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Why INFINITY ULTRON Is So Much Better With the Infinity Stones Than Anyone Else 

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@keefmorgan2444
@keefmorgan2444 2 года назад
I feel like Ultron would be the best wielder of the stones because he is a computer, basically. He’s able to compute so many different uses and determine the best use at any possible moment in time.
@amerpdx
@amerpdx 2 года назад
Yeah, not to mention, his consciousness literally comes from the mind stone. Ultron Infinity is infinity stones given a body. I don't think anyone in any reality could use the stones as effectively as Ultron (in Vision body)
@controlman7490
@controlman7490 2 года назад
@@amerpdx Except a variant of Ultron who is just as smart as he is.
@Theflyingbuttfloss
@Theflyingbuttfloss 2 года назад
No emotion, just logic.
@Heavypunch23
@Heavypunch23 2 года назад
Don’t overestimate AI, he can compute many possibilities but he doesn’t have omniscience so so much more possibilities are unknown
@callumrock6797
@callumrock6797 2 года назад
@@Heavypunch23 actually with all the infinity stones he is omniscient and omnipotent and the rest. that's literally the whole point of the infinity stones you control all aspects of your universe
@hexagonshorts2186
@hexagonshorts2186 2 года назад
Coz technically he had JARVIS + Stark + Bruce intellect + Internet + Mind stone which makes him a super genius and tactician He only lost coz he forgot to renew his McAfee antivirus
@vivismentallyunstable
@vivismentallyunstable 2 года назад
Lol so underrated comment🤣
@boizen
@boizen 2 года назад
the fact that this is actually true
@xenobladefan11
@xenobladefan11 2 года назад
LOL that's so true
@johnjoe69
@johnjoe69 2 года назад
So then remove the super part. Super genius keep their antivirus paid in advance.
@Jordanwarden
@Jordanwarden 2 года назад
I'm not sure JARVIS was ever actually uploaded into this version of Ultron.
@RageGamer15
@RageGamer15 2 года назад
It all boils down to how much creative you can be while using the stones
@ky1ebetts
@ky1ebetts 2 года назад
Eeyuuuup.
@amerpdx
@amerpdx 2 года назад
Ultrons consciousness came from the mind stone. It has nothing to do with creativity but knowing their full capabilities. Ultron with stones is basically the stones given a body.
@RageGamer15
@RageGamer15 2 года назад
@@amerpdx this is true for ultron. Yes. But I'm speaking for all of the people who used all the stones or will use all the stones. Normal people or aliens
@amerpdx
@amerpdx 2 года назад
@@RageGamer15 Alright, so you posted a comment under a video with a question about Ultron, where you provide an answer that applies only to characters other than than Ultron. Okay, alright. If you say so.
@RageGamer15
@RageGamer15 2 года назад
@@amerpdx this applies to Ultron as well. He could have been more creative of course. Use the reality stone and blink them out of existence. He has the soul stone he can see all the souls in the universe. He couldn't see peggy jumping towards him at the end and black widow trying to shoot that arrow.
@scottforsythe37
@scottforsythe37 2 года назад
The key problem with this analysis is that Thanos and Ultron had very different goals. Ultron seems more powerful at first, but they both achieved exactly what they wanted. They're much more equal than it seems, especially when you remember that Thanos was able to crush the same body Infinity Ultron is using with nothing but his bare hands.
@CarlosSuperCute
@CarlosSuperCute 2 года назад
Ultron caught Thanos off-guard by his Mind stone Laser beam. Thanos would be harder to defeat if he was battle ready.
@o-wolf
@o-wolf 2 года назад
Thanos never crushed infinity ultrons body with his bare hands
@aaronmeives4496
@aaronmeives4496 2 года назад
@@o-wolf not Ultron, but vision. Assuming the vibranium body is the same in What If
@o-wolf
@o-wolf 2 года назад
@@aaronmeives4496 that was absolute nonsense tbh.. the beginning of the movie he 20 pieces the hulk before he rips put the infinity stone out of visions solid vibranium skull.. cap was holding his gauntlet back with his bare hands The russos have zero clue about power scaling or maintaining internal consistency
@aaronmeives4496
@aaronmeives4496 2 года назад
@@o-wolf thanos was the one holding back.
