Why I Stay Away From Delta-8, THC-O, HHC, etc 

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As someone who has tried spice multiple times back in the day, I can tell you these are NOTHING like spice. Spice was psychedelic, gave me seizures on multiple occasions among other effects. Not only that, but just because spice chemicals were technically "cannabinoids", they were not even remotely close to thc, not were they naturally occurring anywhere. Really the only danger with this Delta 8 stuff is the lack of heavy metals, pesticides, and solvent testing, however with a minimal amount of research you can find many reputable brands with reliable lab testing.

Spice was made with completely synthetic cannabinoids not based off the THC structure. It was a completely different molecule with full agonist properties.

Stopped at 2:02 homie.. Sorry but the variants that you're seeing on the shelf are ALL naturally occouring cannabinoids. You are correct though, these generally are NOT as abundant in strains at high levels. That being said, they are not synthetic cannabinoids. There is a very big difference between major and minor cannabinoids like Delta-8, Delta-9 (really Dronabinol if it's converted from CBD), HHC, THC-0 AND synthetically created cannabinoids like HU-210, JWH-018, NA-PIMO and AM-678. It's very easy to get confused and think that because we converted CBD into another substance that it's Synthetic and bad...but we are converting these natural compounds into other naturally occuring compounds. When we are creating synthetic cannabinoids, there is a wildly different approach to making them and they are creating molecules that are "similar" to other molecules. Not 1:1 identical...just similar in their effects. The conversion of CBD into THC-0 creates a structurally identical molecule to that of a naturally occuring THC-0 molecule. There is 0 difference between the two of them. The only one that MIGHT be a little suspect is the conversion from CBD to Delta-9 as that is supposedly more similar to Dronabinol and not Delta-9. This information is out there and ready for you to read and share, you just have to do a little research. You don't have to like it, or use it, advocating against it with improper facts isn't cool. Take a second and realize that we use MANY different types of "extracts" on a daily basis with no ill effects, this is no different.

I get my delta 8 from a company that does independent lab testing, so I'm comfortable with it. The fact that it's converted synthetically doesn't really scare me off tbh. LSD is made synthetically in underground labs with zero regulations, and yet it remains the most popular psychedelic of all time. If you're comfortable with possessing regular bud then that's obviously preferable to these legal alternatives, but I still maintain that delta 8 is a viable alternative for people who aren't comfortable with breaking the law. I agree there needs to be more regulation on these products, but there are several brands that I'm confident are legit.

There's actually a few growers who managed to actually grow naturally high d8 flower(through selective breeding) but it costs 5x more

HHC is THC with 2 extra carbon molecules. Completely unrelated to spice. The high from HHC is fantastic. When HHC is metabolized in the body, it turns into d9. No different from THC. How can it be dangerous?

I’m not so concerned with them being converted in a lab, but I am concerned about the lack of regulations. At the end of the day the cannabinoids are the same as the ones found naturally in the plants. The process being clean is where my concern lies.

for me the deltas give me a good high without the anxiety. DEFINITELY NOT the same thing or even category of spice. delta 8/9 is like a middle ground of CBD and Cannabis for me.

My take on this based off anecdotal experience and some research. Pharmacologically speaking, most alternative cannabinoids at comparative potencies to THC (0.3x-1.5x) are so similar to D9 THC, that i can confidently say the research on D9 alone is enough to warrant these others at least as safe as D9 THC. Most of these plant-occurring/natural cannabinoids have been explored/researched extensively in humans, and other animals, both Vitro, and Vivo for nearly 90 years. Delta 8 THC (previously known in research as Delta 6 THC or D6 THC) has been discovered around 1940-1941. As a matter of fact, since some of these cannabinoids have lower potencies, and are only partial or full agonists of the same CB1 and CB2 receptors just like regular cannabis, the effect and risks are essentially the same - please note that this is only applicable for noids of similar potency. Some potent synthetic (not naturally occurring) and natural cannabinoids are extremely potent can be extremely dangerous if handled or used improperly, you could experience seizures, anxiety and stress, psychosis, internal and external hallucinations and much worse. With more regulation and less of war on drugs, all this could be made even safer, since it's not necessarily just the pharmacokinetics of a bioactive chemical that causes toxicity. Byproducts and residual solvents or reagents could still end up in your end product, and with some companies not taking it seriously enough, it has happened before where have gotten very ill or even died as a result of this. Let me know what you think, and correct me or fill me in if you want! cheers

personally im happy to just stick with thc, if its not broken, dont fix it

It’s organic chemistry, they take cbd isolate and convert the cbd with heat and pressure. They are not considered synthetic or isomers of Delta 9 thc, due to the fact that it’s coming from a natural source, if you look at HHC for example they attach a hydrogen molecule just as they do in cooking oil to make it into margarine.

