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This formula has been known since ancient times. How did they figure it out?
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@FaneBenMezd
@FaneBenMezd 20 дней назад
Fun fact, the letter π was chosen to describe the ratio of circumference/diameter because of the word 'περιφέρεια' (~periphery) that is the 'περίμετρος' (perimeter) of a circle.
@StrawPancake
@StrawPancake 19 дней назад
oh and the first letter looks like a pi
@kiloperson5680
@kiloperson5680 19 дней назад
​@@StrawPancake The first letter IS pi lol
@David280GG
@David280GG 17 дней назад
periphereia perimetros
@Tiqerboy
@Tiqerboy 17 дней назад
I find it truly incredible how many words in English come from Greek yet the spoken Greek is so incomprehensible to native English speakers who have never studied Greek.
@carultch
@carultch 13 дней назад
@@Tiqerboy It's all Grssk to me.
@jimspelman8538
@jimspelman8538 20 дней назад
Just for fun, I pulled out my old Calculus book from college and integrated using the equation for a circle (after solving for y to get y= sqrt(r^2-x^2). I simply integrated from 0-1 (quadrant 1 of a circle with radius r with its center at (0,0)) and multiplied by 4. Sure enough...Area still equals (pi)r^2 !
@jeffreyestahl
@jeffreyestahl 20 дней назад
The first I estimated PI, I was a sophomore in high school. I used nested octogons: 1 inscribed, 1 circumscribed. That initial estimate was 3.16. It wasn't too hard later to determine a formula for estimating PI as a lim(N->Inf) for nested N-gons.
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 19 дней назад
There are many ways you can integrate it, if you do a basic single intergral by solving for y then you have to use trig substitution. However you could do it much easier and faster with double intergrals in polar coordinates.
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 19 дней назад
​@@jeffreyestahl Lim n -> oo [ 2^n * sqrt(2 - sqrt(2 + sqrt( 2 + ... ))) ] with n many square roots.
@oliviervancantfort5327
@oliviervancantfort5327 19 дней назад
Much easier to integrate in polar coordinates. Just integrate r dr from 0 to 2pi, which is basically the calculus equivalent of first method. 😊
@jeffreyestahl
@jeffreyestahl 19 дней назад
@@oliviervancantfort5327 One problem. In order to determine the value of PI, you can't use PI. At least, those were always the rules I applied for myself when I'd pursue that value out of curiosity.
@larzcaetano
@larzcaetano 14 дней назад
I value much more this type of content and historical background investigation than solving nearly-impossible questions/puzzles. Amazing video!
@dr.johnslab7502
@dr.johnslab7502 20 дней назад
I love how excited you get, Presh! Keep it up! 👏👏👏
@pinedelgado4743
@pinedelgado4743 20 дней назад
Thank you!! I've just done it!! Upon learning of William Jones 1706 work you referenced, I went to Wikipedia and found out that this work (with the first use of the Greek letter pi for representing the ratio between a circle's circumference and its diameter) is titled "Synopsis Palmariorum Matheseos." Then within mere minutes, I found myself buying a copy of it on Amazon!! Thank you so much, Presh, for enlightening me!!!!
@kelumo7981
@kelumo7981 День назад
congratulations 👏you are truly passionate,i love people like you❤❤
@pinedelgado4743
@pinedelgado4743 День назад
@@kelumo7981 Thank you!!! ❤❤
@mtm101designs9
@mtm101designs9 20 дней назад
I like this format as an addition to the usual problems.
@henryucha2705
@henryucha2705 19 дней назад
Keep on posting these videos 🙏
@georgeray3492
@georgeray3492 20 дней назад
Math history is amazing. This was excellent! Thank you.
@BillionFires
@BillionFires 19 дней назад
Here is a simple method: Picture the concentric rings from the third approach. The innermost ring has a circumference of zero (it's basically a point). The outer ring has a circumference of 2πr. Now add up all the circumferences by integrating 2πr from 0 to r. It's a very simple integral that results in πr^2
@ProfessorEE
@ProfessorEE 18 дней назад
If calculus and its full notation and explication had already been discovered, this would not be very hard. These proofs all anticipate calculus by a fair period of time, at least in the definition of a limit…
@xnick_uy
@xnick_uy 13 дней назад
A little detail you have to handle carefully: the areas of the circumference lines that you propose to integrate are exactly zero. A reasoning based on rings with infinitesimal thickness, or equivalent, has to be established.
@BillionFires
@BillionFires 13 дней назад
@@xnick_uy Isn't this the basis of finding areas using Calculus? It's the same logic as adding up rectangles with infinitesimal thickness. Or is it just a coincidence that it produced the right result?
@xnick_uy
@xnick_uy 13 дней назад
@@BillionFires Yes, but the proper formal calculation needs a few steps. The area of a ring with inner and outer radii a and b, respectively, is pi*(b^2-a^2). But we can't use this expresion to prove what the area of the circle is (is the other way around). We have to show that if we set b = a + dr and let dr -> 0, the area of such a ring goes to 2*pi*dr (which is correct but we have to prove it without using the formula we are trying to demonstrate).
@Faz527
@Faz527 9 дней назад
@@BillionFires exactly, integration is basically summing up the area under a curve/graph.These clever , well thought methods predate calculus by a long time period.
@Kija-er1be
@Kija-er1be 20 дней назад
Regarding the last example, I was thinking that you can integrate the different circumferences for the radius going from 0 to r, which is \int_{0}^r 2xpi dx= r^2pi.
@keshavmtech
@keshavmtech 19 дней назад
Wow, thank you so much for enlightening on very fundamentals of formula for a Circle's area.
@i-mosh2881
@i-mosh2881 19 дней назад
This is just amazing. Getting to know this now after all these years
@Roarshark12
@Roarshark12 20 дней назад
Loved this, thanks!
@BryndanMeyerholtTheRealDeal
@BryndanMeyerholtTheRealDeal 19 дней назад
If you want the area of a non-circular ellipse, then you can use the formula πab, where a and b are the major and minor axis. For a circle, a and b would be the same.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 19 дней назад
You mean the semi-major and semi-minor axes.
@Dreamprism
@Dreamprism 19 дней назад
Great summary video!
