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Clarification:
Bulgarians were not the majority population in Dobruja at the time
Why is the region of Dobruja/Dobrugeq split in two? that's what I answer in this video.
Dobruja is a region in the east Balkans, between the Danube River and Black Sea, shared between the nations of Bulgaria and Romania. The conflict and almost conflict these two nations have had there is interesting.
Also, from now on sources will be in the description.
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archive.spectator.co.uk/articl...
www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/q...
bnr.bg/en/post/100437047/bnr-...
friendshipbridge.eu/2022/02/1...

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@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
People. Please stop your childish arguments Bulgarians were *not* the majority population of Dobruja at the time. But the territory was seen as kind of Bulgarian. And I now understand Dobruja isn't pronounced "do-bru-ya". I shouldn't have assumed that. Wanna make that clear! And in the future I will do my best to be better
@mrjaman3752
@mrjaman3752 Месяц назад
Thats debatible, Dobruja at the time didnt have a "majority" to be fair, it wasnt either Bulgarian or Romanian, there were a bunch of Bulgarians and a bunch of Romanians, but neither had a majority since there was a big Muslim minority, (minority that actually still persists in Southern Dobruja since they werent assimilated there unlike in the north) the thing is, as you said, after it was given to Romania, the region got really Romanified and a lot of Romanians migrated to the region, so it just kinda became fully Romanian after some time.
@thatstorm_spectre
@thatstorm_spectre Месяц назад
In what way was it seen as Bulgarian? Its true that Bulgarians had claims on it, but so did the Romanians
@ThatoneRomanianguy69
@ThatoneRomanianguy69 Месяц назад
Current state of dobrogea is good as it is
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor Месяц назад
@@mrjaman3752 it's not debatable. Northern Dobruja had a Turkic Muslim majority. It got Romanianized.
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor Месяц назад
@@thatstorm_spectre it was seen as a backwards region that was going to give tensions with Bulgaria by annexing it. Most of the Romanian political elite, including among them Brătianu I think, didn't want to trade Southern Bessarabia for Dobruja. But we had no choice because of ruzzian aggression. Later Dobruja became quickly ingrained in national thought and is today indispensable for Romania
@branilavvasic9727
@branilavvasic9727 Месяц назад
0:44 This moment was funny. Dobruja is literally the only region where they are not split with the river.
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
It's not meant to be splitting Dobruja. The idea is that River is the Danube, with the Bulgarians near Silistra on their side, and Romania on the other. But I see what ya mean. That idea does make it funny
@branilavvasic9727
@branilavvasic9727 Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Ok I see that you talk about Silistria latter. Makes sense now.
@cosmincasuta486
@cosmincasuta486 Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Silistra is not on Dobrogea!
@pasaniucdaniel4112
@pasaniucdaniel4112 Месяц назад
@@cosmincasuta486 Cadrilaterul este Dobrogea de Sud, acolo se afla si Silistria
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
It is, in the Southern part. I'll admit, I'm not from there so I could be wrong. But every map I've seen, every book and article I've read, all show Silistra as being in Dobruja
@borisganev2138
@borisganev2138 Месяц назад
As a Bulgarian, these were tough times. Thankfully, modern Bulgaria and Romania have way better relations and are even allies, I hope the best for Bulgaria and our Northern neighbors! 🇧🇬🤝🇷🇴
@cerasela4859
@cerasela4859 Месяц назад
🇷🇴❤️🇧🇬 Very well-said.
@csanadcsizmar9720
@csanadcsizmar9720 Месяц назад
Can i join cause I like both countries 🇭🇺🤝🇷🇴🇧🇬
@costin1866
@costin1866 Месяц назад
Love you my Bulgarian brother , from bucharest roumania !!
@cosmincasuta486
@cosmincasuta486 Месяц назад
Agreed!
@BringBackCyrillicBG
@BringBackCyrillicBG Месяц назад
@@csanadcsizmar9720 Always with Hungary! Hungary and Bulgaria have villain arcs, one of the most betrayed and unlucky countries
@julianivanov3058
@julianivanov3058 Месяц назад
The J is pronounced as a J. Nice video otherwise
@geckopro
@geckopro Месяц назад
​@@S1AR_DUS1 yes, but for example in Bulgarian it is pronounced "j" as in jam
@marialazarova7812
@marialazarova7812 Месяц назад
@@geckopro As a bulgarian, I can comform (sorry if my spelling is bad) that дж (dzh) is not like a iŭ sound
@marialazarova7812
@marialazarova7812 Месяц назад
In bulgarian, its Добруджа with in the phonetik (sorry about the speling) alphabet is dobrudzha
@bozydarboski9407
@bozydarboski9407 Месяц назад
Out of curiosity, shouldn't it be dobrudzha? Wikipedia cited 'j' as an alternative to 'y'
@bozydarboski9407
@bozydarboski9407 Месяц назад
​@@marialazarova7812oh, my thoughts exactly. It would seem that "dobruja" is just an anglicisation then
@arm7121
@arm7121 Месяц назад
The reason romania didn't want dobrogea initially was that it was a poor region with a very small population (a few thusands, mostly turks and bulgarians) while southern bessarabia was richer and well integrated. Still, Romania was forced to accept the trade. After that, romanians started to invest and bring people into the region, transforming it into what it is today.
