why i use old laptops ! (as a university student) 

if you don't need 1080p then yeah it's honestly great, and i'd still be using it to this day if it was for that. honestly one of their last good laptops.

ty xd

fuck yeah!! make sure you don't do like, any programming on it though. it's an actual pain LOL.

@@tokisuno hahah no worries! i just got it for some light work (and to look cool ) i'm typing on it now :). Its even better than expected!

@@Gezeehhh heck yes !!!

Also just picked up an x61 recently! Installed Middleton bios, ssd, repasted cpu, and I’m planning on trying to put a WiFi 6 card in it, not sure if it’s gonna work tho. I’ve also installed Linux mint Xfce, unfortunately I’m having some issues with it though so I might switch to the cinnamon desktop environment. Overall, it’s a pretty fun laptop to use just for some basic productivity :]

@@tokisuno the little touches of color on the laptop is amazing, reminds me of the super glossy vibrant 2009-2013 era of laptop design

my dad used to have a powerbook g3 and good god that keyboard felt nice. ik what you mean.

Do you just use a flash drive to move assignments to something more modern so you can actually submit?

@@crystalraptor195 all of our submissions are done online.

dope !

4:3 is a lot more focused since you don't have other places to look. but also, you can achieve this by just learning to live with the discomfort of not having everything open at once to appear busy/productive.

I find 16:10 great as well. It's also about overall resolution and the macbook pros from the era are also great for focus.

I like 3:2 most. 4:3 is very cool but can't stand it for too long haha. Also bc of ADHD... bc I want to be extremly quick/instant with everything otherwise my brain slows down (lacks dopamin) and 4:3 laptops are slow even on linux. with my T601p Frankenpad i could install a fast enough CPU but I'd need to change panels, too since it just doesn't get above 90 Nits anymore. And yeah for my work I have to to a tooooon of research with 30+ tabs. So 3:2 is the best of both worlds for me while 16:10 is kinda ok. 16:9 ist the worst for me, can't stand any 16:9 laptop ^^ just good for media consumption which is not the no.1 thing I want to do with a laptop. That said my X61 is my most beloved Laptop lol. It has a T8100 with BSEL-mod @3,06 GHz, 8 GB DDR2 and an SSD and it's kinda fast enough with AntiX linux. XGA still bothers me a bit while i find the sxga+ ips screen from the x61 tablet wonderful. Planning to upgrade to that. The formfactor and looks of the x61 are just too cool ^^ and yeah the keyboard. + like I said 4:3 is at least better than 16:9 or 16:10 to me so I don't use an x200 or x220. In linux I can even run 1080p youtube but with some dropped frames while 720p is smooth!

hell yeah

it's a real thinkpad. is it a thinkpad? then it's a thinkpad. anyone who says otherwise is weird and elitist. and yeah i don't use the crt for anything other than slippi now LOL.

thank you so much! glad i can inspire someone else to dive into old thinkpads :D

i kinda miss the boxy design since it made going inside and fixing things a lot easier. i also miss not having 16:9 everywhere but that's a story for another time

@@tokisuno something weird imo is that late 90s early 2000s laptops didin't follow the postmodern design incredibly popular in architecture and interior design and design in general at the time, XP kind of felt like that

@@circleinforthecube5170 true

thank you emperor ming

that battery must be toast at this point if it's that old no?

@@tokisuno yup, I only use it connected to the power outlet, because the only purpose of the battery is to maintain the laptop leveled. But one thing is for sure, this laptop was never opened to fix anything.

@ LOL have you repasted and/or upgraded it in any way?

@@tokisuno never did a single thing to it, just plug in and use it. Although it no longer runs Windows XP like in the old days, around 15 years ago I started using Linux, currently it has Lubuntu.

@ 15 years ago?? dude that's crazy. i was 6 when you started using linux LMAO

beast

whatever works works xd

huh

I wholeheartedly agree with you (I’m 41 years old); however, my laptop is a quite bulky and heavy Acer from 2017, which I’ve had to lug almost daily between my house and my dad’s… I have been progressively using my iPad for productivity in order to keep the laptop at home; let me tell you, not having to carry a heavy laptop around is a relief. Some creature comforts are justified; that said, if I still had to lug the laptop around, I’d not complain

huh

You got some major issues if you think having convenience in the context of less weight regresses your manhood.

Yeah just when people complain about a thick laptop and thick bezel? Is people these days have weaker muscle?

heck yeah brother

gg

aw thanks ! be prepared. i am uploading either today or tomorrow

aw thanks !

@@tokisuno ofc ☺️

ILY

atm antix because i don't daily drive it anymore and i wanted to test the distro.

you use arch btw

and then id still be dealing with my big heavy macbook with a defective battery. sounds like a loss to me.

como que estan imposible?