@anubusx
@anubusx 2 года назад
He is the GOAT with stones. RIP William Hurt. Would most like to see Wolverine appearing.
@anubusx
@anubusx 2 года назад
@Ryan Byrd Another version with his costume.
@niftypunk7120
@niftypunk7120 2 года назад
It shouldn't even be debated who is stronger with the stones amongst Thanos and Infinity Ultron. We saw the Watcher was embarrassed by Ultron in their battle. Also don't forget that the most powerful version of Strange who had spent centuries absorbing all sorts of mythical entities couldn't even beat Ultron. So I don't think Thanos would stand a chance against Infinity Ultron
@WhereWhatWhenWhy
@WhereWhatWhenWhy 2 года назад
Ultron killed Thanos with 5 infinity stones in like 3 seconds with just the mind stone
@ghaldurinanubios4290
@ghaldurinanubios4290 2 года назад
@@WhereWhatWhenWhy you can blame the writing for that.
@MylesKillis
@MylesKillis 2 года назад
@@ghaldurinanubios4290 no you can blame reaction time
@auveus5036
@auveus5036 2 года назад
@@MylesKillis no he is right. you can blame the writing for that.
@hughfisherr
@hughfisherr 2 года назад
Pretty sure strange was weakened after his universe was deleted :I
@Jadensdivine
@Jadensdivine 2 года назад
It’d be amazing if infinity ultron came to live action
@_JOMOMA
@_JOMOMA 2 года назад
Well it’s literally how we saw it in ‘What if?’ Ultron became one with his infinity stones and even went through an evolution with them. He has no inhibitions, no hesitations, no emotions holding him back, while also having the imagination of a completely sentient being. He even has the perfect body to use the stones at their full power without them killing him.
@codyyu2113
@codyyu2113 2 года назад
The stones work in different realities because Dark Doctor Strange used his own time stone to counter Ultron’s time stone.
@Blake_Solo
@Blake_Solo 2 года назад
It’s Ultron’s mastery of the Mind Stone that makes his use of the other stones so impressive.
@ImmortalAbsol
@ImmortalAbsol 2 года назад
Imagine Infinity Ultron with his native stones powering his mind and suit but he is also weilding the complete gauntlet from your universe for access to the specific powers, pretty sure you'd need beings far greater than the Guardians of the Multiverse to stop that. *OR* just a TVA door that opens into the machine that scans if you are artificial and destroys you, no defence from the stones in the TVA.
@443MoneyTrees
@443MoneyTrees 2 года назад
This show is basically saying that the infinity stones truly have “infinite” power, but knowledge depending how strong they are with them
@chrisroberts3810
@chrisroberts3810 2 года назад
Ultron used them to cause the most harm intentionally, where as thanos used them and didn’t abuse the power in the MCU as soon as his goal was reached he gave up and retired, vs his past self time traveling to grab the stones early and slightly less prepared which lead to his death. Thanos could of been a dictator of the universe but chose to be a simple farmer.
@shrek6109
@shrek6109 2 года назад
shrek gang forever!
@kwakhopani1798
@kwakhopani1798 2 года назад
Well Ultron was using the stones on himself, and I don't remember him trying to manipulate the laws of any other universe. He empowered himself, thus why he is the best infinity stones user. Obviously Ultron would Molly wop Thanos with only a finger😂
@RustyPancake53
@RustyPancake53 2 года назад
this guy's videos feel the same as extending a 2 page paper into 5
@billslone242
@billslone242 2 года назад
He was the scariest villan the mcu has ever introduced
@chronosmyth2106
@chronosmyth2106 2 года назад
Definitely Ultron. Infinity Ultron, much like his canon MCU counterpart can swap bodies at moments notice. Now under most circumstances switching from his Vision body to an older model would weaken him he could in fact compensate for this by transforming his older model into a new Vision upgrade by using one or more of the stones.
@Red_MOON187
@Red_MOON187 2 года назад
Maybe with his god powers, he could've tried to make a metal stronger than vibranium for a new body?