@singoller3749
@singoller3749 Месяц назад
This should be known! The land is ethnically and historically Bulgarian! Nothing bad to wish to Romania tho, our best ally country!
@arm7121
@arm7121 Месяц назад
@singoller3749 Before the turkish annexation, Dobrogea was romanian. After annexation, the region was the theater of dozens of wars, foricing the locals to move away. When Romania got dobrogea, there were just a few turks, bulgarians and romanians left. It was 99% empty. Romania colonized and brought dobrogea at what is today. That's why you can't argue that dobrogea is anything other than Romania.
@justjustin5920
@justjustin5920 Месяц назад
@@singoller3749 its not, the land also had a romanian minority, also bulgarians were a majority only in the southern parts, in the north there were romanians and a minority of muslims, not bulgarians, the current division is good. Also Wallachia controlled Dobruja in the 14th century as well, and we had a population of romanians there
@singoller3749
@singoller3749 Месяц назад
@@arm7121 it wasnt romanian before that. Before that there was hardly any “romanians”
@singoller3749
@singoller3749 Месяц назад
@@justjustin5920 lets not talk about romanians themselves as an ethnic group.The land was Bulgarian before the ottoman rule.
@catalinmarius3985
@catalinmarius3985 Месяц назад
As far as I know (correct me if this is wrong) the St.Petersburg Protocol was Bulgaria giving Silestria and 3 km around it to Romania in exchange for neutrality in the First Balkan War. Bulgaria accepted but didn't went through with giving Silestria, so Romania used this as a justification to join the Second Balkan War and take all of Southern Dobruja.
@vasil.kamdzhalov
@vasil.kamdzhalov Месяц назад
Yes.
@BringBackCyrillicBG
@BringBackCyrillicBG Месяц назад
That is the romanian version made up to justify their betrayal. It is not official
@catalinmarius3985
@catalinmarius3985 Месяц назад
@@BringBackCyrillicBG Huh? the protocol is literally mentioned in the video, it's in there.
@cosmincasuta486
@cosmincasuta486 Месяц назад
@@BringBackCyrillicBG The Second Balkan War was started by the expationist Bulgaria against all their neighbours! Romania just finished it! Because Bulgaria did not respect the peace agreements from the First Balkan War!
@BringBackCyrillicBG
@BringBackCyrillicBG Месяц назад
@@catalinmarius3985 Even if thag is true by what means Romania is greedy for bulgarian lands after Bulgaria never harmed Romanians but actually saved rhe balkans from Turkey alongside Russia at first. Why would Romania seek to beteray their ally for a territories wirh no romanians in them even ?
@wildwilly356
@wildwilly356 Месяц назад
i saw the thumbnail and thought it was a history matters video
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Makes sense, he's a big inspiration of mine
@Tovalokodonc
@Tovalokodonc 8 дней назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb The guy that makes stuff up in regards to the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy half the time?
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb 3 дня назад
@@Tovalokodonc what do you mean?
@Tovalokodonc
@Tovalokodonc 2 дня назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb I have a video on my channel regarding this. His history content is just grossly misleading
@Mashkator
@Mashkator Месяц назад
Silistra mentioned!!! Very nice video btw.
@dobrujan
@dobrujan Месяц назад
hi from romanian dobruja, i visited both dobrujas, in both romania and bulgaria and they are pretty nice , i might even say that the nature in southern dobruja is more similar to mediteranean climate, than in northern parts.
@iulianneghina4870
@iulianneghina4870 Месяц назад
According to Wikipedia, Bulgarians were not the majority population in 1877 in Northern Dobruja. They represented max 13%; under Romanians (21%). Most of the population was Turks and Tatars (Muslims) at 51%.
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Could I see your source? If you are right, then thank you for correction
@iulianneghina4870
@iulianneghina4870 Месяц назад
​​​@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb source is Wikipedia. Turkish + Tatars 52% (Muslim population). Not even in the southern Dobrogea the Bulgarians represented the majority in 1877, and just before it was annexed by Romania (36 years later), the Bulgarian oficial census from 1910, placed Bulgarians at 47%.
@ClashofAction
@ClashofAction Месяц назад
Cap sir
@Kristiyan-nm8fl
@Kristiyan-nm8fl Месяц назад
BS some of my relatives are from there and they were not tatars. It was mostly bulgarians with turks and maybe some romanians
@iulianneghina4870
@iulianneghina4870 Месяц назад
@@Kristiyan-nm8fl I visited most of villages of Dobruja, never heard of Bulgarians; there are some vilages populated with Russians (Lipoveni) and in one of the communes the Turks are the majority. Just a few Bulgarian families left in the villages around Babadag, and they are not majority. You should check again your sources. I know very well Southern Dobruja too. For 15 years + the beaches of Krapets and Shabla, places like Balchik, Kaliakra, Silistra, are visted on yearly bases - I know very well those areas too, no Romanian are left there after the population exchange from 1940.