@@tokisuno los costos estamos muy devaluados y todo muy caro pagamos más del doble de lo que salen

Ahora conseguí una thinkerpad t400 estoy muy feliz me gusta mucho

@@ikssadrone8307 ay chucha

@@ikssadrone8307 es demasiado grande no?

okay maybeee a little too far ... LOL

based

shut up son

sowwy

@@steamline432 xd

wooooo

tyty

rstudio gamer

@@tokisuno Based :)

kieran please no.

@@tokisuno it will rape your CPU which will make it impossible to multitask (Increased productivity) 😃

@@happygofishing you must be insane if you thought i'd find this comment funny.

you missed a major point of this, which is the fact that you can use lightweight minimal software and still do 90% of what you do. you can't stray away over to distractions if your cpu can't physically handle them LMAO. and yeah i swapped off my x61 because i started doing data analysis in R. you don't have to go to an extreme like a core 2 duo, but older laptops generally are better bang for your buck. i don't see how it's outrageous to think that finding a cheap x1c6 or a t470 is a good deal. if someone overpaid for an x61 because of my video, that's not on me. that's on them. i literally got mine for free. my x220 i got for $70 and i used it for almost a year. i only upgraded because i needed a 1080p display. in work-based environments, they'll give you a laptop so you won't have a choice. most schooling can be done on an underpowered chromebook. i don't see the point in this comment. people will be hobbyists and pick up something because of youtube videos. communities form through this. who cares man.

@@tokisuno I can understand if your constantly distracted by social or technology based interferences while trying to work/study. But buying some outdated 10+ year old laptop to circumvent that just seems a little extreme in modern times? There's a multitude of other ways to fix your attention span then these closed of and honestly ridiculous methods. Also $70 for that thing was honestly a ripoff imo. You were better of just saving that and then buying a slimmer, superior laptop that would be future proof. I'm just honestly surprised at the recent trend of posts/videos of young people buying these outdated devices, that were honestly pretty terrible for their time. Like where do you all come from lol? But you do you I guess...

​@@jupiterapollo4985i didn't buy it, it was given to me. and $70 CAD for the i7 x220 is pretty good. you have to remember i am canadian, so my dollar is different. i remember i had another commentor on another video saying my $15/m phone plan was a scam for what i paid for without knowing the dollar value (the scam part is still true but for a multitude of canadian political reasons). are you also aware that not everyone has the means and the funds available to get something as quickly and optimally as you see fit? everyone's life situation is different. it's a ridiculous method to you and that's fine, but you're knocking over people for experimenting with things they're interested in. im sorry you feel so personally vindicated by people enjoying older tech in the study space. people learn their own ways and figure out their processes and ideals through trial and error. i have a setup now that could not run on my x61 anymore, and that's fine. but it can run on basically anything else. i wouldn't have gotten there if i hadn't experimented with thinkpads and linux. it's a process. also saying that the old line of thinkpads were "terrible for their time" is insane of you to say.

@tokisuno No hate. But, 1366x768: Awful resolution for basically anything TNT display: Terrible visual display (washed out colours, etc) and angles. Battery: Very, very low battery life even with 9cell. Touchpad: Awufl touchpad! The thing is basically unusable. The Track point is still good, but the fact that the touchpad is that bad is insane. Keyboard: Mediocre. I know it's subjective and the thinkpad fandom is very vocal, but the newer chicklet keys are just superior. The only good thing about that laptop was that It was a pretty small form factor for the time and was quite upgradable. But the reality is by time you upgrade that thing with a 9cell battery, Ips display, more ram, better cpu, you're still stuck with a pretty mediocre laptop with a terrible resolution and a bunch of money lost that could have gone to something better. It's just not very good.

i agree with everything but the keyboard. i can agree to disagree with 1366x768 because yeah, it's bad. but for most things it really isn't that bad. it's very usable. the whole idea behind buying older thinkpads is that you can find good deals on them for cheap, that's all. they're just a known brand which get tossed out by businesses when they go out of business, making them easy to find for cheaper online. another bit point you're missing is that it doesn't have to be thinkpads. it's just what's common, and now that thinkpads are becoming more expensive second hand, it's harder to find good deals for them. the point is, you can buy second hand business laptops for a fraction of the price that do probably 90% of what you want your laptop to do if all you do is study and do ligthweight coding. i don't think that's an insane viewpoint to stand by..

id prefer an x60 just for that, however the processor is a potato

2gb of ram and a core 2 due is never a good sign for multitasking. having 4gb of ram minimum was enough for my second year of uni. i think using an underpowered computer helped me get into deep focus more honestly, since i literally couldn't do anything else but study on the computer. like, that's all it could handle. not being able to multitask like i can with my desktop was a plus. shoutout to your grandma

i sadly am not using my x61 at the moment because i have to be able to use R to compute bigger datasets. if i didn't take a programming course i would be completely fine with it. the x61s is pretty sick tho. glad to see someone else in the 4:3 gang B)

Although, one has to admit, Windows 11 sucks fr.

hype

windows 7 was fine, we should've never let it stop being updated

@@circleinforthecube5170 that's a pipe dream but yeah.

