Why is Dutch from the Netherlands but Deutsch from Germany? 

Same here but counterwise

When I drink 3+ beers I can speak Dutch. Or so I thought. Only later I found out I’m a walking joke

@@mrfrano100 hahaha it's the same for me if i drink 3+ beers i think i can speak German. Aber unsere Sprachen sind ähnlich!(when we are drunk enough)

You might need to get shitfaced drunk first to get all that "-je" stuff down pat.

@@mrfrano100 According to my Dutch teacher when i was at school 32 years ago whenever i was sober i did not speak Dutch and whenever i was drunk i did not speak Dutch even more. But that's because he and i had a huge disagreement on which form of Dutch is Dutch and which not. He could only win that disagreement on paper but i still do in reallity. Since then more and more dialects he did not call Dutch are now official Dutch langauges and what he has been teaching is still a made up version that everybody must learn but nobody except for Dutch teachers actaully speak. And my version is today seen as that of the region that had the least changes in the past 1000 years so i speak Dutch these days and Dutch teachers teach science fiction!!. Therefor with 3 beers your Dutch is no worse than that of my teacher or mine depending on your point of view and i give a 10 out of 10 for even trying and a bonus point if done drunk.

I actually did ask my mom but she didn’t know either lol

Exactly

I've been thinking about this one for a while lol. Love this channel =)

Dutch=Duutsch=Deutsch=Doitsch=... They all mean the same thing - german. With the understanding that german means continental west germanic (yea I dont know about friesians). The people of the Nederlands are nederlanders.

My question: Can someone please tell me, what is the background music starting around 4:35 ?

Makes since given how little Icelandic has changes compared to other germanic languages

Is the german word 'Volk' a possible decendent word?

For those who are interested, I think the pronunciation would be fairly similar to the Old-English word Þeod.

@@alLEDP "Deutsch" means "völkisch".

@@alLEDP no. Maybe essentially the same meaning, but different origin. Volk (and its English cognate "folk") derives from the same PIE root as "voll" (English "full", also a cognate) and "viele" ("many" in English, which doesn't appear to be a cognate)

LOL😆😅😂🤣

Lol, teaching yourself to read a foreign language just out of pure laziness, I love it

This is very funny. I am Dutch and thought "Dutch" meant German so i would never select it. And that's why i always played the games in English 😂.

How could a German not know that Deutsch is Deutsch? Unless you meant that you are of Deutsch extraction.

​@@jackiebuttnor8410he didn't know that German means deutsch

But more accurately you're Pennsylvania "Deutsche," or German. My American family was really Dutch--real Dutch. They came from Amsterdam and Haarlem in the Netherlands.

@@russbear31 American brainwashing because of the German role in WW1 ans WW2 made her forget all these.

Your father is lucky he went to the right parts of Germany. PA Dutch is very similar to Palatinate German, in Palatinate the locals should understand him, except perhaps for occasional Anglicisms and some expressions that PA Dutch kept but sound antiquated in modern "Pfälzisch" / Palatinate German. In north or east Germany, people would struggle much more understanding PA Dutch.

Were they Amish / Mennonite or did they leave?

@@nickmoser7785 They were German Reform. Not every PA Dutch is Amish or Mennonite. Some came as tradesmen. My family came in the late 1700's and settled in Berks County.

Dankjewel , Ich liebe den Deutsche auch .

@@willvangaal8412 Indoensyians: Meneer please hold our BAJIGUR 🥃

i let the 88

mag ik nou mn fiets terug?

@@TheSuperappelflap Hij blijft leuk

thanks ! didn't know about the old spanish one

and that is where the word "deutsch" originates from

Teutonic sounds also related to the same root.

@@eldariskenderfranke4284 Um that's misleading. It's rather, that's derived of the word the Germans had for themselves. Including the original Longobards that settled in northern italy.

"Þeudiskaz", "Þeudi" reminds me of "Ludzie/Люди" - "the people".

Welcome!

Interesting. Would you care to explain where that Irish in you came from?

@@melvinjansen2338 Lots of mating between white men and black women in the slavery era for one.

Isn’t the internet fabulous?