@chronosmyth2106
@chronosmyth2106 2 года назад
@@Red_MOON187 the infinity stones are limited to the users imagination. He probably could not imagine a body more perfect than the one he made for himself.
@TechDove
@TechDove 2 года назад
@@chronosmyth2106 I think he could. Especially with all the conquering he did. Surely he came across and learned of uru metal
@KasaiWolf07
@KasaiWolf07 2 года назад
Ummm the Stones do work in alternate realities. Infinity Ultron was smacking the Watcher through loads of realities and they worked. Not to mention Strange Supreme's Time stone. It worked in Infinity Ultron's timeline so ergo.
@islandcave8738
@islandcave8738 2 года назад
My theory is that those realities still have to be connected via branched timelines and they wont work in other realities not connected at the root.
@SDfighter1
@SDfighter1 2 года назад
@@islandcave8738 Nah it's just inconsistency and lazy writing.
@MylesKillis
@MylesKillis 2 года назад
They do work in the show but it was stated before the show that they didn’t work. Hence the confusion.
@KasaiWolf07
@KasaiWolf07 2 года назад
@@MylesKillis It was never stated they don't work in other universes. Only in the TVA since they have tech that blocks magic of any sort.
@thebruhguy7406
@thebruhguy7406 2 года назад
@@KasaiWolf07 While it wasn’t stated in the MCU,it was stated in the comics
@lightningshy5287
@lightningshy5287 2 года назад
Ultron was clearly taking his time with eliminating all life in the universe given that he was going from planet to planet one by one instead of performing a simple “snap” level action with the stones to get it over with right away. I think this just goes to show how sinister he is in slowly showing the whole universe how unstoppable he is. Of course the only moment where his hand was forced in ending it all immediately was when Captain Marvel had him pinned down for a bit.
@lightningshy5287
@lightningshy5287 2 года назад
@Me BeatYou His body is made completely out of a perfect stone wielding material plus he clearly has far better ability and understanding of wielding the stones than Thanos. He absolutely could have snapped away the universe in a single thought if he didn’t feel like making it slow and deliberate.
@friedrice7876
@friedrice7876 2 года назад
@Me BeatYou The snap can do whatever the user want’s it do. It can destroy the entire universe, not just half
@DrDre-sy2kv
@DrDre-sy2kv 5 месяцев назад
Animation or movies, infinity Ultron has been the most scariest entity i ever cane across my life. Just imagine if he's real somewhere doing what he's doing here and eventually comes to our universe. . . . We're totally helpless. . . He's basically unstoppable.
@michaelbarnes2126
@michaelbarnes2126 2 года назад
Thanos used the stones with no intention of killing while gathering them which led to more creative use of them and the snap was random he didn’t dictate who died. Ultron on the other hand empowered himself, created an army out of thin air and channeled the raw power of the stones into beams and blasts that were intended to kill and destroy
@glitch9514
@glitch9514 2 года назад
Strange Supreme also used his Time Stone outside of his own universe, which is also against comic continuity. BUT..... What if..... (See what I did there?).... What if the 616 comic universe just has the one of the sets of infinity stones that can't be used in other universes?
@ILoveBluePeople
@ILoveBluePeople 2 года назад
You could make that make sense also by saying the 616 stones are the originals so they work in all universe but all the others a copies locked to a universe
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 года назад
I mean it feels pretty simple I don't know why we're still talking about this months later.
@ComicGuy2004
@ComicGuy2004 2 года назад
Same. I mean, the show's over.
@Draw2quit
@Draw2quit 8 месяцев назад
He also uses the soul stone on the Guardians on Titan. He hits them with a blast from the power stone and as he recoils his hand, you can see the soul stone is glowing as well as the power stone. I think he was using the soul stone to stop them from dying from the power stone. As usual Thanos doesn't want to kill unless he has to, somehow seeing Stark as the only real threat to him.
@wahrorestey1653
@wahrorestey1653 2 года назад
Because he is a great ancestors creation with some newer variations being built holding the stones in their constructive time allotment and other noterierities in the stones.