@omarawan4914
@omarawan4914 Месяц назад
Pretty interesting video nice work
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Thanks
@Donkeypapuas
@Donkeypapuas Месяц назад
It was a TURKISH/TATAR majority. On third pkace was Romanians. On forth, Bulgarians. The Cadrilater (South Dobrodja) was given to Romania in compensation for Macedonia, who was splited to Greece, Serbia snd Bulgaria and the Aromanians lost all their rights.
@CocoSon-we2rg
@CocoSon-we2rg Месяц назад
The only unjust people in the Balkans are the Aromanians.
@AGTaNGrA.
@AGTaNGrA. 22 дня назад
Bro when was it turkish and tatar majority ???? Finish ur sentences please. It was turkish majory when Romania was under ottoman slavery. By your logic,at this time whole Romania was turkish majority. Also Bulgaria,Serbia,Greece was turkish majority LOL wth logic is this ? U forgot that all turks were sent back to Turkey after the fall of the ottomans from each one of those countries ???? Theres no turkish ages ago,just some slav muslims left and its a very small minority. I can say that Turkey was a roman majority by your logic cuz Byzanthium was there before haha.
@Forlfir
@Forlfir День назад
​@@AGTaNGrA.Slavs are also not native to the area, it was Greek/Roman
@AGTaNGrA.
@AGTaNGrA. 15 часов назад
@@Forlfir THE ROMAN EMPIRE HAS NEVER CROSSED THE DUNABE RIVER,LEARN HISTORY FOR 4TH GRADE !
@josephporta7255
@josephporta7255 29 дней назад
In 1878, the majority population in Dobrogea were the Turks and Tatars and the province was an oriental one. After them, were the Romanians, and after them were the Bulgarians. All the reports from that period state this fact, even Bulgarian historians agree on this one (Ljubomir Miletic for example) and say that the Bulgarians in Dobrogea were recent arrivals as a result of the Russian-Ottoman wars. When russian armies retreated after a war in the Balkans, they were bringing along Bulgarians to populate Bugeac and other territories north of the Black Sea. The colonists that they were bringing were given certain privileges and when they were cut, many of them crossed the border back in the Ottoman territory, in Dobrogea. That's why most of the Bulgarians in Dobrogea were situated in the north of the province (Tulcea, Babadag) and not in the south, closer to Bulgaria. The entire Black Sea coast was populated with a vast majority of Turks. After 1878 and until 1913, the southern part of Dobrogea (Cadrilater/ Dobrogea Noua) was colonized with Bulgarians, and in 1913 it was kind of 50-50 Turks and Bulgarians, but the Turks were the majority. Add on that a very intense bulgarization policy that the Bulgarian authorities implemented. The Turks were happy when Romania took the region.
@chebzzzzzzzzzz
@chebzzzzzzzzzz Месяц назад
I can already see that you, my guy will blow up at some point. Just hold onto what you're doing and continue doing it. 👍❤️
@anthonyn.7379
@anthonyn.7379 Месяц назад
I never thought about this. Really loved the video. You got yourself a new subscriber!
@Seals165
@Seals165 13 дней назад
Great video felt really authentic
@birbolea8720
@birbolea8720 Месяц назад
Pretty clean and simple explanation, you earned a new sub
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Месяц назад
James Bizzonet is the one running this channel.
@thatsleepybirb
@thatsleepybirb Месяц назад
kelly moneymaker is a close second
@thatstorm_spectre
@thatstorm_spectre Месяц назад
A very good overview of the recent history of this region in the Balkans. Cheers to you my friend! 🍻
@Aerumora
@Aerumora Месяц назад
Very well explained! As a romanian I can say you covered the modern history of the region in a very organised sense, reminded me of Oversimplified! Good job!
@trunksfuture6583
@trunksfuture6583 Месяц назад
as a half bulgarian who while commenting haven't watch this vid i guess that the reason is that under ottoman empire it was with a big bulgarian people ther. in the russo turkish war romania got indepandanve and russia offerd them this land in exchange for basserabia. after bulgaria got indepandance they claimed the land. in ww2 both countries were pro german and right wing, bulgaria wanted this land and germany made romania sign a treaty of craiova if i'm not wrong. they moved the bulgarians in northen dobruja to south and romanian in southern dobruja to the north and it stayed like that, hope i'm right EDIT: damn i was preaty much right
@That1fellaAU
@That1fellaAU Месяц назад
I see you going far brother, sub number 31 here, keep it up!
@RealTwisted-
@RealTwisted- Месяц назад
This man deserves more subscribers
@mdr-1177
@mdr-1177 Месяц назад
great video!