@Golfnut_2099
@Golfnut_2099 18 дней назад
Nice proofs. Very fascinating.
@hippophile
@hippophile 19 дней назад
I wondered about this very thing years ago. With the relatively modern benefit of calculus you can prove the relation easily enough, but fascinating to see the ancient arguments which somehow I missed out on. Thanks!!
@jojoonyoutube3748
@jojoonyoutube3748 19 дней назад
The animations in this video were very good, Presh!
@fun-damentals6354
@fun-damentals6354 19 дней назад
archimede's method was so good. felt like a plot twist. thats why i love maths
@wildrice1971
@wildrice1971 5 дней назад
Great video, Presh. Love your videos, but this one is one of my favorites ... really well explained, thank you!
@Gruuvin1
@Gruuvin1 2 дня назад
The last one resembles the shell method of integration (concentric circles). The formula for the area of a circle is the integral of the formula of the circle's circumference.
@gregorymccoy6797
@gregorymccoy6797 19 дней назад
I really like methods 2 and 3. This was a great video!
@christopherschmaltz182
@christopherschmaltz182 20 дней назад
Great video. Thanks.
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 19 дней назад
The answer to this question is quite easy, but a little in involved. You are give a straight line on a flat plane of a length, doesn’t matter how long but the whatever the length is you subdivided the line into 2 equal parts, each part represents a unit scale (for simplicities sake). We establish the center as the origin and one reference point at one end of the segment. The length of the line is 2, but we should imagine an esoteric line traveling back to the reference point so in actuality the line is length 4. What is the enclosed area. To have an area you need some sort of enclosure in s second dimension, but the two lines superposition so there is zero. Segments =2 Cum. Len = 4 Area = 0 So at the origin we bisect segment and stretch it so that now we have a square joining points equal distance on two orthogonal axis. The 4 points form 4 chords. We pretend we don’t know the length or any thing about sines and cosines. So if the line going from the reference point and back is a flat loop and we stretch it out the center we are adding length into to each half a segment. 2/2 = 1. The length the line is traveling towards is 1 unit from the circle and since its point was at the origin the distance traversed of the new point is 1. Thus new point it how far from old point, let’s just do one. The reference point is 1 unit in original dimension say a, in the new dimension created the new point is b So length is SQRT((a(new) - a(ref))^2 + (b(new) - b(ref))^2) = SQRT ((0-1)^2 + (1-0)^2) = SQRT(1+1) = SQRT (2). So the tilted square is composed of 4 chords, each chords on an imaginary ⭕️. What is the area under the chords? To arrive at the area we need to project a new radii that bisects each chord. At the intersect of each chord we have a bisector that junctions with 2 equal half chords in this case it’s the SQRT(2)/2=SQRT(1/2). This bisector length is SQRT(1- SQRT(1/2)^2) = SQRT(1/2). Thus treating the chord as the base the area = halfchord * bisector which is SQRT(1/2)^2 = 1/2, the combined area under the chords is 4*1/2 = 2 # c p A/c A 2 2.0 4 0 0 4 1.4 5.7 0.5 2 The answer is right here we just cannot see it yet. I will point it out where I hid it. When I said we will use the chord as the base this means we used the bisector as the height, so I did a change of basis. But the I calculated based on the halfchord and bisector, which is correct, but as we will see that in calculating the area we’re removing piecemeal half the perimeter. I will do one more. So we are going to create 8 new chords. Again we start at our reference point (1,0). So we have defined the length of the halfchord or bisector as SQRT(1/2). The new chord is SQRT((bisector-1)^2 + (halfchord-0)^2)^2. The segment outside of the bisector is (1- SQRT(1/2))^2 = 1.5 - SQRT(2) the square of the halfchord is SQRT(1/2)^2 Chord “⭕️/8” = SQRT((1.5 - SQRT(2))+(1/2))=0.7653, its bisector = 0.923 and the area/ea = 0.3535 and total area is 2.828 If we repeat this process about 23 more times eventually we get to a point where the bisector is indistinguishable from 1 on most devices and does not change, each new chord is equal to the previous halfchord. But unchanging is the per chord calculation of area, area is 1/2 base x height. So the question is why this is the case. The ⭕️ is an abstraction created by humans, it’s actually points on a line connected by chords. A rectangle is another abstraction created by humans. We defined this as 4 rectilinear line segments and using this system we define simple area. But the area swept by each line segment,chord on circle, is not rectilinear. When we bisect the chord we generate 2 right triangles, when the diagonal sides are abutted to each other they are rectilinear and we have a calculable area, but in doing that, in 2-D space the displacement of the chord in simple area with one dimension now superpose half upon itself. So there is one detail here we need to make this work. In the beginning of the problem I set the parameter of the argument. Whatever the length is I am assigning a new length of 2 new units, I then mystically stretched the line by 2 units so that I could fill in an empty area. These are artificial processes, they are not real, they begin in the imagination. In doing this I forced the radius to be 1, in the third step I forced out another dimension. So let’s argue the original line length is 200, I set its length to 2, I stretched its length to 400 (4) so it would return to its reference point, then I processvely stretched it in another dimension to 628.32. In essence I forced most of the line into 2 dimensional space by creating a curvature. The force is 100 outward in every direction. And so to make this work in need to multiply the area I made by the area scale factor which is r^2. Where is this, let’s look at the first second dimensional stretch. I forced out in the second dimension 100 units. I then defined a line going from the second dimension back to the first. I then defined the area as area between the line and the origin as defined by to radii. So now I have an area centered around a direction vector (45°), so that area is 0 units/height on one end and 141.42 units per height one the other end of each radii. But the radii point along different vectors, the bisector splits the difference. In doing this we create a new basis z for each radii which displaces along z a fraction of the displacement along x (for the reference point). As a consequence that displacement is the cosine of the angle which centers the bisector between to radii that with the chord form the area. The halfchord just happens to be the sine of half the angle of the chord. Thus in this case area along each bisector is (r * sine = halfchord)(r*cosine = bisector) = r^2 sin*cos where angle is 1/2 the chord. As perimeter goes to 2pi, cosine goes to r and area goes to the r^2 * sine of 1/2 the chords angle. In this case To der
@nothing-jw2ns
@nothing-jw2ns 17 дней назад
BUT MY DOUBT IS STILL NOT CLEARED . I always had the doubt about the discovery of pi . Like you have told , old mathematicians found out that every circles circumference to diameter ratio is a constant , which was later given the notation pi . But we tell pi is an irrational number , and from what i know an irrational number cannot be a ratio . If the old guys were trying to find out a ratio then how did we end up in an irrational number?
