidal alien monsters. You enter the ascendant realm, and slay Crota, the champion knight of the hive, turning his own sword against him as his power drains your light, preventing you from healing, while his oversoul builds it's destructive power to smother any trace of you. King's Fall, you break into the deepest layers of the Dreadnaught, Oryx's territory in the ascendant realm, dragged into the materium via the sheer power Oryx wields thanks to the sword logic. He built a throne room, and a great ship around it from the compressed, rotted remains of his own people. There are huge piles of jelly-like eggs collecting in the untrodden corners, and dreadful fumes and spores floating around in the air. The ship is rotting, falling apart. Chunks of the smooth floors and walls are chipped away, revealing the forbidden crumpets within. You claim the many auras of the Hive's rituals of sword logic and slay their royalty. First, you fell the mighty Warpriest, and a titan in your fireteam cuts off his head as a trophy, and wears its hollowed-out exoskull as a helmet. You distract Golgoroth and allow your fireteam to wound it unnoticed. It falls to your overwhelming light. You steal the aura of immortality from Oryx's daughters and use it to murder them. A warlock, not one to be outdone, copies the titan, taking one of their heads as a token of their victory. Finally, you face Oryx. You kill the beasts he sends to eat your light, spilling pools of corrupted light on the ground. You stop him drawing power from the darkness and then channel this corrupted light and detonate it, as a terribly destructive bomb to wound Oryx. In his final stand, he is powerless, and his place in the ascendant realm is relinquished. You take his ravenous heart and turn it into a weapon. WOTM is in a structure built as a ramshackle entrance to one of Rasputin's vaults, incorporating a siege engine on the cosmodrome wall. You descend into the vault and bring down the zealot Aksis, who tried to make himself a god. (I could bitch about the Vosik and Aksis encounters being basically the same, but whatever. I don't really play Wrath that much) The D2 raids are: just complete a few tests then kill a Freddy Fazbear version of a guy who is already dead... Or is he?; Wander through a lavender coloured city, kill 3 psycho chicks (which are all basically the same encounter over and over), then shoot a dragon in the eyes; shoot big fat cabal looking hive possessed thing; and wander through a lab then kill Taniks, who we already killed twice and is trying to copy Aksis and give himself a giant robo-gorilla-dumpy. There's a bit of a difference. There's no mystery or majesty about the D2 raids. It's all just low-stakes rubbish-sweeping twaddle with dumb bosses.

I’d have to disagree to this statement but hey if that’s how you feel I can’t change that fact

@@ivanivanovic5857 massive exaggeration but you do you bud.

@@sunshotwithanornament2475 this

@@ivanivanovic5857 i think the main turn off for me in d2 is the low stakes compared to d1 in raids. Vosik and Aksis being the same is not something I understand. Do you mean in terms of narrative or mechanics? I'd hope narrative because you're out of your mind if you wanna say mechanics.

Thanks man!

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I’m sorry you’ve had that experience. The game has definitely turned into a chore for most players and seems to be a tryhard’s wet dream. No fun allowed. I definitely remember running d1 lfg teams all the time and made so many friendships. Some that have lasted years and have met in person since playing. Destiny 2 has never provided anything similar.

@@NovemberHotel I really do feel like that as well. I've met people in person that I've made friends with online and still talk to them today. I honestly don't know what shifted the community so hard.

@@joshuawinters6591 destiny 2 really turned off most of the d1 fans and the fortnite generation infiltrated the destiny community. It's unfortunate because the community is mostly just toxic and unwelcoming now

@@NovemberHotel I think what we're talking about here are the jaded old timers who've had to put up with so much genuine incompetence. Like, refusal to try and learn mechanics, "mewant ad clear then give loot!!!", or just players SO DUMB I sometimes ponder will they survive the next week without hanging themselves on their SHOELACES by accident tomorrow. Now I've dealt with actual twats and mental defectives and try my hardest and longest to keep it nice and civil, but we all have our limits.. Now however, I've hung around with a great team and it's chaotic fun with my personal perfect level of dumb and I love it. We sortof pushed out and replaced one moron who genuinely in a childish way said "i dont wanna" to learning few simple mechanics a new player could get a hang of in ten minutes max!