@da6ko1
@da6ko1 Месяц назад
Great video keep it up lil bro
@wohazas4317
@wohazas4317 Месяц назад
Nice to be the 100th sub for this channel
@MrScruffels
@MrScruffels Месяц назад
Good video keep making these
@velocassini
@velocassini Месяц назад
Congrats from your first commenter bro! Your channel is growing very fast!!
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Thank you yet again :> I remember you
@WrinkledPaper674
@WrinkledPaper674 Месяц назад
Very nice video, keep it going
@sew_243
@sew_243 Месяц назад
great video! keep it up, new sub
@milketodorova6114
@milketodorova6114 Месяц назад
1:24"In the modern sence at least" That's a very important destinction
@bulgariagaming2408
@bulgariagaming2408 Месяц назад
Really well put video, Had some stuff even I as a S. Dobrujan didn't know
@mclurr3197
@mclurr3197 Месяц назад
Interesting video dude. You could show some ethnic composition charts when taking about population exchanges and to give an overview.
@Communist_Ball_RO_21
@Communist_Ball_RO_21 Месяц назад
I finally know why is the region that I live in is spilt. Thanks for information!
@Vectorghoul423
@Vectorghoul423 Месяц назад
i was born in dobrogea and my father's families all were born in dobrogea and even we had some properties in Bulgaria once the Bulgarians wanted to have all of the lands of Romanians they gave it for money to people that own this lands so they could use them and make some stuff that would benefit Bulgaria so my father's family got tones of money given and ever sense we live in an apartment in dobrogea and life is good as we didn't need them as we didn't want to move to Bulgaria
@adeniz41
@adeniz41 Месяц назад
Upon searching for my family tree, I realized that my great grandparents were from this region, Dobruja. They then migrated to Turkey
@Superr1101
@Superr1101 Месяц назад
You did this all on Flipaclip. Pretty gooe!
@iamstephan99
@iamstephan99 Месяц назад
Dobrogea in 1877 didn't have a bulgarian majority. There lived tatars, turks, bulgarians, romanians, aromanians, greeks, so on.
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
I know now... dozens of people have told me so... I made a correction in the comments and description
@ThePanEthiopian
@ThePanEthiopian Месяц назад
Now make a video why banat is divided
@BringBackCyrillicBG
@BringBackCyrillicBG Месяц назад
Bro you really like Bulgaria, based Ethiopian
@wuzzle22
@wuzzle22 Месяц назад
Another note, you shouldn't show Yugoslavia or occupied Austria as having any part of the Warsaw pact, allied and soviet troops left Austria in 1955 on the condition that it be a perpetually neutral country, and Yugoslavia was a founding member of the non-aligned movement in 1948
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Thank you for the correction there
@wuzzle22
@wuzzle22 Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb No problem! Also while researching this, I found that Romania and Albania should be using the same colour as Yugoslavia, Austria and East Germany to denote that they're not fully in the Warsaw Pact (Turns out that their relationships with the Pact were a bit complex)
@alexbulza50
@alexbulza50 Месяц назад
They toked what was ours and give what wasn't.
@Brother_Atos
@Brother_Atos 12 дней назад
As a romanian can I ask for "why is Bucovina split" next?
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb 11 дней назад
Maybe some day. I have the next few videos already planned out
@HazeTheGoober
@HazeTheGoober Месяц назад
I am slamming the underrated button so flipping hard right now. I love this
@Amgalan549
@Amgalan549 Месяц назад
Thank you! I always thought why Southern Dobrudzha, but it turns out the northern part is in Romania
@user-ly8rw3gn3p
@user-ly8rw3gn3p Месяц назад
nice video and its pretty accurate
@PopsPopPop
@PopsPopPop Месяц назад
why do you have so little subs?? this is awesome sauce
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
I actually have quite a bit now lol. I had like 25 yesterday And thank you :>
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor Месяц назад
Nice video. It's not "according to one source", Romanians really didn't want Northern Dobruja because it was seen as Bulgarian territory, though that it had a Bulgarian majority couldn't be further from truth as in 1878 it had 10% Bulgarians and 20% Romanians (rest Turks, Tatars and others). Also L for calling Aromanians and Megleno-Romanians "stuff that doesn't matter to us at the moment"
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Well I only saw one source saying that, so didn't want to act like I had many. Thank you for the correction. And I wasn't saying the people didn't matter. Just they weren't what the video was about, so didn't matter to much to it. I try to keep the videos short and on topic
@yanjnakarav2445
@yanjnakarav2445 Месяц назад