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 17 дней назад
An irrational number is a real number that cannot be expressed as the ratio of two integers. π is defined as the ratio of circumference to diameter, and these quantities cannot both be integers at the same time.
@ChrisLee-yr7tz
@ChrisLee-yr7tz 8 дней назад
Of course an irrational number can be a ratio...
@nothing-jw2ns
@nothing-jw2ns 8 дней назад
Oh rational numbers were ratios of integers , sorry my bad So for ever circle whose radius is a whole number , the circumference would be an irrational number, which is a multiple of pi How did the old guys measured the circumference of circles soo accurately I think today we know pi's value upto tenthousandth place or something. This value must have come from measuring circles right ? Then how were they so precise in doing such measurements Or does this have to do something with the equation of circle
@MateusScheffer
@MateusScheffer 18 дней назад
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@ajl1000
@ajl1000 20 дней назад
This was amazing thanks
@openmind5973
@openmind5973 20 дней назад
What a great channel.
@callyral
@callyral 20 дней назад
idk i just imagine having 3 squares of side r, and then there's a little bit left to fill once you like cut the corners
@TheRealFOSFOR
@TheRealFOSFOR 19 дней назад
Exactly how I imagine it, to remember it more easily.
@lightyagmi4925
@lightyagmi4925 18 дней назад
You are me Bruh😂
@tahanibarazi5609
@tahanibarazi5609 19 дней назад
Loved it ❤ my fav proof is the 2nd one
@saroshbharucha
@saroshbharucha 20 дней назад
Amazing proofs
@Gideon_Judges6
@Gideon_Judges6 20 дней назад
The symbol pi, has been around THOUSANDS of years. It just was used for the phoneme p.
@GU-jt5fe
@GU-jt5fe 19 дней назад
What do you use to make your animations? They're superb!
@henryucha2705
@henryucha2705 19 дней назад
I love this channel
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider 19 дней назад
From first principles, we define A = 2πr. Now consider the infinitesimal increase in area δA arising from an infinitesimal increase in radius δr. That is very close to 2πr.δr. So δA ≈ 2πrδr which leads to δA/δr ≈ 2πr. In the limit as δr tends to 0, the approximations becomes an equality and we get dA/dr = 2πr. That can be solved for A by taking the integral from 0 to r and we immediately find A = πr^2. It's not particularly rigorous, but once you can see that the rate of increase of the area of a circle wrt its radius is 2πr, it should be obvious what the area is.
@Torawakamaru
@Torawakamaru 16 дней назад
That first proof (using the regular n-gon) becomes even nicer if you use τ (tau) as the circle constant (ratio of radius to circumference ≒ 6.28) rather than π. C = τr A = ½Cr = ½τrr = ½τr² Which maintains the ½pa form from the n-gons.
@drashokkumar9209
@drashokkumar9209 19 дней назад
During our school days , we did read about derivation of area of a circle . It was there in famous Geometry book by HALL and STEVENS . Both 1st and 2nd methods were mentioned .
@vmadhavan435
@vmadhavan435 20 дней назад
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@AyuPlus
@AyuPlus 18 дней назад
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@olerask2457
@olerask2457 17 дней назад
The third example is almost the radial integral: Let A(x) be the area of a circle of radius x. Then A(x+h) - A(x) is the area of a radial slice of the circle, and it must be limited by h*2pi*x and h*2pi*(x+h), when you try to convert the slice into a rectangle. By the ordinary "sandwich"-method, you get A'(x)=2pi*x, and thus A(x)=pi*x^2, which ends the proof 😊. Note that the derivative of the area is the circumference, which makes perfectly sense if you think about it a few seconds 😎.
@tmendoza6
@tmendoza6 19 дней назад
Most Excellent!
@manuelpassarella
@manuelpassarella 3 дня назад
You can also do it by integrating the circumference by radius
@calvinjackson8110
@calvinjackson8110 9 дней назад
Find the function F(n) = the area of a regular polygon of n sides inscribed in a circle of radius r. Then take the limit of F(n) as n tends to infinity. I did it as an undergraduate taking calculus 2. I found it convincing.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 20 дней назад
They used pi to represent the value because there was no Greek letter for cake, which as we all know is the superior circular dessert.
@davidlohmann5098
@davidlohmann5098 19 дней назад
It seems like the common insight to all these proofs is: 1) The circular curve can be approximated by a sequence of straight lines placed regularly in some pattern close to the curve (ie a regular piecewise linear approximation). 2) The more lines there are, the more closely the sequence approximates the curve with less distortion to the area. In my opinion, calculating π must have been much more difficult than finding the formula for the area given pi. If I recall correctly, I heard somewhere that Archimedes approximated π by finding the perimeter of an inscribed (inside the circle) regular polygon as the video showed, but also a circumscribed (outside the circle) regular polygon. Then he could measure or calculate the perimeter of the outer (circumscribed) and inner (inscribed) regular polygons and use this to figure out some sort of upper and lower bound on π (I might be citing this story incorrectly).
@divisix024
@divisix024 19 дней назад
Yeah I hear that too, I also heard that Archimedes as an Ancient Greek was not comfortable with the idea of limits, so he presented it by saying π always lies between two specific numbers given by inscribed and circumscribed regular polygons, where the polygons may have as many sides as desired.
@Ninja20704
@Ninja20704 17 дней назад
Yes that is true. It was one of the oldest methods for calculating pi, albeit very inefficient. Archamides stopped at the 96-gon and still only managed to get that pi was between 3.1408 and 3.1429, only guranteeing him 2 correct decimal places
@Faz527
@Faz527 9 дней назад
Wow!..really nice
@gracemember101
@gracemember101 13 дней назад
Pie are not square. Pie are round.