@wintermute7378
@wintermute7378 2 года назад
Dude in an infinite multivers where all possibilities happen however unlikely there would be at least one where thanos was just off his game enough let himself get o e shot. This has been outright stated by the show runners. There were countless universes where thanos won that exchange but the one we saw he lost.
@shaddollunlimited7792
@shaddollunlimited7792 2 года назад
In my opinion thanos showed more creativity and fast learning on how to use the stones altho infinity ultron is more powerful thanks to the vibranium body
@gloriawangui5669
@gloriawangui5669 10 месяцев назад
Ultron is a complex multiversal lvl He has the power to destroy a whole universe with just an explosion, he can destroy galaxies which just thoughts and even eat them He has the usual power and abilities of the infinity stones, however he has a vibralium body + stronger unknown armor on top, he has the intelligence of probably jarvis, vision, Bruce Banner plus he's an AI to begin with However he needs to renew his McAfee antivirus protection subscription next time
@jesse-1_7
@jesse-1_7 2 года назад
As he is a hybrid eternal
@dariekmartin46
@dariekmartin46 2 года назад
Note, neither the Black Widow and Hawkeye of Infinity Ultron’s reality had barely aged after he rid his universe of life, so he had to do it in an insanely small amount of time.👀 Those two were still in that reality looking for Zola while The Watcher fought Ultron.
@devincrenshaw4865
@devincrenshaw4865 2 года назад
We can't really know if it was really that short of a time because he travels instantly through space, and the boundaries between distance and time blur. If he went to a planet 100 light years away and destroyed it, then that event would basically be happening in the past for Natasha and Clint and would take 100 years for then to realize he destroyed it.
@Bornloserstrongheart
@Bornloserstrongheart 2 года назад
I think the fans need to remember that yes there is a multiverse but What If is a what if storyline
@ionnicoara6657
@ionnicoara6657 2 года назад
Vision ( our vision) died to easy. He is a 24/7 thinking mashine. He could obviously find a way to fix himself.
@rossjones8656
@rossjones8656 Год назад
I still feel like since the watcher place has ever single type of radiation ultron can not just single out but adapt his stones to become muiltiversale in little amount of time.
@urbancrafttechnologies9204
@urbancrafttechnologies9204 7 месяцев назад
I craved strength and consistency of vibranium.
@MirageUchiha
@MirageUchiha 2 года назад
But in the last What if...? episode, they say the stones couldn't be destroyed wit the Infinity Crusher from another universe.
@H.F.Prince
@H.F.Prince 2 года назад
But if all timelines are branches off the Sacred timeline shouldn’t the stones still work because those stones they use in the time heist were variants
@stevenle9960
@stevenle9960 2 года назад
Infinity ultron's mind is partially the mind stone, so it's basically an infinity stone wielding the other infinity stones
@quickgley
@quickgley 2 года назад
Maybe ultron can't use the full potential of the stones (especially the soul stone) because he has no soul. Maybe that's why he couldn't use it to "snap" his universe.
@auveus5036
@auveus5036 2 года назад
interesting
@amerpdx
@amerpdx 2 года назад
I didn't watch the video yet, but my theory is because he's an AI. He suffers no negative effects when using the stones like Thanos or Hulk. Further, he can communicate with each stone in computer code that some give off. Space and Mind stones do this, probably others as well. "Vistron" basically becomes 'one with the stones', in every sense of the word. Looking back how easily he defeated 5-stone Thanos with only the mind stone further confirms this hypothesis. Ultrons consciousness CAME from the mind stone. When you consider all this, it becomes obvious that Vistron with all stones is basically the stones themselves coming to life. But if you're wondering why wasn't Vision as powerful with the mind stone? I think the reason was Tony and Banners manipulation with his code to put Jarvis in. Jarvis' code is still elementary in comparison to Ultron, not to mention Tony probably put some limits or blocks in there, just in case this second attempt follows the example of the first.