I’d like to inform you that plant derived cannabinoids isolated and concentred by synthesis doesn’t mean they’re synthetic/artificial cannabinoids, and they can’t be synthetic/artificial bc they’re derived from the natural plants and not synthetic/artificial compounds. Synthetic for the listed cannabinoids means we isolated and concentrated them ourselves, not that they’re fake in the way spice is.

It's incredible for me because I can use it to better my depression without having to pay too much to maintain a medical Marijuana card and with the ability to get it legally. Do I wish I could get Delta 9 legally? Hell yes, if that were the case I probably wouldn't even have considered anything else but the realty is that this is the next best thing to help me and is far more affordable. The whole thing about it being (synthetic) doesn't really scary me away from using it. I'm pretty sure I've eaten and drunken things that are probably worse but didn't notice.

Some things I noticed using delta-8: my tolerance for all cannabinoids went WAY up to the point where real bud no longer got me high anymore. This is after using it a relatively short time 1-2 weeks. I also felt like these cannabinoids are addictive psychologically in a way that real bud is not. I noticed I was getting real anxious and edgy when I ran out. Never felt that way with real bud.

Spice is wicked man I would never touch the stuff... Delta 8 and 10 are not synthetic.....they are 100% natural and are in weed.... You just need a laboratory process to separate them from Delta 9 so just because you need a laboratory process to get get these isolated doesn't mean that there's synthetic and not natural that's like saying that protein is not natural because it's made in a laboratory yet every person who goes to the gym takes protein powder every day on the regular basis you're basis like we understand you can't just go get protein powder out of a tree and nature it has to be created in a lab But protein is something that exists in nature that our bodies need it's no different than that it's not synthetic it's natural it's just isolated and laboratory so people who don't know the difference think lab equals synthetic.

I worked in the legal cannabis industry here in the states for a number of years, and the fact that this new industry is emerging so prominently without any form of regulation scares the crap out of me. It seems like I see signs for delta 8 everywhere these days. In the state that I worked in, regulation of the industry was so over the top that it was borderline predatory towards those who actually worked in the industry. But, I'd rather regulation be over the top as opposed to falling short. That being said, this synthetic cannabinoid phenomenon is extremely concerning to me. It really is the Wild West with no mandated testing standards. This isn't even getting into the inspectors who are employed to go into production facilities or dispensaries to ensure that proper protocol and sanitation is being carried out. It is a naturally occurring cannabinoid, but by no means is it being naturally extracted. I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot stick as the industry sits now...

Good video drew, i can personally say i’ve used delta 8, delta 10, THC-P and THC-0 all of which i’ve had good experiences with and not felt any bad side effects, this is on top of also smoking regular bud beforehand. it just intensifies my high and also gives me crazy munchies lmao. i don’t like you linking it so closely to spice though because the compounds used in spice are much more toxic and deadly ( literally killing people ) with most delta 8 products you can find lab reports related to them so that calms my worries i had with them before trying them. they really aren’t bad and are worth trying atleast once in my opinion. The Chemicals found in “spice” are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to that of normal THC. they are compounds such as JWH-018, CP-47, 497-C8 and other random weird asf compounds that clearly have no close relation to actual THC. the new stuff on the market although not completely natural and organic like mary jane is as close as your gonna get to real THC

For the past month I was taking almost twice the proper dose for me of Delta-8 for sleep. For a few days I felt nervous all over inside and super cold most of time, no appetite and lost a few pounds (which I don't want to do). I figured out it was the delta 8. If you get the right dose, it works very well. However, I believe some people can't handle using it like one of my friends.

I work under the umbrella of the FAA, Federal Aviation Agency. I used to have my medical card in Oklahoma, but I let it expire bc of this; bc Delta 9 thc still isn’t legal federally in the US. I need Delta 8, which is naturally occurring. It has the same amount of atoms (meaning an isomer of) as Delta 9. It’s just a derivative. I’d rather do that than drink myself to sleep every night. I can’t do that anymore. I’m 40 now. I have more than enough anxiety, ptsd, and stress to deal with.