According to ottoman sources in 1864 the Danube vilayet had 0.92% vlachs. The Danube vilayet includes (Sanjak of Nis,Sanjak of Tulcea,Sanjak of Varna,Sanjak of Ruse,Sanjak of Tărnovo,Sanjak of Vidin,Sanjak of Sofia) The only sources which shows that there were romanians in Dobrugea are the romanians ones and only after 1877 ;) According to Ottomans the Demographics Groups are as follow Bulgarians (56.22%) Muslims (40.31%) Vlachs (0.92%) Armenians (0.86%) Greeks (0.60%) Jews (0.44%) Christian Romani (0.44%) Muslim Romani (0.20%)
@dubl33_27
@dubl33_27 Месяц назад
@@yanjnakarav2445 k
@3aaa21
@3aaa21 Месяц назад
@@yanjnakarav2445 Danube vilayet was not only dobrogea, dobrogea was Turkish before first balkan war
@yanjnakarav2445
@yanjnakarav2445 Месяц назад
@@3aaa21 The Ottoman censuses and archives don't agree with you bud ...I would give you this one because its easier to find for earlier ones you need to go to ottoman archieves and etc Tulca Sanjak : Bulgar Millet 12,961 (22%) Ermeni Millet 5,720 (10%) Rum Millet 2,215 (4%) Islam Millet 38,479 (65%) Ruscuk(Ruse) Sanjak Bulgar Millet 85,268 (38%) Islam Millet 138,017 (61%) Varna Sanjak 9,553 (18%) Islam Millet 38,230 (74%) In 1860s and 1870s the turkish nationality didnt exsist yet so the ottoman administration put all muslims as one Not to mention that if we rewind 20y or even just 10years earlier 90% of the population would be bulgarian but because of the Caucasian War 1817 - 21 May 1864 and later on Crimean war hundreds of thousands of muslims cherkez,caucasion and few thousands tatars came in Dobrugea on the other side hundreds of thousands of bulgarians were moved in Russia. There was treaty and documentation which you can check if you like and understand Russian or but i doubt you understand Ottoman :)
@x1h122
@x1h122 Месяц назад
really good videos, underrated creator
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Thank you very much
@The_whales
@The_whales Месяц назад
Good video, now my next question is why didn’t the ussr stop Albania from leaving the Warsaw pact?
@MausOfTheHouse
@MausOfTheHouse Месяц назад
How difficult would it've been to look up the pronounciation of the region you're making a video of
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Not very hard. I just assumed when I shouldn't've. I admit that
@GarbageAtGamesOk
@GarbageAtGamesOk Месяц назад
I like that the video is just like history matters
@nairpic7360
@nairpic7360 Месяц назад
Bulgaria promised Silistra to Romania in exchange to its neutrality in the Balkan wars, but then refused to abide by the agreement. It wasn't Romania going to the big powers to obtain their agreement to annex the region, but rather Bulgaria not keeping their word, which prompted Romania to attack it in the 3rd Balkan war and seize the whole southern part of the region, which they renamed to "Cadrilater".
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Месяц назад
Silestria? You mean Silistra?
@nairpic7360
@nairpic7360 Месяц назад
@@HeroManNick132 Yes, thanks for pointing out my typo.
@beetrootsoup3130
@beetrootsoup3130 Месяц назад
Good video but one small thing, You dont need to use j to indicate a "y" sound when writing in Turkish since we don't use j to mean y
@AnDrEi_aLeXaNdRu
@AnDrEi_aLeXaNdRu Месяц назад
Nice video bro. Btw i live in the North of Dobruja and we here in Romania call IT Dobrogea
@health019
@health019 Месяц назад
Northern dobrujda is Bulgarianb
@CocoSon-we2rg
@CocoSon-we2rg Месяц назад
@@health019 nationalist dreams.
@Microwave_Gaming2502
@Microwave_Gaming2502 Месяц назад
the thing that we were most mad at for dobruja is when South dobruja was taken from us during the balcan War and First World War
@albapatriotproductions1198
@albapatriotproductions1198 Месяц назад
Cool video, but there are mistakes, the north part of Dobruja didn't have a bulgarian majority in 1878
@vasil.kamdzhalov
@vasil.kamdzhalov Месяц назад
It kinda did, he explained it politely and it doesnt change what we have today. Romanization, if I may call it like that, was a thing but no one is mad about it right now. Population was bulgarian but wasnt that big as in other regions in the Balkans. It was very depopulated after a couple of rebellions in Ottoman times and even more bulgarians moved into Bolgrad and modern Ukraine. Russia liked this solution because it got more people to eventually convert to russian culture if possible.
@albapatriotproductions1198
@albapatriotproductions1198 Месяц назад
@@vasil.kamdzhalov well, partially you are right, but in north dobruja, as well as in south, there was a big turkish community, and also tatar in the north
@milenpetev811
@milenpetev811 Месяц назад
@@albapatriotproductions1198 Despite the wars between Turkey and Russia, there was an agreement between them to exchange the population. Crimean Tatars and Muslims against Christian Bulgarians. For this reason, there is now a compact Muslim population in eastern Bulgaria, and many Bulgarians in southern Ukraine.