@bigdexmedia5233
@bigdexmedia5233 2 года назад
Infinity Ultron is the best wielder of the Infinity Stones, simply because he is a living computer and Thanos is a living being. Being a computer means that he does not feel empathy for anything done to humans and seeks to extinguish life entirely while Thanos simply wants to keep it balanced by erasing 50% of the universe's population. Ultron also invaded The Watcher's base of operations, something Thanos never did, and although both Ultron and Thanos have a "kill everybody" moment, there's a huge difference: Thanos' could attack a planet with his army and attack a planet but there will be survivors, who will go to different planets and tell of Thanos' siege against that particular planet BUT Ultron attacked, overwhelmed, and killed everybody and anybody in his way.
@haz1q.
@haz1q. 2 года назад
"I will tell you who would win in a confrontation" 15 mins later: I will leave it upto you
@spooderblade3914
@spooderblade3914 2 года назад
Dont they have a picture of Odin using the Stone during Thor Ragnorak, im pretty sure they mention him usign them as well or somthing
@arlainecarinugan3703
@arlainecarinugan3703 2 года назад
It's bc since he's a machine he doesn't take damage from using the stones unlike when Thanos almost died using all six, also the stones work outside their own universe as seen in what if when strange supreme used the time stobe against Ultron
@Patches_0001
@Patches_0001 Год назад
They are limited to their own universe but they work in all universes just not as strongly
@jrmelton4684
@jrmelton4684 2 года назад
Adam warlock, and odin both MOST DEFINITELY had all 6 in a gauntlet
@kylemartin3985
@kylemartin3985 2 года назад
Isn’t Adam not in the mcu yet?
@Zero-us5xm
@Zero-us5xm 2 года назад
@@kylemartin3985 Not as a character but as a concept right now until Guardians 3
@hydroaegis6658
@hydroaegis6658 2 года назад
Because the plot and story needed and wanted it.
@sukhoisu-75checkmate24
@sukhoisu-75checkmate24 2 года назад
as skynet once said humans evolve over millions of years but an AI evloves with in seconds capable or restructuring the stones on a chemical level to break the boundarys of the multiverse and the timeline
@theradiant_child
@theradiant_child 2 года назад
Y’all doing a lot of speculation on *no pun intended* a lot of what ifs, instead of just debating the facts presented in front of us already.. How do you know the stones can be restructured? And Thanos is not human so comparing AI to humans doesn’t even make sense here
@drvoid7
@drvoid7 Год назад
Ultron IS the vessel, whilst Thanos utilises a vessel (the Infinity Gauntlet). This would mean Ultron is more powerful, right? No. It doesn't mean that. Thanos is more powerful than Ultron, for 3 reasons: 1. He has been studying the Infinity Stones for many years. 2. He has a LOT more imagination than Ultron, allowing him to use the Stones in creative ways. 3. Ultron was not prepared to wield the Stones, whilst the Infinity Gauntlet was made specifically for that purpose. Ultimately, Thanos wins.
@thomasthunder5887
@thomasthunder5887 2 года назад
It's because vibranium is found across every universe is why Ultron can use the stones from different realities
@Bullyjr5000
@Bullyjr5000 2 месяца назад
He takes care of the infinity stones not like kang turns the stones into paperweights and thanos destroys the infinity stones to complete his mission but he said that the stones almost kill him so that means ultron absorbs the infinity stones and the infinity stones help ultron make him more powerful because ultron doesn’t care of destroying the infinity stones he only cares of destroying humanity so that is why the stones make him powerful
@cislife7140
@cislife7140 2 года назад
The problem with Ultron is that he was programed to save the earth not save humans, which is a program that is in Jarvis, you can save the earth without the human race, but you can't save humans if you don't save the earth
@reaper2604
@reaper2604 2 года назад
If infinity ultron could do all that to HIS universe I don’t even know what thanos could do with them given the same amount of time.