I've lived in a spice infested hood, I sell hemp-based THC at my store, and am a daily pot and delta-8 user, so I've seen what all three do, and you really are comparing apples to oranges. I've seen plenty of spice overdoses, yet I've never heard a single bad thing about delta-8 or THC-O other than "It'S sYnThEtiC" (which was told to me by a man smoking a Juul.) Now, I would like to edit that some HHC devices I've used IN THE PAST have had a hint of that unmistakable spice smell, which was worrisome, but even then I've yet to hear of or personally have had a negative experience.

This take has some much common sense in it. I will not try these new variants because of this vid. Thanks drew

"This might be a hot take but... HAHA (awkward look-away)" At that point most people would realize they are reacting with emotion and then research their opinions instead of relying on thay gut feeling. Just because a chemical isn't found naturally doesn't mean it isn't useful or unsafe. And yes, creating chemical compounds has been around forever and millions of peoppe take prescriptions of those daily. Yes, even with scary "acid". Even alkaline soap is dangerous. Finally, trying to equate this all to spice is ridiculous. We'd know by now if they were that dangerous. This is how new drugs work. Some people or scientists are brave enough to test it and we figure out what it does. Brush your teeth.

Maybe they should just federally legalized Delta 9 so that people don't have to smoke all these concoctions to avoid getting in trouble with the law

I understand your concerns however I don't fully agree they're applicable here. Spice was an entirely lab derived compound, without any base ingredients from what they were actually trying to analogue. I do however agree there needs to be stricter testing before these get in the hands of consumers with auditable results that we can verify ourselves.

There’s a very big difference between spice and thc variants. These variants come from the plant they are part of the plant, they are not naturally extracted but spice is simply chemicals they were not cannabinoids or related to cannabinoids I could make spice in my kitchen with my oven and various cleaning supplies if I wanted to

I'd love to see Woodie's take on this. The man seems to know his chemistry and I'd love to hear an informed take. If you guys are in touch, maybe you could shoot him a message? I really wanna hear what he has to say

Moral is.. just smoke clean weed.. f smoking synthetic substances that you don't have a clue about

Bro, what? Cannabis has over 150 types of cannabinoids! You’re tripping, go research

I just remembered the 2007-2011 or so, headshops full on using the general public as Guinea pigs. People developing psychosis from 'spice', 'pollen', 'King bee', having major bad trips from those and other powder substitutes; it was mad because as you say none of that was regulated- and it was genuinely safer to just take the (also unknown )but slightly more reliable blackmarket drugs.

I definitely agree with you on most things! From my knowledge spice wasn‘t actually based on THC tho, but instead was like kind of a completely artificially recreated thing or something. Good Video, thank you for getting out the knowledge!

Stumbled across this in suggested. I have no idea what you’re talking about but your eyes are amazing 👁 👄 👁

This idea did cross my mind a few times but im glad drew came in with a banger video. I think I’ll try thc-O just out of curiosity but so far none of these variants have had any noticeable effects on me so it peaks my interest

Not saying that I'd mess with this stuff, but I personally don't care if a substance is "natural". Loads of shit we consume every day is pure chemicals, but with drugs it seems to freak people out. That said, I won't be doing these synthetics until there's more proof of them being safe. But yea I don't see why people care if drugs are natural.

HHC is natural occurring, it happens in such small amounts that scientists have to synthesize it, but all noids used in order to make hhc are all natural occurring as well

I understand the concerns, and respect them. But my view is, all of these things are already inside the plant, so re creating them, although it makes them "synthetic," is simply using the plant for everything it has to offer in a modern, medicinal manner. All pharmaceutical medications are synthetically created, but most of us still take them when we need them, because we realize the benefits. There's so much to offer with what these cannabinoids can do medicinally, which is personally why I favor these products. I don't think it's comparable to spice. There are federal regulations and lab testing in place for these cannabinoids products that did not exist for spice.