@albapatriotproductions1198
@albapatriotproductions1198 Месяц назад
@@milenpetev811 exactly
@AntoniuDraculea
@AntoniuDraculea Месяц назад
It is not that Romania did not want Dobruja. It did and it would have taken it all in 1878 (as it had been promissed initially) but Romania could not accept the annezation of S Bessarabia by Russia. It was an unacceptable precedent. Dobruja had been latin (daco-roman = proto-romanian) long before the first slav, bulgar turk or ottoman turk ever showed up and before being annexed by the ottomans it had been part of Wallachia (Romania) for over a third of a century. Edit: whenever I reply to the bulgarian who replied to my comment YTdeletes it so I will post it as an edit. We are not talking about the Danube province of the Ottoman Empire, which included northern Dobruja, southern Dobruja and all of nothern Bulgaria. Northern Dobruja was 21% romanian 13% bulgarian. So it was a more romanian province than bulgarian Source: K. Karpat, : Correspondance Politique des Consuls. Turguie (Tulqa). 1 (1878) 280-82 (Turkish author)
@yanjnakarav2445
@yanjnakarav2445 Месяц назад
You have good propaganda in Romania but it can't beat the facts ;) According to Ottomans in 1864 the Demographics of Danube vilayet are as follow Bulgarians (56.22%) Muslims (40.31%) Vlachs (0.92%) Armenians (0.86%) Greeks (0.60%) Jews (0.44%) Christian Romani (0.44%) Muslim Romani (0.20%) Thats includes the following regions Sanjak of Tulcea Sanjak of Varna Sanjak of Ruse Sanjak of Tărnovo Sanjak of Vidin Sanjak of Sofia Sanjak of Niš
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
I'm not deleting your reply. RU-vid is I only delete comments when they spout dangerous ideas or harass people/groups
@AntoniuDraculea
@AntoniuDraculea Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb I edited the comment then if you say its not you. Either way, from now on please be more careful with sources. The "dobruja was mostly bulgarian" part unjustifiably made us romanians look bad and caused a lot of bulgarian n@tionalists here to attack us unjustifiably. Thanks.
@iulianneghina4870
@iulianneghina4870 Месяц назад
​​@@yanjnakarav2445 here we are talking about Dobruja only, not all of Northern Bulgaria. And for Northern Dobruja, Bulgarians were only 13% and those mainly from a recent migration early 19 century (most of them went to Basarabia invited there by the Russian Empire). Not to mention that in Southern Dobruja, that started to be part of Bulgarian Principality in 1878, Bulgarians were still a minority, and they remained in minority until 1910, the official Bulgarian census placed them at 47%.
@su1t0n11
@su1t0n11 Месяц назад
​@yanjnakarav2445 that includes the following regions: shows all of Bulgaria. 😂
@floricacristina5899
@floricacristina5899 Месяц назад
Arată adevărul nu numai despre Dobrogea, dar și restul Bulgariei și majoritatea limbi vorbite la 1912
@yordangrigorov6
@yordangrigorov6 27 дней назад
Craiova treaty is very important because it resolves one and for all every territorial, political and ethnic disputes between our countries, more than 80 years we are friends and allies, maybe one day West Balkans and the Russian countries will find the formula for peace, like us.
@worldplayer3256
@worldplayer3256 Месяц назад
well done
@wuzzle22
@wuzzle22 Месяц назад
Hi, I just wanna correct something rq It's pronounced da-BRU-jer, not da-BROO-ya Also, look for an image editing program that lets you do layers, it helps a tonne with those white dots you get where colours meet when you use the fill tool
@BabaSatisfying-tj8ht
@BabaSatisfying-tj8ht Месяц назад
The “j” in Dobruja is pronounced like the “j” in the French name “Jean”
@BabaSatisfying-tj8ht
@BabaSatisfying-tj8ht Месяц назад
Because that’s what sound “j” makes in Romanian. People forget Romanian isn’t a slavic language and doesn’t use the j like that.
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Ok, thank you for that correction :> I'm used to saying da-BROO-ya. But in the future I'll do my best to say da-bru-jer
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor Месяц назад
I seriously doubt the region has a standard English name and pronunciation. This spelling is only the majority today because it is used by Wikipedia. Older English sources used Dobrudja. It really doesn't matter
@wuzzle22
@wuzzle22 Месяц назад
@@_utahraptor I verified the pronunciation of it before I made that comment. Also, I never mentioned the spelling so why are you bringing that up?
@FastTquick
@FastTquick Месяц назад
Watching this video gives off a lot of History Matters vibes.
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
He's my main inspiration, so that makes sense. I hope my style is still unique enough tho to not be seen as copying
@Gaming_TV2
@Gaming_TV2 Месяц назад
cool vid
@iulianneghina4870
@iulianneghina4870 Месяц назад
The map shown at the start of the video with the "Provinces of Balkans" is not consistent, Transylvania is too large (Maramureș, Crișana and Banat included), also Banat should be spit in 3 (RO SRB HU) and not part of Voïvodina (just an administrative region not a historical province) - Hints for possible new videos.
@in90transit
@in90transit Месяц назад
History definitely matters
@LeonPeoBitola
@LeonPeoBitola Месяц назад
Thanks man, you liked my country Macedonia and you say the name real of my country Macedonia 🇲🇰❤️❤️❤️
@specularverzide9972
@specularverzide9972 Месяц назад
Because russian greed in 1878.