@@mikespearwood3914 Oh because there were so many Irish serfs? I heard they were of really low class back then no? So they mingled with blacks? I know its not cool and all but you gotta love these stories.

I live about 5 mins from the Nederlands Border and i can unterstand most of you too

Languages aren't a singular block, at least until modern education / media with the standardisation of languages. Language was closer tied to region than modern nation state, the dialect spoken by the Upper / Ruling Class typically got designated the proper language and everything else a dialect. The dialects across a border in modern times can still be mutually intelligible.

@@explosivo666 Equally often the proper language was made artificially by intelectuals writing in a way where everyone in their nation would understand them.

Try speaking to someone who speaks Swiss German; they will understand you, but you won't understand them. My German pronunciation is [I've been told] pretty good for an English speaker, but while I couldn't understand a word of what a Schwabisch speaker said, I was understood by them.

@@JMM33RanMA The alemans also know the standart language. Its like scots understand you fully, you understand them partially. Because they know standart english and you dont know scots.

It's likely due to tribalism, there are various ways to specify what group are in front of that person (typically before nations it was city-states, then before that it would've been skin color (it still is used unfortunately with some people), ie: ”hello [other(s)]")

No its not so.

might also mean people/descendants of Tuisto it's pretty close if you speak it and well in the dialectical range even if we don't assume an ancient typo

Yeah, it normally translates to either "the people" or "the true people". It's just a way to differentiate your group from everyone else.

There's also the opposite reaction: there are those other people whose languages we can't understand. The Anglosaxons who conquered Britain in the 5th century called the Celtic people Welshmen and their country Wales. Welsh and Wales are derived from the Germanic word Walhaz which means foreigner. This is also how Wallonia got its name, that name was given to the Latin/French speaking population of modern day Wallonia by the Germanic tribes living in the Netherlands and Germany.

It's a linguistic continuum.

Isn't Dutch actually a form of Plattdeutsch, but with a flag?

Exactly. This is known across all of northern Germany.

This saying is used everywhere in the Netherlands, not just in the south.

@@mikaelbohman6694 No, it isn't. Plattdeutsch is a form of Saxonian while Dutch is based on Franconian dialects.

why?

@@Allstar67676 Proprably because Deutsch sound more like Dutch than German.

@@brokkrep nor only that if they comes from the nort and or west from Germany than they would speak more a german trying to speak dutch dialect and it could also just be bc our countries are so similar in language and culture and dutch is pretty much german with an dialect german is dutch with an dialect...

Oh and btw he said in the beginning 2 different people but we have the same blood as the germans

@@Allstar67676 That was actually explained in the video..

When Danish comes to my ears it sounds a lot like Low German dialects in the first seconds. Then I try to understand what people say, understand almost nothing and it becomes clear I'm listening to Danish instead. I am from Bavaria by the way. You are right that Swedish and Norwegian (Bokmål) have a more distinct North Germanic feeling than Danish which sounds much more mumbled to German ears. I also noticed that Danish speakers when speaking German appear to have much less accent than speakers of other Germanic languages. So Danish really can sound similar to German. Nevertheless I wouldn't be able to pronounce: Rødgrød med fløde. 😅

@Andreas Juul Mikkelsen. I watch Scotland History Tours channel and often comment along the lines of Hilbert's Geordie video, that southern Scots are more Angles than folk in Yorkshire, as a bit of a wind up to those who seem to hate anything south of the border. I always liked Scotland and my childhood hero from literature was Alan Breck Stewart. Another viewer, who also watches similar channels to me recently referred to me as the King of Danelaw in a reply elsewhere. I had recommended this channel to him for Viking content. Tell those Scots confused about where you are from that if it were not for the Danes they would be Alba and not Scotland. A recent video for Burns Night in Scots reminded me of words "nächtliche Schatten" from a German song, though as I commented, this was not what Tam in the poem did when he saw witches, but shadows in the night.

@@dirkbimini5963 Agree :-) and yes. Rødgrød med Fløde is hard. My Scottish partner still haven’t mastered “Røget ål” when ordering smoked eel for lunch. Another tung twister.

That explains why my American friends always make dumb Danish jokes despite me being from the Netherlands.

@@dirkbimini5963 I speak French Canadian online in video games and get asked if I’m Swedish sometimes.