Totally agree mate.. there’s a reason why the plant has naturally evolved the way it has. I believe that we need all of the 100+ cannabinoids found naturally in the plant to balance out the effects. When you start to isolate the individual elements it’s gonna have a massive impact on the effect and personally I don’t see it as a good thing. But each to their own.

sounds more like its synthetically extracted and concentrated rather than made in a bathtub, but no one will truely know until its regulated, they could just as likely be using natural acids or process's...its a mystery

For anyone wondering he’s not chatting shit, I got addicted to smoking “thc bottles” for £20 which I thought was a bargain but when I stopped smoking after a couple weeks I had withdrawals like vomiting and sweats whilst sleeping and vivid dreams. Be careful guys with what you smoke

I work in the industry over here in the states and it's the "wild, wild, west" when it comes to all these "alt cannabinoids"-companies selling their products. Something like 70% of tested CBD, D8, D10, etc. products from a *bunch* of different companies tested were found to have an unhealthy/dangerous amount of pesticides, metals, etc. I also see companies do this sneaky thing where they'll get one single lab test done for a particular batch, then uses that one single lab test as what's given out to all customers in their online shop even though customers are purchasing completely different batches. The issue is there are ZERO regulations or safety guidelines and it's in that legal grey area. Who knows what this means for people's lungs in the long-term, especially all those D8 users experiencing chest discomfort buying from questionable vendors, the sad truth is *most* places will cut corners to the detriment of YOUR health. You even have completely misinformed people buying hemp flower now with SPRAYED D8 mystery distillate. There are no studies on this stuff, we truly don't know what this means 10+ years from now. I'm all for this stuff, but in time and with more safety regulations in place. It's honestly fantastic for you to at least put these questions out there and not do what everyone else is doing, it really shows a lot about where your priorities are.

I'm so glad you are reminding people of what this stuff is. I am going to upload a video of my experience over the past year. I now discourage anyone from taking it because of what its done to me.

Please elaborate what kind of "acid" bro? They mix acid into your water to change the ph.. Please clarify

I’m with you man, natural extracts from a plant is one thing but to change a molecules ‘DNA’ as it were, by soaking it in acid seems dodge.

Pure D8 distillate is derived using a synthesis of lab methods, but the end result is *not* a "synthetic" product. When people say d8 is "synthetic" they are wrong and misinformed. It is an extraction which yields a concentrate. Same as the vape pens of D9 concentrate everyone uses, people in a lab do the extraction and concentrations using chemicals which ( if done properly) are eliminated from the final product . *D8 is safe if you purchase from a safe company*. Just do a bit of research on the company you purchase from. Again- *Pure d8 distillate is just as safe as pure d9 distillate*

Bro is just yapping Pls educate urself drew Ur paranoia from spice is clearly fogging ur judgement

Yes, *spice* is a type of cannabinoid, but the big difference is that these new delta variants are no where near those randomly put together molecules. It's just THC with a *sliiightly* different bond. HHC for example can be made in pretty much the same way that vegetable oil is turned into margarine, but most if not all HHC isn't made from THC. Rather it's made from CBD that requires a multistep process to change the molecule into what's wanted. Because of this the only thing that you should be concerned about is if there's any "shitty chemicals" left in the solution from the process. Why it's made from CBD? Well CBD is legal pretty much worldwide. And because HHC structure is *juuust* different enough from THC it to is legal almost everywhere. So it's a way to get high legally from weed. And I for one would much rather smoke something that has a lab screening to prove it's contents than some black-market products. It's the whole make it legal, regulated and safe situation. At least here in Sweden the police is really ruthless when it comes to smoking, so something that won't show on a test is amazing.. But yeah I totally understand your worries.