@JJabrFR
@JJabrFR Месяц назад
for a small youtuber you are really good
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Thank you :>
@abcMW1989
@abcMW1989 23 дня назад
It's, actually, Dobrudža, or Dobruja (with j. as in jam). Or, Dobrogea (in Romanian). Regardless of the language, the main stress for Dobruja is always on the first syllable.
@nedqlkokara6735
@nedqlkokara6735 Месяц назад
by the way, Thrace is divided between Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece, you can make a video about it as well. In principle, Thrace has a Bulgarian population, but it is no longer or is no longer considered Bulgarian
@Stefan-ym9yl
@Stefan-ym9yl Месяц назад
yes but North Dobruja is romanian like Transilvania, that 2 regions was invaded by romans in Dacia and made us latin
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Месяц назад
@@Stefan-ym9yl To this day Transilvania has plenty of Hungarians. And Banat is also Bulgarian. Rightfully Romanian is North Bukovina and Bessarabia.
@Stefan-ym9yl
@Stefan-ym9yl Месяц назад
@@HeroManNick132 History knowledge almost 0 Transilvania : one million hungarians 4 million romanians, North Dobruja is romanian, but probably you are bulgarian 😂 you change your ancestors every week...
@wouldnt_you_like_to_know
@wouldnt_you_like_to_know Месяц назад
No region/land is written in stone. These are just names. What makes the land is the people.
@EmilioVargas-ye3er
@EmilioVargas-ye3er Месяц назад
0:04 im more curious about that region that covers all of macedonia, and has a part of greece and bulgaria
@rogatogovedo
@rogatogovedo Месяц назад
In Bulgarian Dobruja means Good {farm-able) land
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
I didn't know that. That's neat!
@bigger_mibber6029
@bigger_mibber6029 Месяц назад
От де го искара това?
@mingus2854
@mingus2854 Месяц назад
I am from the port city of Constanta in Northen Dobruja and I liked the video a lot! Nice work!
@Luzeru362
@Luzeru362 Месяц назад
Bulgaria wasnt looseing the seacond balkan war when romania joined the war. It was because of romania joining the war and marching into bulgaria unoposed wich conviced the ottomans to also join leading to bulgaria looseing the war
@AGTaNGrA.
@AGTaNGrA. 22 дня назад
Yes Bulgaria got sandwiched between too many enemies,it was actually holding on vs Serbia,Turkey,Greece and Montenegro pretty good,but got literally backstabbed by Romania entering from the north. Untill this point Romania was actually acting very friendly to Bulgaria so the backstab was full. Also Romania was much weaker than Bulgaria,just take a look at WW2 and what did the romanians do (basically nothing at all) But its the fact that Bulgaria couldnt split its army into so many pieaces to fight a 5-way war that lost that region from Bulgaria.
@alejandrocivitanovae8320
@alejandrocivitanovae8320 Месяц назад
the name of Dobroja comes from "dobro" means good and "ja" signifys I or in other words "I´m good"
@watchcraft9428
@watchcraft9428 Месяц назад
where is the map of all the regions from?
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
It's a map I made. It's not entirely accurate. Mainly it was to get across the basic idea of how the regions look
@niceguy3823
@niceguy3823 Месяц назад
I love Romania, I‘m happy our neighbor is becoming a normal country again, pray for us brothers, because we need miracle to catch up with you!🇧🇬❤️🇷🇴
@Buri111Official
@Buri111Official Месяц назад
look at czech and poland, we have split a city name Těšín. now its Český Těšín a Polský těšín/Czeski Cieszyn i polski Cieszyn
@theMOCmaster
@theMOCmaster Месяц назад
Romanian banat not on your map of regions in the Balkans, it’s another interesting split one, with ethnicities from Germans to Lutheran Slovaks and Catholic Bulgarians
@flawyerlawyertv7454
@flawyerlawyertv7454 Месяц назад
👍
@_Kegasus
@_Kegasus Месяц назад
Great video!
@Un_pelican_pe_varf_de_munte
@Un_pelican_pe_varf_de_munte Месяц назад
Banat is also another region split by Romania and Serbia.
@cerasela4859
@cerasela4859 Месяц назад
and a very little part by Hungary
@Pelasgo-Thracians
@Pelasgo-Thracians 29 дней назад
Business was done only with Romanian territories!
@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLES
@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLES Месяц назад
And no civilians were harmed
@madmasseur6422
@madmasseur6422 Месяц назад
What in the unholy hell is that first map?? Where's the distinction between Kvarner and Dalmatia, between East and West Herzegovina, between Slavonia, Baranja and Croatia proper, between Banat and Transylvania between Kosovo anD Metohia?...