@@tokisuno in a world with open source windows is the same world where they solved the suburbs and where they have free food

I've been considering revamping my x61 into a personal writing device recently, but haven't gotten around to it since the tools I use currently require modern OpenGL which sucks :/

wifi card can be replaced pretty easily for aftermarket cards. the screen is pretty shit yeah, but usable if you're in a well lit room most of the time. my main problem with it is the fan, which can also be replaced and oiled (im lazy). how are the thermals and power consumption on the i7 x230? they're terrible on the x220.

@@tokisuno Wifi card isn't the problem in itself, it's location is. I've tried with another one, nothing changed. X230 with i7-3612qe is actually cooler, quieter, and has lower power consumption than X220, and the original X230 i7-3520m. I have X220 too, it's fan is always spinning, loud, hot, and power consumption often spikes up to 30+ watts just for web browsing. You can limit your cpu to 30-50% usage with TLPUI, battery life should be better. I managed 6+ hours with my X230 and 89Wh battery (mixed use). It's a bit slower, but for reading documents and writing it's almost no difference, being down clocked to 1.2Ghz, you can even watch 1080p videos (and it decently outperforms X220). Is i7-3612qe worth the investment of 200$? Depends. I got mine much cheaper anyway. Default X230 is better than X220 for sure.

arm so no

that's awesome! you love to see it.

that's awesome! are you sure it isn't me? LMAO

epic

value village goes hard tbh

that x61 uses a core 2 duo and runs mint + i3 completely fine, so you should be fine. the wm/de REALLY matters when you're trying to squeeze for performance on old machines.

xubuntu isn't really minimalist, but glad you're having fun w it big guy

ssd and make sure it has 12-16 gigs of ram. that's about it tbh.

just sharing my interests online. whether or not that turns me into a hipster is up to what others think, but i don't really care.

Who tf asked u

:3

@@МартинТемелакиев That's the kind of point of RU-vid? Who tf asked you to be on HIS channel, where he can literally put whatever he wants (it's his little blog - it's his "house" and you're inside it, and you're asking HIM "who asked?")? Do some reflection mate... Don't like it? Get out!

@@TomiThemself chillout , baby

hell yes

in canada, there's a difference between college and university. i go to university, so i say university. also yea using low resource laptops as typewriters is epic. good on you

@@tokisunoI was not aware of there being a difference in uni/college in Canada! Of course, if I'd done my due-diligence I might have realized you're in Canada and then I really wouldn't have thought anything of it anyway lol. Here in the States there is no difference, so the assumption here is that if you're calling it university you're being a touch pretentious, like using a fake British accent. No offense intended, just ignorantly curious. 😁

@@k.b.tidwell we are the more british north american country after all xd. colour. neighbour. travelled.

@@k.b.tidwell isin't there a difference in the states? i swear college and uni are different

nice

wenas xd. i use linux mint 20.3 (me da paja actualizarse xd) with the i3 window manager. i have the same config on both my x61 and x220 with the only difference being what terminal i use, since the x61 is too old and doesn't have the proper openGL (i think it needs 2.1 but it uses 1.4) version to run kitty (my terminal of choice). suerte che boludo xd

@@tokisuno jajajajajajja estoy buscando la misma PC acá pero no logro dar con el modelo :(

@@ikssadrone8307 scuffed mercado argentino xd

that's dope man. glad to hear o7

no worries !

dope

on god 4:3 is so nice for just, focus writing.

welcome to old thinkpad gang.

@@tokisuno Been with the gang since I got the W540.

@@spacedaway welcome to old thinkpad in higher-education*** kasjdhfdjas

@@tokisuno Lmao

Thanks

this is the chad move. the x220 is alright but second gen intel processors weren't it, which is why i want to get an x230 in the future and replace the keyboard with an x220 one since it takes less battery and the i5 model is more powerful than the i7 in the x220.

@@tokisuno if i ever buy another thinkpad it will prob be an x230 cus that sounds like a great idea lol

@@Ton.... fuck yeah. the kbs aren't that expensive on aliexpress either.