@JMan1380
@JMan1380 19 дней назад
Love this history of math stuff. I know middle school and high school students don't really care about where math comes from (I didn't), but I do think it's vital to teach it before college. You never know whose interest could pique.
@ronaldmontgomery8446
@ronaldmontgomery8446 19 дней назад
While target shooting at 300 yards I found something strange. 1 MOA (1/60 of a degree) at 300 yards is pi, the cord dimension of 1MOA included angle in inches. I checked this on my calculator it rounds to 10 digits so I used EXCEL. (300 yds) 10800" x 1/120° sin x 2 = π and it is correct to 98 digits.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 19 дней назад
There is an explanation for this. It involves trigonometry, including measuring angles in radians. For convenience, let τ (tau) represent the number of radians in a full turn: 2π, or roughly 6.28. So, τ radians is the same as 360 degrees. 1 MOA is 1/60 of a degree, so it is 1/21,600 of a full turn. Because there are τ radians in a full turn, this means that 1 MOA is τ/21,600 radians. Now, we want to calculate what 1 MOA is at 300 yards, or 10,800 inches. Let's call this length x. Imagine you are target shooting, standing at the point A. Draw a line segment from A to the point of the target's center, T. This has a length of 10,800 inches. Now at the target point, go at a right angle from the previous line segment, and draw a line segment of length x. We'll call the endpoint B (for bullet). Now draw a final line segment from A to B, and all the line segments together form a triangle. Specifically, it is a right triangle, with its right angle at the target point T. Now for the trigonometry. We know that the tangent of an angle is the ratio of the opposite side to the adjacent side: tan(A) = (opp) / (adj) Here, the angle A is τ/21,600 radians, as mentioned before. The opposite is x, which is the length we want to find, and the adjacent side is the 10,800-inch line segment from you to the target. Let's plug that in: tan(τ/21,600) = x / 10,800 Doing a little algebra, we multiply both sides by 10,800 to solve for x: 10,800 * tan(τ/21,600) = x Or, if you want the x on the left: x = 10,800 * tan(τ/21,600) So how do we find an approximation for this value? Well, the tangent of an angle is the same as the sine of that angle, divided by the cosine of the same angle: x = 10,800 * sin(τ/21,600) / cos(τ/21,600) Let's think about the unit circle definition of the trig functions, where the unit circle is the circle of radius 1. When you go a certain number of radians around, that's the same as traveling that distance along the unit circle, counterclockwise starting from the right side. Now, note that τ/21,600 is a very small number. For very small numbers, the sine of that number of radians is about the same as that number itself. Meanwhile, the cosine of a very small angle is about 1. So now let's return to our equation and put those approximations in. We'll use the approximately equals sign (≈) to signify that it's only approximate. x = 10,800 * sin(τ/21,600) / cos(τ/21,600) x ≈ 10,800 * (τ/21,600) / 1 And now it's just arithmetic: x ≈ 10,800 * (τ/21,600) x ≈ 10,800τ / 21,600 x ≈ τ / 2 Remember, τ is double of π, so π is half of τ: x ≈ π So, x is approximately π, meaning the length we were looking for is approximately π inches. And we are done.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 19 дней назад
My previous reply said, I went to some online calculators to find the actual decimal representation of 10,800 * tan(τ/21,600), and the number of matching digits is nowhere near 98. For reference, I will put the true value of π followed by what I got: 3.14159265... 3.14159274... I don't know why there's a discrepancy between our results.
@ronaldmontgomery8446
@ronaldmontgomery8446 19 дней назад
@@isavenewspapers8890 a calculator rounds the numbers past 9 sometimes internal to 14. I set excel to use 100 digits pi and sin and the difference was 0.0.....all the way to 98 and that is still rounded. Oh and you should use sin not tan (Isosceles triangle, included angle) 2 right triangles. the side C is 10800 (hypotenuse) small side is π. My hand held TI-30Xa says the difference is 0.000000011
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 19 дней назад
@@ronaldmontgomery8446 Let me see if I understand correctly. Your calculation is 10800 * sin((1/120) deg) * 2, and this results in a number extremely close to π, right? I ran this past multiple calculators: Desmos, WolframAlpha, Google, and my own Casio fx-300ES PLUS from high school. All seemed to report the same value for this expression: 3.141592642... Indeed, taking the difference between π and this, we get: 0.000000011... Or, in scientific notation, this is approximately: 1.1 * 10^(-8) This matches the result from your TI-30Xa. It still seems strange that Excel doesn't agree, though.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 19 дней назад
@@ronaldmontgomery8446 Desmos, WolframAlpha, the Google calculator, and my Casio fx-30ES PLUS all report a value of 0.000000011 for π - (10800 * sin((1/120) deg) * 2), the same as your TI-30Xa. I don't know why Excel doesn't agree.
@randomdude3066
@randomdude3066 19 дней назад
Years and years of math education and I don't recall ever being taught any of these derivations. I was just told how to calculate it.
@raphaelgomes2947
@raphaelgomes2947 20 дней назад
Could you explain similarly how/why volume formulas work? I know that's kind of broad, but this was so well done I think you could explain it simply
@carultch
@carultch 13 дней назад
Here's how to derive the volume of a sphere. Set up the equation, y = sqrt(R^2 - x^2), as the outline of its cross section. This comes from the equation of a circle, x^2 + y^2 = R^2, solved for y. Consider an infinitesimal disk at each x-position along this shape, to form the body of revolution. It has a radius of y, and an infinitesimal thickness of dx. Each disk is a cylinder, so its volume is dx times the area of the circular face. Thus each volume element, dV, will be given by: dV = pi*y^2 dx Put it together with our equation for y: dV = pi*(R^2 - x^2) dx And integrate from x = -R to x = +R, to "add up" all these infinitesimal disks. V = integral dV V = pi*integral (R^2 - x^2) dx from -R to +R Simple application of the power rule. Boost each exponent by 1, and have the new exponent join the coefficient in the denominator: V = pi*[R^2*x - 1/3*x^3] evaluated from x = -R to +R V = pi*[(R^3 - 1/3*R^3) - (-R^3 + 1/3*R^3)] Combine and simplify the fraction, and we get: V = 4/3*pi*R^3
@Soma-sx2qe
@Soma-sx2qe 7 дней назад
I still Remember i studied about the pie chapter at the Finals of my grade 7 it was fun i was statiesd that i could solve some questions Perimeter=πr^2 and the second Area= 2πr those are the 2 formulas i like it very much.