You make a few good points, but there are some serious misconceptions in this video as well. To begin with, I think you are absolutely right to call out vendors who claim these novel cannabinoids are 'natural'. The likely benefits of a 'natural' cannabinoid are the safety of an implied 'history of human use', as well as safety from chemical contamination. Even if they can technically be found in nature, these novel cannabinoids meet neither of these criteria - they have little to no history of human use, and those available on the market are created through chemical synthesis instead of extraction. However, your comparison with these novel cannabinoids to older synthetic cannabinoids is completely unfounded. There is a pretty clear structural difference between Delta-8-THC, which differs from Delta-9-THC by the placement of only one double bond, and something like AMB-FUBINACA, which has virtually nothing in common chemically with Delta-9-THC. Most of the novel cannabinoids you mention are derived from 'classical cannabinoids', and therefore are more likely to have a similar mechanism of action, metabolic pathways, and safety profile to THC, CBD, etc. Case in point, the major hazard of synthetic cannabinoids is that many of them act as 'full agonists' - drugs which have a high intrinsic activity at cannabinoid receptors. THC, on the other hand is a partial agonist, with reduced intrinsic activity, which confers a sort of 'ceiling effect' on its pharmacological activity. Some of the more studied novel cannabinoids have also been found to be partial agonists, like THC - including the popular Delta-8-THC (see Bow and Rimoldi's 'The Structure-Function Relationships of Classical Cannabinoids'). Also note that this property is different from 'potency', which often refers to the binding affinity of a drug. There are some synthetic cannabinoids that actually have binding affinities that are comparable to or lower than that of THC - yet are still more dangerous due to being full agonists. Potency in this sense is almost irrelevant - it merely defines what the appropriate dosage is. Another misconception is that the quality of every novel cannabinoid is unreliable because they are unregulated. While it is true that there are some shady labs and vendors out there, many are much more reputable and provide enough evidence to confirm that these substances are what they claim to be. You ask 'who knows if the tests on their websites are real or not?' - but you can easily find this out. Most tests are done with third-party labs, many of whom primarily do business in the pharmaceutical industry and have a reputation to uphold. You can easily call the lab and ask them to confirm the authenticity of a certificate analysis you get from a company selling novel cannabinoids. Overall, I think it's best to take additional precautions if you want to try novel cannabinoids, and there is definitely more risk with them compared to regular, natural cannabis. However, if one chooses to use cannabinoids like Delta-8-THC or THCV or THC-O-acetate, which are structurally similar to Delta-9-THC and have been the subject of sufficient research, and also if one acquires them from reputable vendors which provide verifiable certificates of analysis from reputable labs, then there is not all that much more risk compared to using regular cannabis. Certainly, there is not nearly as much risk as using the 'alphabet soup' synthetic cannabinoids which were popular a decade ago.

Spice is NOTHING like delta 8 or any of the other cannabinoids. This video is very misleading.

I work with some big labs in EU & US, quite interesting to see your perspective. Due to the hemp bill in 2018 a cannabiond like HHC is actually compliant in the EU & US markets. Its actually not impossible to see a D8 & D9 hemp derived HHC extract, the process is adding a hydrogen process then some solvents, solvents can be found in good batches of isolates like CBN, CBG & CBN but in Non-Detectable amounts. HHC is very popular in UK, EU & Japan if the documents are correct. Keep up the videos would be nice to speak one day!

And yet a simple fix is to legalize weed and then everything else disappears. Until then D8, HHC and THC-O will continue to keep me from losing my mind and screaming at everyone I know because of the constant stress of life and work. Also worth mentioning THC-P which is said to be 30x stronger than D9.

Glad to hear you putting this out! More people need to be!

Um so I was concerned on the same topic so I did my research and upon my research. How you make regular carts of THC from the dispensary is basically the same with delta 8 except the fact that there is more of a temperature controlled in certain areas, to where with regular thc you there is less control temperature due to the fact that you’re not converting anything but simply separating impurities. Organic synthesis…the first word is literally organic. Natural. I learned all this from an organic/natural chemical industry that parters with governments. They love to break down how things work and test peoples products to ensure safety, even without regulations some companies go as far as providing lab results. Those companies are the ones you should trust. Also, with that being said if you do order those products. All good trust worthy websites will have a “LAB” page so you can view all their lab results for the products they sell.

My buddy is a chemical engineer in the US and got involved in making some of these and got out because of how unregulated it is, how very few purge the solvents or distill off the nasty compounds/acids. Shady as fuck

Yea you’re buggin if you think spice and all these new cannabinoids are the same. These new cannabinoids are synthetically derived but NATURALLY exist. Spice from the 09-12 era were cathinones and shit that we went on to call BATH SALTS. Not the same, AT ALL.

I live in a recreational state but I love alt-cannabinoids. I use a blend of Delta-8/Delta-10/Thc-O and HHC(28 grams of each in one mason jar). Stirred up real good with a heated magnetic stirrer and some CDT terpenes. Then I mix that blend(I call it the four horsemen) with a full spectrum CBD blend. I only use it through carts and edibles and have found no negative affects in the past year of daily use. It's very important to have a reliable COA, but otherwise their not dangerous like spice or anything. I hope to add some THC-P to my mix soon. I convert my recreational delta-9 consentrates (wax,rosin,shatter,etc) to carts anyway, and find that my four horsemen mix really let's me stretch out my recreational delta-9 carts. They way they all interact with each other is very interesting.

I’ve been using delta 8 thc for over year and half. And I’m perfectly okay, helps with my pain.