I agree. I think the worse thing Bungie has done is the seasonal artefact power level. It gives an advantage to those who spend every waking hour playing the game and provides an uninteresting means of progression just so there is no end to the progression once you reach the pinnacle cap. It's a band-aid counter-measure to an severed limb. I'd much rather the progression has an end point each expansion, or even each season, that is achievable for the whole player base. The issue is evident with the fact that the end-game activities disable the artefact power advantages simply because it would cause imbalance for the player base.

I mean at least give us pinnacles for resetting your valor rank or glory rank because we shouldn’t be forced to wait for means to an end or the next iron banner

@@MrJakeasaur98 i think your right

@@MrJakeasaur98 the worst part about artifact power is that it doesn't do anything in any activity except nightfall

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Kevin Doerr I think bungie has started catching onto this with focused umbral engrams but you’re right more vendors should be doing this.

yeah I spent 500 crucible tokens to get the crucible helmet last season but couldn’t get it because i kept getting rerolls of the same grips and weapons.

I miss being able to just buy a weapon that I want, with vendors rerolling every week. That's how they should always be.

the vibe

i do that when I’m alone and start to tear up cuz of all the good times I had

Bastion was my favorite but also skyshock with its bridge fights, those were my favorites too.

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@@Dontuseyourrealname134 got dayum thanks homie

Yeah, everything in Destiny 2 looks freshly made which is super lame. Destiny 1 was all about wearing what you found in a post-apocalyptic galaxy, with all the aged relics of a far-gone golden age.

Also in bl2 the gun you had, combined with your build was what made it good. In bl3 you are farming for base damage increases on grenade throw annoints to overcome 10000% health bullet sponges.

This is exactly how i feel about BL3. When a game just throws things at me frequently im simply bound to become desensitized to it. Its not fun for me.

Both games are pretty crappy to be fair. They easily have the worst grinding and endgame systems I have ever seen in an RPG and trust me as someone who’s played and finished SMT Nocturne many times that is saying a lot (even though Nocturne is more based on game knowledge rather than mindless farming)

Not to mention in Borderlands RU-vidrs are basically telling players that they should use modded gear even though it breaks terms and services agreements that you agreed upon when you first made a console account I guarantee you if Destiny had modded gear you would have seen RU-vidrs and twitch streamer telling people to use it even if you get banned Not all RU-vidrs the most of them they want Destiny to be a broken game because they make money off that kind of content

Simon Jack especially the fuckers who do paid carries

I remember watching outside your window

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every d1 boss had immunity phases, its just that they were broken usually by doing a mechanic instead of killing all the ads.

@@await2487 Either way I feel as if they felt more engaging and less of an inconvenience compared to the ones in d2

@@panniniman8631 exactly what im saying, immunity phases can be fun

@@await2487 ?!?!?!?!? What do you mean bro? I never left d1 because I can't afford a PS4 or a good PC so I'm still playing d1 on TTK and almost no bosses have a immune phase (i'm referring strike bosses) the only one who has a immune phase is the eco chamber, where you have to put the relic on its place so you can damage theosyion

@@arandomwarlock7414 sepiks perfects and the nexus mind both go immune but have cool mechanics to break, rise of iron added a bunch

You missed the raids dungeon GM nightfalls and titles to chase but yah no endgame.

@@StatusCaIamitous GM Nightfalls? If its endgame - why is BNG capping the golf balls and prisms? (its just a temporary title chase to fill content drought lol)

Mystery elytS gm is the best farming methods for those it would just be broken if they gave more and token staking I don’t think I remember a season instead of now that tokens Gabe good loot irrelevant look at things

What do you mean by stacking tokens that is like the most piss poor way to get loot

@@Fadegalaxy-mv4mp when you're hardcore and can easily earn 300+ tokens a week. I don't need to cash them in - shards and cores are piss. They're a common thing. I've easily got 20-30k tokens. Why would i not stack them after i have 30k shards? The vendors offer nothing of value. Idk - if you like cashing 20 tokens, and 100 gs materials, who am i to stop you. Play as you like. And i will too.