@NLGeebee
@NLGeebee 10 дней назад
Draw a infinite number of radii by rotating a single radius around the centre of the circle an infinite small angle theta and then add them all up. Then the area is the double integral from 0 to 2pi of the integral from 0 to r of r dr d-theta.
@tedr.5978
@tedr.5978 20 дней назад
You might want to re-read Archimedes' "Measurement of a Circle".
@dyhrdmet
@dyhrdmet 19 дней назад
nice music as the circle was unwrapped in the 3rd proof. Interesting how each proof used limits to get from a concrete figure towards infinity and a circle.
@AdrianColley
@AdrianColley 19 дней назад
These are genius, they're so intuitive. I did it myself by summing the areas of n isosceles triangles with apex angle (2π/n) and equal side lengths r, using the fact that sin α = α for small α, and tending n to infinity; but that's hugely complicated compared to any of the wonderful proofs here.
@EricPham-gr8pg
@EricPham-gr8pg 2 дня назад
That's why the dollars is going to drop when people ready to tell the true ( actually the diference of value of π is inversely proportional to the difference of radii of the circles. Meaning larger the radius smaller π
@scrazy1
@scrazy1 20 дней назад
Thank u
@ingiford175
@ingiford175 20 дней назад
One thing if you try the second method on a sphere to get the surface area, you will get the wrong answer.... 3blue1brown did a video on why it breaks for a sphere.
@marscience7819
@marscience7819 19 дней назад
the surface of a sphere "bulges". It's not on a plane. That's why it won't work. You have to include the additional area of the bulge.
@hafez591
@hafez591 20 дней назад
I think the question is how to establish a way to prove that this constant ratio of circumference to diameter that we call pi is equal to 3.14...etc . After that areas and volumes follow.
@TekCroach
@TekCroach 18 дней назад
wow... very interesting... haven't thought about how the formula was derived thus far...
@Tiqerboy
@Tiqerboy 17 дней назад
I remember at one time thinking π = 22/7 exactly. I missed the point being that it's just a very good approximation that works for a lot of everyday calculations.
@mikehigbee2320
@mikehigbee2320 19 дней назад
That was cool. Those old guys were pretty smart.
@kmyc89
@kmyc89 20 дней назад
Never was a fan of Method #2. Method #1 would be great to teach in schools, while method #3 (via numberphile and 1minutephysics) is my personal favorite
@AFSMG
@AFSMG 19 дней назад
Maravilloso
@farrier2708
@farrier2708 20 дней назад
Stop the vid at 8:44 you will see that Rabi Abraham bar Hiyya's proof resembles a Menorah. What an intriguing coincidence. 🙂
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 20 дней назад
Maybe it's not a coincidence. Maybe that's where he got his inspiration for the proof?
@rashidisw
@rashidisw 19 дней назад
The animated is still wrong if the slice are not thin enough, because what you get are not stack of rectangles as illustrated, but rather stack of trapezoids.
@farrier2708
@farrier2708 19 дней назад
@@rashidisw Your comment is correct but it says more about your sense of humour than anything else.
@Humanity789
@Humanity789 16 дней назад
How about the other simple calculation for 3rd method? The area contain circles perimeter with r=0 to r=R so integrain of (2pi*r) and r from (0 to R) will be (2* pi * R^2 / 2) or simply (pi * R^2)
@mikeroman5208
@mikeroman5208 20 дней назад
Perhaps you could also expand on how these ancient civilizations came up with the approximation of 3.14###. before the decimal system we use today came into being. I understand that they must have had some way of doing this but nothing I've found gives a satisfactory answer.
@robinhill259
@robinhill259 19 дней назад
At school we were just told the πr² formula. One afternoon I pondered upon the derivation of this formula and came up with the pizza and the onion methods. This shows that it does not take a genius to figure it out. One evening when learning about relativity I wondered how much time would slow down depending upon your velocity, so I drew myself a simple spacetime diagram and came up with an equation, which a few years later found in a physics book to be the Lorentz transformation. My point is that things are often far more simple than you might imagine. To begin with a problem might appear somewhat daunting, yet on reflection having solved it you see how simple it is.
@outtakontroll3334
@outtakontroll3334 18 дней назад
yeah or maybe it shows you are unusually smart
@rodbenson5879
@rodbenson5879 2 дня назад
Is there any deeper meaning in the idea that the derivative of the area, with respect to the radius is the circumference?
@davidorr6627
@davidorr6627 6 дней назад
The last section says at the bottom "A Mechanical Derivation of the Area of the Sphere". Should it be "Circle"?
@teachmath3394
@teachmath3394 20 дней назад
Hhhh You are the one who impressed me today .... Thanks again
@Jim-tv2tk
@Jim-tv2tk День назад
Haven't watched but going with, because that is the definition of pi. Kind of like asking why is the speed of light C and not something else.
@Faz527
@Faz527 9 дней назад
The ancients really had the ability of reasoning and mental extrapolation !
@user-cy9nh8xx4c
@user-cy9nh8xx4c 11 дней назад
I was thinking about cutting the circle to its center and turn it into a strip of paper where the breadth is r and its length is pi r
@fizisistguy
@fizisistguy 19 дней назад
Ancient People having better imagination than us...
@anuragguptamr.i.i.t.2329
@anuragguptamr.i.i.t.2329 19 дней назад
Method4:- Consider a thin ring inside a circle, just like method3, with radius gradient dX and circumference 2piX. Integrate 2piX with respect to X and we get the area.
@Horinius
@Horinius 19 дней назад
@1:20 Actually, Liu Hui (劉徽) found the fraction approximation 3927/1250, not the decimal representation.
@sjn7220
@sjn7220 20 дней назад
But how do you prove C/d for any circle is a constant (pi)?