*Deutsch(en) Kultur

@@koloblicin Duly noted...and corrected!...

The Amish of Pennsylvania are descendants of the Deutsche German immigrants who came to America in the 1800's.

@@koloblicin not sure one needs to declense a German word when using it in an English text. Nominative ("deutsche Kultur") should be fine in this context. After all, the genitive of "Jesus Christus" being "Jesu Christi" aside, we don't declense Latin nouns in German either.

@@arthur_p_dent yes not necessary but he originally had it "Deutsch(er) Kultur", wich is wrong.

And in the Netherlands the Brabantian and Flemish dialects got big influence on standard Dutch. That is why the 'official' languages grew apart.

Even into the 18th century Dutch plays were performed in Hamburg without needing translation. During the 16/17th century about a quarter to a third of the sailors were from 'Germany' and from the court cases it's often clear they did not need translators, which were present when f.e. French or High German speakers were on trial. Interestingly enough, during the Hanze times, Dutch and Low German were even mutually intelligible with Swedish. It isn't until the 16th century when evidence starts showing up that the languages are no longer mutually intelligible enough to communicate without translation.

@@dutchman7623 Mostly Brabantian, real Flemish is very different

@@sebe2255 Yep, West Flemish is a... different. 😄

I mean, it’s still quite similar. I’m from Hannover in Germany and we speak standard German / Hochdeutsch with a little bit of low German depending on ancestry. I don’t usually have problems understanding written Dutch. There a few words that are drastically different to German but most are just written a bit different. The bigger problem is understanding spoken Dutch since the consonant’s aren’t as hard and it overall just sounds like mumbling to Germans. Because of this it is a famous joke in Germany that Dutch is drunk german.

In the Scandinavian languages, the word for German is 'Tysk', ch in German often becomes k in Scandinavian and y is pronounced as ü.

@@MrGunnar69 Well y is also pronounced as ü in German. Wether that or i or j (which is pronounced like y in German).

But Portuguese is a Romance language whereas Dutch is Germanic.

These are not Scandinavian languages, they're Germanic

He always has a plan

@@andrade9172 And always wants some godam faith.

Like Dutch van der Linde in Red Dead Redemption... it sounds firm, strong, to me.

It's a bloody cooking pot🙄

@@telebubba5527 and you have no taste, we get it.

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I'm Northern Dutch and am really happy with my German neighbors

I am Dutch and I live in Deutschland. Love that country!

When you investigate.....you will see The Netherlands is still a German provence. Never been else since 1940. So....The Netherlands isn't a country at all.

@@rdh67dh please show me the investigation.

Eben, Sicherlich! Wir sind gute Nachbarn von ein ander..👍🏻

To call lower franconian Dutch is the same as calling seaweed human. Yes, they share the same evolutionary root and some DNA, but that is it.

And Aber to maar 😂

@@mcyella0313 Aha dankje, ich schnap das!

@@patrick-bu3eq What the fuck are you talking about Patrick

Ich könnte alles gut verstehen, es ist unglaublich wie ähnliche Deutsch und Niederländisch sind. Edit: Freundliche Grüße aus Jena!

@@masonharvath-gerrans832 Ik ken Duits ook vaak gewoon lezen.

I am originally from near Heerlen in Limburg, the Netherlands close to the German border. We refer to our dialect as 'plat'. Not plat dutch or german though. Just 'plat'.

@@MegaDesertfish Yeah, same as us (in the area around Bremen). It's just "Platt"

@@berndohm Sure, but in the Netherlands "plat" (noun) is used for the more rural dialects (Heerlen is old, but only started to grow into a "stad" starting in the 20 years before WW I).

@@ThW5 Sorry for not being clear enough. Same thing here, it's also used for the rural dialects, not for the language spoken in Bremen itself. I don't think anyone in the city still speaks Low German, and even the rural dialects in the surrounding countryside are slowly dying out. I once had a Dutch friend visiting and showed him around Bremen, he was amazed at the old Middle Low German inscriptions on buildings and thought it was some kind of Dutch.