He was my favorite d1 youtuber

In ps5? Hell yeah man brilliant idea

@@Siege_Engine and Xbox series x

A PC port would be brilliant

Glad I’m not the only one

D1 armor had that old, rustic, militaristic look. D2 armor is space wizard 2 electric boogaloo

There’s still quality it’s just not very legendary Engram you pick up. There are raid exclusive weapons and armor still and other loot lock behind certain content like menagerie or dungeons. We do have a lot more loot and I’m not mad at that going a long while D1 without any legendaries dropping felt like wasted effort it’s why loot caves existed. You don’t need loot caves as much now because you can just play the game and you’ll get a legendary. Even in that legendary loot pool players are looking for specific things and stat rolls so there’s still that factor of I finally got it. It’s just a different way of going about it. D2 just needs to incentivize some of its content better.

Origins was amazing, not so sure about odyssey but I was just obsessed with origin quests because I kept edge walking looking badass.

@rhec710nation Eastern/Oregon it used to cost 60 dollars, and the dlcs were not free as they are now, are you sure you played it for years? a lot of y1 players have easily spent 100$+ on destiny, just to play the content. Just because its free now doesn't mean everyone magically gets their money back.

@rhec710nation Eastern/Oregon The only reason it's free is because people paid massive sums of money for multiple DLCs. I think in D2 alone for just the game and DLCs(not silver but that will not be part of the equation) I have spent upwards of 250 dollars. Destiny 2 is a great FREE game, but paid game, not so much and could be a lot better story wise. All of the story goes into lore, which in simple terms; it really sucks.

Yeah, Destiny 1 might have been going for open world, but it didn't go that ubisoft-sandbox-content-drought far. Look at Seasonal content. I mean Public event stuff like is fun and all, but what the fuck happened in the creativity department, I mean Shadowkeep was the moon only rise-of-iron-ified, champions are cool but don't work, how do we let shit like this fly, don't get me started on trials.

Exactly. D2 is a chore to play. Never has it been an itch that needed scratching

@@NovemberHotel yeah. It started to feel like a chore to me when season of worthy launched. Before that, from new light to dawn, i was enjoying my time learning and doing raids, especially last wish, since i started during new light.

@@NovemberHotel Thats how i feel about a lot of new live games. A chore to keep up with. same with the latest modern warfare. a chore to keep up with all the battle passes and weapons and its not about playing any more its just driven by a FOMO and thats why I cant stay into it for very long. It becomes stressful.

snazzypants57 totally agree man. I miss when games had a point and you could finish something

@@snazzypants57 ikr. That's the only thing i dislike about live games. Too much unnecessary grind and fomo as well. Video games are meant to be a means of enjoyment and experiencing a story the developer wants to put out. Just imagine if bungie actually cared about the quality of the storytelling in this game. Massive difference.

Yeah, I agree, in D2 Year 2 they had a quest for each season release that would give you gear that was at the minimum power cap so you could try out the new content immediately, I don’t get why they dropped that.

Same I did

@Anomitas I played it since day 1 😔

I can help ppl and i need help too My psn acc is ( Horse_operator )

@@Siege_Engine can I have some help please? I'll add you, my psn name is The_Funky_Child

@@justinsteinbach2174 i played since beta 😪 i miss it

Well u never pressed x.

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I dont know if you agree but i wish they ported destiny 1 to pc

They wanted to, however they had a contract with Activision so per contract they had to make D2. There original plan was to keep D1 going like D2 is…

@@jmatrix010 Dang, that really sucks🤦🏽‍♂️

It wouldn't have worked. Destiny 1 was made with Xbox 360 and PS3 in mind. Even once they dropped support for them, those were still holding them back. If anything, Bungie should've made a Destiny 3 instead of keeping Destiny 2 going if they were going to remove content from the game. What's the point if you have no way to actually play through the entire story of Destiny. Technical limits aside, it would've been best if they kept one game going the whole time though.