@ericzhu6620
@ericzhu6620 20 дней назад
you can use a similar argument to similar triangles having the same ratio between sides
@jimi02468
@jimi02468 20 дней назад
Imagine you have a circle. You also have a bigger circle which means that the C and d for that circle are X times larger compared to the smaller one. So the the bigger circle has circumference of X*C and diameter of X*d. The ratio between the the two is then (X*C)/(X*d) which is equal to just C/d.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 20 дней назад
@@jimi02468I believe the comment was asking how we know that the two measurements get scaled up by the same amount in the first place, which this reply does not justify.
@jimi02468
@jimi02468 20 дней назад
@@isavenewspapers8890 Well if you think about the fact that two circles of different sizes are otherwise identical. What does it mean to be identical in that way? It means that the ratio between any two lengths is the same for both shapes. I mean, imagine that you have two maps or something but they are different sizes. One of them fits to a page of a book and the other fills up the whole table. If one of the maps shows that the distance from your home to a grocery store is, for example, 1/4 of the distance between your home and a football stadium, that's obviously going to be the same ratio of 1/4 regardless of which map you use, or even in real life. Just like any map will have the same ratio between any two distances, any circle will have the same ratio C/d.
@hafez591
@hafez591 20 дней назад
Question is how to prove that pi=3.14.....etc (other than using ropes to measure circumference and radius)
@desrtsku
@desrtsku 19 дней назад
Okay. But how did they even calculate π?
@hugooliveira4440
@hugooliveira4440 18 дней назад
Empirically by measuring many circumferences and dividing by its diameter thus achiving an estimate. They did it as accurately as possible to get an aproximate value. Hear he explaining it from 0:30 to 1:00
@desrtsku
@desrtsku 18 дней назад
@@hugooliveira4440 I'll adjust the question, then. How did they even "measure the circumference"?
@hugooliveira4440
@hugooliveira4440 18 дней назад
@@desrtsku I guess there is many ways to do this. The most simple method and the one that I know of is to simply surrond a perfectly round object (it could even be a draw of a circle made with compass) with a thin cord of some kind that doesnt stretch. Surround it inch by inch accurately . Then simply straight up the cord and mesure it with a ruler. It just happens that even in Archimedes time they already had compasses. Quite rudimentary indeed. But draw a big enough circle and you will easily get it right at least 2 decimals of the pi number
@carultch
@carultch 13 дней назад
@@desrtsku Archimedes determined pi, by calculating the perimeter of a 96-gon, and bounding it by its cross-flats "diameter" and its "cross-points" diameter. People continued with this method of bisecting polygons to calculate pi, until Newton discovered a method that was much more computationally efficient.
@rmela4501
@rmela4501 17 дней назад
How come i can't find a similar demonstration for surface area or volume of sphere?
@huzefa6421
@huzefa6421 20 дней назад
Why is there ambiguity going on recently ? Sum of angles inside a circle = 360 OR ♾️ , 0.99999 = 1 or ≠ 1 ( by law of scientific significant figures ) ,
@carultch
@carultch 13 дней назад
Because "angles inside a circle" isn't a precisely defined mathematical term. If you mean interior angles, this is a specific term for polygons, where the interior angles always add to (n - 2)*180 degrees, where n is the number of polygon sides. In the limit as n goes to infinity for a regular polygon, the polygon approaches a circle. So plugging in n=infinity, shows us that the number of "interior angles" of a circle should add up to infinity. But it's difficult to say exactly what you mean by "interior angles", since they aren't angles between straight lines. If you just mean how many degrees are there in a full rotation, then the answer is 360 degrees. This is a different question entirely than the sum of the interior angles inside the shape. If the angles in question add to 360 degrees for a circle, then they add to 360 degrees for all shapes. It is the exterior angles of the circle that add up to 360 degrees; not the "interior angles".
@Sum_1human
@Sum_1human 18 дней назад
Its how much the radius line rotates thus it equals radius×circumfrence but since the raduis line has two ends so its rotation is half .therefore its =2pieR×R/2 =2pie R^2. Thats how i thought it
@pramodsingh7569
@pramodsingh7569 20 дней назад
Thanks
@wildfire_
@wildfire_ 19 дней назад
It’s amazing how much school doesn’t teach you. From the area of a circle to the quadratic formula, they teach a lot of hows, but not a lot of whys. It makes sense for brevity’s sake, but it’s almost like they’re trying to make you hate math by making it a memory game rather than a problem solving game.
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 18 дней назад
It really depends on your school(s) and your teacher(s). Most of my math teachers in high school were pretty good at explaining both why and how. For example, we derived the quadratic formula, so we knew why it worked.
@catsrule7751
@catsrule7751 13 дней назад
A circle, centered around the orgin with radius R can be defined by the equation: x^2+y^2=r^2. But, when does the limit as N -> inf. sided polygon inscribed inside a circle, centered around the Orgin approach the circle equation? Also, if it approaches the shape of a circle, then how come polygons corner points are connected with line segments, but 2 points on a circle's circumference aren't connected with a line segment, being shaped more like a curve between 2 points? Moreover, can it be proved that this area between the polygon and the curve of the circle converges, and approaches ZERO as the number of points on the infinite sided polygon approaches infinity?
@dhpbear2
@dhpbear2 17 дней назад
8:42 - Ironic that in the Rabi Abraham's solution, it appears as a many-candled Menorah while unwrapping!
@TypoKnig
@TypoKnig 20 дней назад
Interesting that the ancients used arguments that took a limit to infinity, when the formalism to support the concepts of limits or of infinity wasn’t established.
@kazedcat
@kazedcat 19 дней назад
Archimedes has formalized a version of it. He called it a method of exhaustion. Instead of just having an inscribed polygon he also used an outer polygon to bound the area of a circle between two values. Then increasing the number of sides of the polygon the lower bounding value and upper bounding value would approach a fixed value that would be the area of the circle.
@Erlewyn
@Erlewyn 18 дней назад
I had never seen the third method before, it's pretty nice (but was probably a pain to formulate and enunciate clearly back then).
@darreljones8645
@darreljones8645 19 дней назад
Can anyone tell me when and where the rabbi behind method #3 lived?
@NyznTvfk
@NyznTvfk 19 дней назад
Why jacobian at the last method?