@jclay6680
@jclay6680 2 года назад
I belive the TVA is inside of the Quantum Realm. ( and can transport out )
@Zargex
@Zargex Год назад
Emp grenade about to end this mans whole career. Also Ultron deserved way more in MCU
@carlosgarza400
@carlosgarza400 2 года назад
There's still one lingering question How did Thanos get the Time stone in that universe
@majiccouly
@majiccouly 2 года назад
No matter how mich he can use the stones, what if series need more story so it can be use. Until then it just looks like fun fight for fan pleasure with no real power scaling behind, it’s all plot
@HeartbreakHertz
@HeartbreakHertz 2 года назад
never forget, Thanos pulls up from 4 years in the past after seeing his death. Murks Thor, Iron Man and Cap 3 v 1, no stones and then smashes the HELL outta that frisbee. I believe his spinning dual blade was made of Uru. wait. What is mljornir? idk. Anyway. MCU logic is crazy at times.
@Superman-av
@Superman-av 2 года назад
thanos crushed the vibranium body of vision to pull out infinity stone, it was merely a play thing for thanos
@ford2010
@ford2010 2 года назад
Btw ultron had stones that could travel the multiverse and keep its power
@thunderstruckgamegod2615
@thunderstruckgamegod2615 Год назад
You know what i think vision should have this armour if his ghost self does return by ghost I mean white vision I hope he gets this armour for good
@EFritts222
@EFritts222 2 года назад
Thought you sounded familiar eckharslater
@vividimagination2044
@vividimagination2044 2 года назад
did you forget that there was a survivor on the earth that infinity ultron left behind?
@ericthemadscientist8357
@ericthemadscientist8357 2 года назад
he's just smarter and has more time to learn how to use em
@wyn8210
@wyn8210 2 года назад
Give the stones to Dr. STRANGE... And watch
@firelord_ozai
@firelord_ozai 2 года назад
Well let's be clear this is only hypothetical because the what If series doesn't tie into the main mcu timeline because it's just "what if" but if infinity ultron were to make a real appearance in the mcu it would be a different story
@korehflagler3561
@korehflagler3561 2 года назад
i thought it was said to be apart of the mcu
@firelord_ozai
@firelord_ozai 2 года назад
@@korehflagler3561 that's what was said but it's not apart of the main mcu
@firelord_ozai
@firelord_ozai 2 года назад
@Percuss I clearly said the "main mcu"
@Kipcraft9
@Kipcraft9 2 года назад
ULTRON, ULTRON, ULTRON!
@csave
@csave 6 месяцев назад
Okay wait a minute. If he was using the stones to augment his own mechanical power while in the other realities, how was he able to affect the matter in such a way in these said realities. Say for instance when he makes the entire forest disappear, after chasing Uatu into the first dimension. He shouldn’t be able to manipulate that reality in such a way. Now I’m even more confused trying to find out how this was even possible.
@novabell24
@novabell24 2 года назад
The answer to the question of if the Infinity Stones can be used outside of their home reality or if they’re specific to that reality is actually yes. They can be used outside their reality along with their unique properties. This was proven when Ultron used the time stone to create a time bubble around all the heroes (Minus Strange Supreme) and himself so he could retrieve the soul stone. Anyways, Strange Supreme breaks the time bubble by using his own time stone from his reality that was still in his Eye of Agamoto. So yes, the stones and their unique properties can be used outside their native universe. Which just makes the wielder even scarier.
@mrpeace8820
@mrpeace8820 2 года назад
and also in mcu it was already proven alternate universe infinite stones can be use in other unverse as shown in end game movie. so i dont understand why did he even mentioned this.
@Mrmizzy55
@Mrmizzy55 2 года назад
Does anybody think that Thanos had recollection of the celestial eggs within the universe. And his deleting of 50% of a populous was primarily because of these eggs that would destroy these universes
@Luis-mw6yb
@Luis-mw6yb 2 года назад
I think reed richards is the best handler so far in the comics besides maybe Black Panther
@Trebor_Kylo_Yebe
@Trebor_Kylo_Yebe 2 года назад
My problem with infinity ultron is his use of the soul stone. It’s something I actually like that they used for the plot of marvel vs capcom infinite. Ultron has no soul so he has no control over the soul stone
@commandersune5432
@commandersune5432 2 года назад
Yes! It was also silly how Vision was able to cut Thanos in half. Vision would have zero chance against Thanos.