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
I wanted to make the map simple enough for people to understand the very basic of larger regions. Didn't want or need to make it very complicated. Like, if you were talking about America and showed a region map of America, would you show East, West and Middle Tennessee? Probaly not. You'd just lumo the three regions into just Tennessee. I do understand tho those very basic regions aren't fully correct. Thank you for commenting
@madmasseur6422
@madmasseur6422 Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb It's ok, dw. I made my comment to make it more comedic, you did a decent job, tho some regions should be more distinct, specifically the dalmatian and montenegrin ones. Dobruja itself was ok tho, grrat video 👍
@gicady
@gicady Месяц назад
As a Dobrogea resident I think the ethnic tatar, russian (from the danube delta) and aromanian communities also play an important role in this regions history, and also, the fact that in ancient history it belonged to the roman province of Moesia, and not Dacia. But still, interesting video.
@Kerguelen.Mapping
@Kerguelen.Mapping Месяц назад
Can you do a video about sandžak
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Maybe I can after my next 2 videos. What exactly would you like me to make the video about? Like a certain thing about the region, or a part of its history etc?
@Kerguelen.Mapping
@Kerguelen.Mapping Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb idk Random
@Kerguelen.Mapping
@Kerguelen.Mapping Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb I know nothing about the region except its Muslim and used to be ottoman until 1st Balkan war
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Ok, well I'll do some looking into Sandžak's history, and possibly make a video about it after the next 2. I dont know very much either about it Thanks for the suggestion btw
@McGeographyUser154
@McGeographyUser154 13 дней назад
da sub button glowed when he said subscribe
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb 11 дней назад
Thank you for commenting. But I identify as she/her
@marcboss
@marcboss Месяц назад
The only reason Romania invaded in the second Balkan War is because Bulgaria signed a treaty to give up the territory and didn't follow up with the promise.
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
Could I see your source?
@marcboss
@marcboss Месяц назад
@@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Maybe I'm confusing it with Silistra, but if I find the article I will reply again.
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor Месяц назад
​@@marcbossyes it was Silistra and they did give it up. Romania gained Silistra two months before the rest of Southern Dobruja
@albapatriotproductions1198
@albapatriotproductions1198 Месяц назад
I'd say the reason Romania invaded Bulgaria in 1913 was so it could secure its borders, Romanian leaders were feeling threatened by bulgarian expansionism in the south and feared that if Bulgaria defeated Serbia and Greece, Romania would be next, so Romania protected its borders by invading Bulgaria when it was the least expected.
@quan-uo5ws
@quan-uo5ws Месяц назад
Romania invaded because they wanted to colonise territorry that was not theirs, simple as that.
@aloofwashere
@aloofwashere Месяц назад
At the time southern bessarabia was more advanced than dobruja
@shockerx95
@shockerx95 Месяц назад
every summer romanians reclaim that part of dobruja, because they go there as tourists, so much so that they outnumber the locals...
@arsenalcho1886
@arsenalcho1886 Месяц назад
I am born in Dobrudja. Stalin gave the northern part - Kustendja (now Constanz) there were 0 Romanians and even Romania did not want it as they did not have any people there .
@CocoSon-we2rg
@CocoSon-we2rg Месяц назад
You have no idea. Stalin had no business, it is about Tsar Alexander II.
@arsenalcho1886
@arsenalcho1886 Месяц назад
@@CocoSon-we2rg Dobrudja is Bulgarian both North and South and it never had romanian population , as i said the romanian did not want it initially, it was gifted to them.
@Gelu345
@Gelu345 Месяц назад
In your dreams!😂😂😂😂
@Ne0LiT
@Ne0LiT 12 дней назад
This is actually hilarious, first sound thought went through "But those lands are not filled with out people we shouldn't take them" and after they got forced to accept the land, greed set in "YESSS!!!NOW GIVE US THE REST OF IT", these mf
@Eforearn
@Eforearn Месяц назад
Make a video about why Macedonia is split
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Месяц назад
Защото сте българи.
@yordangrigorov6
@yordangrigorov6 27 дней назад
Macedonia is split between Greece, Bulgaria and the Serbian puppet state of North Macedonia after 60 years of wars Dobrudja is finally split peacefully and both countries are respecting each other today 😂 Scenario is very different
@andreiangelian5189
@andreiangelian5189 Месяц назад
Great videp but bulgarians were never a majority in northern dobrogea
@andreiangelian5189
@andreiangelian5189 Месяц назад
It is quite bulgarian favorable though
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Месяц назад
@@andreiangelian5189 During 1878 was.
@andreiangelian5189
@andreiangelian5189 Месяц назад
@@HeroManNick132 no they were not
@andreiangelian5189
@andreiangelian5189 Месяц назад
@@HeroManNick132 bulgarians were 13%, check wikipedia
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Месяц назад
@@andreiangelian5189 Are you a Serboman that has land like almost like the UK still salty?
@Otto1Bismarck
@Otto1Bismarck Месяц назад
everybody knows that silistra is rightfully turkish
@synixosu
@synixosu Месяц назад
History matters alt
@mihaianca34
@mihaianca34 Месяц назад
next comes why is bucovina split? 😅
@vladimirputina7516
@vladimirputina7516 Месяц назад
the j in dobruja is pronounced like a g not an i
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb
@HistoryWithEm43-zu9wb Месяц назад
I know now. Several people have pointed that out
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