@time_sir
@time_sir 19 дней назад
Please make a video on Area of sphere = 4 Pi r2
@Vibe77Guy
@Vibe77Guy 8 дней назад
Alternately you can simply roll a wheel of diameter D, x number of revolutions, and distance traveled will be D÷2πr= revolutions. Interestingly enough. If r=h+t hub radius plus tread thickness. And h=t=2"/π What you end up with is a version of the viral incorrect video. 8"÷2(2"+2")=1 revolution. Also, you find that D÷2πr≠D/2πr Illustrating the difference between ÷ and /.
@portalopener7759
@portalopener7759 18 дней назад
More information saying that traditional Pi = 3.141592653589793 is false part 2 - kloka: Pi is also defined as the ratio of the area of a circle divided by the area of the square that is located on the radius of the circle. If a circle is created with a diameter that is the same measure as the longer edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle then one-quarter of the circle’s circumference is the same measure as the shorter edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle, plus both the surface area of the circle and the surface area of the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle have the same surface area. A Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle can be divided into 8 Kepler right triangles and if the shortest edge length of a Kepler right triangle is reduced to 1 then the hypotenuse is equal to the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895, while the second longest edge length of the Kepler right triangle is equal to the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069, according to the Pythagorean theorem. A Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276. A circle with a diameter that is equal to the longer edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles also has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276. The longer edge length of the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276 is also equal to 2 times √φ = 2.544039299028138. The shorter edge length of the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles has a surface area equal to 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276 is also equal to 2. A circle with a diameter that is equal to the longer edge length of a Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 rectangle that has been divided into 8 Kepler right triangles also has a radius that is equal to the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069. √φ times √φ = the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895. Circumference of the circle = 8. 1-quarter of the circle’s circumference = 2. Diameter of the circle = 2 times √φ = 2.544039299028138. Radius of the circle = the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069. The surface area of the circle divided the surface area of the square that is located on the radius of the circle = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144, because 4/√φ times √φ times √φ = 4 times √φ/((φ)) = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144. Surface area of the circle = 4/√φ times √φ times √φ = 4 times √φ = 5.088078598056276. Radius of the circle = the Square root of the golden ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069. Radius of the circle squared = √φ times √φ = the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = (φ) = (√(5) plus 1)/2 = 1.618033988749895. Pi is also defined as the surface area of the circle divided the surface area of the square that is located on the radius of the circle.
@tonyb83
@tonyb83 19 дней назад
Ok, but how in the first place was the ratio of c/d derived. Was it derived by measuring c and d or what?
@Advait_Ashwani2007
@Advait_Ashwani2007 19 дней назад
Ya, it was derived by calculating c and d.
@tonyb83
@tonyb83 18 дней назад
@@Advait_Ashwani2007 Ok, but how were c and d "calculated"? Were they measured or what?
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 18 дней назад
@@tonyb83 Initially yes, measured.
@Sg190th
@Sg190th 20 дней назад
Of course it's related with calculus. Just like why deriving the area of a circle is its circumference.
@isavenewspapers8890
@isavenewspapers8890 19 дней назад
If you're talking about taking the derivative, you mean "differentiating". The word "deriving" has a separate meaning in mathematics, making it sound like you mean finding the formula for circular area.
@arthal136
@arthal136 19 дней назад
Why is the circumference/diameter a constant ? What proves it ?
@marscience7819
@marscience7819 19 дней назад
Experiment. This is often done with kids. Use string to make 3-5 circles with considerably different radii. My teacher in 4th grade used thin cylinders with different radii, wrapped the string around it, careful tied the string together, and carefully cut off excess. The students, in groups, one for each circle, then carefully took the string off, cut it, laid it along a straight line, and measured it's length with a decent ruler, then measured the radius of the thin cylinder, and took the ratio. Each group had a very different sized circle, but we all got about the same ratio of the measurments.
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff 18 дней назад
Easy, measure the diameter (d) and circumference (c) of any given circle in the universe. Calculate c/d. You will always get the same value (pi). It's constant because the scale of the circle doesn't matter.
@HVAC_Tips_Tricks_Calcs
@HVAC_Tips_Tricks_Calcs 7 дней назад
So what calculation gets you to pi?
@nightwishlover8913
@nightwishlover8913 19 дней назад
"exactly the approximation"? That ranks up there with some of the silliest expressions I've ever heard - along with the ridiculous "very unique"!
@portalopener7759
@portalopener7759 18 дней назад
“11 methods for finding the surface area of a circle”: Method 1. The surface area of a circle can be known if the radius of a circle is squared and then multiplied by Golden Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144. . Method 2. The surface area of a circle can also be known if half the circumference of the circle is multiplied by the measure for the diameter of the circle and then the result of multiplying half the measure for the circumference of the circle must be divided into 2 resulting in the measure for the surface area of the circle. An isosceles triangle that is made from 2 Kepler right triangles has the same surface area as a circle that has a diameter that is equal in measure to the height of the isosceles triangle that is made from 2 Kepler right triangles. If half the circumference of a circle is divided by the diameter of the circle the result is the half of the ratio Pi. Method 3. The surface area of a circle can also be found if the radius of the circle is multiplied by half the circumference of the circle. If half the circumference of a circle is divided by the radius of a circle the result is the ratio Pi. Method 4. The surface area of a circle can also be discovered if 1 quarter of the circle’s circumference is multiplied by the measure for the diameter of the circle. Method 5. If the surface area of square