The consoles they were made for are on today's standards considered total shit-tier. Awful memory capacity and management, even worse storage capacity and oh god the connectivity.

I got 5 of em from engrams

Well you had hours for over a year and it has different rolls

Ryan Long yea,but I just hate it when a person grinds for a specific roll only for that weapon to be given away like candy later.

@@mannysilveira5967 tbh, beside the look of the gun and archetype, it's a different gun. I would be pissed though if people got it from the same activity and it had the same stat roles

What is wrong getting easy access weapons. It's not like everyone can count on you 24/7 to support them in getting better weapons. It reduces the huge ego players get when getting high end gear and treat other players like dogs.

90% of armour and exotic weapons in d2 are absolutely useless

to each their own man. D2 just doesn't have enough to keep me grinding. Meanwhile 90 hours later on my new D1 account i'm still invested almost daily

NovemberHotel I agree.

David Butler please don’t act like D1 didn’t also have this same problem. Name the last time you went into a raid with Universal Remote, Hard Light, Telesto, Hereafter, Patience and Time, Last Word, Thorn, Nova Mortis, Super Good Advice, No Time to Explain, Jade Rabbit, First Curse, The Chaperone, Necrochasm, Monte Carlo, Trespasser, Truth etc

Forcer half of those guns you just named were very viable for stuff outisfe of raids

It took me about A YEAR to get ikelos sniper rifle in D2 because Rngesus hated me, and the rifle itself was meh, i never used it. Your argument is invalid.

your point is invalid :/

If they are gonna sunset shit making loot harder to get is the dumbest shit I have heard. Exotics are ok tho cause they are not going away

Robel Beyene Mayzser sensetting is an unfortunate byproduct of our community begging for more. We asked for more weapons until they became game breaking just to be viable. I do not understand why we need to sunset armor but I for one am glad to see mountaintop/revoker/erenteil (aka non skill weapons) leave the game.

And here I am getting 1K on my first run. That was the first and last time I did that raid😅

I was a casual player not even a raider but it just feels better. D2 just has so many steps to get pinnacle loot that isn't even entertaining.

I don't

I can vouch that.

I preferred D2 I made way more memories with it since I made so many friends on pc and finally managed to do raids and trials (of the nine) and in D1 I was always a solo player. That might just be a me problem but D2 I had more fond memories of friendship :)

Chaos I understand that as I didn’t even really enjoy D1 until somewhere around the House of Wolves dlc because I was just a solo player at that point

Except that the content we're getting in between expansions is terrible. Also Bungie puts resources into that content which means less content for big expansions (Shadowkeep). Content droughts are bad but seasons aren't a solution. They're basically content droughts that Bungie puts time into making.

The great thing about the content drought between ttk and roi is that I actually got to play other games that came out during that time like Overwatch and Rainbow Six: Seige; nowadays with D2 I feel like I either have to play it exclusively if I want to even be able to do new content or never play and focus on other games. So I think that Destiny 2 is probably better for people that never want to stop playing Destiny, but I prefer Destiny 1's system more because it gave me time to play other games that I love and allowed me to savor the content more.

ilyas abdolcader A good amount of D2’s Raids are more mechanically complex and creative and aren’t artificially made difficult through high power. Most of VoG revolves around just shooting ads and killing specific ads

ilyas abdolcader Well your criticism for D2 Raids being just killing ads would be an unfair criticism considering you don’t play the more simple Raids. On top of that the argument that D2 is more grindy isn’t necessarily a bad thing, just means you have to commit more time for it. I was not a fan of how easy it was to hit max power because you didn’t have to put a lot of effort to get to 400. Not only that but high power doesn’t really matter considering only a small minority of activities require you to have high power

@ilyas abdolcader Mate, Destiny Raids aren't difficult because of mechanics. No one does 390 VoG and goes "Bro the mechanics are challenging and require focus" D1 Raids are so mechanically simple that the only way to make them difficult is by raising the power.