@@tokisuno good to know lol ill keep that in mind ty

hell of a better CPU than i have in my x61. windows 7 you can strip down a lot, which is what's great about it. sucks it isn't the norm anymore. hope the bulky boy at least has an ssd, upgraded ram, and lots of love !

@@tokisuno of course!! windows 7 is sm better for older machines because microsofts spyware doesn’t bog down ur system… (Ｔ＿Ｔ)

@@cemops8660 if u want more performance come to the dark side (linux + twm)

@@tokisuno LOL ive been trying out linux mint recently and its pretty good..! maybe i'll try out twm one day but the environment is so different :P it'll take some learning

@@cemops8660 im using one rn. i started with mint on xfce. good shit.

heck yeah

can you put a t420 keyboard on the t430s? the 4:3 display is pretty bad but that's the charm of it. really enjoyed using it for the light tasks i used it for when i did use it. search local marketplaces and get lucky. best of luck big guy ps. ty:3

@@tokisuno yeah it's possible! I found a guide today that taught exactly that. I'll be keeping an eye out for an old school Thinkpad, hoping find a gem someday :>

:3

My T430s needs repair. I’m using a T480s. Either is good. Got others too. T60p, W500. I’m not tired of any of them.

although i don't need it as much now, it was pretty eye-opening when starting to gain discipline

tyyyy!!

based

what do you mean by fake cpu power

8gb of ddr2L ram is expensive everywhere. im surprised windows 10 works on it tbh. if you can get past the learning curve of tiling window managers on linux, that'd be your best bet. or xfce.

@@tokisuno Windows 10 can run on surprisingly low specs (not very fluidly, mind you). Since I’m considering replacing my laptop with a desktop I’m putting together, I’ve been considering selling said laptop, install Zorin OS on the X61 and use it as a light use laptop, since I like that keyboard SO much

@@guaiqueritech dude yeah the keyboard is really nice. the whole laptop build is genuinely insane for a laptop from 2008. those bezels tho ????? o.o also saludos desde canada (no se si sabias pero soy latino)

@@tokisuno bezels are thinner than on my 2017 Acer. Edit: no, no sabia que eres latino, jajaja! Saludos desde Venezuela

@@guaiqueritech JSHJASHJA que bueno! and yeah they're hellaaa thin. honestly if modern laptops had an option to remove the webcam for better bezels, i'd be so down.

i use a t460s right now with arch

what kind of thinkpad do you recommend for college?@@tokisuno

that's a very vague question, and one that's been asked around on various subreddits throughout the years. i don't know what you want. i don't know your specialization. i don't know what you need.

welcome dave LMFAO

@@tokisuno defo love ur vids, happy to be a part of ur community!

@@tokisuno I'm currently using My x200 (core2duo p8600/4gb ram/60gb ssd) in a similar way running Pop!_OS 22.04LTS I'd be curious to have seen the software/OS u run on x61, literally just looking on eBay now for a similar device, 4:3 for the win

@@TechDave i don't actually use the x61 at the moment. for what i am doing, it is far from optimal (analysing datasets, online course that i need zoom for). my model also has a rattly fan which is pretty easy to fix, but just haven't gotten around to it. my config revolves around gpu accelerated terminals which don't work on the x61 either. most of what i used to run was just firefox, xfce4-terminal, zsh, vim, and libreoffice.

it's actually a summer project of mine to update my configs and have it working again for my fourth year of uni.

youtube hates links so it removed ur reply. i know of this guy but his stuff is really expensive.

I'd go for the x230 but I'm biased because that's what I'm running lmao. The x230 is a bit faster but the keyboard isn't as cool so you'd have to mod it if that's something you care about. I know you weren't even asking me but the x220 or the x230 are pretty badass for being a decade old.

@@garfockker Thats fair. I'm pretty inexperienced with modding and taking my laptop apart but it'd be a cool project to max upgrade a X230

forgot to respond to this. x60 is great if you are literally only going to do word processing and use linux on it. no microsoft. that's how i was able to use it for a university semester.

@@garfockker legit thinking of getting an x230 and putting my x220 keyboard on it :eyes: i am pretty poor right now tho

@@tokisuno t480(s) is a also a really nice machine aswell. much newer hardware and has basically the same amount of repairability as the old thinkpads . obv no classic keyboard but still

thanks dawg

sim kkkkkk

i couldn't agree more

excuse me?

legend

holis

fast xd

gracias

um it's very expensive. www.xyte.ch/mods/x210-x2100/ is where i'd find one, but they probably aren't going to restock x62/x63 boards. i'd ask them. you're looking for 51nb x62/x63 motherboards. they go for sale on reddit once in a while.

you know it bb B)

thanks !

very true. if there was a modern version of this with not-terrible battery life that would be the dream. but dreams are just dreams.. :')