that has a width equal in measure to 1 quarter of a circle’s circumference is multiplied by the square root of the Golden ratio = √φ = 1.272019649514069 the result is the surface area of the circle. Method 6. If the diameter of a circle is divided by the ratio √√φ = 1.127838485561682 the result is the edge of a square that has the same surface area as the circle. Please remember that the ratio √√φ = 1.127838485561682 is the square root of the ratio √φ = 1.272019649514069 and the ratio 1.272019649514069 is the square root of the Golden ratio of cosine (36 degrees) multiplied by 2 = 1.618033988749895. Method 7. If the surface area of a square that has a width that is equal in measure to the diameter of a circle is divided by the square root of the Golden ratio = √φ = 1.272019649514069 the result is the surface area of the circle. For example: If the shortest edge length of a Kepler right triangle is 36 equal units of measure and also is equal to the surface area of a circle the second longest edge length of the Kepler right triangle can be equal in measure to the surface area of a square with a width that is equal to the diameter of the circle that has a surface area that is the same measure as the shortest edge length of the Kepler right triangle. The mean proportional of a rectangle with its longer edge length being equal to the second longest edge length of the Kepler right triangle while the shorter edge length of the Kepler right triangle is equal to 1 out of 36 equal units if measure from the shortest edge length of the Kepler right triangle is equal in measure to both the width of the square and the diameter of the circle that has a surface area that is equal in measure to the shortest edge length of the Kepler right triangle. 1 time the second longest edge length of the Kepler right triangle is equal to the surface area of the appropriate rectangle that has its longer edge length equal in measure to the second longest edge length of the Kepler right triangle. The mean proportional is the square root of the surface area of a rectangle. The surface area for any rectangle can be derived if the shorter edge length is multiplied by the longer edge length. Method 8. If the surface area of a square that has a diagonal that is equal in measure to the diameter of a circle is multiplied by half of Golden Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 = 2/√φ = 1.572302755514847 the result is the surface area of the circle. Method 9. If the surface area of a square that has a diagonal that is equal in measure to the diameter of a circle is divided by half the square root of the Golden ratio = 0.636009824757035 the result is the surface area of the circle. Method 10: Multiply the diameter of the circle by (2/(√(√(3)) times √√ φ)) = the ratio 1.347419325335723 to get the edge of an equilateral triangle that has the same surface area as the circle. Multiply the edge of the equilateral triangle by half the width of the equilateral triangle times the square root of 3 divided by 2 to get the surface area of the equilateral triangle and confirm that both the equilateral triangle and the circle have the same surface area. The ratio 1.347419325335723 can be derived through the following formulas: (2/(√(√(3)) times √√ φ)) = 1.347419325335723. 2/(√(√3) multiplied by √√ φ = 1.347419325335723. 2/(√(√3) multiplied by 1.127838485561682= 1.347419325335723. 2/(square root (square root 3) multiplied by square root square root Phi = 1.347419325335723. 2(φ/3) ^ (1/4)/ √ φ = 1.347419325335723. 2(1.618033988749895/3) ^ (1/4)/ 1.272019649514069 = 1.34741932533572. 2/(3 X Golden Ratio) ^ (1/4) = 1.347419325335723. 2/(3 times Golden Ratio) ^ (1/4) = 1.347419325335723. 2/(3 x cos (36 degrees) x 2) ^ (1/4) = 1.347419325335723. 2/(3 x sin (54 degrees) x 2) ^ (1/4) = 1.347419325335723. 2/(3 multiplied by φ) ^ (1/4) = 1.347419325335723. 2 divided by the Golden ratio multiplied by 3 ^ (1/4) = 1.347419325335723. 3 times the Golden ratio = 4.854101966249685. (1/2 + √(5)/2 ) = The Golden ratio = 1.618033988749895. Method 11: Divide the diameter of the circle by the ratio = 1.479351567442321 to get the edge of a Pentagon that has the same surface area as the circle. Multiply the edge of the Pentagon by half the edge of the Pentagon times TAN (54 degrees) divided by 2 times 5 to calculate the surface area of the Pentagon and also confirm that both the Pentagon and the circle have the same surface area. The ratio 1.479351567442321 can be derived through the following formulas: (√(34 times 17 times TAN (54 degrees)/2 times 5) times √√φ/34) = the ratio 1.479351567442321. √(34 times 17 times TAN (54 degrees)/2 times 5) times 1.127838485561682/34 = 1.479351567442321. (75/32 + (35 square root (5))/32) ^ (1/4) = 1.479351567442321. 1/2 (5/2 (15 + 7 square root (5))) ^ (1/4) = 1.479351567442321. 1/2 square root (5) (1/2 (1 + 2/square root (5)) (1 + square root (5))) ^ (1/4) = 1.479351567442321. 34 multiplied by 17 multiplied by TAN (54 degrees) divided by 2 multiplied by 5 = 1988.87187508084575. 34 X 17 X TAN (54 degrees)/2 X 5 = 1988.87187508084575. Square root of 1988.87187508084575 multiplied by √√φ = the square root of the square root of Phi = 1.127838485561682 divided by 34 = 1.479351567442321. √1988.87187508084575 multiplied by √√φ/34 = 1.479351567442321. √1988.87187508084575 X √√φ/34 = 1.479351567442321. The true value of Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029 is NOT Transcendental: Pi = 4/√φ = 4 divided by 1.2720196495141 = 3.144605511029. π = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144. THE REAL VALUE OF Pi IS NOT TRANSCENDENTAL BECAUSE THE REAL VALUE OF PI = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144 IS THE ONLY VALUE OF PI THAT CAN FIT THE FOLLOWING POLYNOMIAL EQUATION: 4th dimensional equation/polynomial for Golden Pi = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693 Minimal Polynomial: x4 + 16x2 - 256 = 0. www.tiger-algebra.com/drill/x~4-16x~2-256=0/ THE REAL VALUE OF PI = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144: Please copy and paste the following link into your web browser if you cannot click onto the following link: www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4+divided+by+the+square+root+of+the+golden+ratio PLEASE CLICK ON THE RED DOTS IN THE FOLLOWING LINK TO CONFIRM THAT THE REAL VALUE OF PI = 4/√φ = 3.1446 IS NOT TRANSCENDENTAL. THE REAL VALUE OF PI = 4/√φ = 3.144605511029693144. Minimal polynomial: x4 + 16x2 - 256 = 0 www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x4+%2B+16x2+%E2%80%93+256+%3D+0 3D plot of a graph proving that the real value of Pi is NOT transcendental: (Please click on to the following links or copy and them into your web browser): PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE GOOLE DRIVE LINK drive.google.com/file/d/1nT0xGIYHHim49pwjo9oo80MmyWaqOWj1/view?usp=sharing • Panagiotis Stefanides fourth order equation: www.stefanides.gr/Html/piquad.html • Panagiotis Stefanides: Quadrature of circle, theoretical definition: www.stefanides.gr/Html/QuadCirc.html
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