300% more potent doesn't mean 300X as potent

Semi-synthetic cannabinoids like d8 or hhc are derived and have a very similar structure to d9, K2/spice is a completely different structure and backbone, they just target similar/the same receptors. Edit: Although every compound synthetic or natural should be researched on safety and potential side effects from d9 - AB-FUBINACA as this can be a slippery slope to dangerous shit.

I've been vaping 70-85% delta 8 oil all day every day for 3 months and im fine. actually less short term memory loss than i normally get from delta 9. id say its generally safe. just always make sure you can verify a lab test so you know the potency, cause i still wouldnt trust any contaminents, but if you can always shoot for that 70-85%, thats what most street dabs are anyways

Spice was completely synthetic, it had nothing to do with thc and you could make it with house held items. Spice was pretty much meth. Delta 8 is totally different. I think that hair dye got to your head

I live in FL and ik for a fact one of the companies here that are no good is Utoya. There are only 2 hemp companies I could find that have complete SAFETY testing for human consumption. Whom ever reads this please do not fall for a simple cannabinoid test (ex: cbn 3%, delta 9 .01%) that tells you nothing. You need to look for companies that do through tests such as heavy metal, residual solvents, pesticides etc. And dont just accept a lab test they provide. Double check with the lab and if its for the current batch you are buying. A test in March of 2022 for example isnt relevant for you buying a product many months or a year in the future. I am ALL for heavy regulations on what is essentially a synthetic cannabinoid black market. Many fakes copying real companies, many only showing you cannabinoids, others not testing at all, others provide tests that aren’t even theirs! It is safe to say that there is not a single product in any shop, yes I mean vape shop, gas stations etc, that are safe. Heck, even dispos get infiltrated because of lack of regulation in the hemp industry and legal loopholes. I’d be the first one advocating for a crackdown on these extremely dangerous products. The more people think they are ok and use them the more cases of injuries and deaths and all for saving a few dollars on testing. Then the people who dont know any better will try to ban hemp all together. For clarification, it is not the actual products themselves that are harmful like d8 thc with a few exceptions (hhc, thc-o, basically any cannabinoid that isnt natural and was produced by man), it is the lack of through safety procedures as a result of lax regulations in the industry that render the products harmful. Cutting agents like Vitamin E and Phytol have not gone away which is gravely disturbing. The 2 companies known to entire reddit post communities are: Wyld Cbd, Receptra Naturals. Ik, no flower, distillates, edibles or anything else fun. But again, this is the case specifically for HEMP. You are much better off going to dispos and getting marijuana. Thanks to heavy regulation straight up mj is a lot safer as far as contaminants. Below I will put the name of the various posts where I derived my information from. Read it throughly and go down a little rabbit hole, see for yourself on products you’ve used or whatever and you’ll see its not just made up. www.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn1xi9/whats_in_fakescounterfeits/? www.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/n1n4f4/clean_hemp_and_cbd_brands/? www.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/10eqkmi/opinions_on_ghost_hemp_co_analysis/?

I'm still wondering where natural=good and synthetic=bad came from...that said, I've tried the different 'spices' and the new cannabinoids out now and there is a huge difference between the two as far as effect and side-effect.

Dude I make this stuff in a professional lab and it's extremely safe! Way safer than buying sketchy crats and dabs of the street! For alot of people this stuff works better is easier to get and way cheaper. Plus as long as your getting it from a trusted supplier they are doing around $800 worth of lab testing on it before it gets to you!

this is honestly the best take on synthetics period.

This was probably the most uneducated way to explain this that I’ve seen. It depends on the source and the manufacturing process. Those saying stick to weed don’t seem to understand there’s people in the world who follow the laws where they live and have no other option.

Been using all of the above for several years. They are all perfectly safe. However, I stick with D8 simply because its weaker than the rest. Once I build a tolerance to D8 I know its time to take a break for a week. The other, stronger stuff makes you want it more and also makes you have the munchies a lot more. D8 is plenty fine for weekend use.

This is kind of an L take man. First of all they’re semi synthetics, which means it’s a compound synthesized using a natural product. Comparing it to spice is just ignorant, it’s not even remotely close to the same thing. Spice contains completely different compounds to THC, not derived from it either. Typically the chemical compounds in spice include HU-210, HU-211, JWH-018, and JWH-073. I mean you have a good point about not being able to trust the process, but comparing it to spice is a bad take

All I can say is a 250mg of a Delta-8 edible made me feel better than I’ve ever felt in years. During and the day after…

I see a guy with green hair always skating around my town haha I keep thinking it’s you

Thca is actually the most natural form of thc. Thca is what the plant produces when growing, it converts to thc once heat is applied.