It’s also interesting to note that Plattdüütsch is a "newer" term. Back in Hanse times people just called their language düdesch - usually in contrast to Latin (however, in Low German/Low Saxon, the sch was most times still pronounced as sk, like it’s still today in Westphalian Low Saxon) - or sassesch or sassesche sprake (meaning Saxon language) to distinguish it from other languages, especially like High German (oaverlendisch, oberländisch) and Dutch.

What I find weird is why they dont just call themselves saxon. That is how I refer to them most of the time.

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 the low germans?

@@Meftu Yes.

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Well, while low german is derived from old saxon and there is a state in Germany called lower saxony (wich is the origin of the language), "Saxon" today in Germany refers to people from the state of Saxony (i.e. Upper Saxony), wich is not low german.

@@Meftu Rejected! There is Saxony and Upper Saxony. And I will speak this way forever and if the saxons where to also speak this way it would eventually be accepted, because its true.

@Freibursche Svidtjod or Svitjod was used until a few hundred years ago, from ON Svíþjóð, and the "Sví" part (which is where Swede is from) ultimately goes back to Proto-Germanic (reconstructed) "swihô" (from, probably, "*swe-"), which, unexpectedly, is assumed to mean "our people".

@@patrick-bu3eq really?

@@patrick-bu3eq ooh I didn't know that. What else about them, Dutch and German are family or related?

@@patrick-bu3eq named after the Anglo-Saxons

@@patrick-bu3eq ooh. Well but the Dutch people and English people are related?

Well, it is a crude summary of the video.

I have often heard about this distinction between duits and diets, but (as a German speaker who hasn't learned much Dutch) wonder whether these were already separate words when the split of the Dutch-German language continuum occurred (around the time of the reformation, when people started reading like mad and printers in Holland decided to translate rather than just reprint), or whether people have since adopted two different regional forms of the same word because the meaning of the word split.

En as du in stää vun dat Angelsassies nu op dat leern vun Neddersassies richten schall, en du di eyn lüttel bettken rond üm de Nedderlansche spraoke herom leert… schall dat eyn moment geevm dat iej bi naoh alles verstaon könnt. Eyn moment dat du seen schall häbbm dat dat Knief en the knive, nich so anners bünt as ie denket. Dat ‘ick hävv daon’ en ‘I have done’ up mekaor lieket, keyn ‘ge’ stähet daorvör. That the old nethersaxon also uses the verb ‘to have’ a lot more often. Yes, it is ‘ick hävv west’. And not ‘ick bün west’. If you learn Plattdüütsch you will not only learn about English, but also more about Dutch. If German and English were to be cousins of the Dutch language, Nethersaxon and Dutch could be seen as twins having their beautymarks in different places.

My Grandmother was German (Hessisch) - I have always spoken German, and I have spent quite a lot of time in Germany over the years. Like you, I have often been taken for a Dutchman, which I assumed was down to my accent.

@@rodjones117 As I replied to another comment, I do have ancestors from Holland - the one in Lincolnshire. I always assumed my Yorkshire dialect helped with German, but I just had someone replying on another video comments, having said that I can think in French, but my accent is reminiscent of a character in "Ripping Yarns" episode "Eric Olthwaite", which is very funny if you have not seen it.

@@alansmithee8831 I can't really see why a Yorkshire accent would particularly help you with speaking German. To me, the hardest sound to master is the German "r", and I don't think Yorkshire helps with that. In fact, possibly, my rhotic West Country accent might help more.

@@rodjones117 It was just that I had no problem being understood. Perhaps the Germans I met had more patience? I have mostly been in Paris, when in France, with everyone always busy.

there are many people across the globe who somehow think Amsterdam is the capital of Denmark

IIRC, Hilbert treated the actual meaning change in English rather cursorily, possibly because what I think I know about it isn't actually certain. But for what it's worth, here it is: The split between German and English occurred around the time of the reformation, when the Gutenberg press had made books so affordable that even peasants read religious treatises like mad because they felt that they would end up in hell if they didn't make the right choice. The printers in Holland decided to translate the books from Germany rather than reprint them unchanged. This caused the linguistic split. At any other time in history, English speakers probably had at least as much contact to Germans as to Netherlanders, so they might well have started to refer to Dutch as Hollandish and continued to refer to German as Dutch. However, at that time there were a lot of engineers from Holland in England, reclaiming huge amounts of land from the sea. These had always been called Dutch, and it was natural to continue to refer to them as Dutch. Which is why a different word was needed for 'the other Dutch from slightly further away'. To solve this problem, some English scholar resorted to using the overly broad Latin term "Germanic", in the shorter form "German".