@MylesKillis
@MylesKillis 2 года назад
@@commandersune5432 why? Are you saying a super computer like vision wouldn’t have a faster reaction time than thanos and thus be able to strike him faster than he could react? Are you saying that the mind stone isn’t strong enough to cut in half an unprotected Thanos?
@KagepazRequiem
@KagepazRequiem 2 года назад
Ultron is becoming one with the stones!
@nicholasmartins3030
@nicholasmartins3030 2 года назад
I want to see worthy infinity vibranium armored dr doom with silver board
@A_itsar
@A_itsar 2 года назад
Ultron is "better" in using the stones, because it's a short episode, if the episode is longer, there will be more time to learn how to use the stones
@Ironhand187
@Ironhand187 2 года назад
Has anyone else noticed that no one physically touched the time stone
@jesse-1_7
@jesse-1_7 2 года назад
Thanos does that because of celestials
@moxxy3565
@moxxy3565 6 месяцев назад
I wonder how powerful he'd be with the infinity stones but not the body of vision
@TheGravityShifter
@TheGravityShifter Год назад
The most inconsistent bit with the stones for Ultron is easily the part where he first meets the GoM. He collapses a cliff when it shouldn't have been possible. One might call it an outlier, but for logic to work, there can't be contradictions. And this is first of many writing problems in Phase 4. And ofc the issue with Strange using his timestone in Ultron's native Universe can't be ignored. I can see how one would try to explain away this issue but in a logical sense but there's been no concrete explanation.
@Patches_0001
@Patches_0001 Год назад
How would he not be able to collapse a CLIFF while being the most powerful thing in existence, he was able to rewrite the code of the stones meaning he can use them anywhere for anything
@TheGravityShifter
@TheGravityShifter Год назад
@@Patches_0001 The official answer for the reason he could use the stones in other universes is that he can channel the power through him as energy beams or enhanced punches. Collapsing a cliff telekinetically with 3 stones is not a thing you channel through your body. He destroyed it directly from the stones as if it were his home universe. This should be impossible with what the official creators claimed. So it's either the stones work in other universes or it's lazy writing for a cool/funny scene that broke their own rules they themselves established. THERE IS NO OFFICIAL ANSWER that he "recoded" the stones to work beyond his own universe.
@rikbanner9271
@rikbanner9271 2 года назад
Many Jedi have survived Force lightning; many can jump 50 stories and 50 story falls while mortally wounded; most have lost a limb or even been cut in half. Some people try to act like they want Mace Windu to die, well Jango Fett was a very bad guy, a murderer who deserved to die, he was going to kill Anakin, Padme and Obi-Wan. I've even heard some say he was the reason that Anakin turned to the dark side; Anakin was born specifically to turn to the dark side. Still others say that he was wrong for about to kill Palpatine. No; if you watched the movie, when he first walked in, he told Palpatine that he was "under arrest"; at that point Palpatine preceded to slaughter his brothers. He did what any good cop would've done; that is until Anakin of course... #MaceWinduSurvived
@hishamhegab3358
@hishamhegab3358 2 года назад
well if we are talking about deadly 100% ultron while thanos was only able too destroy half of a universe with a snap plus destroy the stones ultron had no mercy taking out multiple universes plus ultron is a ai meaning his combant knowledge technology and other stuff like that come into play here giving him the edge (this also comes with the weakness off viruses but yea)
@randomchild1233
@randomchild1233 2 года назад
What I don't understand is how Ultron didn't just immediately wipe out The Watcher. I guess MCU cosmic power scaling is different from comics or something.
@realtruth97
@realtruth97 2 года назад
Have you ever played chess against a computer? That's how
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 2 года назад
Computer doesn’t have a soul. You can’t wield the soul stone without a soul. This is a key plot point for the entire Infinity Saga. The writers of What If, and of this video don’t understand that. Same with No Way Home and Mobius which don’t understand the multiverse and can’t follow the logic even of their own stories. What If’s Ultron Episodes, No Way Home and Morbius are all just badly written period. None of them are even close to making a lick of sense.
@ihavefreekids1924
@ihavefreekids1924 2 года назад
His names Ultravision
@poultrycheeseboy
@poultrycheeseboy 2 года назад
thanos picked the mind stone out of visions vibranium cranium, but his body doesnt compare?