I’ve been smoking delta 8 for abt 6 months straight and you gain a tolerance hella fast.Its def not as strong as weed but it does feel like a weed high.

I tried some and it honestly made me just as high as regular ol delta 9 THC. I didn't really like the effect. Granted I had an edible, which I historically have a harder time with. I felt a sudden sense of my eyes being uncoordinated, feeling "slurry", as though I was drunk on a 6 pack or so, dry mouth, a bit of dizziness. Initially I felt my heart, and it was beating faster than normal, then the opposite started.

I nearly died after a single bong hit of a synthetic spice type thing called annihilation, bought from an online Manchester based store back in 2015. I was found screaming in my bedroom by my father, and I projectile vomited everywhere, my heart went fast and skipped beats, and I had this bizarre hallucination trip about different alien civilizations having wars over thousands of years, hard to explain to be honest. Lasted for several hours and eventually the ambulance turned up and said I had probably had a heart attack after listening to my chest. I went to the hospital and had an ECG check done, but I don't think anyone paid much attention to the results. I wouldn't mess with synthetic or partially synthetic cannabinoids again unless it was well known to be safe. I do wonder how many weed vape pens have dodgey stuff in them though.

Drew ive had so many arguments about this its unbelievable, gets me how the government doesn't want weed legalisation to happen YET but will let these man-made chemicals slip through the net..I'M STILL TRYING TO GET MORE SIGNATURES ON THE CANNABIS LEGALISATION PETITIONS ,ONLINE FOR PARLIAMENT ALL THE TIME. COME ON PEOPLE

Spice is a completely different movie bruv.

honestly delta 8 and and thc o have a strong indica like effect that helps to nullify pain similiar to indica and straight indica dominant extracts. sure smoking too much like more than a couple hits can fuck you up pretty hard but i dont know if its any more toxic than drinking to be honest

Just be careful of brands. “Legal thc” really comes down to if a company is transparent or not. If it has a QR code and proper warnings on the device, the company probably has nothing to hide.

delta 8 is a good alternative from delta 9 if you can't handle it. I've done both for so long, there's nothing wrong with delta 8.

I have been using these hemp-derived THC variants for almost 2 years now and all I can tell you is that they are equal if not better than traditional cannabis. Whether the THC in these products are natural or not is irrelevant. I doubt that these variants are less healthy for you than cannabis. So you decide for yourself what you should try or not.

The interaction on this video is astonishing....love to see it thanks infinitely drew 💜

I agree with a lot of this, but have you looked at THC-A? because its basically just non activated D9..that turns to D9 as soon as heat is applied.. so its the one of new that IMO is actually as safe as true cannabis... thoughts?

As someone who smokes homemade synth I agree with this, if you wouldn’t make it with the certain chemicals that companies use than don’t use it at all because it’s unknown, at least I have an idea of what will come back to haunt me and I can’t use the excuse if I didn’t know when it I did

Being someone who just recently got a disposable device filled with a whole lot of these loop whole THC variants and after having used it for a few days found myself needing to gasp to take a full breath along with irritation in my lungs and a cough that only subsided after not using the device for about 48 hours this video is eye opening

TBH it really reminds me of the whole RC thing that happened in Poland in the early 2000's, one substance gets banned, people create a new one slightly altering the previous, thus making it not illegal. It's a shame so many influencers advertise it without considering the side effects it may have on people that trust them.

1:55 My background and training is in the field of pharmacy. This guy has ZERO medical expertise - remember that. And hes actually bordering on disinformation at 1:55. While the part about delta8 not being present in high quantities is true, its misleading to call it "synthetic." Its not IN ANY WAY, synthetic in the way that the true synthetic marijuana that was briefly sold before being banned in the mid 2000s. Delta 8 is extracted from CBD which is as safe as delta 9 and other naturally occurring vatiants. Dont listen to this uninformed opinion. Base your stance on science and evidence - not the opinions of ppl with no higher education degree in a relevant field. EDIT: See, im already finding commenta from ppl the poster has already confused. Ppl are comparing delta 8 to k2 or "spice" - those are the TRUE synthetics i mentioned. Delta 8 is infinitely closer to CBD & delta9 than k2 or "spice." To the poster: you should take this video DOWN.