You are learning dutch and German at the same time?? You're either insane, really ambitious or both. Ich wünsche dir viel Glück und starke Nerven!

Friesian is the closest language to English outside the Anglo Saxon realm of all languages.

@@telebubba5527 Frisians are the unspoken 4th tribe of the Anglo-Saxons. They settled England in almost as great a number as the Jutes, but were dispersed among different kingdoms. All of those people were of the Ingving (Ingvaeonic) branch of the ancient Germanics, the so-called "North Sea Germanics".

@@Burgermeister1836 Indeed. I know all that. In fact many Saxons were basically Friesians, but for some reason, probably subjugation, were dealt with the name of their enemy.

wow, I have agreed with some things he has said, what a prick, I will stay away

Somehow it's a contraductus interminus...

@@Pat-Van-Canada from a fictional character in Austin Powers? Or is that the joke? Lol

Why does this have to be brought up at literally any mention of Dutch, it's getting kind of old.

Words to live by.

Heard that Iran means 'our land' in Farsi.

Complete agree!

But Dutch is indeed the correct term to use in this case, not Deutsch. The people refer themselves as Dutch. This also confused me for a moment when I was younger, and dated a girl in Pennsylvania who said she was Dutch. But as the video explains, this is the historic usage of the word.

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@@user-qd3rz7fb1t dank !

Love the hybrid Dutch/Afrikaans ;). Gaaf, succes ermee! Heel erg bedankt! Groeten uit Nederland//Baie dankie, groete uit Nederland!

@@TheRickyLevi Doh :) ! My Afrikaans is okai nou maar my Nederlands en Fries nodig baie meer werk ! Baie dankie !

If you apply a few sound shifts, even English will turn into Dutch. Most basic words are identical and a lot of import has been imported to Dutch as well.

@@dutchman7623 yes, I know. My direct boss came from Arheim. We often speak about the similarity and differences between those three languages.

You wrote Belastingdienst perfectly well. I believe Dutch has more similarities with English grammerwise, but more simularties with German word-wise

But that is modern nomenclature. The Netherlands ("Low Countries") were part of the German Empire until the late 1500's. Dutch is not that far away from Low German, especially the late medieval and early Renaissance versions.

Which is why the Japanese parliament has been given the name "Diet" in the English translation. There was a Prussian/German influence around 1890 when the parliament was created.

Nice to know that the leader of the people is able to open all doors. Dietrich, besides being a male name, in German also means the tool lockpick :)

Yes, of course, nearly worlds have the same root, if all the languages have a common "grandmother tongue" 2.000 years ago. Btw the infinitive of a german word is just without "zu", no "att gå" or "to go", just "gehen", but with a -en in the end.

A random thought here, could the polish beer "Tyske' have a tie to the norwegian word for german?

@@slimytoad1447 Your guess is as good as mine. I would like to correct one thing in what I wrote originally. The word for nationals of Germany (as in "Angela Merkel is a German") in my language is "tysker": "Angela Merkel er en tysker." But also, she is German (adjective): "Angela Merkel er tysk." Not that it changes anything.

Hey, in Dutch we have the word "duidelijk" which means "clear, understandable" and "duiden" which means "to elaborate, clear up". Maybe it's also connected to "Duits"?

@@slonzo8491 Yes it is.

That is really difficult. Since one could say: it was NOT organized :) It was just a gathering of mayors coming together and more or less declare something they want or do not want. It is really confusing to people who think in the ways of nation states, today.

That would be very interesting subject indeed!

@@kellymcbright5456 I think it would have been more like if they weren't interested they would drop a cannonball on your ship. Essentially yes it was just a bunch of cities independently from each other allowing this trade (collecting tax from it) and as a consequence becoming rich.

@@WhoStoleMyAlias i know. I studied it :)

@@kellymcbright5456 I mean they fought a war against Denmark and won...