@edwardaustin8166
@edwardaustin8166 2 года назад
I mean if Doom got Battle would without the stones 🤷🤦🙅🧏
@Meauxluv
@Meauxluv 2 года назад
Bruh. Thanks out his hand through Visions heard barely trying.
@tr0n4556
@tr0n4556 2 года назад
my opinion is that thanos was holding back. Thanos wanted to indisriminantly kill half of life, and using the stones to kill even one person would be a step out of thaos' ideals. Using them in the way Thanos did I imagine takes a lot more skill, as it is easy to destroy something, where as it is much harder to subdue it.
@G1Transformed
@G1Transformed 2 года назад
Was he better though? Everyone in the MCU who used the stones used them for very different things. Ultron was by far the most despicable. He was burdened by emotions or ethics, Ultron carried out his mission like a program and he executed it. If Thanos wanted to end all life he could have, but that wasn't his goal. He was very clear about what he was doing and why he was doing it. Ultron heard Tony's call and concluded that it was flawed in nature. Humans were the cause of all modern day problems on Earth. If he was going to save the Earth, he'd have to save it from humans and that's what he did. Thanos doomed the rest of the universe when he cam rolling up on Earth. Ultron very likely concluded that alien life, like humans, were doomed to do the same things--Thanos came to conquer, after all. In order to save the Earth, Ultron had to wipe out all life. Anyway, anyone with the Infinity Stones would be better than their normal selves, as the stones give them unlimited power.
@B00s3
@B00s3 2 года назад
Didn't realize Loki "famously" used 2 Infinity stones.
@cheesusbobicus59578
@cheesusbobicus59578 9 месяцев назад
we all know he installed the manual
@canrex7540
@canrex7540 2 года назад
It's hard to say. If Thanos had more time to master the use of the stones, (and gave in to his temptation to use them again) I bet he'd come out on top of Infinity Ultron. He knows each stone individually so is able to wield the set more effectively. Infinity Ultron got much stronger when he got all of the gems, but after that he didn't grow, because he didn't need too. He was already strong enough to wipe out any opponent in his universe, so he got to it. What if he needed too, and discovered a metal that's even more broken than vibranium? Although, why didn't Ultron just snap all of the life out of the universe? He didn't even snap half. Is this because he didn't want to or because he couldn't? If he couldn't, that could indicate that Thanos has his hands on infinity gems that are much stronger for whatever reason. Thanos would definitely win if that's the case. (and we don't consider their egos but w/e, I've already written so much)
@angelicalynn1259
@angelicalynn1259 2 года назад
Exactly how is an unfeeling computer going to get the soul stone again?
@angelicalynn1259
@angelicalynn1259 2 года назад
@Percuss Okay so the other side. The infinity stones by all accounts only work in their home multiverse. All the ways they try to get around that are nothing but made up to fit the story they want to tell (not MCU but people from outside of it). But on the other hand if you had watched it they weren't asking if Ultron had gotten them from another multiverse but they were asking what if he had won and then collected them.
@wolfyx4311
@wolfyx4311 2 года назад
Imagine that redscull was never sent to guide mindstone seekers to mindstone. How somebody would know how to acquire mindstone?🤔
@thecrimsonring2507
@thecrimsonring2507 2 года назад
Soul stone mind stone was in Loki's scepter
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 2 года назад
Infiniti vision would have been lit
@j19lightningstorm15
@j19lightningstorm15 2 года назад
You forgot one!!!! Zombie Thanos from what if...zombies. So technically 5
@vinny7114
@vinny7114 2 года назад
Ultron definitely used the infinity stones much better.
@ky1ebetts
@ky1ebetts 8 месяцев назад
Thragg vs Infinity Ultron. Who wins it? WHO WINS IT?!
@rgs_cashewmane2051
@rgs_cashewmane2051 2 года назад
Tony stank is the strongest wielder of the stones
@ShamelessFN
@ShamelessFN 2 года назад
what about the eternals in this reality ?
@stevenmartin7380
@stevenmartin7380 2 года назад
I think Ultron also what about warlock?
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