Delta 8 THC is natural and can occur during certain distillation process

They’re not like spice 🤣🤣🤣

I have never seen your channel but your stance on Delta 8 just got you another subscriber dude screw that stuff stay all-natural with natural mushrooms and natural marijuana thank you and have a nice day

Spice is much different than delta 8 or even 0 in processes and is not safe for the body. As far as my knowledge has gone there has been zero cases of overdoses or heart related issues with o or 8

STAY CLEAR OF ANY SYNTHETIC WEED. ITS NOT NATURAL FOR THE HUMAN BODY TO PROCESS LIKE REAL BUD . THE STRENGTHS OF SYNTHETIC IS ABNORMALLY HIGH

He's right to say these are synthetically made cannabinoids but they also started out with a natural substance so I don't think the spice comparison is entirely justified. Spice was absolutely nothing like weed. The only real parallel is rolling it up and smoking it. It didn't taste like weed, smell like it, it didn't hit your throat like weed and the adverse effects were pretty damn near immediate in large groups. Practically the same week that my group of friends and I started trying it back in the day, people started fainting, having bad trips, getting headaches for days on end etc. Pretty much, we bought it in the middle of one week, met up at the beginning of the next week in one big group again and practically every small group of friends in that large group had a bad story to tell.

Wow, to be honest I live in Illinois and I'm seeing all these new products everywhere and really haven't gave it much thought to what's actually in any of them. Many of my friends just get them and say, if it's good enough to be in stores and legal it's perfectly fine to use. This is mind-blowing 🤯 I really appreciate you making this video to get the facts out there. Love your videos by the way ❤❤❤

The real concern should be what other chemicals can be found in these synthesized products. Hemp is very good at pulling heavy metals and toxins from the air/soil so that could later be concentrated into a "delta 8 dab" that is the real concern heavy metals and other pollutants especially when there is little to no regulation at all.

Dope hair bro! That’s why I’m watching your video instead of others 💯

I tried delta 8, delta 0 and delta 10 (Keep in mind i smoke the real stuff often.) Even though they claim delta 0 is "3x stronger" than delta 9, and i prepared for this by taking a smaller hit and it did nothing. So i waited and took more, and more, and it didn't do shit. Delta 9 oil would have you zooted off one hit. Delta 8 is "alright" probably the most effective of the bunch. It gets you considerably less high than 9 but its also a different high, you don't get as much of that creeping anxiety and paranoia, its easier to keep your head together in public so if you want something legal and easy to use for on the go delta 8 will do the job alright. Delta 10 is trash though, makes u feel off but not in a good way. Like the man said the process of extracting these is not natural and i recommend regular weed. My concern that i dont see many people bring up is because these chemicals only naturally occur in the plant at low .001 percent ect, wouldn't extracting it to a 95% oil be thousands and thousands of times overkill? We don't know if these substances can cause issues like Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome faster than regular cannabis or even have undiscovered consequences down the line.

I think I need to make a video on this because I have so many thoughts as a person who works in a vape shop and sells all of these variants. I don't disagree with you at all, in fact I'm probably going to recommend this video because you summed it up fantastically. But this is the k2 (spice) craze all over again. I've spoken directly with these companies that make the products - and whether you get it from a gas station or a "trusted" vape shop, all of it is suspicious, please do your research because me, the companies, and anyone selling this to you do NOT know what they're talking about, I PROMISE you that.

Hemp bio mass is distilled to separate delta 8 from the original product no acid is used unless you are talking about thc-o in any case asid is used to extract caffeine from coffee so... what's your point are you going to make a video about why you don't use mio or drink energy drinks too??

i am 18 years old, and i was diagnosed with PTSD when I was 13. i have been through dozens and dozens of different medication for PTSD, and nothing has really helped, some making it worse. the only thing that I have found that helps, is weed. i can’t get dispensary weed in the United States, because you have to be 21 or older to do so. sometimes, delta eight is the only thing i can get my hands on (because the age limit is 18+) and i hope that it’s safe because it’s the only remedy i have to my PTSD

I've used HHC for about a month straight up until last week because I wanted to stick with old school d9 thc and stop using it just in case and I will say I've had a heck of a head ache for days now. Not migraine levels but just tension behind my eyes.

Comparing these to designer drugs isnt fair. They're completely different circumstances.