Why Intelligence Failures Happen? 

thank you!

Amy updates?

@@manubishe Was a while ago but if I remember right we did watch them

@@matthewm2045 Haha thanks for the reply

Were there ways of utilizing the information that could have resulted in a different outcome?

@@randbarrett8706 I am curious about that too.

@@randbarrett8706 considering Panama's size and economical output, not really. However, if given to other countries that could ally with it, definitely.

The proverbial stovepipe. I know it well!

The structure of any government encourages the fragmentation instead of unification of the intelligence services . In a democracy, different agencies strive for power, influence, and funding, which means they tend to work separately and keep information from each other and to run their own operations. You need to form a separate and preferably temporary command, to force the different and overlapping branches to work together. However, on the other hand, you can do something like the British: to have different branches with different, and distinct responsibility and a culture of cooperation. MI6 is a predominantly foreign espionage organization while MI5 is a predominantly internal security organization. There is another function in making the different intelligence services separate: it is to prevent coup. One invaluable currency in coup is information: who knows what, who's important, who's loyal to who, what kind of resource that can be called up, etc ... The natural repositories of information about those are the intelligence services. Most coup will inevitably involve personnel from of the the espionage branch. Keeping the branches separate limit the ability of the coup plotters to amass support and resources. The inherent distrust and rivalry can be used to play them against each other, making coup less likely. Having one massive, unified command simply means that whoever is plotting the coup can easily purge the entire organization of loyalists, turning it to a coup HQ, and since there are no other intelligence service, no one knows what the fuck is going on except the conspirators, and the dictator only knows about the coup once he was overthrown. One prime example of how a unified intelligence command and run a coup very well was in South Korea. It was precisely for the sake of better coordination in responding to the threat of North Korean commando attacks that the United States pressed the South Koreans to merge their Army Security Command, Navy Security Unit, and Air Force Office of Special Investigations into a single organization. A fully integrated, authentically joint Defense Security Command was ceremoniously inaugurated in October 1977. Two years later, its two- star commanding general, Chun Doo Hwan, used his fully unified command and monopoly of immediate force to seize power when the country’s president, Park Chung Hee, was assassinated. There was no one to restrain him when Chun investigated, judged, and condemned the country’s top general, the army’s chief of staff , and then jumped over all the three- star and four- star officers above him to make himself the country’s president. It could not have happened if there had still been three competing security organizations instead of a monopoly.

What, the Panzershreck??

Quite intersting, thanks for that.

That reminds me a bit of this xkcd comic: xkcd.com/927/

was an intelligence analyst before. can relate.

Well, to be fair, intelligence failures _themselves_ can easily lead to very smart people making decisions that turn out to have been stupid once the aftermath can be done.

@@johnhazatoth6125 You were an intelligence analyst, but got smarter?

Its a for a reason. This video covered basically nothing that happens inside of the intelligence communities. Mostly because no one outside of these communities actually understand whats happening inside of them.

ian doyle as someone inside them, we still don’t fully understand it

@@theholyhay1555 That's on purpose, it's called "compartmentalization". It's in case of a breach.

The Soviets might not have had T-34 batallions anymore in the 80-ies, but certainly some other outdated equipment. Imagine that after the modern T-72's have crashed into the M-1's, Chieftiains and Leopard 2's; some T-64's arrive to take on second rate M-60's, Centurions and Leopard 1's. What is left of NATO reserves after that should be very worried about a bunch of clanking and smoking T-55's! This is why NATO air tactics and theatre ballistic missile operational plans prioritised FOFA (Follow On Forces Attack) on the assembly areas in Poland and Hungary.

really?

@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Same here. Keep up the good job.

you came for the content and you stayed for the accent ;)

Yes, the way he wrote it, it should not contain a question mark as it is not a question.

Yeah, either include the "do" or drop the question mark.

Hippie McFake It works as is.

57 Mickey Don't be coy, you know what "a native speaker" means.

in 2018+ probably. Era & region are of limited interest for me (might change), additionally I have no prior knowledge and third, I assume the sources are few and probably sketchy as fuck. More here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0gOZy5xgy18.html

you might want to listen to the first few minutes of this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0gOZy5xgy18.html

Military History Visualized Thank you

Military History Visualized So.... that's a yes?

I'll see causation if you propose a negative correlation on that one tho ;)

feather and sword. Cause I couldn't find anything else for quite some time.

in the thinking was the context: is it a diplomatic/non-hostile move or a hostile move. Now, I guess the friendly and sad face mask usually used for drama would have been probably more fitting, also I have them "in stock".

An echo from the past, felt in the present :D

Ryan Cartwright he is good at analyzing past events but not neccesarrily got at being a real general

Mikhailia Gacesa a lot of the Soviet manpower during the Moscow counteroffensive were transfers from Siberia, those units were meant to fight the Japanese if fighting broke out.

AngMori No, this is not the guy from MGS3.

Not that. That guy is named after the original SIGINT. :)

he would still be a moron

And yet, he won. Funny how that happens.

Trump doesn't read.