Year 1 and year 2 destiny's golden era

that didn't age well

If only that was reality, this timestream would be complete.

if they only were never with Activision in the first place. I hope they could remaster it for PC and next-gen consoles

Watch the video dude he explains his points and why he thinks that way

tbh id rather that than these shitty seasons with barely any content

@Sneaklone problem is u gotta pay extra for the seasons and they kinda suck and extremely low effort

well said bro, I have over 5000 hours in d1 and theres no point in going back. I played and got everything that I wanted. I sure as hell recommend people to play the first game but honestly d2 to me is far superior. The only thing I currently miss is Dreg's promise and I would say hawkmoon but its already confirmed to return! so yeah sincerely I think d1 is not nearly as exciting to a veteran.

Well that’s not the games fault, you didn’t buy the DLCs so you can’t play the DLC content

@@chief6163 I could understand the pve lock off. But pvp lock out? That was absurd at the time and i'm just glad D2 didn't pull that stunt.

@@NamelessDream I must agree and disagree only because I am also a veteran and don't quite agree that D2 is far superior , now does some things better sure but , raid weapons and armor meant something . Like offering more damage to oracles in vault of glass , and not to mentioned better themed armor included . Sadly you are right not much of a reason to return tho outside of nostalgia purposes besides seems they can't come up with anything new so eventually all of D1 will end up in D2 sooner or later

Kenzita I don't think I saw a single cheater in D1 even once cuz it was only on console. so the paid crucible still had no reasoning

Don't you mean you don't have time to explain to explain

Yes

D1 is fun and all but I prefer d2, I haven’t even touched d1 since bungie came out with the seasonal content

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Fair enough man. Glad to hear it.

D1 gunplay is better and more satisfying that's is why and everyone keeps taking it back to the content. Which is really not what kept people playing trials with no new updates till the day it was done.

@@ggeneous647 d1 gunplay feels like beating your meat with your nails imo

@@Ibrahim-dj5hu really?? It was so satisfying. To fire hand canons, what about getting as sniper kill? What about nlb. Ahhh literally the best thing ever

@@ggeneous647 well not maybe as bad as i descriped it to be but for me it feels kinda outdated for some reason

Thanks man!

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You are right

The fact of the matter is people don’t want the harder content, they just act like they want it

Things like Grandmaster nightfalls aren't true difficulty in my eyes, though. You're still running a strike, that, by design, is simple and easy. If you only care about the completion of a GM, you run 2 (or 3) hunters and you skip a large majority of each strike. Hiking up enemy power level to the point that nearly anything one shots you and requiring a lock and key system via champions to force loadouts isn't fun for what seems to be a large majority of people. At some point, something difficult for the sake of being difficult isn't fun. I think Destiny managed to find the balance of difficult AND entertaining content in most aspects, especially raids.

@@StatusCaIamitous exactly people complain about not having hard content so bungie gives them it and then they bitch that its too hard

It’s not hard though... all Bungie have done is nerf your power output by artificially reducing your dps and throwing more bullet sponges into a repetitive, predictable strike. A team with the correct loadout can breeze through.

@@anix2457 you hit it dead on!

I dont really get this FOMO thing and I honestly just login to D2 to mess around. Its ok to be bored of games. What I dont understand is everybodys praise of D1. D1 is just fine, and thats it.

I feel an issue is having people’s opinions be more determined by their nostalgia and that bias basically telling themselves that “X is worse or not as good” instead of looking through what I consider a more analytical view of things

Hold on, back up, you don’t feel like your getting anywhere in d1 after grinding, well most people would say that’s how d2 feels, and if your getting that feeling in d1 it’s cause your not doing the right stuff, cause the d1 level grind is very quick

@@illumitiDash Dunno about that fam, I spent a week in D1 and got basically nothing, meanwhile in D2 I have almost every exotic and tons of great guns.

Granted I've been playing D2 for a year

Lava Dude62 your doing somthing wrong then, been to 0-400 light in 30 hours of playtime on 2 accounts and had top tier builds on each in 10 more hours after that